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Renewed UK interest in South America in spite of Argentina’s Falklands’ policy
The UK is showing a renewed interest in South America and has been successful in establishing cooperation with individual countries in spite of Argentina’s attempts to gather multilateral support for its claim on the Falkland Islands, according to World Politics Review. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesbig players are taking position to face the future......gonna be interesting the next years, well done Argentina, step by step.
Aug 16th, 2011 - 04:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0“29 billion pounds needed to bring broadband internet access to every home in the UK by 2015, like Korea is doing http://stopthecap.com/2011/02/23/korea-will-bring-1gpbs-broadband-to-every-home-for-27-a-month-by-2013/ , but we don't have that money, said the UK government, Korea can do it, so we'll have to leave this to private companies” BBC radio nan gaidheal
Aug 16th, 2011 - 06:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0[] - 2 Fred
Aug 16th, 2011 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0in Broadband Access per capita in the World
No (1) .. South Korea ...2.466 per 10 persons
No (2).. Hong Kong ....2,335 per 10 persons
No (3) .. Netherland ....2.334 per 10 persons
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No (14) ..France ......... 1,472 per 10 persons
No (15) .. UK .............. 1,466 per 10 persons.
Xbox - We are currently rolling our fibre optic broadband in the UK as offered by BT infinity. I believe the private devote van do an much better job than public.
Aug 16th, 2011 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Korea is ahead of the world on most technology and I am always amazed at the place when I go there.
The broadband access per capita is a particularly meaningless statistic though. It's basically a measure of how long ago it was that the phone system was upgraded (along with cofactors of the shape of the country and the population density in the cities).
Aug 16th, 2011 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0South Korea are doing a great job, leading the pack, but they do have advantages. The country is roughly square shaped with a large urban population (meaning that they can reach more people with the same amount of big infrastructure).
What I do find interesting though is geo's selective listing. The full listing is a bit more interesting, for instance the US is rated as 16th, Iceland is the only skandanavian country not to be in the top ten (although as they're not in the top 31 then I think they might have been missed completely).
If it's such a big deal, then is it worth even mentioning where certain South American countries placed?
Brits do not despair. Despite all our President's efforts to collapse seafaring commercial transit between your colony and your kingdom, there's one (traitor) subcontinental brother that would allow your ships to freely berth at her ports: Chile.
Aug 16th, 2011 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 3... where is argentina on that list??????
Aug 16th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0argie- cuckooland I am afraid.Commercial Ships operating to and around the Islands still come and go from Uruguay and Brasil as and when they need to with no problems. Just that Chile is closest so gets most of the trade.
Aug 16th, 2011 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read what Brazil actually said recently- the bit about “in compliance with Int Law” - that means verbal support for your President in public - but in reality no unreasonable refusal of a vessel as it would be against Int maritme law.
@6
Aug 17th, 2011 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0there's one (traitor) subcontinental brother that would allow your ships to freely berth at her ports: Chile.
Only one?
HMS Portland’s conducted a five-day visit to Lima, Peru, including a defence industries day on behalf of UK Trade and Industry, and a visit by James Brokenshire MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary for Crime Reduction; further raising the Royal Navy’s profile in South America and helping to strengthen co-operation with Peru in the fight against cocaine trafficking and associated terrorism
@6 Argie,
Aug 17th, 2011 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you call the Chileans traitors? They don't owe you Argentines anything. ln fact you were going to invade them after your Falkland fiasco if you had won. The Chileans and the Falklanders don't trust you.
No one trusts the RGs.... they don't even trust each other........
Aug 17th, 2011 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0I strongly suggest the UK should deal bilaterally with Brasil, forget about Argentina, and build SA bi-lateral free trade agreements.
Aug 17th, 2011 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0All will have to be un-picked if a EU-Mercosur Agreement ever comes about, but, because every man and his dog is into bi-laterality, the UK should go the same way - but only with the good guys who know how to honour agreements.
our regional union bothers you so much
Aug 17th, 2011 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0when you (UK) build between yourselves an international comunnity of 30 countries no more (192 in the world) to kill to colonize to steal etc
divide and conquer (you never change for better) is the only thing you know to do, important for us is to know you well and to be united, specially to be able to help others countries od SAm when they have problems, help between ourselves
sharing a market for trade positions us better in front the world too
Geoff, Mercosur is a customs union. There can't be bilateral negotiations between the UK and a Mercosur country unless all other Mercosur members permit. And I don't see why Brazil should jeopardize its trade relations with Argentina - the third most importance trade partner and the largest source of trade surplus - to negotiate with the UK, which is economically irrelavant to Brazil.
Aug 17th, 2011 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Frank
Aug 17th, 2011 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No (1) .. South Korea ...2.466 per 10 persons
No (2).. Hong Kong ....2,335 per 10 persons
No (3) .. Netherland ....2.334 per 10 persons
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No (14) ..France ......... 1.472 per 10 persons
No (15) .. UK .............. 1.466 per 10 persons
No (16).. USA ............ 1.382 per 10 persons
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No (23) .. Chile .......... 0.410 per 10 persons
No (24) .. Poland ....... 0.352 per 10 persons
No (25) .. China ........ 0.268 per 10 persons
No (26) .. Argentina.. 0.175 per 10 persons.
So, let me get this straight,
Aug 17th, 2011 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasil wants a trade agreement with Canada, but a full Mercosur Free Trade Agreement proves impossible to negotiate because of different agendas and circumstances within the group.
So then Brasil says to Argentina/Uruguay/Paraguay “would it be all right with you if I developed a bi-lateral FTA with Canada”, and each in turn says 'Yes, go ahead, . . . we'll do the same!”
This must be how all the dozens of FTAs between SA countries and the rest of the world actually happen.
It's good to see so much altruism.
There must be some powerful reasons why the two great SA trading blocs turn their backs on the benefits of joint trading positions but allow each nation to develop FTAs etc as separate national entities. . . . but it seems like 'cutting your own throat' to me.
Or, perhaps a better phrase is 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'.
@ 16 “It's good to see so much altruism” it's not altruim, it's business, looney!
Aug 17th, 2011 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Xbox - It's gentle sarcasm, my old friend.
Aug 18th, 2011 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm trying to say that there is synergism available when you work together.
Both Argentina and Brasil will achieve significantly more in international trade by working together rather than working apart.
Mercosur could be so great - I find it frustrating that the opportunities it can afford are not being developed. The window of greatest opportunity is closing fast and it just needs China to hit with a bump for it to be lost altogether.
To develop a maximal trading economy with the rest of the world based on SA manufactured goods would avoid much of the economic and social (China) bump that comes from over-reliance on the fluctuating features of raw materials export.
@ 18 Ok, I understand. But there is something odd hidden and sleeping behind all this suddden success, something that will arise. I hope it is not Godzilla.
Aug 18th, 2011 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NAto massacre of civilians at Mejer and more
Aug 19th, 2011 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.counterpunch.org/lamb08122011.html
www.counterpunch.org/bricmont08162011.html
argentina , can and will do nothing but talk.
Aug 20th, 2011 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well they do reckon that Britain will be a powerful
Maritime nation again within ten years . mmm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-2026337/CITY-FOCUS-Pirates-high-seas-block-Britain-s-bid-rule-waves.html
you never know .
#20 For all peoples and nation in the world affected by the destructive policy of UK for centuries, this place seem interesting..
Aug 21st, 2011 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...We are a global network of citizens who have suffered injuries at the hands of the British Empire over the last five hundred years. We've banded together to ask the United Kingdom to compensate the world for all the damage they've done.”
http://www.britishreparations.org/
another load of anti british crap,
Aug 21st, 2011 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so-far -so good then,
is not anti britsh, is what people of the other side of the same story suffers, not only from britain, its all this international community that thinks they have the right to choose others destiny, only because they have militar power and wants to show the rest they dominate the world, in a hegemonic way with so many people unnecesarilly been killed.
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now they are going to put in Libya a puppet government to defend “their” interests of stealing oil while they make the ocupation and colonization of african lands.
Dont need to read the sh** is going to come for central countries, they are going to do and say the same that they did with others wars.
But there are others that think different, thanks God
english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/08/21/163404.html
blackstarnews.com/news/135/ARTICLE/7593/2011-08-21.html
www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/harlem_8103.shtml
@24 malen,
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 05:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0-“is what people of the other side of the same story suffers”
-“that thinks they have the right to choose others destiny, only because they have militar power”
Like you tried to choose our destiny, malen, in 1982.
You think you have the right to choose our destiny & you do not.
Keep your nose out of our affairs, there is nothing here for you.
your country has the militar power to bother others. you own the isles by force. you are descendants of illegal occupants of a land that as africa is not yours. The same as in 14 BOTS.
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0your country as in africa is stealing others resources.
and for if you dont notice your motherland the UK metropoli is choosing your destiny, not Argentina.
Your level of hypocrisy is so high that you want to make as appears as doing the same your country does. Fortunatelly we were not killing people during 500 years. We dont sell arms. We dont have problems with other neighbours and in other regions.
And your silly arguments keep your nose out of here ay ay ay ay ay you threaten me so muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh in this beautiful morning
“”Your country has the military power to bother others.
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You own the isles by force.
You are descendants of illegal occupants of a land that, as Africa, is not yours. . . . ”
Good day, Malen.
You make a sane argument with respect to any land that changed ownership through conquor. Occupants come under new rulers until the next conquoring comes along.
So it throughout history, though for any one individual in any age, the perspective is attenuated to their own situation - thus a Pole living in Poland might rail against Germany, Russia, then Germany again, then Russia during a single lifetime.
But the Falkland Islands are different in respect to previous occupation before the period of great colonisation - which the British recognise as the Victorian era. The Islands were unoccupied, and thus returning them to the Penguins only serves the interests of the penguins; not the British and certainly not the Argentinians.
A case could be made to depopulate the Islands totally of human beings, but these solutions rarely last for much longer than a single political administration (4, 5 years or so).
And one key issue seems to be the ownership of terrestrial, marine and submarine exploitable resources.
The other key issue is, of course, the present ownership, the present population and the wishes of the present population.
Argentina could re-conquor, depopulate the present population, and re-populate with pure-bred Argentinians; but I think this was tried once with disaserous results. It does not stop Argentina trying to do this again. The process is called war, and it tends to keep the mind of the people off domestic inflationary matters and focusses their attention on body-bags and war memorials.
Surely we humans can do better than that.
Argentina could re-conquor, depopulate the present population, and re-populate with pure-bred Argentinians; but I think this was tried once with disaserous results. It does not stop Argentina trying to do this again. The process is called war, and it tends to keep the mind of the people off domestic inflationary matters and focusses their attention on body-bags and war memorials.
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geoff: That really does not matter.The way I see it,uk will colapse by itself,by internal and external forces.....
The islands were occupied not only by penguins, an arg population and even a governor, argentine, had a daughter.
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arg doesnt want a war, negotiations.
We dont need a war to hide nothing in argentina or distrac us of nothing. We know very well argentinian problems. In that case my country is using fútbol para todos to distrac us. Your country is the one always in war.
and about occupants come under new rulers until the next conquoring comes along...............???ilegal ocupation is ilegal in f*cklands africa wherever give back whats not yours
yakady yak-yakady yak /?
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only the jealousy of the indoctrinated , stops them from excepting the inevitable,
You cant have, what you never had,
so you throw shit to the wind, and hope the smells whiff ,
But sadly [as they say] you dealt it, you smell it ??
no-one is threatening you, malen on this cold windy evening. You are the ones threatening us.
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is our land & NOT yours, no matter how much you cry.
YOUR silly country conquered Patagonia by military power & you own the country by force. The Argentines in Patagonia are the descendants of an illegal implanted population in a land not yours.
As l said before, keep your nose out of our business.
why then does she persist in this aggresion against the falkland islanders,
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0would it not, in this day and age, for the argentine goverment,
to take her case to the ICJ and end this farce, once and for all.
there is nothing wrong in having an indipendent falklands 300 miles of your coast, living in peace,
being friends with us,
why then do you persist in something, that wants nothing to do with argentina at this stage ,
would it not be better for argentina to give up its demands and live inpeace,, argentina goes her way, and the falklands goes her way .
so simple, yet so very hard to achieve ..
We fought against our colonizators and send them home!! Dont you see the difference...and we are not spaniards, we are argentinians....and third argentinians(natives) against argentinians(criollos, mestizos,mulatos etc) fought in patagonia. Arg patagonia is of both of them and their mixes, argentinians.
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really it seems the education on those isles is very low standard in reading comprehension and even some of you called indigenous kingdoms our indigenous communities showing you dont know nothing of our history and our people. Dont talk of what you dont understand.
would it not be better for argentina to give up its demands and live inpeace,, argentina goes her way, and the falklands goes her way .
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so simple, yet so very hard to achieve ..
Yes britton.It is very easy.uk go away,at 14000km and DO NTO BUG US!!!
uk is the pirate,not Argentina.We were at p[eace,only to be disturbed by some idiots,that thinks the world should be theirs......
WE ARE FEED UP of uk!!
you know nothing of our history or
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you dont know our history and our people
malen,
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 02:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0l know enough of your history to know that l want nothing to do with you or your country.
I stepped back from personal involvement in TFI argument as I know it only through the written histories, the media since 1980, and the comments on this site.
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0TFI are only a little bit of land wanting to do their own thing.
The continental Southern Cone is a vast land of territories fought over, won and defended, with present occupation, present governments, and present boundaries.
Not so long ago, BA residents went out and conquored much of southern South America - mostly they won, but some bits they lost, like TFI.
Just live with the ebb and flow of history, and get used to it.
I see nobody threatening to take back territories from within Argentina's present borders.
You are not attacked or threatened; you are at peace with the world.
Be greatful for this,
and do not bring your bellicosity to others.
I dont bring any bellicosity and my country either. Read well the posts.
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yes BA (Buenos Aires residents, argentinians residents, south americans residents) We are southamericans living in Southamerica. And its not we lost Malvinas, its your country occupyied them ilegally.
And to post 36 and? ....who cares
you lot only say what you are told to say,
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fed by your moles, and told to tell lies,
indorcinated people like you, know no difference
the truth is something you will never understand .
@38 malen,
Aug 24th, 2011 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0And we don't care about you or for you, thats why there is NOTHING to negotiate.
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