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Argentina to protest Falklands’ oil activities and invites UN C24 president to Buenos Aires
Argentina will file an official complaint against Britain for oil exploration activities in Falklands/Malvinas disputed waters before the United Nations Decolonisation Committee and have invited the C24 president to visit Argentina to hold a meeting on the issue in Buenos Aires. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThere's a rather bored looking tea lady in my office. You should make a written complaint about this terrible situation to her too. It would really brighten her day.
Aug 19th, 2011 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0But your tea lady can do nothing Idlehands. On the other hand the World Philatelic Society might. Perhaps they should take their complain there too?
Aug 19th, 2011 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://theworldphilatelicsociety.com
You have a tea lady in your office Idle? You're very lucky, all I've got is a vending machine that dispenses “alledgedly”. As in “alledgedly” tea or “alledgedly” coffee.
Aug 19th, 2011 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0I believe that the UK should actually send a representitive to one meeting, and offer to immediately cancel all none of the drilling permits that it has issued.
Or we can wait for whatever crackpottedness the C24 comes up with to be squashed by the 4th committee, same as usual.
Rufus, the UK did not issue the drilling permits, so can't cancel something it did not issue...
Aug 19th, 2011 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats why he said 'all none' lol
Aug 19th, 2011 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where litigation?
Aug 19th, 2011 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear ... the C24 finished this year's deliberations back in June. It'll be the Fourth Committee in October, but as we know, that doesn't lead anywhere.
Aug 19th, 2011 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just wind and water the :-)
What confuses me is why the Argentine Government are taking their complaint to the C24, as this is not within the remit of the C24?
Aug 19th, 2011 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina must claim a Special UN Committee for Natural Disaster
Aug 19th, 2011 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0about likely oil disaster at Falkland around ..
becouse ...
we know that Brits don't know how to make deep sea drilling..
Senora Cirugia Plastica, aka CFK, is just frothing at the mouth knowing all of that oil is there.
Aug 19th, 2011 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The C24 is discredited and well past its 'sell by' date. No longer relevant.
Aug 19th, 2011 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK will ignore it on all fronts.
Easily done..... the UN knows it is a waste of space. Still, it keeps the little people happy :-)
And you are the 'little people' :-)
You know my Grandfather told me that since oil was discovered in the world the Argentines would try to reclaim our Islands on that issue alone. Seems History is about to repeat that old mans words. It is as plain as day that the Argentines are getting more agitated every day as our deep see explorations start yeilding the fruits our forefathers predicted we would have. Argentina does not want our Islands because they believe they belong to them because Historically they no they don't. (1592 was a long time before Argentina even existed) No they only want what they knew was here over a hundred years ago. Sorry to spoil your dreams Che but we are here and now and real time drilling. Shipping is still happening inspite of the Argie Embargo so get used to it. When yous lot run out of Oil we may subject to political correctness sell you some of our new found oil . We are not barbarians so would look after your people which is a hell of a lot more respect than you are showing to us.
Aug 19th, 2011 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly the tea lady is not interested in a letter from the illustrious Mr Timmerman.
Aug 19th, 2011 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However her budgerigar would be delighted to receive such quality parchment for his cage.
Seems they fancy a seat on the Security Council !!
Aug 19th, 2011 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/08/19/security-council-seat-for-argentina/
i differentiate my comment ( #) 9
Aug 19th, 2011 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0J.Argüello should claim a Special UN Committee for Natural Disaster
immediately...about likely oil disaster of Falkland around...!
becouse
the Brits doesn't know how to make deep sea drill ,
and have covering up ability..... !
What harm can we do Geo - it's only oil, and if we spill a bit it'll just go to South America.
Aug 19th, 2011 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where's the harm in that ?
After all, Think's policy has killed all the fish, so they won't care!
:-)
@8 LegionNI
Aug 19th, 2011 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are taking their complaint to the C24 because it's packed with their buddies. Notice that the current C24 president is from Ecuador. Also notice that the Falklands Islands government has issued several invitations to C24 to visit the Islands. Too scared that bully boy Argentina will find a way to hit their own countries. Isn't that what gangsters and mobsters do?
There hasn't been a security council or general assembly resolution relating to the Falklands since the 1980s. When is somebody going to point this out to them as they don't seem to know.
Aug 19th, 2011 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I notice the Singapore government showing it unfaultering support by buying a massive amount of shares in the name of Government of Singapore Investment Corporation Pte Ltd......Shurely shome mishtake
Aug 19th, 2011 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 015 August 2011
Aug 19th, 2011 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Desire Petroleum plc
(“Desire” or the “Company”)
Exploration Update
“However, since Desire does not have access to all the data upon which Rockhopper's evaluation is based, in particular the 14/10-6 well data, Desire is unable to confirm Rockhopper's interpretation at this stage.”
I thought this two pirate companies were working together, if they are why Urinehopper is hiding information?
http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail.html?announcementId=10949279
I know you are not English Marcos, but the clue is in these three words “at this stage”, which does not rule out Desire getting their hands on the information at a later stage...
Aug 19th, 2011 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[] - 16 Red
Aug 19th, 2011 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i feel certain that “”Think “” is British + his some personifications !!
Think's insidious policy already is to kill all rival commentators here !!
sometimes..he has given some --troll messages -- i follow them !!
I will feel really cheated if there is just me . . . and a sub-editor with a hundred pseudonyms & personas!
Aug 19th, 2011 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Folks- reality is someone has an election in October! This is all political p*ss in the wond to get her some good reports in their national press. She and Timmerman know its NOT the jurisdiction of the C24 - or even then Assembly or the Security Council - but the mass public will not know that and vote for her as their heroine.
Aug 19th, 2011 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geo- actually Britain has a first class record on oil safety and is a top rate world leader i it - is Argentina!
1, The ICJ will decide,
Aug 19th, 2011 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sooner or later, perhaps argentina will just ignore the ICJ
and keep on doing things her way, as there really is no other way is there,
typicle argentina, to kick a poor country like britain whilst it is down,
taking advantage of our weak livered goverment,
and if you cant get anywhere now, what hope when we are stronger,
still, pissing in the wind-is the argentine way,
[still] we can all dream, poor argies
24 Islander1 “Britain has a first class record on oil safety”
Aug 19th, 2011 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh yes first class, like BP (aka British Petroleum) CEO Tony “Baloney” Hayward and the oil spill disaster that claimed 11 lives and spewed millions of gallons of toxic oil into the Gulf of Mexico
Argentina is complaint to C24 about oil drilling. That is like me complaining to the Post Office that my neighbour has painted his fence a horrid colour!
Aug 19th, 2011 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When is that pathetic nation going to grow a spine?
Thinking about Post Offices, I hear they double as public lavatories in Argentina.
“In coming days the Argentine Foreign Affairs ministry will again accuse the British government of violating UN resolutions” Oh dear, but don't be so sad, at least you'll have a chance to accuse the Argentine Foreign Affairs ministy, no?
Aug 20th, 2011 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps all this anti-english hysteria is because of the opium wars, what do you say? no?
I hope Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland will support London.
Does David Rockefeller know that there are human beings living in the falklands??? Does he care?
“The UK can only speculate with “the implicit support from the European Union that has included the Malvinas Islands in a list of British Overseas Territories” Oh dear, I wouldn't count on that.
Well guys, you couldn't say that I didn't lend a helping hand, I did my best, I insulted them, I lied, I accused them! but it wasn't enough. You should learn to swim (especially you Isolde, you're overweight), and I guess cold waters is not the biggest problem, but the sharks! Those waters are shark-infested!
No, no, no, this is looking bad really bad :-o
Oh dear...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/08/19/pensioners-and-disabled-to-lose-half-price-coach-travel-in-sneaky-tory-led-cutbacks-115875-23354565/ Mirror is a well of news. Things are not looking nice.
It seems that there is something going on...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/08/19/pensioners-and-disabled-to-lose-half-price-coach-travel-in-sneaky-tory-led-cutbacks-115875-23354565/
Marcos - RKH and DES are only working together on one licence and the seismic covers part of that licence, the rest covers a licence that is 100% RKH owned and operated.
Aug 20th, 2011 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hence DES do not have all the data! You could have found that out for yourself if you had the intellectual capacity!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/13/australia-beaches-oil-disaster
Aug 20th, 2011 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/13/australia-beaches-oil-disaster
Marcos, do please get all your facts in a line. BP is a multinational company not purely british. And the disaster you refer to was in US waters and with US partners and it was a US subsidiary whose components failed to work.
Aug 20th, 2011 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands Govt Oil dept is a bit more on the ball than the US was in the gulf of Mexico, and has measures in place to ensure that emergency batteries to shut blowoff valves are kept charged up.
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/northern/2009/10/26/australias-shame-the-timor-sea-oil-spill-disaster-in-pictures
Aug 20th, 2011 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wales v Argentina
Aug 20th, 2011 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The match hasn't even started and the Argentinians are crying like babies!!!
Dear me.
@Geo #32
Aug 20th, 2011 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wht exactly are you trying to prove Geo, The oil slick in the Timor sea was nothing to do with us brits - Australia is an independent nation. Also the oil rig was - “The West Atlas oil rig in the Timor Sea, operated by the Thai-owned PTTEP Australasia,” So it was a thailand company responsible for the slick not us brits or the australians, and last time i check Thailand is an independent sovereign country.
Here one that Argentina were responsible for:
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jan2008/2008-01-02-03.html
You guys can not even pump the oil off the tanker ships without spilling it.
Non fare lo stupido!
Aug 20th, 2011 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Colonial pigs ignore all talk! They are practice in art of deception and ignorance for 1000 years of English colonialism of planet earth!!!! I know I lived in Montreal Quebec, english Canadians come to cause trouble, english media take over, english people, english flag, english statues to english heros!!! go home english!!! My great grandfather was english but i spit on his grave!!!
All colonial and descendants of anglo colonial pigs must be removed from American continent and this will be the final solution to all our problems!!!! Not forgetting Chilean traitors and Uruguayans.
You are either with us or against us. Those against us need to be disappeared.
Filippo. No-one believes you're Argentinian. Give it a rest mate.
Aug 20th, 2011 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Aug 20th, 2011 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway back too the match - Argies getting thumped 17-3 and theres still another half hour to go!!!!!.
Aug 20th, 2011 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Filippo #35 - “My great grandfather was english but i spit on his grave!!!
Aug 20th, 2011 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All colonial and descendants of anglo colonial pigs must be removed from American continent and this will be the final solution to all our problems!!!!”
Would like some help packing your bags then filippo, after all since your great grandfather was English, that would make you one of the descendents that your calling for to be removed from the american continent, or is your brain so small that you forgot you yourself are one of the very people that you are calling to be removed from the american continent!!
Really the stupidty of some of you anti british posters never ceases to amaze me - talk about shooting yourself in the foot their filippo lol.
@35 oh man, you're a pr*ck. UNFORGIVABLE!!! do you know where's the best place to troll online? better than this? people on this forum are so mean and stuck-up, I'm getting boring, I can't stand them anymore!!!
Aug 20th, 2011 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My great grandfather was english but i spit on his grave!!!
Aug 20th, 2011 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA
[] - 34 Tea
Aug 20th, 2011 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in reality,the PTTEP Australasia uses British drilling technology..
BUT
the PTTEP Australiasia is a paravane company which seen as owned
by Takshin Shinavatra ( corrupt former Thai Prime Minister)in records
for the purpose of international money smuggling/laundering.........!!
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i heard from you that Australia is an independent nation ??
an independent nation which can not elect own President freely !!
Filippo (#)
Aug 20th, 2011 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a todos los argentinos adoctrinados; s
argentine , ignore all talk! They are practice in art of deception and ignorance for 1000 years I know I lived in Argentina , , they , cause trouble, argentine media take over, argie people, argie flag, white statues to , go home !! My great grandfather was an alien but I cant find his grave!!!
All argie and descendants of anglo colonial Spanish must be removed from south American continent and this will be the final solution to all our problems!!!! Not forgetting Christina traitors.
You are against us. Those against us need to be indoctrinated more, gargle gargle
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@geo #42
Aug 20th, 2011 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They maywell use British develop drilling technology but that does not make us brits responsable for their failings to drill to certains levels of stadards or their lack of safety precautions they employ, does it? No!!
Fact is they are not a British company, yet you tried to use the incident to prove british oil companyies have a poor safety record when the truth is we have one of the best safety records in the oil industry.
As for Australia, err yes they elect a new prime minister every 3-4 years on average, their choosing to keep the queen as the head of state is nothing but a symbolic one, and does not change the fact that Australia is an independent country with its own constitution - The final constitutional ties between Australia and the UK were severed with the passing of the Australia Act 1986, ending any British role in the government of the Australian States.
In fact, Australia has had closer ties with the USA than with the UK since the end of WWII.
29 Beef I know the bad economy is getting to you, calm down please, high blood pressure is unhealthy.
Aug 20th, 2011 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Talk to Keith Morris.
•Director, Oil and Oil Services equity research at Evolution Securities
Past •Head of European Oil & Gas research at BNP Paribas
•Senior Oil Analyst at Schroder Securities
•Oil Analyst at Kitcat & Aitken
Senior Explorationist - New Ventures at Lasmo see less
Education •The University of Reading
•University of Bristol
Some people did not like it very much...
http://www.sartma.com/art_8982.html
As an Ozzie I'd just like to say if the British ever need help kicking those Argie b*******s off the Falkland Islands again I'm sure we'd be more than happy to lend a hand to our friends :)
Aug 20th, 2011 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the relationship between Australia and Britain, it will always be strong, as well as sharing the same head of state, we are a commonwealth nation and share a number of defence and intelligence agreements with the UK, NZ, USA and Canada - all intelligence is shared. Our SAS operate with the UK SAS and NZ SAS and our military have a number of personal on attachment with UK forces, or at UK defence establishments.
The economy of the Falkland Islands can't be in too much peril. Apparently they are still thin about a new deep sea port - http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/deep-thought-on-a-deep-port/
Aug 21st, 2011 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0JD - no problems in our relationship that cannot be sorted on the cricket field. After all, it's just a family thing :-)
“Mr. Sawle doubted that a conclusion was imminent, With an investment like that you need to be pretty sure of a business case and you’ve got to be pretty sure that you are going to need it”
Aug 21st, 2011 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not sure Mr Dick? :-)))
Marcos - I couldn't give a rats arse about the “economy”. Economies are cyclical and things balance out. There are always opportunities to make money.
Aug 21st, 2011 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know British soverignty of the FI is getting to you but this shouldn't stop you spending more time on trying to raise your IQ so you try not the be whipping boy of Mercopress!
[]-44 Tea
Aug 21st, 2011 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0you would find some British oil disasters from this web site
http://www.oilrigdisasters.co.uk/
the British ones are {seagem.,.o-prince.,.interocean2.,.0-odyssey..}
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http://www.oilrigdisasters.co.uk/ happen/
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why an ordinary Aussie citizen elect a different country's head ??
why ordinary Aussie citizens agree the British patched flag ??
Aussie's truth is that just the autonomus region of UK !!
BUT
the rupture from UK is very easy !!
by the way , i remmembered a thing that
...following 1975 / CIA coup against Aussie Prime Minister
Gough Whitlam, his British Crown --appointed successsor
Malcolm Fraser sped to US where he met with Gerald Ford...etc..etc..
Geo... you should really try to get out and about a bit more.....
Aug 21st, 2011 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah but what about yesterdays Rugby and Argentina's destruction by a Country the size of Wales?
Aug 21st, 2011 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you Argentinians care? Are you all just a bunch of soccer loving girlies?
@Geo #50
Aug 21st, 2011 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think anyone cares about the point your trying but failing to make on UK oil industry safety - Fact is we have a much larger oil industry than Argentina, Blow outs happen no matter how safe you are, ships sink, submersibles sink end of day accidents do and will happen, no matter how high your standards of safety are. But hey the oils in the falklands not in argentina so whats it got do to with you argies? Sod all, cos theirs nothing you can do about it.
And with regards to Australia, well what business of argentina is it if they choose to keep the queen as the head of state, they like the falklanders are decendents of british ancestors and we have a unique bond with them just like we do the islanders, and as JayD said (#46) they would be more then happy to help us kick some argenine arses, and we would be the first to jump to australias side too.
@22 geo,
Aug 21st, 2011 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sr Think works for MI6, be very wary of him!
@28 xbox,
Last time l checked, l was about 1.58m tall & weighed about 52kg.
ls that overweight? & l swim very well.
@35 flippers,
You are a blithering idiot boy.
@42 geo,
So because the Thais use British Drilling Technology, you believe the British are responsible for any mistakes that the Thais make.
So by your logic if (for example) a German in Germany has an accident in a French car, the French are responsible for that accident?
No wonder you silly Argentines believe that the Falklands are yours, you have no reasoning or logic. You are doomed to fail.
Australia is a sovereign independent country, geo.
What they put on their flag is their business.
No-one has the right to interfere.
[] - 51 Frank
Aug 21st, 2011 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You imply i am a bit heavyweight ...!!
[] - 53 Tea
i am drinking my hot vanilla-green tea at the moment
combination with light /warm /windy wheather..what a pleasure !
[] - Isolde
poor MI6 !!...he has unbuttoned /light manners !
i am not from Argentina ...
i don't recommend to you French cars....
your tall is 1.58 m...but this not British measurement...!!
you must say as ..... feet ..... inches !
26 Marcos Alejandro----- You really are a Muppet BP shares are 40% British owned and 39% owned by American companys the one company who owns a whopping 28.34% of BP—more than the other 9 out of the top 10 together. is Wall Street’s JPMorgan Chase. The only ones who killed those 11 men on that rig were Americans who were working on that rig and did not comply with the safety laws.
Aug 21st, 2011 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh and by the way prick BP does no longer stand for British Petroleum it is now Beyond Petroleum and has been for the last ten years. But then an educated man got that name wrong and he was the President of the United States so what chance does an uneducated idiot like you have. None by the sound of it.
The more comments I read from you Argentina loving bozo's the more I think that I know the reason why Argentina is a country with no hope in the world.
@Geo #55
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0What no response to my last post? Instead you now prefer to talk about what tea your drinking, or is that simply a dig at my username on here?
Well to be honest i could not careless whether its an attempt to either take the mickey out of my username or simply to change the subject, as for the reference to the weather, well all i can say is that the weather here in the UK is very warm, Sunny and Dry where i live, in fact as its only just early spring in Argentina, i dare say its better here then it is there, ohh guess what.. According to the latest whether reports the highest tempeture expected in Argentina today is 50 degrees Fahrenheit and clear but mainly CHILLY - Where here where i live in the UK the temperature is expected to which 71.6 degress Fahrenheit with sun and partly cloudy throughout the day.
I geuss that makes us Brits hotter property then you cold and chilly argentines. Would you like some oil for your heaters, i hear the falklands have plenty and would be more then happy to sell you some, though watch out for the inflation rate of 25% as that will send the cost of oil for your heating sky high and unaffordable to most argentines, though you could always chop down the few trees, but oh thats just to much hard work for you lazy moaning argentinians after all with no oil you will be back to using your axes again lol.
The more people I read UK is killing the more I understand the reason why UK is a country with no hope.
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Malen #58
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right and Argentina is a prime example to the world of a country that has never killed anyone, is it? Err No, not by a long shot.
And unlike you, at least we do not go into evict people from their homes with all guns blazing like you guys do - http://en.mercopress.com/2011/07/29/one-officer-and-3-civilians-killed-during-eviction-of-a-landsite-in-north-argentina
Nor do we go around raping and killing french tourist, like you argentines do.
Nor do we have an inflation rate of 25% or a government that likes to hide the true figure to safe themselves of public embaressment.
Nor do we have a Government that tries to deflect form issue within the country by using a lies and false historical facts to wrongly claim land that has never belonged to them, simply to improve opinion polls and get more votes.
With your record, one must wonder what, if any hope, is left for you argentinians and your country. Next step for you is a one way ticket to Zimbabwe as when the shit hits the fan in argentina, even Zimbabwe would be a cheaper place for you to live.
redhoyt you must come from the falklands after all you live on a bunch of rocks poor you that is the only thing England has for now lol
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The humanitarian war is a very lucrative issue for you. you invade to sojuzgate others for money.
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I have to enumerate your country crimes I will never end.
@Malen #61
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really so what lands have we invaded in mondern times and subjugated the controle and people, i.e. Bring under domination or control, esp. by conquest or Make someone or something subordinate to - that has not been hadn't back to its own independent government? Err none as all our recent modern wars have been in defense of human rights, in defence of that nations peoples desire for freedom, to remove tyrants and tyrannical regimes and in each case have handed power back to the people of that country.
Only country wishing to Subjugate another here is Argentina and its desire to gain control over the soveriegnty of the Falklands islands, that you had once tried to take by force, and still wish to take regardless of the islanders rights to self determination, whilst at the same time saying you respect humand rights and rights of people and nations under the UN Charter. And its all because you want the oil, which we have all known was suspected of being their since what the 60's-70's
Do yourselve a favour Malen take a long hard look at your own country and its history before critising other peoples countries for the same things your very own country is guilty off. Hypocrite.
Mr camaleon sara cosî and obomber are worst than any tyrant of the world
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you have been killing in name of peace (commiting crimes) ............occupating lands to steal oil
Besides when the african union asks you for a ceasefire, you prefer to continue killing
let people of others countries, poor countries build their own union and their own solutions
you are not the ones indicated by using force and violence to solution nothing
and take care of your own problems isntead of others
The difference between the free people of the world
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the indoctrinated peoples , of dictatorships, is surely in their opinions.
Perhaps that’s why its so hard for the argies on here to except what freedom really is.
Perhaps that is why they condemn us, and happily support dictators.
64 Briton the past is simply that the past Argentina is a democratic government its an embarrassment and a real shame that the english mobs go around rioting on the streets of London there are obvious deep social problems in England rising from
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0inadequate education for England's poor and the pommy bums who go around causing problems in their own country and most of the comments here that are highly rude and envious of Argentinas progress comes from some spiteful english and falkland villagers users.
@65Tigre2000,
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are not envious of you, Tigre! Whatever gave you that idea?
65 Tigre2000 Argentina is a democratic government ??
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why then does she persist in this aggresion against the falkland islanders,
would it not, in this day and age, for the argentine goverment,
to take her case to the ICJ and end this farce, once and for all.
there is nothing wrong in having an indipendent falklands 300 miles of your coast, living in peace,
being friends with us,
why then do you persist in something, that wants nothing to do with argentina at this stage ,
would it not be better for argentina to give up its demands and live inpeace,, argentina goes her way, and the falklands goes her way .
so simple, yet so very hard to achieve .
real shame that the english mobs go around rioting on the streets of London there are obvious deep social problems in England
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0glass stones houses throw people ?
And the train delays set the argie mobs off
Train delays spark riot by Argentine commuters
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/train-delays-spark-riot-by-argentine-commuters-449140.html
and being demoted sets of the argie mob
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/train-delays-spark-riot-by-argentine-commuters-449140.html
Rulers fear “anarchy” in Argentina squatter riots
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/train-delays-spark-riot-by-argentine-commuters-449140.html
@tigre #65 - “spiteful...Envious??”
Aug 22nd, 2011 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can tell you now am not spiteful or envious in any of my comments. What i won't have is argentine hypocrites saying things about my country that are not true while trying to make their country smell like roses to everyone. When the truth is they have been doing the exact samething they accusing us off and our troops and the islanders suffered as a result of one such attempt to subjugate the islands in 1982. I will not also stand by and let people liabel us brits or british companies on a misguided believe that it make us look like the biggest polluters of the word through accidents due to lack of safety and standards, when the truth is we as a nation have one of, if not the strictest, safety laws and level of standards in the world.
As for the rioters, do some reading, its not just the poor, it was more a case of idiots using the peaceful protest of the killing of a suspected gang member, to cause violence, damage, loot and steal, and was in fact organised between rival gangs just so they could loot and steal hell, most where just kids.
And i suggest you read the links posted in #68, as it would appear the number of riots in argentina would suggest they have even worse social problems then Britain does. oh but then argentinians are well know round the world for throwing a argy bargy aren't they. Seems they are also good at telling other countries they are going downhill, when we are far from it, but not very good and realising their own country is going down the toilet, if they do not get a grip of their inflation which is likely to spiral within the next 18 months. So lets see where Argentina is in 18 - 24 months from now shall we, and don't say i didn't warn you.
Maybe the C24 should get a new list ?
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://lordton1955.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/out-with-old-in-with-the-new/
I think it would be good if the C24 added Tibet to their list.
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.mathaba.net/news/?x=628227
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0western countries stealing oil.......................
I feel sorry for the people
and patagonia perhaps .
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0off subject bruton
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Patagonia is of souhtamericans, natives, criollos etc.
Go and watch what you are doing now in Libya.
with the help of the west [libya] is now free,
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as for patagonia, interesting that you no wish to talk about,
then why you persist on the falklands,
they are not your, never have been, and never will be,
and as britain is so so poor,
shame then that we have just spent 1billion on new helicopters,
5 odd billion on 2 carriers, 2billion plus on 6 new subs,
and over 20 billion on the new nuclear subs to be built in the future,
bilion plus on new planes, for the navy and RAF,
and of course lets not forget the 3 new typs of transport planes,
that are considered the best in the world in part,
yeh, man, for a very poor poor nation we aint doing to bad are we,
please remind me and my fellow brits,
[WHAT] has argentina bought or bying, oh yes,
a 30 year old sub,, chuckle chuckle
@75 briton,
Aug 24th, 2011 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0lt's snigger, snigger. chuckle chuckle is patented by sr Think.
l must admit l borrowed snigger, snigger from Saphira.
:) what about the late great Frankie Howards' Titter'
Aug 24th, 2011 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0mmm
Aug 24th, 2011 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i will have to think on something.
Col Blink and a good old guffaw
Aug 24th, 2011 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Love to know how Think can patent an expression especially when he did not come up with it
Aug 24th, 2011 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chuckle+chuckle
love to know what the manufacture of chuckle chuckle mugs will make of thinks patent http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chuckle+chuckle
Chuckle Chuckle ;-)
T, you are pushing for a law suit for Infringement , Mr Think is the original user of the Chuckle, Chuckle thing ! Don't rock the boat ! :-))
Aug 24th, 2011 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://youtu.be/FfBwsG8ubFw
www.iol.co.za/dailynews/news/concerned-africans-criticise-nato-1.1124365
Aug 25th, 2011 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol Malen what aload on nonsense, am guessing somewhere on your family tree there is a branch that leads directly to those very africans who wrote the letter that the article you linked to was about.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or was it just you in disguise lol ;-)
What a load of racism in your comments wouldnt expect less from you............
Aug 25th, 2011 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I dont need to have a branch that leads directly to them to understand and realize that its an atrocity to human beings what is happenning in Africa, and that NATO is very questioned nowadays
Africa for africans, the usurpators go away and stop stealing
MALEN why do you stupid fools always shoot yourselves in the foot twice over,
Aug 25th, 2011 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0africa for africans, why then do not they all go back their,
[cecause they are quiet happy to live elswhere,
if your comments are true, then this makes you racist not teaboy,
why then does not argentinians then leave argentina to those who originate from their, insted of you immigrants,,
why then is argentina trying to steal what is not hers,
why then do you argie bloggers tell lies, or what you are told to say,
[next]
well said that man... the white man went to ( most of ) Africa long before the white man went to the Rio de la Plata and Patagonia.... so why don't Malen , Lubra Lips , Twitman and all their chums Foxtrot Oscar double pronto back to Europe?
Aug 25th, 2011 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Frank doesnt know about our history poor boyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Aug 25th, 2011 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But in 1810 when we got independance, we sent back all SPANIARDS USURPATORS to EUROPE and others we killed them here in wars of independance (they didnt want to go, they were stealing well our resources).
We the natives, criollos, mestizos, argentines, southamericans (not spaniards) already sent them home. Yes not spaniards in Argentina any more, all in Europe since 1800s.
Dont talk of what you dont know.
Malen most argentines are of spanish ancestry hence why you speak spanish, so their is no denying that the majority of you are from spanish origins. For you to say different would ludicrous. Though given your lack of complete historical knowledge of what land is argentine and what never was argentine i am hardly surpised you forget your of spanish origins.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for me being rascist, well thats just nonsense, as one i called them africans ,which they are africans. And 2 it is perfectly possible that your great great great grandmother was married to an african or perhaps your sister or aunt or cousin is for all you know, but since you don't know that your of spanish origins, then its highly unlikely you know much about your family tree anyway. Hell you probably think your family tree is out growing in the garden lol.
@Briton - thanks for backing us up.
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy again and again and againnnnnnnn the same always the same..........................Obviously we were colonized by Spain, many mixed with spaniards, but we arent spaniards we are mixed with our own identity and we speak spanish but drink mate that spaniard dint because indigenous did here. So we are not spaniards. Cant you understand the difference?? If you are silly its not my problem.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our original population it is said came from Alaska or Sudeste Asiático.
In a very very long time ago may all have began in Afrika.
I know perfectly my family tree.
Let africans alone.
The Spanish are part African.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Muslims still claim modern day Spain as their territory which they will reclaim one day. Gibraltar will naturally remain British.
The Spanish are part African.... because of the muslim invasion?
Aug 25th, 2011 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The pinnacle of Spanish culture was under Moorish rule.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Moors came from Africa, thus Spanish culture is the spread of African culture. . . . or so goes the argument.
Spanish conquored South America; Moorish culture and bloodlines erradicated South American cultures and mixed the bloodlines with the Moorish . . . . .or so goes the argument.
The subsequent great mixing of European genes swamped out the South American genes, and 97% of Argentina is non-indigenous but legally new-Argentinian . . . . or so goes the argument.
So, Malen, you yourself have the African in you.
Be proud of it - these hard, intelligent people were the best people around at the time.
geoff you like to turn all your way
Aug 25th, 2011 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am argentinian and like all argentinians 56 % of indigenous descendance
Get facts, our culture inclusive has indigenous ancestry in many things like language (words we use) costumbres meals etc etc etc etc
Let the africans alone.
“I am argentinian and like all argentinians 56 % of indigenous descendance”
Aug 25th, 2011 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malen, you misunderstood the statistic. It does not mean that each Argentine is 56% indigenous. Not all Argentines have indigenous ancestry. 56% of Argentines have indigenous ancestry, 44% do not.
Actually, that 56% figure comes from a genetic study of 320 individuals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Argentina#Genetic_Studies
I don't know how well it reflects the population as a whole.
@92 Geoff, you are absolutely right ! Do you know when did I find that out? when I went to the dentist .... Do you want to know the story? :-)
Aug 25th, 2011 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK, Art, . . . . tell me a story
Aug 25th, 2011 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Africa the pinnacle of civilisation,
Aug 25th, 2011 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We cant leave Africa alone,
For if the scientists are correct, we all decent from the trees, do we not,
And thus back to the fishes, [if you believe archaeologist,
Its just that Argentina //via/ /spain//are just that little bit closer, lol.
[teaboy] [Anytime]
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But 50million year later, before the birth of malen,,,,,
We have the British Falklands, decent from British stock I believe ,lol.
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@96 Here it goes .... I'm a 2nd generation spanish , both my grandparents came from Spain (from my father side ,North of Spain, blonde, green eyes, called “Godos” descendents from the Goths? and from my mother side, from the South, black hair and huge black eyes ... Anyways, I go for my dental check up and my dentist tells me the following, your gums are black and she said, either you are African or Middle Eastern descend .... without any DNA test, I was able to confirm the moorish in me. Funny story.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0at least you are proud of your past,
Aug 25th, 2011 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0malen i belive does not know who he is,
but the chances are , if he was born in argentina, then he is argentinian by birth, desent from european stock with a tinkering of moorish [perhaps]
Well Dab your sources (wikipedia) are really really bad check well
Aug 25th, 2011 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 012.000 persons in 11 provinces al azar
http://edant.clarin.com/diario/2005/01/16/sociedad/s-03415.htm
And indigenous are part of our everyday culture life habitos costumbres leyandas historia música carnavalitos clothes paintings joyería in silver tejidos cuero cooking our regional products like algarroba chia etc etc and it is also said (César Magrassi) that natives played some kind of similar football game (with different rules) and many other sports and games that were original from the region. It was and it is a great culture, I like so much.
Actually, no Malen. Wikipedia is correct about the number of samples tested, though it doesn't make it clear. They tested a random 320 out of 12,000 samples, not all the 12,000:
Aug 25th, 2011 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://coleccion.educ.ar/coleccion/CD9/contenidos/sobre/pon3/index.html
Empleando estos criterios el laboratorio del Servicio de Huellas Digitales Genéticas de la Facultad de Farmacia y Bioquímica de la Universidad de Buenos Aires seleccionó al azar de un total de más de 12.000 muestras biológicas unas 320, de individuos varones no relacionados de nueve provincias argentinas agrupados en tres regiones: Nor NorEste (Salta, Formosa, Misiones, Corrientes, Chaco, Santa Fe y Entre Ríos) número de individuos (N) =102, Sur SurOeste (Chubut y Río Negro) N=100, y Centro (Buenos Aires, Santa Fe y Mendoza) N=120.
• The government today announced that it is changing its emblem from our Argentinian flag to a CONDOM because it more accurately reflects the government's political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed. from a friend of Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner
Aug 25th, 2011 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0• [a pinch of salt perhaps ]
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.... it must be representative and indigenous are part of our population genes and life with no doubt
Aug 25th, 2011 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.presstv.com/detail/195681.html
And Geoff is right wars are used for distraction......”Libya risks distraction from domestic(UK) political issue: the economy“ search in ”The Telegraph“ article ”David Camaron should enjoy his Libyan victory while he can”
wars are used for distraction//just like argentina did over the falklands,
Aug 25th, 2011 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[],David Camaron should enjoy his Libyan victory while he can []
just like argentina did over the falklands [while it lasted]
you cant win can you.
you just cant kill of a great idea,
and isnt that idea great [britain] ??
-the whole world is mixture of races, therin lies our strength.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0my cousin, who is of British & lrish descent, married a lady from the Philippines who is a blend of lrish, Filipino, Spanish & Chinese.
They have 4 children. The two boys have red hair & green eyes.
One girl looks like a Filipina & the other girl is a blue-eyed blonde(& looks like my daughters).
Genetics are a funny thing.
@Malen, what is it that you do not understand here, your denying you have african origins just becuase your from argentina. Sorry but it does not work like that.
Aug 26th, 2011 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0The majority of the population of native argentinian and other south american tribes and civilisations were wiped out by the spanish. Yes those that lived did end up breeding with your spanish ancestors, but that means as your spanish ancesters own ancesters were from africa that you yourselve have african ancesters as you share the same ancestry and your spanish great great grand mother/father has. So unless you are one of the few remaining members of the native gene pool which i doubt you are since most live in poor areas where they probably do not have the internet or even computers, then yes you have spanish and african ancestral genes in your DNA.
Oh and by the way the even the natives are of african origins after all modern man originates from africa, so ever man and woman regardless of race or skin colour has ancesters that originated from africa, and back then as their were so few humans, your talking tens to just a few hundred thousand, then the its perfectly possible for you and me tol have originated from the same African man/woman from 125,000 and 60,000 years ago
Heres some info as evidence of where you came from malen - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_single-origin_hypothesis
On the left of that wiki page is also a world map showing the course of migration about half way down, ohh look they even made it to argentina 125,000 years ago, so even the natives are of african origins.
or if this does not convince him
Aug 26th, 2011 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps he came with that UFO in 1947 lol.
Who told you Teaboy I said sth against Afrika?
Aug 26th, 2011 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read comment 89 again.......................
We descend from spanish and indigenous and its mixes (6.000.000 of mixed people in many ways were in 1800 and only thousands of spaniards----thats why we made the revolution nice worddddddddd)
AND READ WELL WITH ATTENTION WHAT FOLLOWS OK:
POST 89 ****>>>>>In a very very long time ago may all (we) have begun in Afrika>>>>>**** Puede que todos (nosotros) hayamos comenzado en África............
OK .... I DEFEND AFRICA MORE NOW LET AFRICA RESOLVE ITS CONFLICTS ALONE
meanwhile, back on [q]
Aug 26th, 2011 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina to protest Falklands’ oil activities and invites UN C24 ,,
leave africa behind, and get back to the falklands,
leave the C24 behind, and get off to the ICJ,
see you there, then ??
pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=111013
Aug 26th, 2011 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ICJ?, Now?
Aug 27th, 2011 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@malen #108 - ”We descend from spanish and indigenous and its mixes (6.000.000 of mixed people in many ways were in 1800 and only thousands of spaniards----thats why we made the revolution nice worddddddddd)”
Aug 27th, 2011 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you get it all that is irelevent, you still from afican ancestral origins whether your native spanish, or buck rogers.
And yes i read very well thanks, its you that needs to read after all you called me a racist when i did not say anything racist at all.
l thinnnnnnnnnnnnk you'vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve losssssssssst it, malennnnnnnnnnnn
Aug 27th, 2011 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reading the complete comments to date it appears as usual the Argentine comments always seem to eventually get everyone away from the actual article subject. I wonder if the reason is that they are really trying to state their ongoing claim to our country or more likely they are so lonely with few people to communicate with they prefer to talk with us through these blogs. Either way what they do write about is stale old rubbish. Why then can't we all comment on facts as they are . This subject was about the oil activities which will continue regardless of any comment anyone makes here so trying to point score is a total waste of time. Get Real Argentina we are a Country just like you are and we intend to do in our Country as we wish just as I hope you also do in yours not dictated to by people who are bullies
Aug 27th, 2011 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Afrika is the similar imperialist repetitive situation of Malvinas. The invasion of a country in problems, usurpation of others lands, colonization and stealing of others resources in 21st century in name of pacification or any other excuse you want to make us believe.
Aug 27th, 2011 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great powers countries peoples are stupidized so as to allow their governants destroy, steal and comit the atrocities they like in name of a democracy and freedom they themselves dont have.
@113 Spot on Isolde....
Aug 27th, 2011 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@115
Aug 28th, 2011 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a load of crap your sprout malen, name one country in africa that is a colony? I doubt you will find a single one. Name one country in africa whos natural resouces are being stolen by other countries? you will find none as it is multinational companies that, in agreements with the countries governments are mining or drilling for resources where the country itself benefits from.
As for “Great powers countries peoples are stupidized so as to allow their governants destroy, steal and comit the atrocities they like in name of a democracy and freedom they themselves dont have.”
Sounds very much similar to what argentina are trying to do right now, all while sprouting peace. Ohh i geuss that makes you the one whos been stupidized, but then as you clearly could not comprehend how you could have african ancesters, then am not surprised.
I hate repeating links and answers.
Aug 28th, 2011 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you dont read the others side people opinnion of Libya or of Afghanistan or of Irak or of whatever alternative real independant news agency its up to you. I read both and take my own conclussions I have already expressed.
72, 82, 103, 110 etc. etc.
Malen - “I read both and take my own conclussions I have already expressed.
Aug 28th, 2011 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 072, 82, 103, 110 etc. etc.”
Clearly you have not read bth sides, if you had you would know we acted on libya to protect the libyan civilians from being slaugthered by gadaffi and that in afganistan, we went their to protect the world from al qaeda, the effect of which has led to less terrorist attacks and serverly reduced their ability to pose a threat. Yes the main enemy there now is the former regime, but you goto afganistan and ask the population what life they prefered i.e. life under taliban rule or life under democratic rule, and you will find that everyone responds with life under democratic rule and are greatly appreciative of the western forces for disposing of the taliban and the civilians in a iraq will tell you the same in regards to us disposing of saddam hussian and bringing them democracy, infact it is probably seeing democarcy in process in iraq that resulted in civilians in other nations in the middleeast rising up to dispose their dictators. I think the fact they are rising up goes to show what we did was right and the people themselves what freedom and democracy.
You though seem to think it is all about oil, well theres no oil in afganistan is there. but unlike iraq and libya, you do not mention afganistan as much. You think it is us trying to subjugate people wherever we are fighting, when we are not. Whatever happens when all wars are finished it is evidently clear those nations will be free and independent and stable, and as such the world itself will be a lot safer. Would you still have the same view of nations that sponser al qaeda and similar terrorist organisations, if they bombed your country, no you wouldn't you would be damanding justice no matter what the cost, like you have done in the past when Iran for example. Only reason you can not goto war is you do not have the military means to do so, if you had then am sure you would have declared war on Iran.
Strange is it not how the Argentines continue to challange not only the existance or rights of Falkland Islanders but that they also accuse others of acts in many other countries YET never do they admit to the terriblr way in which they colonised the land they now call Argentina. Countless thousands of people over the years have died at the hands of ruthless Argentine dictators and in all honesty does not look like it is about to stop any time soon. Yet these same people have the nerve to say that WE the Falkland Island people were implanted by Britain when the fact is our ancestors the pioneers of this great little Country came not just from Britain but from many parts of the world, so how can any Argentine claim that we are an implanted species wheras the opposite can be said for those Argentine people who most deffinatly were implanted from Spain the rest who live there did exactly as our ancestors did they saw an oppertunity to adventure yet the Argentines make no mention of this fact because it is a hard pill to swallow to acept that many of their fellow contry men and women settled there from that unregonised place called the BRITISH EMPIRE . Millions of these decendants live in Argentina yet not once have I read any Argentina challange that these people were implanted so why do they believe that we are.
Aug 28th, 2011 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It makes me so proud to be British living in MY Country with the rights afforded to me. Pity the vast Majority of Argentines vant claim the same.
http://theblotch.com/wordpress/?p=1223 or search in google
Aug 28th, 2011 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/08/483791.html
or search in google “Libya rethinking african countries UN membership” The rising continent wordpress.com
And to you britishproudkelper
If we were implanted we would still be an old colony of Spain giving reverence to their king. And thanks God we mixed so much we could build our own identity different to spaniards and fight for our own rights and aspirations.
malen
Aug 28th, 2011 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i think you and other bloggers are on totaly different planets,
might i suggest that either
1, you return to earth,
2, change the subject
or [3] immigrate to somalia, thus you may well learn somthing
just a thought .
Always predictable that Argentinians would take the side of their forefathers - the black African mercenaries, killing and oppressing the freedom loving people of Lybia and North Africa.
Aug 28th, 2011 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0falling out of trees
Aug 28th, 2011 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and claiming someone pushed them lol.
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