MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands’ hydrocarbons policy “is primarily a matter for the Islands”
The hydrocarbons policy within Falkland Islands waters is primarily a matter for the Falklands government and the UK is in no negotiations with Argentina over the future exploitation of any oil deposits found in the Islands waters, said Lord Howell of Guildford, Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office during question time in the House earlier this month. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAnother nail in the coffin of Argentine pretensions .... chuckle, chuckle :-)
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0pick the bones out of that :-)
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Totally! But one needs to explain before the rants from marcos and others start that The UK is required to give ultimate approval for hydrocarbon operations just like it is for fisheries - very simply because UK is the ulimate authority and is recognized as such by the UN and is formally required by the UN to excercise due control over good governance standards,democracy, and environmental safety - and that is where it ends - FIG operates to good standards of legal and environmental practice - and thus FIG makes the decisions - and collects the revenue if any - full stop.
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0The policy of the Islands have nothing at all to do with the peasants of Argentina and as such they should keep their nosy beaks out of everything to do with the Falklands. They must be thick as two short planks of wood to keep going on about something that has nothing at all to do with them and that includes that silly botox idiot they have just elected. The peasants must be thick anyway to elect her.
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chortle, chortle, snigger, snigger(not copyrighted, anyone can laugh).
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Much laughter, much laughter, but is negotiating ..... It's just a matter of time, only to and to keep operating and eventually will surface, it's just a matter of time.
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Raul, noboday can negotiate when one side has already pretdeermined the only acceptable outcome - Arg has many many times made it clear that the only acceptable result of any negotiations would be Arg Sovereignty regardless of the islands population,s wishes, and you have even enshrined into your constitution! So unless your side changes that there can and never will be any negotitions - period.
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0cheer up my lad
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0come join the band
why sing a mournful tune?
come south my lad,
to the bark of the guns,
and the valleys of the moon!
Correct translation:
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“we remain keen to foster a constructive relationship with Argentina…..”
Translation: We do not have access to the fastest growing market on earth, LatAm , and in that sense Argentina and Brazil are our key players and both have blocked us like the rest of the continent...
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/08/15/renewed-uk-interest-in-south-america-in-spite-of-argentina-s-falklands-policy
“what communications the UK government has received in the past year from foreign countries concerning the future of the Falkland Islands, Lord Howell of Guildford said that with the exception of Argentina, there had been no other communications…”,
Translation: UK is completely isolated from the continent and the nations as the squatters implanted in argentinean´s islands (Malvinas) 180 years ago. And everyday is worse....
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/08/15/renewed-uk-interest-in-south-america-in-spite-of-argentina-s-falklands-policy
“UK has a long-standing position, which “we have made consistently clear-including to Argentina-that the UK has no doubt about its sovereignty over the Falkland Islands…” And again in the same article .. “this government has continued to make it clear that the UK has no doubt about its sovereignty over the Falkland Islands…”
Translation: Why repeat twice ? surley, UK have BIG doubts about Malvinas´s sovereignty ….let´s see how long we can keep this madness and appear strong in our position until the rest of the world get tired of our pirate behavior and give us a BIG lesson.
“The UN Special Committee on Decolonisation (C24) discusses the Falkland Islands annually..”
Translation: C-24 UN body , ask EXPLICIT to sit down to negotiate in good will with Argentina and we´ll NOT obbey them or anybody. we´re in Security Council.
“Licences are granted by the FIG, subject to the consent of the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs..”
Translation: FIG independient ? LOL yes milord
Can one of you Argentines tell me what Senora Cirugia Plastica would do with all of that oil money if the Falklands were under Argentine control? Let me guess, she would introduce copious amounts of good old Argentine corruption? Am I close?
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol, So_Far_off_it is quite a joker, gotta love his way of thinking,
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Translation: FIG independient ? LOL yes milord : Can you not look ahead?? oil money, paid for protection, independent country, commonwealth, no more embargoes from S.A.
Are you really that stupid, you can not see further than plastic faces nose??
negotiate what,
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0their is nothing to talk about,
the islands are british are they not,
they wish to remain british, do they not,
argentina are,, 300 miles away are they not,
they have nothing to do with the falklands,
they do not own them-and never have,
so nothing to talk about,
[unless] you are talking about the oil ??
you know, that black stuff, that you lot deny , your not interested in,
if it is, tough,, its not yours and you will never get any of it,
and if its about the oil, they you are still deluding yourselves then .
According to Hansard this was a written exchange betwee Lord Empey and Lord Howell, yet I found one spanish language newspaper that suggested it was a verbal exchange and they had other people joing in !
Aug 23rd, 2011 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Must be a slow news week. Well aprt from the oil news of course, which cannot be going down well !
Excuse the pun :-)
@6 Raul,
Aug 24th, 2011 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Time is something that you don't have, bucko. Ask our forgiveness, remove that stupid clause about OUR home from your constitution, drop your ridiculous claims & apologise, THEN we MIGHT talk to you.
Not about sovereignty of course.
@9 so_far,
Whats all this got to do with you, bradko?
Go back to Croatia & mind your own business.
@So_Far #9 “Translation: Why repeat twice ? surley, UK have BIG doubts about Malvinas´s sovereignty ….let´s see how long we can keep this madness and appear strong in our position until the rest of the world get tired of our pirate behavior and give us a BIG lesson.”
Aug 24th, 2011 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's a standard templated response to your countries repeated claims, so why does you country repeat its claims to use when it knows dam well we have no doubt about the UKs Sovereignty of the islands - So its simply a polite response to your nonsense claims, and the same response is given each time you repeat your claim.
“Translation: C-24 UN body , ask EXPLICIT to sit down to negotiate in good will with Argentina and we´ll NOT obbey them or anybody. we´re in Security Council.”
The C24 demands are not legally binding, we have made our stand on soveriengty and the rights of the islands right to self determination clear, the C24 chose to ignore this, therefore we chose to honour the UN Charter (a legal obligation) and not that of the C24 request (not a legal obligation). In other words the C24 has no power, as it chosing to ignore the islanders right to self determination makes the C24 a defunct committe. As it is clearly not functioning inline with the charter or in line with what it was set up to do i.e. respect the peoples right to self determination and support those that want independence. Not force an overseas territory to be part of another nation that they do not wish to be part off.
As for ”Translation: UK is completely isolated from the continent and the nations as the squatters implanted in argentinean´s islands (Malvinas) 180 years ago. And everyday is worse....”
Thats our problem not argentinas after all you did not exist back then, plus get it right, we were there and claimed soveriengty of them in the 1770's - so thats 240 years that we have had a valid sovereignty of the islands. Argentina did not even exist as an idea let alone a country back then.
Yes it is entirely upto the malvinas government to decide lol - until they need the british to help pay for a new port and then bring down the royal navy and more troops to protect it.
Aug 24th, 2011 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seen all this before in 1984 when the british said it was entirely up to the islanders to decide how to run their new fishing ... “INDUSTRY”... then the british imposed a licensed fishing zone around the islands and put the royal navy into it to protect it...while the islanders sat back and screwed the fishing companies for licence fees then refused to think about creating an industry in the islands to process, pack and export fish --- which would have provided a secure long-term income for the islands. They wouldnt have needed to look for oil....but we have seen all this before havent we???
You bennies have a great saying... “only too much is enough and we want it for nothing”... lol
The “US and UK Administration recognise...” What arrogance. Whatever these two countries “recognise” does not necessarily reflect what the situation actually is - and what most of the countries in the world say it is. In fact, the US has made efforts to mediate the dispute and has called for negotiations several times. The fact that this “lord” has to hide behind the US's skirts to sustain his belief speaks volumes about their so-called “sovereignty rights”.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@#16 and #17
Aug 25th, 2011 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0You do realise that jealousy gets you no where, don't you.
oh and for the record south american countries do not amount to MOST countries in the word. there is roughtly 190 countries in the world and geuss what, most of them support the UK not argentina lol
“oh and for the record south american countries do not amount to MOST countries in the word. there is roughtly 190 countries in the world and geuss what, most of them support the UK not argentina lol”
Aug 25th, 2011 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0112 countries in the Un general assembly now support argentina's request to have the matter of the malvinas discussed in the Un main forum.
I somehow doubt spain will support the british lol
Fantasy2011 - where is your evidence that 112 countries now wish to discuss the islands in the UNGA?
Aug 25th, 2011 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Fourth Committee which is made up of the majority of the GA and they consider the issue every year ... and have dismissed it every year since 1989.
Prove you words please.
In any case the British position is unlikely to change -
http://lordton1955.wordpress.com/2011/08/25/a-british-position/
“I somehow doubt spain will support the british lol”
Aug 25th, 2011 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0They why did Spain sign the Rome and Lisbon Treaties? According to those treaties the Falklands are British territory...
Oh and I think you'll find lots of countries support the call to negotiations with a an aim to resolve the dispute Argentina has with the UK. But I doubt you could count the number of countries on one hand who have openly and in a formal way stated that the Falklands are Argentine territory. Anyway, I fail to see how the UK can “negotiate” with Argentina, when Argentina has already determined the outcome of those “negotiations” and enshrined it in her constitution.
There is nothing to “negotiate”.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Rome and Lisbon treaties ratified the European Constitution, in which was incorporated a defence policy and legislation governing human rights. It was entirely coincidental that the Falklands - as a dependency of Britain - was included....in reality though, it wont as Britain is now ruled from Brussels and they will not be willing to support Britain in any confrontation with Argentina as it would mean involving every signatory to the Rome and Lisbon treaties.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0It would force a referendum and the outcome.....is a foregone conclusion.
silly or what.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0the main and olny difference bwteen argentina and the british is this,
britain CAN and WILL go it alone, if we have to,
argentina on the other hand CANNOT on BOTH accounts,
Fantasy, whether it was co-incidental or not, it's a fact that the Falklands are considered British territory by 27 European Countries and that includes Spain. If you think Brussels rules the UK and that the UK could not take unilateral action then you obviously don't really understand how the EU works in practice. I think you'll find the member countries who pay the bills, like the UK, Germany and France are the ones who call the shots. Spain does not even become a net contributor until 2013 so for the next two years or so may say one thing but you can bet they'll do exactly what they're told behind closed doors... As for your referendum fantasy, that's all it is. A fantasy.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Investor comment:
Aug 25th, 2011 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Clearly there are alot of people who are becoming impatient, having doubts about the FI new oil province and the wider economic circumstances that seem to be drowning us for the forseeable future”
Oooopppsss 213.38 -8.75 (-3.96%)
hey Razor 10 you are deluded there have been several Britt Ministers who have been caught on corruption allegations you are too nieve I could only hope England's social basket case recovers since there the joke of the European Union.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0J.A.Roberts, here are the words of your own government spokesman, Roger Edwards:
Aug 25th, 2011 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MLA Roger Edwards attended the Forum for Overseas Countries and Territories (OCTs) of the European Union in Brussels, from 23-26 March where he acted in representation of the Falklands.
Edwards admitted that support from other countries (OCTs) attending the forum for the Falklands’ ongoing problems with Argentina “has not been realized”.
“The other countries were not content with the proposal that we put forward and so we wrote another one asking for a statement of support for the Falkland Islands,” he said. “Out of the 21 territories, I think we got seven votes in support.”
- says everything doesnt it?
#28 is clear like the water.....
Aug 25th, 2011 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0anyway, I guess Captain Jack Sparrow as well the Black Pearl´s crew could support Mr Roger Edwards.
:)
well in hindsight
Aug 25th, 2011 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the only real time you need to worry about support,
is when the shxt hits the fan,
in this case, even if 198 countries went against the british, they can and will go it alone,
what say argentina, [the new promised land of peace]
It's very easy to selectively copy and paste Fantasy.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's a bit you missed: “During the forum the Spanish Government issued a press release stating that at the coming Latam/EU leaders’ summit, the Spanish Government would not be supporting Argentina’s sovereignty claim...”
Not to mention Roger Edwards explanation for the lack of support amongst the other OTCs :“It’s very difficult for some of them. Those that sit off the coast of Venezuela, for instance, because they have their own problems and difficulties and obviously don’t want to rock the boat”.
At least the FI Government is realistic unlike the Argentine Government and many of the Argentine people
Besides most countries have no interest, and probably think, it will never happen
Aug 25th, 2011 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And if it does ever happen, what’s left of Argentina, [in the humiliation sense ]
Wont be in any condition to have a go at anyone,
YOU ARE PIRATES, GO HOME!!!!! WE DO NOT LIKE YOU!!!!!!
Aug 27th, 2011 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we//you//them//those//these//them//
Aug 27th, 2011 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fish//cod//roe// skate//rock//flipper//
loony bin//nut house//asylum//flipper
thats what indocrination does to you //??
27 tiger - “several Britt Ministers who have been caught on corruption allegations”
Aug 27th, 2011 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Name them numbnutts :) I bet you can't.......
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