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HMS Edinburgh visits South Georgia to test land and sea forces
HMS Edinburgh visited this month South Georgia as part of her six-month South Atlantic and Falkland Islands duties which included training soldiers in a cold weather environment and give sailors the chance under such challenging conditions. Read full article
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Aug 25th, 2011 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0always ready-
and argentina
aways learning to see how its done
Looking at the old chart on the bulkhead in my office... that lovely chain of islands running down the spine of the South Atlantic... all the way from Ascension to the Antarctic Peninsula...... all British... a regular little British pond.... and to the east... all the way from the Rio Cunene round the Cape to the Somali border... every coastal state a member of the Commonwealth of Nations.... upon which the sun never sets... gives one a sort of fuzzy happy feeling doesn't it...
Aug 25th, 2011 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You bunch of sad arse war mongers get a life too bad Frank your country England failed twice miserably in it's attempts to conquer Argentina, the Falklands is a tiny rock Island nothing compared to Argentina. keep your sheep n penguins cheerio chap.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“The rusty junk of the Sea”
Aug 25th, 2011 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hellooo, Turkey, any space left?
http://hughbcbone.wordpress.com/tag/hms-edinburgh/
3 So what's your problem African Queen. Think we can guess what sails your boat.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 04 Errr get it right - is it a rusty joke junk or a shiny serious threat?
The Falklands are British get used to it and die content.
Tigre - sheep, penguins and shed load of oil, not an Argie in sight. Sounds like a lovely place.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Marcos, looks like Gadaffi has fallen, looks like I was right and you were wrong, again :-)
Hey Beef, you made it sound like it would take a few days not several months, no wonder UK and France went to cry for help to the Americans.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations to the Lybian people getting rid of that old dictator friend of the British.
“Tony Blair our very special adviser by dictator Gaddafi's son”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1284132/Tony-Blair-special-adviser-dictator-Gaddafis-son.html#ixzz1W4Qy6Qqk
wrong again, you all know the true facts, Gaddafi's deservees what he gets,
Aug 25th, 2011 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the people , with the help of the west [NATO]
are now free, they just have to clear up the mess,
as for the turkish scrap yard,, how sad, the ship was scrapped full stop,
but hey i fully understand argentina wishes to keep her old stuff,
last but not least.
ENGLAND the land of hope and glory, yep glory,
now if my history is correct, England did not try to invade argentina,
from 1700/1707 [fully] it was great britain, and still under the nutter george, but again hey, give us a break, did we not return the favour in 1982, give us some credit, old boy lol.
Supprised he doesn't get bored of the same old links. Ships get rusty when they're used.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An Argentinian wouldn't know this given that the last time there ships left port was before the majority of them were born.
1-2-5-6-8-9 : BUTTER FINGERS
Aug 25th, 2011 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#3.... Oi dork boy.....I'm not english .. haven't you been paying attention......?
Aug 25th, 2011 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 Frank (#)---- Oh it does just that a real good day feeling. I see Marcos Alejandro is once more crying into his milk, oh Marcos old son who cares what Tony Blair does now or when he was in office he is old news, a has been.
Aug 25th, 2011 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 Tigre2000--- What plonker you are we invaded a colony of Spain in 1806- 1807 when we were at war with France and Spain that was defended by the Spanish, well you didn't think an Argentinian could defend anything did you? If you did you are a bigger plonker than I thought you were, But talking about invasions, we had to sail 8,000 miles in 1982 to kick out a few thousand squatters who thought that it would be nice and easy to pillage what was and is British territory, AND it was so easy to kick your arses of the Islands , but then anything is when it comes down to having to beat Argentina. Its also nice to know that when the all that oil that will soon be appearing will all belong to the Falkland people and that it will make those small small islands rich beyond anything that large Argentina can produce, ah well never mind remain poor and with inflation that is out of control its what you all deserve, I can think of no other people that deserve it more.
Which means that the next generation,
Aug 25th, 2011 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably don’t know where the base is,
Or what to do, that’s why you see all the sailors standing on the beach watching fishermen,
[is that a real boat errrrr]
oh dear :( Mercopress is merciless. how is Think doing after this? any news on him? can he still speak???
Aug 25th, 2011 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe he is in the archives , finding out more facts and fiction,
Aug 25th, 2011 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To enlighten us with, upon his return,
Or or or
Merco press has copy righted him lol.
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...and the pirates in action again.
Aug 26th, 2011 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 16 when the levels of paranoia are so high, that means you need a holiday Troneas :)
Aug 26th, 2011 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I seem to recall that Buenos Aires, calling itself the United Provinces of the River Plate, sent a pirate, one David Jewett, to the Falklands in 1820. He had a ship. I understand it was called the Heroina, presumably after the drugs he hoped to run later on. I gather the United Provinces, who didn't seem to be able to remember what they were called, relieved him of the ship in February 1821.
Aug 26th, 2011 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's the only pirate I can find.
Whenever I see some Argentine Tosser write “Pirates” its like confirmation of his Tosser status in the World Wankings of Tossers (WWT).
Aug 26th, 2011 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Currently the top seven positions are occupied by Argentinians - living or dead.
As the world public opinion is internalized more than Falklands conflict, many countries are sympathetic to the claim of sovereignty. And even within the UK believe it is possible to reach an agreement acceptable to both parties. Just so long to see newspapers and Web specialists in the subject.
Aug 26th, 2011 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is very important work of these years of Nestor and Cristina Kirchner to gamble as a state policy of disarmament and non-violence and opt for dialogue and peace among peoples, the fact is that Argentina has decreased significantly its military investment merely reducing it to essentials. This contrasts with the aggressive arms of Great Britain to hold a suspected nuclear base in the islands and yet still with the humanitarian bombing civilians in Libya. This has fallen badly in the world public opinion.
This is just a small step on the road to recovery of the islands and respect for territorial integrity and sovereignty removed in 1833. The British people can live on the islands, while respecting their culture and interests, but under the sovereignty Argentina without any problem, as the Welsh in Patagonia. The Welsh are fully integrated into society Argentina.
As Luther King: There are no roads to peace, peace is the road. I think most people's English is deep in the same feeling. Peace, dialogue and Nonviolence.
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Aug 26th, 2011 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're talking out of your bottom.
1 Argentina has become more aggressive towards the Islanders under the evil Kirchners.
2 Some Countries do have sympathies with Argentina just like some Countries had sympathies for Nazi Germany
3 Nuclear base?????? - my arse.
4 British people live on the Islands and will continue to live on the Islands under British sovereignty because that is their wish. Either respect their wishes or sling your hook.
5 The only people digging up the road to peace are Argentine facists.
1, acceptable, to both parties [as soon as you give up your stupid claim.
Aug 26th, 2011 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 02, policy of disarmament and non-violence [only because you cant afford it,
3, as said above--you are the violent ones,
4, why should, in this day and age, a free, peoples be subjected to dictatorship, from a 3rd rate dictatress,
5, the Devonians ,,are fully integrated into British society
[[ and your point is ?? ]]
6, all roads lead to Rome, [said Caesar ] unless we claim them [said Argentina ]
[[ if you belive in lies,,,you will never belive in the truth ]]
Briton 2011 ]
Raul - I think you will find that in Libya we are part of a multinational force enforcing UN security council resolution and I think you will have seen the vast majority of Libyans are grateful for how we have helped them. Do you wish to deny them their right to strive for democratic freedom (like your fiend Chavez appears to)?
Aug 26th, 2011 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you will find world opinion favor the new government of Libya that has been able to come to power with our help.
Argentina is a far away from getting control as it has ever been, and that is saying something. Ultimately Nestor and now his wife have failed to make any progress and in fact have cut Argentina out of any potential deals on oil exploration. I am quite glad about it as it is really good to laugh at such a pathetic bunch of failures that you have in Argentine politics!
BTW - how can we have a nuclear base on the islands when out only nuclear warheads are sub launched?
Think you have been taking CFKs medicine Raul!
“to hold a suspected nuclear base ”
Aug 26th, 2011 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You keep repeating this. care to explain? the only nuclear weapons the UK currently owns are from subs.
Facts and truth are concepts Raul struggles to comprehend. In addition, why would we need a nuclear base in the Falklands, when one Type 42 and four Typhoons is enough to keep the aggressor away!
Aug 27th, 2011 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0“HMS Edinburgh visits South Georgia to explore Lake Pahoe”
Aug 27th, 2011 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse -1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlN4Sh06po
I see Think admires the way we Brits like to make fun of ourselves. So you like our NHS and you like our comedy/sence of humor. Sounds to me like you are more British than would care to admit? Perhaps you should pop along to the Victory bar in Stanley and enjoy some Fish & Chips and a pint of bitter!
Aug 27th, 2011 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is this? Why no submarine sink this pirate boat?
Aug 27th, 2011 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(27)
Aug 27th, 2011 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Victory Bar is for cross dressers......
Broad-bottomed ladies, darts and booze at the Globe Tavern is more like it.......
I'll take your word for it! Doubt I will be in the Falklands anytime soon.
Aug 27th, 2011 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps he is from northern england,
Aug 27th, 2011 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0argie no way,
what would an argie know about missiles in a pint .lol
26 Think “HMS Edinburgh visits South Georgia to explore Lake Pahoe”
Aug 27th, 2011 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Hahahaha, nice documentary about the Rusty Edinburgh visit to our islands.
another indocrinated argie that cant tell the difference,
Aug 27th, 2011 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0monty python invades the argie homeland with teddy bears lol.
Given that the only nuclear missiles the UK currently have are submarine launched, and given that the main role of an SSBN is to disappear completely for months at a time, then Champna Pond (just north of Mount Pleasant) is arguably just about the last place that anyone would think of looking. That would make it a place worth thinking about (were it not for the minor overland trip that any submarine would have to make).
Aug 27th, 2011 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0still does not make the Falklands a nuclear base, does it,.
Aug 27th, 2011 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0unless of course you have discovered our secrete underground nuclear base 1 mile down under mount pleasant, with a direct route to the argentine
, but alas as it secrete I just don’t know, do i
34 Rufus:
Aug 28th, 2011 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do realise how stupid that assumption is, do you?
Does anyone not suspicious of Think excellent knowledge of English and Britain?
Aug 28th, 2011 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -1It is because he work at MI5 agent provoker and is complaining lists of people supporting Argentine claim so they can be monitored by security people.
By generating discussion on subject of Argentine sovereignty he is merely exposing ridiculous nature of our claims to las malvinas. The average Argentine does not care whether UN or EU or US gives any regard to legitimate nature of our wish to over-ride rights of people on those islands and subject them to Argentine rule. The average Argentine is conditioned from years of propaganda and merely wishes to take ownership of islands as is the right of a superior people to expand their living space.
Hitler was clear on the need for living space and this is too our philosophy! We have a long history of fascism and Think is well aware of this history. He is merely disguising his own employment by continuously underlining ridiculous nature of Argentine legitimacy to islands we have never settled, unless all male colony of Brit expats led by German ex pat under orders from British Embassy and an Argentine who took his place but was killed by own men weeks later, count!!! This is ridiculous. Our best claim to islands resides with papal edict!!! But I do not care for rights. Argentina has only rights, no one else. I represent average Argentine mindset. I am a fascist and always will be!
i see the indoctrination is wearing off, keep it up, and you might make some sense, besides we thought you guys were friends with think,
Aug 28th, 2011 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0an ex brit, probably a turncoat from the war, disgruntled, and anti British, and moved to argie land to sprout proper gander to his moles, just like lord haw haw,, but that is only a suggestion,
Under political correction rules we cannot state, as he may sew us,
chuckle chuckle brothers brothers, [CBBC] BBC1, THATS TV, to you guys,
Only a British person pretending to be Argentinian would try to accuse Think of being Pro-British.
Aug 28th, 2011 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“subject them to Argentine rule.”
British words.
“The average Argentine is conditioned from years of propaganda”
Again.
“is the right of a superior people to expand their living space.”
Yet again.
“Hitler was clear on the need for living space and this is too our philosophy! ”
Another example.
“islands we have never settled”
“Our best claim to islands resides with papal edict”
“I represent average Argentine mindset. I am a fascist and always will be!”
I'm going to call BS now. I informed i think fido(or forgetit) of who i thought you was and i still stand by it. Typhoon, you need to grow up mate. You're an embarrassment to the nation.
@ zethe
Aug 29th, 2011 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0No you are an embarrassment to the people of Argentina and you should be ashamed of yourself.
I am an Argentinian but clearly you are a fausse-couche! as they say in Quebec.
you are indocrinated,
Aug 29th, 2011 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you dont know who you are,
only what you are told,
@36 zethe
Aug 30th, 2011 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was being sarcastic (really wish there was a font for it). I was hoping to get some of the more lunatic people on here to work out exactly how many little wheels would have to be added to the 150 metre long, 15.9 kiloton submarines to drive them across to the pond.
I do believe that the only nuclear MISSILES that the UK has are submarine launched. I dare say there are a number of other bombs/munitions/depth charges etc being made, scrapped, stored and recycled, but producing a physics package and marrying it to a missile is a sufficiently major project that it's a fairly safe bet that someone will notice and say something.
“I dare say there are a number of other bombs/munitions/depth charges etc being made”
Aug 30th, 2011 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trident is the only UK nuclear weapons we own now. There are however a couple hundred US nuclear missiles stationed in the UK.
@43
Aug 30th, 2011 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Talking about weapons ... I can't find a SA80 in the US market. Do you have a ban on the sale of such rifles for civilian use?
Untill recently, yeah the SA80 was banned from Civilian sales. You have three options:
Aug 30th, 2011 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0L98A1(Lots of these were sold to Canada, you may find some floating around specialist dealers, probably expensive)
LEI SA-80(Available on EU markets).
Or in the USA the Prexis PL-85.
some say, because they may well be the best, rareaty makes them harder to obtain,
Aug 30th, 2011 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0thats only what i hear, no doubt others will prove a better rifle
@45 Cool !!! Thanks
Aug 30th, 2011 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reason they were not for civvy sale is a simple one really, Only Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield made them and they have been busy.
Aug 30th, 2011 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The new rifles are very good, One of the best ones around. Prexis one is expensive though.
2k and above? I would say withing price range with other assault rifles.
Aug 30th, 2011 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as long as we can have the best,
Aug 30th, 2011 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0our soldiers will be happy .
Don't buy an SA-80, they're utter crap.
Aug 30th, 2011 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, they aren't.
Aug 30th, 2011 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The old ones were. The L85A2 is infact one of the most accurate and reliable rifles around these days. The storys going around you hear about the SA-80 being awful are from the A1. And that was a terrible gun.
HK did a brilliant job improving the weapon back in i think 1998.
Forgot
Aug 30th, 2011 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The SA80 underwent international tests and the L85A2 beat weapons like the M16, Steyr AUG and G36 in reliability by a long way. They even had to make the shooting range tests harder because the gun made it too easy for people to pass.
I could tell you quite a few stories about the SA-80. It was a weapon that we had zero confidence in. Allied with the LSW, it was and remains a complete pile of shite. We didn't even have confidence in it as a club as it would fall apart and the bayonet was utter shite and would fall of if a mouse farted.
Aug 30th, 2011 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whilst HK might have dealt with a lot of problems with the SA-80, there were still problems when it was used in Afghanistan. And if you think it beats the G36 in reliability you are drinking the Coolaid. Don't believe everything you read.
And the L85A2 conversion, cost 3 times the cost of the G36. Though personally I really liked the HK53 when I was on exchange duty with the German Army.
Typical MoD fuck up, couldn't admit they got it wrong.
BTW the M-16 design is over 50 years old, you're comparing apples with oranges.
Well to be honest guys,
Aug 30th, 2011 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I’ve never fired a rifle so I can’t comment,
But I do believe that the British soldiers should have the best, no matter the cost,
I presume it is a matter of life and death,
So the best must be a must,
Despite crappy uninterested politicians, who probably know nothing of what they go throw,
Just an opinion.
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@53 @54
Aug 31st, 2011 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would recommend at this point to get together at a fire range of your choice and discuss these important issues !!! :-))))
Subjects to be discussed:
1. ACR vs SCAR
2. The fucked up sights of the DRAGUNOV
3. M16 vs SA80
4. why is the FN2000 (although very pretty in design, jams like a mother f***!!!
5. In terms of bullets 5.56 mm vs 7.62 mm
Anything else?
After a hard day of work, a BBQ would be appropiate to end the session.... a lots of beer!!
Well. A lot of ex Squaddies are pissed about it. And they rightly should be...It was awfull.
Aug 31st, 2011 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The new weapon however is great. The Marines complained about this in the press(Normal amry hasnt as far as i've seen)..Some say it's because they wanted the same guns as the special forces, cause they're classed as one. I duno, seems pretty political to me.
There is however a website called Arrse for army people. You won't find many people complaining about the weapon system on there. And there are current serving members out there in Afghanistan now.
I recall reading a topic on the forum and most squaddies were defending the rifle. Read what you like in the press i'll take the opinion of people currently using the rifles over the media any day.
Squad = Platoon?
Aug 31st, 2011 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A squaddie is just a nickname or slang for a member of the British infantry.
Aug 31st, 2011 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh !! equal to GI's in the American Army probably
Aug 31st, 2011 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah it's pretty much the same.
Aug 31st, 2011 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both are government issue , I believe ?,
Aug 31st, 2011 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeap, GI (Government issue)
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