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“Argentina’s turnaround tango” as an inspiration for Obama and US Congress

Saturday, September 3rd 2011 - 08:01 UTC
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An opinion editorial of the US newspaper The New York Times titled “Argentina’s turnaround tango” stated that President Barack Obama and the US Congress should look to Argentina “for inspiration” in economic policies issues. Nevertheless, the article also warned about the corruption and “government opacity“of the Latin American country. Read full article

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  • Frank

    Now there is a picture that says a thousand words..'Just do as you are told, you ugly old cow, or you will be needing more than plastic surgery........'

    Ian Mount? the wine writer? didn't know he was also an economist.......

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rubino84

    @1, to who shall we pay more attention, to you, a NOBODY who will be forever a pattetic NOBODY or to someone who writes in a column of the NYT?....hmmmmm

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (2) Rubino84

    Frank the Yank is no nobody in the Ozarks............
    Hollywood has even made a movie about people like him...........
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAgwj0gKJzc&feature=related

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    @3 Hahahaha, nice teeth Frank

    “Argentina has regained prosperity thanks to smart economic measures,” the article signed“
    ”stated that President Barack Obama and the US Congress should look to Argentina “for inspiration” in economic policies issues“
    That's right!

    Artillero, This Bud's for you:
    ”Once the eighth-largest economy in the world, it steadily slid through the 20th century, thanks to decades of repressive dictatorships ”

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Perhaps when you stop trying to conn everyone around to your corrupt way of thinking, they might take you seriously,
    Try giving up false claims and leave the Falklands alone,
    Before you try to give others moral advise,
    Least of all the Americans .

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    hahaha frank hahaha you're not even a native citizen of the united states of america, so why are you so angry? I love this ciberfights yeah
    this is for you people, this is BEAUTY!!!

    http://www.hola.com.ar/media/k2/items/cache/e34f0e1c02fdcca3c7fab2bae7fa299d_XL.jpg

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    Appears that Ian Mount listens to what the CFK government toadies say, instead of what has really been done (or not been done).

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    and she is thinking...' more fatty fried cow guts for your dinner tonight... that will fix you..........'

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    My name is Laughalot .
    Son of
    Auther
    Friend of
    Merlin
    I travel with my FALK looking for LAND
    When I find my Falkland I will protect till the end of time,
    For here Merin may sleep
    Protected by sheep,
    On this my Falkland,till I Awake
    Sir, Gallahad, 427AD
    For I am mad or a genius
    Or just British sense of humour
    Monty python , 1977,
    ,,

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @2
    Pilger , the man who gave the world 'pilgerism',, has been published in the NYT... so your point is exactly....???

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    One dirty little secret not mentioned in the opinion is billions of stolen wealth from the population and the nationalization of many industries. That along with high taxes has propped up the gov't spending. Now it has run out and there is no more hard currency left in the country to steal, hmm well maybe there are union dues and health care dues that can be appropriated. Let's see, accuse the unions of corruption, then appropriate the dues “to protect the peoples' wealth” ( just like she did with Anses) voila a new revenue stream, there is another year to get by, let's see what happens after the elections.

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge ferreiro

    The NY Times writer is an idiot
    The problems with Argentina are numerous
    #1 corrupt President and pervasive corruption throughout society
    #2 high inflation
    #3 long history of confiscating assets from citizens
    #4 Inflexible labor rules
    #5 No strong checks and balances on the President

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    One dirty little secret not mentioned in the opinion is billions of stolen wealth from the population and the nationalization of many industries. That along with high taxes has propped up the gov't spending. Now it has run out and there is no more hard currency left in the country to steal, hmm well maybe there are union dues and health care dues that can be appropriated. Let's see, accuse the unions of corruption, then appropriate the dues “to protect the peoples' wealth” ( just like she did with Anses) voila a new revenue stream, there is another year to get by, let's see what happens after the elections.

    Sep 03rd, 2011 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    #1 corrupt President and pervasive corruption throughout society
    Same can be said of China or India.

    #3 long history of confiscating assets from citizens
    ?

    #4 Inflexible labor rules
    Same applies to Germany and the Scandinavian countries, all of which are faring better than the US.

    #5 No strong checks and balances on the President
    ?

    Sep 04th, 2011 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero601

    @4

    “Artillero, This Bud's for you ...” No, thanks, I drink Corona or Heineken.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayGztY9OmXw&feature=share

    Sep 04th, 2011 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • geo

    [] -12 j.ferro

    ARG canceled the debts with IMF

    ARG has been permanently growing since 2003

    ARG had an effective response to global economic crisis 2008

    ARG manufacturing exporting exceed agro origin exportings

    ARG has unemployment rates down(from part time to full time up )

    ARG has 60 billions US $ BCRA reserves

    ARG enter into G 20 club

    ARG sue the employers who employ slave labour

    ARG has no foreclosure events on rural(agro) lands since 2003

    ARG repeal of Federal Law of Education,enacted it's National Education law for publicly & freely...1060 new schools built...rehabilitated for the
    the retirees( e.g : 125 % increase on pensions to veterans of the Falklands...) ... free delivery monthly ARV drugs......many gas pipe line,
    interconnected routes... biofuels..windpower projects.......etc..etc... !!

    these are ARG realities !!

    Sep 04th, 2011 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    15 Artillero601 Nice comedy.

    Sep 04th, 2011 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    #16 Geo - ARG has 60 billions US $ BCRA reserves ??? As of yesterday, it was less than 50; has CFK and company already stolen 10 billion?

    Sep 04th, 2011 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero601

    @17 You deny it?

    @18 probably, check tomorrow again just in case :-))

    Sep 04th, 2011 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    19. I am sure there are some idiots that do that however those idiots look so fake and at the same time Cristina doesn't need “their help”

    Sep 05th, 2011 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Henry Curtis

    The Kirchners defaulted on the national debt, “Nationalized” the reserves of the private pension system, Replaced the dollars in the Central Bank with bonds backed up by the Central bank; ditto, National Bank and National Reinsurance Institute, raised taxes, specially on grain and meat exports to new heights.

    Practically every statistic published by the government is wrong For example: deducting those receiving government unemployment subsidies from the number of unemployed; claiming inflation is around 8% and fined economic consultants U$S 125.000 for publishing that the real inflation is around 25%

    Overstated public housing construction by including private housing construction in the figures.

    That is just the beginning: Corruption is rampart. A great part of the public works and subsidies go to cronies and controlling prices in many areas.

    With all that it has scared off new investments and lost traditional export markets.

    What keeps the country going is high Soy bean prices.

    Could it be that the Argentina example should not be copied?????

    Sep 05th, 2011 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (21) Henry Curtis

    On the very first line, you say:
    “The Kirchners defaulted on the national debt”

    I say:
    Argentina defaulted on its debt between December 2001 and July 2002.
    Nestor Kirchner assumed as President on the 25. May 2003.
    Since then, he and his wife have regained Argentina's prosperity thanks to smart economic measures.

    The rest of your text is either incorrect or grossly twisted.

    Get your facts right before embarrasing yourself......................

    Sep 05th, 2011 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    22 - A perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.

    Sep 06th, 2011 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bubba

    @Think, you really should pull your head from your bottom. They magic turnaround has been financed by K's refusal to deal on the default and mandating higher duties etc... nothing magic about that, and zero evidence of any kind of fiscal management..

    Sep 08th, 2011 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    All that Argentine prosperity, real or imagined and STILL those stubborn Islanders want nothing to do with you.

    Sep 09th, 2011 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    Its so funny all the bitter English or Neo Liberal boludos on here who cant accept Argentina under the Kirchners has grown spectacularly.Car Sales from 150000 to 800,000 Exports trebled,unemployment halved,poverty rates from 50% to 8% Whats even more galling is while Europe and North america move from recession to depression the party in Buenos Aires will go on.

    Sep 09th, 2011 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • claubruroe

    excellent article that may annoy some. Kirchners in fact did not default, it was done before. It was not possible not to default. There was no help from any institution, which Turkey, Brazil and Uruguay did get at the time. There were more than 55 different local monnies or paper currencies as a consequence of debt-deflation policies. There was no coherent national market left. On the other hand, there was no export market left once Brazil devalued its own currency and the peso continued to be so over-valued. And the pegging brought internal inflation in dollars while labour costs were made extremely high. And Mexico has been the model that proved that no one can repay debt beyond a certain limit. In this sense, Greece is getting very close to this story, unfortunately. This is not the way to competitiveness.
    Corruption may even be lower than in the 90s in fact, but clientelism and animosity are not. The same for short and medium-term measures. Main challenges touch upon the long-term structuring of sectors in the economy in order to maintain sustainable growth, the rebuilding of state institutions such as a high quality bureaucracy that advances the rule of law, and the rebuilding of social cohesion within the country.

    Sep 09th, 2011 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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