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Haiti UN peacekeeping force led by Brazil will begin gradual pullout

Friday, September 9th 2011 - 02:24 UTC
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Brazil's Defense minister said on Thursday that Haiti's peacekeeping force of 12,000 soldiers and police, known as MINUSTAH, will begin a gradual withdrawal aimed at turning security over to the Haitians, but not imperiling the stability achieved. Read full article

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  • GeoffWard2

    I rather got the impression that the Brasilian-led Minustah proved not up to the task, particularly once the earthquake struck.
    Did not the USA just take over and effectively got the heavy job done?

    Sep 09th, 2011 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    ^
    ^
    Lol

    Sep 10th, 2011 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    Did not the USA just take over and effectively got the heavy job done?

    You rather have that into your thick head, because it doesn't fit in your mind that a nation like Brazil could handle it and still handles it well. Geoff, seriously, what you have been taught in the UK about the rest of the world, at your government school and how to think, how to act, was pure to keep you dumb and a tool for them. You still haven't figured that out huh. And to anser that question if the US took over and got the job heavy job done. No, they didn't. Where do you get your information from huh? Zombie news BBC international?

    You see Forget, this is what I meant awhile ago why Europe never goes forward. There are thousands of idiots like geoff there with that mindset. Sadly. That's one of the reasons I left from there and don't bother much with expatriots here. Their knowledge is terrible, don't even bother to do their proper homework, but in their head, they are superior. They can't and will never change and unfortunately the youth there is taking it over, because they're being taught by clowns like him at high schools and universities and don't question them or don't do their own homework.

    Old people are nice, but oh lord they can be so dumb fuck stupid.

    Sep 10th, 2011 - 05:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    Fido, this condescending treatment of LatAm nations is a genuinely British thing. Only their former colonies have virtues. All others have been permanently ruined by imperial Latins (French, Portuguese, Spanish). But funny: according to this very article, the troops that screwed up the most in Haiti were from former British colonies, Nepal and Sri Lanka.

    The US hasn't done things any better. The only reason we're in Haiti, is that in 2004 (or 2003) a US-led coalition deposed a Haitian president, Jean Aristide. He'd been democratically and wasn't any sort of abuser of his people. But you see, his rule was just inconvinient to US business interests in there. Haiti's the only country in the world where there's a presence of UN peacekeeping troops without there being a national, multi-partisan support for it. It wound up in this situation b/c of US pressure: the US wanted to keep some sort of control over the country; but it secure a direct presence in there b/c the invasion they led back in 2004 was quite controversial. Thus they convinced a multitude of countries to instead send their troops there. Most of'em were drawn from LatAm countries out of geographical issues alone.

    In Congressional hearings, Brazilian military chiefs made it clear that they were under strong pressure from the US, Canada, and France, to employ more force in dealing with Haitians: for instance, against drug cartels that hide in highly populated slums. Such missions would've resulted in many deaths if executed by Minustah as told by the US. You can imagine the bloodbath that would've been if the US was in charge of Minustah. Just look at Iraq and Afghanistan to see US troops' restraint around 3rd Worlders. One Brazilian general resigned; another committed suicide: perhaps due to pressure to be 'tough'.

    Amorim is deciding to withdraw from there because he knows the jsutifications - the US justifications - for the occupation are ultimately bogus.

    Sep 10th, 2011 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Perhaps I shall have to be a bit more obvious with my 'Captain America' comment.

    Whatever,
    without the aid-air-bridge provided by the USA, the post-earthquake mortalities would have been much, much worse - however hard Brasil was pushing through Minustah.

    I guess, if Brasil, the USA, Nepal and Sri Lanka and all the rest can't do it for Haiti, we should leave them to settle their conflicts themselves. This should reduce the population by armed attrition, starvation and disease, and reduce Haiti's ranking in the world (but isn't Haiti already in last position?).

    'Humanity' demands that the UN don't give up on Haiti, even if Brasil pulls out.

    Sep 10th, 2011 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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