Brazil will hold off plans to purchase new fighter jets until at least 2012 as the government cuts spending to fight the global economic crisis, Brazilian Foreign Minister Antonio Patriota said in New York. Read full article
If it must be military, then let us together (UNASUR) develop a modern and appropiate defensive Swarm Technology based on hyper and supersonic drones and missiles.
That would be the only effective deterrent against the real agressors and pirates of the 21'th century.
We could get a hell of a lot bees and wasps for that money.
They are still going for it Think, they just want it cheaper and at the right time. Boeing is leading and is willing to do business with Brazil and give what Brazil wants. You don't think they want to lead in the so called UNASUR? Of course they want that.
It's an interesting one, quantitvely I'd go for Brazil (1 Aircraft Carrier, 9 Frigates & 5 Submarines) over Chile (8 Frigates, 4 Submarines), but qualitavly I'd say Chile at the moment.
If you look at the Brazilian fleet, the carrier is a Clemenceau class (the Clemenceau was riddled with so much toxic waste and asbestos that ordinary shipbreakers wouldn't touch it. I don't think the other ship in the class was built substantially differently.
The frigates are six Type 21 frigates and three Type 22 batch 1 frigates.
The Submarines are all Type 209s, which while fairly good aren't exactly in the first flush of youth.
Compare with the Chilean Navy:
Their frigates are a mixture of Type 23 frigates (3), four ex-Royal Netherlands Navy frigates (which are under 20 years old) and one Type 22 batch 2 ship.
The submarines are also a mix, two are 209s, but the other two are new (i.e. launched less than ten years ago) Scorpiene class boats.
Of course, the Brazilians are looking (in the indeterminate future) looking at modernising their fleet (Scorpienes, and potentially either type 26 or FREMM Frigates) in the next decade or two.
It would really depend on experience would it not,
Just because you have more ships / subs /planes /men
Does not mean that you will win,
I believe experience and a lot of luck and planning may help
Very true- while more is good, more modern (in terms of hardware) and more experienced (in terms of manpower) are both better.
Surprise does pretty much trump everything though, if you can sink or cripple your opponent's ships before they can fire at you then it doesn't matter how much more advanced their ships were...
This article has certainly become the home of Advanced Military Strategists....
I'm humbled by their insight!
I wouldn´t have a chance against them on a round of Counter-Strike or WOW
10 Think
Very childish,
An answer to a question is just that,
But then again if you have a better answer to the question,
Then lets hear it,
If not go dig some turnips up,
They might show you a thing or to,
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Sep 23rd, 2011 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let's put those 7 billion to better use.
If it must be military, then let us together (UNASUR) develop a modern and appropiate defensive Swarm Technology based on hyper and supersonic drones and missiles.
That would be the only effective deterrent against the real agressors and pirates of the 21'th century.
We could get a hell of a lot bees and wasps for that money.
They are still going for it Think, they just want it cheaper and at the right time. Boeing is leading and is willing to do business with Brazil and give what Brazil wants. You don't think they want to lead in the so called UNASUR? Of course they want that.
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps it will be nice to see (UNASUR) navy
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0brazil and argentina, of the coast of Africa fighting the real pirates of the 21st century,
# 3UNASUR NAVY (BRAZIL AND ARGENTINA)? LOL Argentinean navy is a joke in fact the most advance navy in South America is the Chilean Navy
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well if you listen to some of these argie bloggers, ??
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but of course you are right, the argie navy is rowing boats is it not lol.
the most advance navy in South America is the Chilean Navy
Sep 24th, 2011 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0No it's not, Chilean navy is equal to the Argentine navy and Compare to the Brazilian navy, the Brazilians beats you both.
@6 Fido
Sep 24th, 2011 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's an interesting one, quantitvely I'd go for Brazil (1 Aircraft Carrier, 9 Frigates & 5 Submarines) over Chile (8 Frigates, 4 Submarines), but qualitavly I'd say Chile at the moment.
If you look at the Brazilian fleet, the carrier is a Clemenceau class (the Clemenceau was riddled with so much toxic waste and asbestos that ordinary shipbreakers wouldn't touch it. I don't think the other ship in the class was built substantially differently.
The frigates are six Type 21 frigates and three Type 22 batch 1 frigates.
The Submarines are all Type 209s, which while fairly good aren't exactly in the first flush of youth.
Compare with the Chilean Navy:
Their frigates are a mixture of Type 23 frigates (3), four ex-Royal Netherlands Navy frigates (which are under 20 years old) and one Type 22 batch 2 ship.
The submarines are also a mix, two are 209s, but the other two are new (i.e. launched less than ten years ago) Scorpiene class boats.
Of course, the Brazilians are looking (in the indeterminate future) looking at modernising their fleet (Scorpienes, and potentially either type 26 or FREMM Frigates) in the next decade or two.
It would really depend on experience would it not,
Sep 24th, 2011 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just because you have more ships / subs /planes /men
Does not mean that you will win,
I believe experience and a lot of luck and planning may help
Very true- while more is good, more modern (in terms of hardware) and more experienced (in terms of manpower) are both better.
Sep 25th, 2011 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Surprise does pretty much trump everything though, if you can sink or cripple your opponent's ships before they can fire at you then it doesn't matter how much more advanced their ships were...
Chuckle Chuckle™
Sep 25th, 2011 - 06:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0This article has certainly become the home of Advanced Military Strategists....
I'm humbled by their insight!
I wouldn´t have a chance against them on a round of Counter-Strike or WOW
:-)))
10 Think
Sep 25th, 2011 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very childish,
An answer to a question is just that,
But then again if you have a better answer to the question,
Then lets hear it,
If not go dig some turnips up,
They might show you a thing or to,
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