The UK government regrets that “Argentina is considering withdrawing from yet another agreement with the United Kingdom” said on Thursday a spokesperson for the British embassy in Buenos Aires in reference to Argentina’s statement before the UN to further isolate the Falklands/Malvinas Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAgain, Argentina conspicuous for a quick withdrawal...
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't that a medical problem ? :-)
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, just exceptionally ineffective...
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Trying to deny the islanders their right to self-determination is sad”
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trying to hold a colony in the 21St century is stupid.
Holding a colony in the 21st century is better than holding a nation of 40 million people in the 19th century!
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#4 so why does Argentina have such a hard on about colonising the Falklands then?
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very very interesting http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/jun/28/falklands.past
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Justin has got you there Marcos! Just a classic example of Argentina's illogical attitudes towards the Falklands conflicting with itself.
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#7 yes, interesting, specially the conclusion from honest media in UK
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0” But today's official history makes clear that Britain's claim to the Falklands is not as strong as has been made out.
Sir Lawrence points out that Britain relied, not on prior discovery, but on a small settlement established in 1766 but abandoned in 1774. When Britain recognised Argentinian independence in 1825, it did so without any claim to the Falklands, which were then under an Argentinian governor living there.
Britain seized the islands by force in 1833.
· The Official History of the Falklands Campaign, Sir Lawrence Freedman, published by Routledge Taylor & Francis Group, volume 1
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/jun/28/falklands.past
I thought the refusal to let Argentine air carriers fly into the Falklands had more to do with the fact that prior to their invasion in 1980-82, the Argentine civilian aircraft flying into Port Stanley were all piloted by Argentine Air Force intelligence officers. These civilian aircraft were equipped with aerial surveillance cameras and routinely had navigational difficulties on their routes into the airfield allowing them to thorough map the island for invasion. During their layovers, these same pilots scouted towns and government facilities for the same purposes. Having previously shown a propensity to abuse civilian flight access for for military purposes, trust is lacking to believe they would not do so again.
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently if we don’t do as Argentina says
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They will get really tough
AND I MEAN TOUGH
They will erm ,um
Refuse to look at the union jack at the embassy,
And erm um, refuse to talk to anyone from Britain,
Erm um,
Ban east enders and coronation street,
Erm um
Ban all references to the British in any Argentinean newspapers,
Erm um,
More later erm um .
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Sep 23rd, 2011 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No conqueror, Grow up. Im all up for a bit of Argy bashing but the stuff you come out with is just plain embarrassing.
Sep 23rd, 2011 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rotten
Sep 24th, 2011 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think you have any medical problem!! mate!! you are sick of alcohol!!!
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Sep 24th, 2011 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting article that shows the US is not Britain's greatest ally and never will be.
The Guardian is a fine newspaper but if in 1982 they had undermined the war effort and promoted handing over the Falkland Islanders to right wing facists they would be as dead as the News of the World is now.
The Botox Queen cannot now withdraw her threat, to do so would mean losing face and possibly the election. She is now on the slippery slope to declaring another War. A War where many people on both sides will die. Britain will be fighting for the Falkland Islanders, its own kith and kin. Argentina will be fighting for false pride and resources it has no right to.
Have to admit I was probably a bit under the weather because I can't remember what I typed.
Sep 24th, 2011 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, it is clear that all that argies understand is force. For example, every time one gets on here and comes out with their usual tripe, my eyes hurt.
I just hope that, if 15 is right, Britain makes sure that Argentina will never be a problem for the Falkland Islands or Britain ever again. The only thing to do with a would-be bully is to smash her flat. Britain was far too gentle in 1982. But Britain has better equipment now. Love to see argie faces as they watch the RAF's tanker transports fly in with additional troops and equipment, together with the Typhoons they'll have refuelled on the way. I reckon Britain can be there in less than 15 hours. assuming there's still an argie invasion force by then. Think of all those lovely submarines. And what just ONE achieved in 1982.
Let's hope the BQ will just let the idea drop. Or does she not care how many argies will die? I'm sure she'll lay on lots of bands and flag waving. But will they think it's worth it when they're drowning in the South Atlantic?
Argentina could not physically take the islands. They would not even meet any missiles or tanker aircraft.
Sep 24th, 2011 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To get troops onto the islands it requires ships. Those ships would have to dodge anti ship missiles launching off typhoon aircraft. They would not reach the islands, it's just not possible with what they have.
The only way they could even TRY and take the islands would be by launching troops by submarine...100-200 lightly armored argy marines can not take a fully equipped british base with over 1500 troops, air support and air superiority in under 48 hours(before reinforcements arrive) It's just not going to happen. At all.
unless brazil helps them
Sep 24th, 2011 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just a thought,
or she slides to war, with a false pretex, to get the world to turn against britain,
she may not be powerfull,
but she is clever and caniving,
The Argentines are fanatics on this issue and like all fanatics they secretly realise their cause is lost.
Sep 25th, 2011 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Depends if you believe the Americans or not,
Sep 25th, 2011 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For a nation that is supposed to have nothing,
Certainly rattled the Americans not so long ago, to make note on it,
Do you believe what the Americans had to say .??
They will try again. We must be ready.
Sep 25th, 2011 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We will be ready.
Sep 25th, 2011 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The next Falklands War would provide the European Union with an opportunity to prove it EU Military Command. While I hop it doesn't happen, judging from the rhetoric and the continued ramping up of tension, it is on the cards.
I think many in the EU will want to prove that the EU Military Command works, but also it is in the EU's best interest that Falklands sovereignty is defended.
British troops have been involved in EU operations in former French colonies in Africa. The EU Military Command has to be seen to be something other than solely occupied with French interests in Africa.
The next Falklands War would provide the European Union with an opportunity to prove it EU Military Command
Sep 26th, 2011 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is no such command.
I think many in the EU will want to prove that the EU Military Command works
Except the UK, who strongly oppose such an idea.
British troops have been involved in
Is exactly the reason we dont want an EU command. Countrys like the UK and to a lesser extent france are the only ones in Europe who are willing to put boots on the ground.
Seems like over the last week i've spent more time correcting British posters than Argentinans...
There are a number of unified military commands organised by the EU -
Sep 26th, 2011 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_European_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_European_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_European_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_European_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_European_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_European_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_European_Union
There is no EU military command. From your own link:
Sep 26th, 2011 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0The EU currently has a limited mandate over defence issues
NATO is a military command system, the EU does not have a system like this. Lady ashton only just tried to set up a EU military command like NATO it was to be based in london but the UK government said no.
The french and british co operation deal is exactly that, just co operation. It's not a military command no matter how you word it. There are several small independant treatys but again - No EU military command system is in place.
ZETHE is correct,
Sep 26th, 2011 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The EU force is just a minor organisation by name, at the moment,
The EU would love a European army/navy/ect , but the British are most adamant that this will not happen,
Did you not see the papers last week, the euro masters were at it again and again vetoed by the British,
It would undermine, NATO and the British and French the right to implement their own decisions,
It may come one day, if politicians, get their way,
Millions of brit oppose this move,
And so do I, the British military must remain British,
Helping out European nations is one thing; giving them power is another,
Besides all you will do is probably create a greedy corrupt sleeping giant,
Keep British, British, [DITTO]
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