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Falklands’ governor praises local Chilean community and links with Chile
The Falklands Governor praised the Chilean members of the Islands community, described them as well integrated and good workers and said he hoped to further increase and consolidate the good longstanding relations with Chile and its people. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulespraising chile? sounds like desperation to me. in the not so distant future if the UK continues to ignore Argentina's claim (and that of the world community)* the islanders will have to swim to Chile to get there.
Sep 26th, 2011 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*the G77 has included the Malvinas question in the latest round this week; asking the UK to cooperate.
Is the 'world community' now making a claim? Goodness, we must be important if the entire world wants a piece of us.
Sep 26th, 2011 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK isn't ignoring anyone's claim. They are just doing the Falkland Islanders the courtesy of asking us what we would like to do before they talk to you.
until they sit down to negotiate peacefully with Argentina, problems never finished. Strengthening ties with Chile, Uruguay or whoever, the solution will never be true.
Sep 26th, 2011 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 nonsense. they would have returned the south georgia and south sandwich islands if what you think is all that matters to them. perhaps the local penguins in those islands wish to remain british as well?
Sep 26th, 2011 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just remind us all why Argentina is claiming South Georgia?
Sep 26th, 2011 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Returned' in what sense? When was South Georgia part of Argentina?
Troneas - no one gives a crap. None of your “supporters” have backed up their words with actions. You are an irrelevancy and can be ignored.
Sep 26th, 2011 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The drill bit turns!
4 Troneas
Sep 26th, 2011 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Georgias del Sur and Islas Sandwich del Sur have never been Argentine. Las Malvinas also has never been ours as Luis Vernet recognised British sovereignty with the British Embassy in Buenos Aires.
Truth is our claim lies with papal bull of 1498! WHO CAN ARGUE WITH PAPAL BULL????
WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF FASCISM, THE PEOPLE OF LAS MALVINAS DO NOT MATTER, THEY IS PIRATES.
WE DO NOT CARE WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG, WE HAVE ALL OF AFRICA ON OUR SIDE, WE HAVE CHINA ON OUR SIDE, WE HAVE MUCH OF SOUTH AMERICA ON OUR SIDE, WE HAVE NORTH KOREA ON OUR SIDE, WE HAVE IRAN ON OUR SIDE, WE HAVE PRESIDENT GADAFFI ON OUR SIDE!
PEOPLE OF LAS MALVINAS IS PIRATE. I HATE PIRATE.
MYSELF AND TRONEAS ARE LAS MALVINAS PATRIOTS WE HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE BUT WE LOVE THOSE ISLANDS, WE DREAM OF THEM EVERY DAY, I WISH TO DIE FOR THESE ISLANDS! I DO NOT THINK TRONEAS A COWARD, HE WOULD LIKE TO DIE FOR THEM 2!!!!
GO HOME PIRATES OR BE REBORN ARGENTINE, LIKE OUR ARGENTINE HERO TERRY PECK, HE IS A GREAT PATRIOT, A HERO OF ARGENTINA (I HOPE HE DOES NOT CHANGE HIS MIND HE IS NOW A MAJOR WEAPON IN OUR PROPAGANDA WAR, HE MAY BE DIS
Maybe Nigel Haywood wants to sign an agreement with Argentina that we, too will go to “polish the boots” to you? So it is not our way of being. Servants of you? NEVER
Sep 26th, 2011 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 08 JPL
Sep 26th, 2011 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is concern that we become servants of China, but i believe we have much to learn from them on treatment of political prisoners, there is much money to be made in organ harvest.
@7 I really do love those islands. and i love all the islanders since i consider them just as argentine as i am, born in the new world in argentine soil. i would love to see the day when argentines finally unite and the islanders would come to enjoy the opera at the Colon, or educate themselves at our universities, and the people from the continent could share a pint of lager with them at the local pub in Puerto Argentino. Islanders coming to Buenos Aires to teach english, show us their way of life. The fact that there are two very distinct cultures shouldn't be an impediment to share what is rightfully ours; or that we could all strife for a better country together. on the contrary, it would make the whole place much richer both culturally and in ideas.
Sep 26th, 2011 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But they do not want to belong to our country. They will all leave, or they will die in fight to reclaim islands.
Sep 26th, 2011 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just as people in Rio Grande would resist, die or leave if British took over.
They are pirates, they are not worth considering. They land is worth more to our country without them in occupation of it.
They is pirates!
BTW i meant “strive” not “strife” above ;)
Sep 26th, 2011 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Nigel Haywood Born in England, former Ambassador of Estonia and Consul of occupied Basra, Iraq and now the colonial British Governor of Malvinas says:
Sep 26th, 2011 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“particularly the Chilean community who miss their national produce as well as fresh fruit and vegetables, far cheaper than those from the UK”
What a cry baby this englishman is, using the Chileans as toys of his selfish propaganda, you don't like the expensive prices Niguel? Too bad.
The 300 members of the Chilean community are welcome to join the hundreds of thousands of Chileans living in mainland Argentina, if they wish to do so.
10 Troneas
Sep 26th, 2011 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why would we want to educate ourselves at your universities when we can go to British universities?
And you can come to Stanley if you want to learn English and find out about our culture.
Marcos Alejandro = a Nazi loon
Sep 27th, 2011 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is Argentina using Chileans for political propaganda.
“The British government does not decide what is done in the Islands, except for foreign affairs and defence” said Haywood
Sep 27th, 2011 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like cuts in defense are comming...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8789867/Scores-of-sailors-from-Libya-campaign-to-be-axed.html
Marcos- what a sad life you have taking as truth all the trash written in UK newspapers- next thing you will be saying you believe all that is written in Arg ones as well! Ever heard the expression “Headline Seansationalism”?
Sep 27th, 2011 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Simple verifiable fact - a policy carried out by EVERY british Govt since 1982 when conducting a Defence Review:
Whilst Argentina maintains its Sovereignty Demands and Aggressive stance - the Defence requirements of the Falklands are Ring-Fenced. That means they are not subject to squeeze.cuts etc etc - and if the forces Commander wants more/newer - he gets it!
Why dont you oraganise a referendum amongst the Chilean Community here - I have no doubt at all they would tell you and all other Argentines where to go! They like it here - that is why they are here!
#17
Sep 27th, 2011 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos is right ....... MoD seems “wrong” quite often in their estimates and predictions......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/sep/25/libya-conflict-uk-defence-bill
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/sep/25/libya-conflict-uk-defence-bill
or are they still seeking weapons of mass destruction in Iraq ??? Tony Blair a peace nobel prize.......the same path is walking Cameron now.
The more cautious and wise attitude for the islanders today would concentrate efforts to talk to Argentina and settle the problem peacefully and with goodwill, now is a good time.
17 Islander1 “Why dont you oraganise a referendum amongst the Chilean Community here”
Sep 27th, 2011 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, I will do that soon that you raise their miserable wages, this way they can afford a £21.95 steak at the Malvina Restaurant instead of washing the British elite's dirty dishes.
http://www.malvinahousehotel.com/index.php?page=restaurant
Nice menu Islander, you can share those vegetables with them too.
“ALL MAIN COURSES ARE SERVED TO YOU COMPLETE WITH LOCAL GROWN GARDEN VEGETABLES”
MoreCrap, if the Islanders' ever need fertilizer then you seem to have more than enough for everyone !
Sep 27th, 2011 - 03:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Otherwise known as BS :-)
Red, Whenever the islanders need fertilizer they just use English food. For those who have been to UK and discovered how shitty English cuisine truely is, know what I'm talking about :-)
Sep 27th, 2011 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle™
Sep 27th, 2011 - 04:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can see that the British governor is doing what he can to praise and please the Chileans.
It was high time..................!
”The Chileans are part of the Falklands’ community; they are good workers”, he said…………......................
Wooow!!!.................... Did he really say: “Good workers”
That’s biiiiiiiig coming from the British governor.
Not “nice people” or “excellent” human beings.
”Good Workers” suffices.
Thank you, Sahib.
And then……………….., FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER ;-), the official reception of the ”18 de Septiembre”
Many Chileans in Malvinas can’t still believe their luck.
Maybe the next step will be decent wages ……….
http://www.laprensaaustral.cl/cronica/gobernador-de-las-falklands-los-argentinos-no-pueden-decirles-a--5459
@19. interesting. where do they get their beef from do you know? is it some mad cow that they ship from the UK?
Sep 27th, 2011 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0So tell me Think - what would the good Governor have to say about Argentines?
Sep 27th, 2011 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another well spudded I see.
No obvious progress at the UN !
Not so far at least. Wonder what will happen at the 4th Committee next month.
Another ignorable Resolution?
Perhaps. Perhaps not.
Time will tell.
And we have all the time in the world :-)
I see none of those Argentine “supporters” are taking any actions in support of Argentina.
Sep 27th, 2011 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Carry on ignoring those vocal Argies, all hot air from a powerless bunch.
Chuckle Chuckle!
BRUNO TECAY: Argentinos to be creazy. I was Falkland Islands and Falkland Give work many Chilean, that don´t have here Punta Arenas. The Islands, it is very people.
Sep 27th, 2011 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Finipup.
Sep 27th, 2011 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a fool! Down to relying on the papal bull of 1498 now, are we? What a nob. That bull was disregarded by most of the world, even in 1498. and the view of the current papacy is that it's ridiculous, ineffective and meaningless.
Try the principle of “uti possidetis”. At the end of a war, territory and property remains with the possessor. All the territory you mention was in the possession of Britain/Falkland Islands on 14 June 1982. That was it. All your claims ended on that day. It is why Britain can say “We have no doubts about our sovereignty”.
That's the bottom line, sunshine. In 1982, you took a gamble. You lost! It's over. You no longer have a legitimate claim, if you ever had one. Everything you do now is blatant aggression. Against which the United Kingdom, or Britain, is entitled to take any necessary action.
Developing Chile links is good.
Sep 27th, 2011 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But Chile could change its politics with a change of President at any general election.
With a party of the revolutionary left in government, the FI-Chile link could disappear in an instant.
No offense BUT the Governor sounded like the plantation owner and the “negroes ” in the back, picking up the cotton ..... Just my opinion.
Sep 27th, 2011 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 023 Troneas, Probably :-)
Sep 27th, 2011 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reading the real article @22:
Governor said
“Sólo en materia de Defensa dependen del Reino Unido. “Esta relación es muy distinta a la visión colonialista tradicional”, precisa.
... ”This relationship is very different from traditional colonial vision“ he says.
Ohhh, and how would you call it ”Governor”?, A modern Brirish colony?
29 Artillero601
This colonial Governor doesn't just sound like a plantation owner, he think he is the plantation owner.
#29 I think something got lost in the translation. Its not something we would normally say.
Sep 27th, 2011 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands and Chile
Sep 27th, 2011 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe that there are a few things that ought to be known about the old, cordial, and fruitful relationship between Chileans and Falkland Islanders.
In 1877, the Governor of Magallanes, Diego Duble Almeyda went to the Falklands onboard the Chilean corvette “Chacabuco” to look for sheep, which would later serve to establish and develop the present sheep farms and related industries in the Magellan region.
In 1903, the school-ship “General Baquedano” stopped in Stanley on her way to a Mediterranean cruise. In the 1990's the school-ship “Esmeralda” on a similar cruise stopped in Saint-Helena, but who knows why not also in the Falklands.
In the days when Argentina didn't give a hoot about the British Falklands, Chile had Consulates in the Falklands, between 1877 and 1959. The following gentlemen were Honorary Consuls of Chile:
1. F.E. Cobb, 1877-1891; 2. A.E. Baillon, 1882-1899; 3. W.A. Harding, 1900-1918;
4. James Houston, 1919-1923; 5. Henry Gresham, 1924-1928; No appointments were made between, 1928-1935; 6. Ernesto Rowe, 1936-1953; 7. Duncan Russell Watson, 1953-1959.
There are no rational explanations why no other appointments have been made since 1959. A Consulate is now needed more than ever, since there are more and more Chileans in the Falklands.
An obtuse and fascistic Argentinean Government is now, just threatening, to disregard one more agreement- in a long list of treaties, arbitrations, contracts, loans, not honoured.
What Chileans and Islanders as well ought to keep in mind is that the Argentinean Consulate in Punta Arenas is a trouble-making center of operations, and a spy's nest. Do you remember the “Leeds Castle” insulting incident against the Royal Navy when Chile had as “foreign minister” an incompetent and amateurish woman?
Honni soit qui mal y pense,
Philippe
No offense ,but Argentina sounds a backward country
Sep 27th, 2011 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina – Too much child labour, insufficient education
http://laboureconomics.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/argentina-too-much-child-labour-insufficient-education/
Although child labour is prohibited by law, it is still present in the urban areas of Argentina and endangers the education of children and adolescents. A study of the catholic University of Argentina (UCA) estimates that there are 17% of working children and youth aged five to 17 years in the cities of Argentina. They primarily help parents with the housework or are employed as domestic servants. About 7% of children and young people work as overseers of siblings, they cook, clean, make beds, do shopping, wash and iron. Nearly 9% of working children work outside the home and about 1% both in domestics well as non-house. Moreover girls work three times more in the household as boys.
I did't see any Chilean when I visited Malvinasas ,
Sep 27th, 2011 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but I saw few other things there.
The exclusion of argentines from Malvinas is in sharp contrast with the climate of complete civic freedom which substantial british community has prospered in Argentina.
Sep 27th, 2011 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its not mine, I cant write this way, dont remember were i took it from.
But its true.
(28) GeoffWard
Sep 27th, 2011 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Especially now that the Right, the Center and the Left political forces in Chile are becoming aware of the true intentions of Britain in the South Atlantic.
You Brutish really respect, admire and luuuuuv the Chileans................
So much that you want their whole Antarctic sector..............
How nice of you...............
Argentines are not excluded from the Falkland Islands. You are absolutely entitled to apply for a job and a work permit. You can visit whenever you like. And this will continue for as long as we have an air link with South America.
Sep 27th, 2011 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spreading lies again Malen. There is absolutely no bar to Argentines visiting the Falklands, and if they have a work permit they can go and live there too. Even British citizens without Falkland Island Status need a work permit to live in the Falklands...
Sep 27th, 2011 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so next year argentines there can celebrate 25 of may, the day of our independence with the governor
Sep 27th, 2011 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nice
Oooo, you are a little tease, aren't you, Mr. Think!
Sep 27th, 2011 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina and Chile made a much later claim on BAT.
The initial claim stands - once again - too late to matter,
and we kindly let your people stay and 'research',
being pleased when they practice search and rescue for emergencies.
Why would Nigel celebrate May 25th? is like CFK celebrating the Magna Carta. I don't get it :-))
Sep 27th, 2011 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When hell freezes over! I can't see a day ever coming when there'll be any public celebration of Argentine independence. A work permit doesn't entitle you to a party at Government House.
Sep 27th, 2011 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#7 Filippo “GO HOME PIRATES OR BE REBORN ARGENTINE, LIKE OUR ARGENTINE HERO TERRY PECK, HE IS A GREAT PATRIOT, A HERO OF ARGENTINA (I HOPE HE DOES NOT CHANGE HIS MIND HE IS NOW A MAJOR WEAPON IN OUR PROPAGANDA WAR, HE MAY BE DIS”
Sep 27th, 2011 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you mean the guy who hid out in the Camp for weeks and fought against Argentina alongside the Royal Marines. Yes, I'm sure he's a brilliant example of Argentine propaganda.
the 9 of julio independence day
Sep 27th, 2011 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 025 of may revolution
(40) Geoff Ward
Sep 27th, 2011 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“and we kindly let your people stay and 'research”
I say:
I'm sure the Chileans do fully appreciate your “kindness” and, in retribution, they will stand 100% behind the Self-determination rights of the 2.950 British squatters in Malvinas.
or the argentine squatters in the antarctic,
Sep 27th, 2011 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you know full well what argentina is up to, claiming [again] something that is not hers,
your claim by settlement wont work,
but the way your goverment has been brain washing most of the world latley, you might even get away with the claim to all of it, and throw south America into the bargin,
once a conman, always a conman, or in your case a piratess ?
“so next year argentines there can celebrate 25 of may, the day of our independence with the governor”
Sep 27th, 2011 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You Argies have pretty thick skins don't you... no, I doubt the Governor or anyone else on the Falkland Islands is going to be hosting any parties for Argies, not considering the recent history...
Think #45
Sep 27th, 2011 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this is an example of political maturity.
Chile (and Argentina) make ownership claims of land already in ownership. what does the UK do? Lodges an objection.
It does not stop (non-military) research for the better good of the world - especially meteorological recordings to assist the global warming analyses.
It does not even make a big issue of non-scientific irregular occupation in 'research' bases. Life is too short to break the Antarctic Treaty by sending in the squaddies to turf them out.
Chile and the UK have the maturity to recognise the mutual benefits of low-key aproaches to these matters, and they are able to compartmentalise policy to maximise personal advantage. To cut off all your options at the outset is the worst form of international diplomacy - as Argentina is finding out.
(48) GeoffWard
Sep 28th, 2011 - 04:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Paraphrasing a fatty German aviator…..:
Every time I hear a Briton mention “Political Maturity” I reach for my chuckle chuckle™.
We (and the rest of the developing world) have learned our lesson about your “Political Maturity” young chap.
Usually means 90% for Britain, 9% for the elites of the affected Countries, 1% for the rest.
You can stick your “Political Maturity” there where the sun doesn’t shine, lad.
I “think” you hit a nerve GeoffWard,:-)))))
Sep 28th, 2011 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yup, nice when you can gently poke the old guy into illogicality and his usual recourse when backed into a debating corner - invective.
Sep 28th, 2011 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
there where the sun doesn’t shine
Sep 28th, 2011 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0where does not the sun shine, kind sir, lol
CHILE IS THE SOURCE OF ALL OUR PROBLEMS.
Sep 30th, 2011 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0RECONQUEST IS THE ONLY OPTION!!!
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