MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
‘Why support Argentina financially when the country threatens Falklands?’
Why should the UK support Argentina financially when the country is acting against British interests particularly in issues such as the Falkland Islands, asks an article in the Mail-online. Read full article
Comments
Disclaimer & comment rules“Why support Argentina financially when the country threatens Falklands?” will finally someone do something against this government of cristina de kirchner? amazing!!! thank you, my dream and the dream of many more argentines will finally come true :) cristina, teléfono mamita, atendé :) creo que vas a tener que meterte en el mausoleo del néstor morocha, te van a doler hasta los p*ndej*s del locu :)
Sep 29th, 2011 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0“acting against british interests”... i'm sorry i was under the impression this was all about the kelpers interests....
Sep 29th, 2011 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 So the islanders arn't British in you books then???
Sep 29th, 2011 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Idiot, if your going to try and spin everything, then at least try to use your grey matter.
‘Why support Argentina financially when the country threatens Falklands?’ What a good question!
Sep 29th, 2011 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why have these global financial institutions decide to “support” economies with founds? Why is IMF “helping” Greece? Are they helping populations around the world or are they just giving money to banks and helping avoiding their fall? How curious: capitalism for the poor and communism + subsidy for the rich.
Being a mayor shareholder of public debts is not a hobby for those who want to practice charity. Being a shareholder is a way of domination and it brings great profits for banks.
Appart from this, it would be fine to analyze which are the british interests that Argentina is “threatening”, I don't think it is their deep interest for helping every small population around the globe like kelpers mantain their “autodetermination”. I think it has more to do with keeping their warrior feets on this side of the world, at a very strategic geographical place like the Malvinas.
The british speech and their inventions about sovereignty (excuses to mantain colonialism) are getting less and less serious in front of the rest of the world's eyes...
This is the funniest part: “attempt to murder dissidents or promoting terrorists or radicalizing children through anti-Semitic textbooks and television programs.” What??? Where has the professionalism of journalism been left in here?! Can somebody tell me where is the attempt to murder dissidents or promoting terrorism? For god sake give me some proofs. We are just implementing a new electoral law in here where candidates can have free access to the mass media, FOR FREE. The situation has never been more DEMOCRATIC in Argentina. Dissidents have the monopolic mass media companies on their side, they can even say thousands of lies about the Government and they will be LIVE for the whole country.
And radicalizing kids?? Radical is this anti-kirchner position, that avoids debating ideas and presents a black and white scene.
‘Why support a handful of Brits in Malvinas financially when the islands belong to Argentina?’
Sep 29th, 2011 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree!
A Brit once said:
“Is the 60 million strong British bulldog really being wagged by its miniscule Falklands tail- or more precisely a hair on the tail, given that there are only 3,140 Falklanders?
@ 4 “Radical is this anti-kirchner position” is it doggy style? lol
Sep 29th, 2011 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0calm down or your hemorrhoids will feel the pain, again. this is out of your control, camporita fermin, so suck it :)
IN UK THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND CAN NOT COMPETE WITH UNIFIED DOGMA REPEATED BY ENTIRE POPULATION!!!
Sep 29th, 2011 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0THEY GIVE MONEY TO US, WHILE WE INTIMIDATE THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE WEAK!!! THE WORLDS OLDEST DEMOCRACY A WEAK SEED IN THE WORLDS CORN FIELD!!!
certainly that the British are not stupid...
Sep 29th, 2011 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0the Falklands are not /never feed for them ,
even if a bit oil will found or won't ....
BUT
they need Argentinea/Brasilea commodities. !!
Please tell me honestly, why would Britain allow large countries, such as Australia, South Africa, Canada, India etc, with massive economies, cheap labour and high value natural resources , become independent, but keep the Falklands under colonialisation. The Argentines say it themselves that they would never live there as its windswept and dire etc etc. So why what real and significant advantages does the Falklands have over the countries I have listed above. The answer is none! But it is just another illogical, irrelevant and incorrect statement that Argentines peddle to try and support their invalid claim over the Falklands. The statements you Argentines make are truly laughable. There are so many holes in your arguements, its quite astonishing.
Sep 29th, 2011 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0#9 Don't expect logic to make a difference.
Sep 29th, 2011 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just to remind you, I been talking about this for the last month...
Sep 29th, 2011 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very soon the USA will gather enough voting shares at World Bank, IDB etc to sink Argentina's future loans. They're already more than 1/2 way there with the USA and UK shares alone!
CFK has planned on getting U$2B in loans from them next year to meet the budget. I think she is going to have a problem.
The non-payment of the defaulted Paris Club debt of 9B+ will get them kicked out of G20 and maybe barred from participation in many other financial organizations.
They pissed off the wrong country this time. The US State and Treasury Depts are both against them at the same time. It used to be one or the other was trying to help them but not any longer. They want to teach Arg a lesson she won't soon forget.
The unauthorized boarding of a USA military jet may sink your country next year. Timmerman should have kept a low profile instead of acting like a monkey with a gun.
Payback is a b*tch!
No doubt
Sep 29th, 2011 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 04 Fermin (#) ANALYSIS Excellency, congratulations
Sep 29th, 2011 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is evident that for the UK, the conflict has gotten out of hand. Now this on the agenda of world public opinion as is internalized and becomes aware of the Falklands conflict, many countries are sympathetic to the claim of sovereignty.
“.. Argentina is just another example of a widespread phenomenon poorly invested foreign aid in countries that have adequate funding, attempted murder of dissidents or the promotion of terrorists or radicalize children through anti-Semitic books text and TV shows. ”
Pathetic and sad commentary. A larger sample than when the arguments just shows the true face of colonialism and imperialism of the United Kingdom.
1 xbarilox
Finally someone do something against this government of Cristina Kirchner? awesome! thanks, my dream and the dream of many Argentines finally come true.
Are you British? Even the English people think so, does tell me why?
Sorry to disappoint you but over 50% of Argentines do not think like you, I'm going back to vote for Cristina Kirchner and I think they'll do so many more, because it has restored dignity to many Argentines.
The great virtue that can display the model developed country since 2003 is to sustain a steady economic and social growth that reaches all alike.
The universal child allowance in addition to address situations that have not been able to solve, by years of unemployment has also reduced the degree of exploitation that could be achieved by the desperation of the people
Today Argentina has a domestic market growing very strong and powerful it grows, consumes and develops overall export growth in a long time the country had no
Externally she has managed to grow global awareness of the conflict. Latin America supports the claims, both as MERCOSUR and UNASUR United Nations and now the G-77.
It is a way of dealing together with economic and military aggression of the United States and Britain in 500 years of history.
Thank you very much.
Raul, you are either a paid cfk shill, don't really live in Argentina or just plain stupid. In the last decade the peso has gone from 1:1 to 5:1 ( next year) that is how you have shown “growth” all of the INDEC stats are a lie and your country is on the brink of disaster brought to you by peronism/cronyism.
Sep 29th, 2011 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you not understand all of the hard currency and real assets have been stolen by the Ks to redistribute to themselves and the poor? Just one example is Anses it has no assets now just worthless Arg bonds that no one will buy unless they are forced to.
It is too bad 50% of the ARG population is as dumb as you are because in a few years you will be crying for 2001 again because it's going to look like the good old days.
14 yankeeboy
Sep 29th, 2011 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to disappoint you, but I live in Argentina, I am Argentine, I am a Peronist, and proud to be Argentine.
Yet this does not prevent me from seeing reality with critical thinking and try to judge without preconceptions positive and negative Cristina Kirchner and its context.
Taking stock of his administration, from my point of view is highly positive.
Obviously not everything is rosy, as the case of INDEC and Anses. We still have much to grow and have an advanced Institutionalism, it is on track but the positive is that Cristina has tried to be about a good a good Peronist Argentina and applying the principles of social justice, political sovereignty and economic independence.
thank you very much
@10, im not trying to make a difference, i just quite enjoy their illogical responses to logical questions.
Sep 29th, 2011 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 13
Sep 29th, 2011 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“1 xbarilox
Are you British? Even the English people think so, does tell me why?” argumentum ad britanicum? hahaha is that all you got Raúl? :)
“Sorry to disappoint you but over 50% of Argentines do not think like you, I'm going back to vote for Cristina Kirchner and I think they'll do so many more, because it has restored dignity to many Argentines.” millions of flies eat poop, but that doesn't mean poop is good :) she has restored what? dignity? hahaha living on other people's money? teaching their children not to work? telling them that they're so stupid as to why they need to rely on other people's money to make a living. is that dignity for you? dignity! hahaha go take some rest you old man, you need it.
#15 I am not disappointed I really don't care but I think you must be really dumb if you think a brief 10-12 year period means your path to prosperity is assured.
Sep 29th, 2011 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ALL THE HARD CURRENCY HAS LEFT THE COUNTRY, SOY IS FALLING AND BRAZIL ISN'T BUYING CARS, now what?
BTW how much dignity does it cost to buy food in Argentina? I hope you can eat dignity.
perhaps some of you argies, perhaps dont understand the saying,
Sep 29th, 2011 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dont bite the hand that feeds you, now we all know that you are not dependent on the west .
but concidering that they give you, more then you give them, its not wise to keep insulting them, you goddess insults them and the british, to distract from her own coruption, to hide and tell lies to her own people,
but sadly forgets that great britain and others, do not always need military to bring a puppy to heel,in this way, the UK can do lots of harm to argentina, but your goddess did not think of this, [did she] all your leader will do is get the UK to squeeze argentina, long before she needs to employ her military,remember the UK invests more in argentina than you invest in the uk, the same goes for the Americans,
perhaps you should remember that the UK could pull the rug under you at any time, a shame then your dispute was not against the americans or the french, the rug would have neen pulled years ago.
How delusional some of the old empire tabloids are and the poor brainwashed fools who read them.
Sep 29th, 2011 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Daily Mail is a rag utilized by the tories to brainwash mostly lower class women and their hubbies who cant read anything else.Its a bit like Cronica.
As to the harm England could do to Argentina what a load of bolloney.England cant do a thing to hurt a country growing at 8% a year whose car production and sales will pass out Spain in 2011 and that is af act and nothing to with INDEC.With these trends in three years Argentine car production will pass out England and its near colonies.
The real reason for the shrill propaganda piece in Pravda is the elite is getting increasingly worried about the reaction to Argentinas efforts in internationalizing the Malvinas conflict.The bad press in the Americas is doing a lot of harm to English interests all over the continent hence the diplomatic surge initiated by Cameron.
The English would love Argentina to become more agressive but if Argentina consistently keep the pressure up in all international forums the Oligarchs in London will be ever more shrill in their mouthpieces.
#20
Sep 29th, 2011 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil just devalued their currency 8% they aren't buying a lot of cars right now and their economy is slowing down pretty quickly. Since they are the only ones buying Arg cars I wouldn't count on that trend line continuing to go up. Car exports have already slowed and it is only going to get worse.
m of fi
Sep 29th, 2011 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why would Britain -“ALLOW”- large countries, such as Australia, South Africa, Canada, India etc, with massive economies, cheap labour and high value natural resources , “BECOME INDEPENDENT”
ALLOW?
Because of those two favorite words of the “islanders”.
The ones that just seemingly have to be uttered to invalidate all other points.
Self. Determination.
They weren't “allowed”. They CHOSE not to be dictated to by strangers thousands of miles away.
To say NO - f k off. You dont own us. YOU dont grant US our own human RIGHT to INDEPENDENCE.
(as well as english inability to maintain a foreign government in those places either because of war, non compliance, public oppssition, see boer war, gandhi, us independence, ireland, kenya etc etc etc etc etc)
And if Argentina does choose to build a wall on their side of the islands then it will be through argentinian self determination. not from being “allowed”.
So just in the same way argentina gets no say in the falklands, be prepared for the old empire to get no say in argentina re the falklands.
Do your worst. (Though i doubt the uk public even want to) Argentina will choose for itself and come through any consequence that can be thrown. Like so many other countries
Destiny
Sep 29th, 2011 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one day you will be called apon to do a great service for your empress,
when that day comes, remember to tell her, it was your destiny ..
pick up the loo roll turn your head and pray,
Ha. Oh,the ironing is delicious. :)
Sep 30th, 2011 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll bet only one of us bows down to an empress.
Personally I'd never pay to be reigned over by an old German woman. But hey if that's your thing.
Stock up on loo roll. You'll need it .... subject.
you do the ironing then
Sep 30th, 2011 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we dont have an emporess
she may be of german origin, but she is as british, as you are argentine.
toilet rolls , nice to stock up, better than hard paper lol.
Thats right - no emporess as no more empire, although some still seem to think there is.
Sep 30th, 2011 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats right - shes as british as i am argentine lolz.
(i only use the guardian btw)
Yankeeboy you havent a clue and to think you criticize indec.Brasilian car sales for the first eigth months of 2011 are at an all time record 1.733 million 5,6% up on the same period in 2010 which was a record.You are liveing in a little self delusional coccoon tea boy 2
Oct 01st, 2011 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps it was your destiny to read the guardian,
Oct 01st, 2011 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i prefer the sun, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
try the paper version instead of the online copy.
Oct 01st, 2011 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0doing that to your monitor is very unhygienic
i read the paper version,, plus the mirror,
Oct 02nd, 2011 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but i do find the crossword in the times, to easy
“I'll bet only one of us bows down to an empress.
Oct 03rd, 2011 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Personally I'd never pay to be reigned over by an old German woman. But hey if that's your thing.”
1. There is no empress, shes just a queen.
2. No-one bows before the queen anymore.
3. The royalty make more than they cost us - We don't “pay” for them at all.
4. Shes english.
My ancestors were from ireland(both sides). However while i have an irish second name i've never been to ireland...I guess by your logic im irish?
@22
Oct 04th, 2011 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0“They weren't “allowed”. They CHOSE not to be dictated to by strangers thousands of miles away. ”
In the case of Australia and Canada at least, and several other Commonwealth countries, they were “allowed”, without any wars being fought or relations being poisoned. Nice try though.
“keeping their warrior feets on this side of the world, at a very strategic geographical place like the Malvinas”
Oct 04th, 2011 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dream on femin, dream on dear boy, the Falklands hold no strategic value whatsoever except as a handy jumping point for the BAS to supply their bases in Antarctica, this is not the 19th century any-more we don't need coaling and fresh water stations to supply our steam powered merchant and naval vessels as we don't have any idiot, and don't try the “control of the Magellan straights” bull crap since 99.9% of all trade routes coming in and out of South America go via the Panama canal, oh yes and final but not least Cape horn has a far more strategic value than the Falklands, numbnutts!
Sheeze, armchair Malvinist generals funny as hell!
Is is, of course, foolish to support the K Government in any way. It is like trying to look for inspiration in the policies of Mr. Chamberlain! Now let's be clear that K stands for Kafka, if you know what I mean! Such rotten K Government should be outlawed from every civilised international institution.
Oct 05th, 2011 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
Outlawed by whom Philippe dont you like people voteing in their leaders?
Oct 05th, 2011 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
If you have a Facebook account, become a fan and comment on our Facebook Page!