MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
“UK will protect the Falklands as long as they want to remain British” says Defence chief Fox
Britain will protect the people of the disputed Falkland Islands for as long as they want to remain British citizens, Defence Secretary Liam Fox said on Wednesday speaking at the annual conference of the ruling Conservative Party. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWe all know that the islands are british, don't publish this silly articles again, it's boring to listen and to read these british parrots and the argentine parrots.
Oct 05th, 2011 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“But one thing is unchanged: for as long as the people of the Falklands choose to, they are, and always will be, British,”
Oct 05th, 2011 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A quote for CFK to chew on......now go and look after your own people and grow up and start talking to the people of the Falklands in an adult manner and start co-operating like a true mature nation. Argentina has a great deal to gain.
Liam Fox is right “This is not the 1980s”
Oct 05th, 2011 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK is broke now and the World supports Argentina diplomacy and peaceful means to recover the islands.
Liam Fox ...!!
Oct 05th, 2011 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your book is foxed
OR/AND
your beer is foxed
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Let's look at some historic circus that :
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1776 ... British expelled from the region
1806 ... British attack on to to invade La Plata
1807 ... British are expelled from this region again
1811/15 ... Spaniards withdrawn from the region
1816 ... Argentina declares independence
1831 ... British uses US warships to destroy the islands
1833 ... British invade the islands to revenge of 1806/07
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British use US warships? Get a fcuking life.
Oct 05th, 2011 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 Marcos Alejandro
Oct 05th, 2011 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wake Up! No one, NO ONE supports Argentine. A few countries hour you because they are bored with the constant droning mantra repeated ad infinitum by your insane fascist politicians. A Brazilian politician who I know says Brazil is keen to stay on good relations with Argentine ands goes along with what you want on the Falklands merely to keep you on side. There is however, a limit to their support he says because it is against Brazil national interests.
UK has been a “” paper tiger “” at all in the military history anyway ..!!
Oct 05th, 2011 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK has not done a nything alone in the history..as we see in
Iraq ...Afghanistan....today...!!
UK had utmost inept especially in military operations in the history..!!
for instance that ;
while H.Cortes seize the whole Mexico by just 750 soldiers..
the British had nothing/fiasco --1806/07 by many thousands soldiers..!!
why ?..the answer is very simple that they can't do it alone....!!
BUT
Oct 05th, 2011 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as you know that the military operations is not only tool to
invade any area...
there are many other tools as like banks( railroad.... project finance..)
corporations....conspiracy experts secret services...etc
we know the British have not been succesful in military operations,
we know the British have partially succeesful in finance tools,
we know the British have not succeeful by using firms,
we know the British partially/sometimes succesful by using
conspiracy competents secret services........ !!
Yep the great British, Conspiracy theory
Oct 05th, 2011 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According you you argie bloggers on here,
We cant do nothing by ourselves, we always need help
And we use others to fight our battles, and as geo, points out, we cant even produce a great company,
HOW DID YOU CLEAVER IDIOTS WORK IT OUT, WE THOUGHT YOU WOULD NEVER FIND THE TRUTH OUT,
Yep you are right of course, we had no empire it was a myth,
We never took part in any world wars, this was all spannish and argentine troops,
We only got the Falklands back with the help of the mighty US NAVY,
Russian planes and troops from china, storming the ramparts,
The companies like BP Virgin / Royal Dutch Shell/ GlaxoSmithKline/ Vodafone Group
Rio Tinto Group / BT Group/ Aviva/ all foreing owned, //how did we ever think, that we could possably hoodwink the great argentine bloggers,
Nothing gets past you guys does it, what would the world do without Argentina,
WAKE UP and thank god it was just a dream, just like argentina . ??
.
**9 brit
Oct 05th, 2011 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0first of all i am not Argentine ...!!
if i were a british i would blush to say those you said firms.. !!
these are all speculative based drudgery firms not serious...!!
you didn't tell about your banks why ?? then may i tell them ...
UK based all banks have claims/borrowing merely(!) from EU zone
is equal to ...1,9 trillion US $ / March/2011...
here is the some details are ...from which EU countries ;
Greece ... 4 billions US $
Ireland ... 170 billions US $
Italy ... 50 billions US $
Netherland ... 105 billions US $
Portugal ... 6 billions US $
Belgium ... 36 billions US $
Austria ... 20 billions US$
France ... 295 billions $
Sweden ... 60 billions $
Swiss ... 209 billons US $
Spain ... 432 billions $
Austria ... 114 billions US 4
................ and some others.....
note : they even borrowed from Chile is ...58 millions US$... !!
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now that !!
do you have a challenging chance to the world..?? ......NO ...!!
correction :
Oct 05th, 2011 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Australia ... 114 billons US $
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Germany ... 520 billions US $
BUT
they forgot to borrow from Argentina while cash rich contry !!
your reply would only hold water if argentina was debt free
Oct 05th, 2011 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0does argentina owe money, does argentine banks lend / borrow /invest.
you seem to imply that only the countries above owe money,
perhaps one day, even you will understand, that ALL banks and countries, borrow / lend and invest money,
some even get into debt,///not all the companies above are into drugs, ditto .
correction :
Oct 05th, 2011 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Australia ... 114 billons US $
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Germany ... 520 billions US $
BUT
they forgot to borrow from Argentina while cash rich contry !!
@ 9 swallow your pills lady and calm down.
Oct 05th, 2011 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0** 12 brit
Oct 05th, 2011 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you say there are interconnecting borrowing between countries
BUT
their balances are important as some belowed are ;
UK banks borrowing from Germany ... 520 billions US $
Germany banks borrowing from UK banks ... 186 billions US $
UK banks borrowing from Spain ... 432 billions US $
Spain banks borrowing from UK ... 107 billions US $
UK banks borrowing from Ireland ... 170 billions US $
Ireland banks borrowing from UK ... 154 billions US $
UK banks borrowing from Sweden ... 60 billions US $
Sweden banks borrowing from UK ... 21 billions US $
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14 xbarilox , for a femal your not very clever, you only need to calm down if your argentine,. .lol.
Oct 05th, 2011 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0geo, you still miss the point, you are giving answers to questions not asked,
we all know britian is in debt, we all know our banks are in debt,
the question was,
is argentine in debt, does she owe money,
if so, your attack on the UK debt is rather pointless is it not .
just like xbox[v] playstaion
** 16 brit
Oct 05th, 2011 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina diminished it's own especially foreign debts since year 2002,
Argentine banks have almost no foreign debts/not important ...!!
here is the some numbers from which countries are ;
Spain ... 16 billions US $
USA ... 6 billions US $
Brasil ... 3 billions US $
France ... 2,5 billion US $
Germany ... 1,8 billion US $
Italy ... 550 millions US $
Portugal ... 300 millions US $
and some others.... no borrowing from UK banks ...!!
Well
Oct 05th, 2011 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geo
that’s an awful lot of money, that’s all I can say .
keep up the good work,
“we know the British have not been succesful in military operations”
Oct 05th, 2011 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geo. The British have been involved in more wars than any other nation currently in the world(Except possibly france) and have only lost very few of them(Also, like France). I'm not sure where you get your information from.
“UK has not done a nything alone in the history”
Again not true. You list three wars out of the almost thousand we've been in.
“we know the British partially/sometimes succesful by using
conspiracy competents secret services”
No, you know. Because you're a conspiracy theorist nut job. Us normal people don't believe in the rubbish you come out with. Aside from that fact that EVERY single time i've checked out your “Statistics” They've been completely incorrect.
** 19 zet
Oct 05th, 2011 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0unfortunately #19 is not an answer which has any argument !!
-- tell us any wars that made by British alone ...
please don't say the battles have below 50.000 soldiers ones ..
-- if any secret service member here,maybe he/she can tell us
any British tricky conspiracy acts..
-- do write correct ones of statistics..
for example that :
UK banks borrowings from France .......................... !
France banks borrowings from UK ........................ !
GEO(graphy thinks that the USA were used by Britain to expel the settlers in 1831 - now that's really funny.
Oct 05th, 2011 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Duncan's Report anyone ?
“ ... 1832 – In February, the 7 prisoners, 13 slaves and some 26 settlers are removed from the Islands by the Americans, leaving behind 24 of Vernet’s employees.
On February 3rd, Commander Duncan reports –
” … I arrived here yesterday from the Falklands Islands and have now the honor to enclose duplicates of my communication to the Department of the 2nd Dec. 1831 – in Relation to the Capture of some of our fishing Vessels at and about those Islands. – In conformity to my intentions I proceeded to Berkeley Sounds, East Falklands, in order to ascertain the facts in connexion with these proceedings and for the purpose of af–fording the proper protection to our Citizens and Commerce,and particularly to protect the American Fisheries in the Southern Ocean. – Upon my arrival in Berkeley Sound East Falkland, – I investigated the matters in question and finding them to be of the most inquisitous and illegal character, – I determined to break up and disperse this band of pirates, many of whom had been sent from the prisons of Buenos Ayres and Monte Video, and were thus let lose to prey upon a peaceable and industrious part of our community under the direction of Louis Vernet and Mathew Brisbane. – ...”
http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/1823-1833/
Even then some of the settlers remained, and NO, the settlement was NOT razed to the ground.
Why does Argentina stick to lies that are so easily disproved ??
Morning all :-)
Good morning Rotted, another member of the colonial government resigned or was forced out. This time is the“Chief Executive” Barbados man.
Oct 05th, 2011 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep your Lordwhatever 1955 updated!
I found an interesting story on MercoPress that STRANGELY none of you fascist Argentines are commenting on, it's the truth behind your 1982 war crimes -
Oct 06th, 2011 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2011/10/05/how-the-argentine-military-to-save-a-collapsing-regime-planned-the-malvinas-invasion-war
Anti-Fascist
Oct 06th, 2011 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING THE TRUTH. ONLY IN PROPAGANDA.
PIRATS I HATE YOU SO MUCH RIGHT NOW!!!!!!
I DO NOT LIKE ANY OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE OWN YOUR LAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WILL SAY THIS ONLY ONCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Liam Fox also addressed the state of our armed forces - ” … even after the MoD’s contribution to deficit reduction we still have the fourth largest defence budget in the world and we will continue to be one of only five countries (out of 28) in NATO meeting our 2% GDP obligation. By the end of the decade the Royal Navy will not only have its world-beating Type-45 destroyers and seven cutting edge Astute Class submarines but a step change in carrier capability that will be in service for 50 years. The RAF will have the Joint Strike Fighter and battle tested Typhoons and our aging Hercules and Tri-Star fleets will be replaced by the state of the art A400M and Voyager transport and tanker aircraft. We are spending over £1 billion for new Chinook helicopters. Unlike the previous government, we are actually funding and delivering on the promise of more helicopters for our troops…. “
Oct 06th, 2011 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0And told Spain to stay out of Gibraltar :-)
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/falklands-defence-guarantee/
Geo- usual Arg fantasy dreams - you cannot tell the difference from a battle or a skirmish and a WAR can you! Britain was at war with France for many years in the Naploeonic War and for quite a few of those years also with Spain - in that time Britain attacked SPANISH territory called Buenos Aires twice (once was even unauthorized by the local Brit Commander who was dealt with after). They were battles NOT wars! Please learn as follows- WARS usually consist of several battles and skirmishes - the winner of a WAR is the one who wins the last battle(s) - now tell me who finally won the last Battle of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815? - a clue - a place called Waterloo and a bloke called Wellington.
Oct 06th, 2011 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 01833- HISTORICAL FACTS in Buenos Aires Records Office will tell you that NO civilans were forced out of the Islands - only the actual soldiers were told to leave.
As for UK being totally broke- please tell me then WHY does UK keep its AAA credit rating? Answer - because it is regarded as a SAFE place to invest- it has a Govt that has PUT measures in place to bring down the level of borrowing and debt . Not just talking about them like the rest of Europe and USA and many others!
Do please learn to understand news etc before you splutter forth - you migh then learn not to look a plonker!
Is the C24 for the chop ??
Oct 06th, 2011 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 040% reduction in its budget proposed.
Well, shouldn't matter, after all they don't actually achieve anything :-)
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/decolonization-cuts/
24 Filippo (#)
Oct 06th, 2011 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I WILL SAY THIS ONLY ONCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Is that a promise?? Are you going to StFU now??
Good.........
@3MarcosA,
Oct 06th, 2011 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0My dear fellow, you cannot“recover”something that you never owned in the first place.
lf you want OUR lslands then you will just have to invade(again?).
So sorry for you. You don't understand, do you?
C24 will have to come up with something
Oct 06th, 2011 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or be disbanded, it seems to concentrate on two specific countries
Gibraltar and the Falklands,
Who neither want them, or need them,
Just like Argentina, C24 also seems obsest,
Disband them , no one will even notice were they are .
29 lsolde
Oct 06th, 2011 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't like Chinese milk?
Dear Isolde, no need to invade our own country, very soon UK will beg us to take them back.
Today the Bank of England launched an extra £75bn of 'money printing' to help ease severe strains in bank funding.
I hope the wishes of #31 never come true, because that day you'll say goodbye to your piece of heaven on earth falklanders, the islands will be transformed into a pile of sh*t. Like I told you before, if you see one #31 trying to reach for the islands, shoot him before it's too late.
Oct 06th, 2011 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://twitter.com/#!/mmlagoscc/statuses/26140227398
Oct 06th, 2011 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31
Oct 06th, 2011 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands is self-sufficient, with the exception of defence. Britain spend approximately £70m on maintaing the Falklands defence (0.5% of the entire UK Defence Budget). It is hardly enough to bankrupt Britain, the 6th biggest economy in the world.
But you have to love Argentina's optimism!
@24 Filippo
Oct 06th, 2011 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WHY DON'T YOU F*** OFF AND DIE?
** 20 zet ...**26 islandy
Oct 06th, 2011 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we will be waiting you to tell us which wars won by British alone (!)
by at least 50.000 soldiers have.......!!??
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** 20 zet
UK banks borrowings from France ... 312 billions US $
France banks borrowings from UK ... 280 billions US $
31 total lies, you said we were brok, make ya mind up.
Oct 06th, 2011 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 036, dont be silly, who counts,
ready, the
civil war , and more than 50,000
Geo - a recent military intervention that Britain embarked on alone was in Sierra Leone. You will find that the people of that country love us for how we freed them of limb chopping rebels!
Oct 06th, 2011 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But i suppose such action to protect democracy and civil rights doesnt count?
38 Beef
Oct 07th, 2011 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS! THESE HAVE NEVER BEEN A PART OF ARGENTINE SOCIETY! DISAEPARING PEOPLE AND STAMPING ON FREEDOM IS THE WAY TO RULE PEOPLE. ANY OTHER WAY IN NOT SOUTH AMERICAN!!!!!!!
GO TO HELL PIRATES. WE WILL DIG UP EVERY LINK WE CAN FIND TO THROW DIRT AT YOU, WE HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO. YOU ARE SITTING ON OUR PROPERTY! KEEP FARMING, WE WILL SOON HAVE OUR LAND BACK! LIKE MUGABE FAMILY HAVE YOUR BRITISH FARMS, WE WILL TAKE YOUR LAND TOO.
I HATE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@39Flippers,
Oct 07th, 2011 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0One shouldn't laugh at the afflicted but, dear Flippers you are humourous. Please don't stop.
Encore encore!
Coming from an Argie, this is funny :-)
Oct 07th, 2011 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ .. Argentina regretted that the Government of the United Kingdom sought to distort historical facts in order to conceal its usurpation of Argentine territory in 1833. That invasion had been the subject of repeated protests since the moment it had begun. Such misrepresentation showed that the United Kingdom was not certain of its rights on the subject of the Malvinas Islands...”
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/uk-accused-of-distorting-history-at-the-un/
absolutely right!!
Oct 07th, 2011 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0you usurpated the 2 of january of 1833
15 of january of 1833 Minister Maza claimed to the english Minister Philip Gore for the illegal usurpation. And then continues.
Emphasis in that it is a particular and special case in the article
www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2011/gaspd481.doc.htm
Mad'un - Buenos Aires invaded in 1832, and we threw 'em out.
Oct 07th, 2011 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina invaded in 1982, and we threw 'em out.
Fancy going for the hat trick ??
Self determination is for all. says so - ” 1966 - December 16th, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights is adopted by General Assembly Resolution 2200A (XXI)
” Article 1
1. All peoples have the right of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.
2. All peoples may, for their own ends, freely dispose of their natural wealth and resources without prejudice to any obligations arising out of international economic co-operation, based upon the principle of mutual benefit, and international law. In no case may a people be deprived of its own means of subsistence.
3. The States Parties to the present Covenant, including those having responsibility for the administration of Non-Self-Governing and Trust Territories, shall promote the realization of the right of self-determination, and shall respect that right, in conformity with the provisions of the Charter of the United Nations.”
[ This Covenant came into force on March 23rd, 1976.] ...”
http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/1960-1966/
Not a special case at all :-)
Your pink blog is all distortion Lord tonton
Oct 07th, 2011 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arg invade in 1832.who??? if you werent there....we have been through spain our colonizators and then since 1820 when Jewett was sent by our war and navy minister to establish an argentine colony, and in 1829 was created the political and militar commandance in charge of Vernet and made by decree, absolutelly legal
No one sent Jewitt, thats a fantasy and a distortion of history. Specifically his orders were to interdict Spanish ships and he spent 8 months sailing around on pirate duty before he ended up in the Falklands to repair storm damage.
Oct 07th, 2011 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He was not there to establish a colony, the only colony established in that period was Vernet's and the all important fact you seem to forget is that Vernet sought British permission for that.
The proclamation of 1829 you refer to, stemmed from Vernet's request for a warship to support him (he also asked the British by the way), which they couldn't supply, so they make a grand proclamation and tell him to do it himself.
And it wasn't legal as no one recognised it, it was rejected by both the British and American consulates.
you distorting history are so funny
Oct 07th, 2011 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the 27 of october of 1820 arrived to soledad port in heroína ship, the ex northamerican coronel Jewett, that since 1815 was at service of the United provinces. He was following ordes of Matías Irigiyen , minister of war and navy of our country. He established a colony occupyied of fishing and sheeps.
Vernet was designed by decree by the government delegated Martín Rodriguez to get in charge of the political and militar commandance of the isles. the decree established the historical and legal continuity of soberan rights. Vernet there constructed houses, made a topographic research, made a fish and meat factory(saladero), etc.
It was legal, the decree exists.
Arg didnt invade in 1832 tonton. we already were there. and we made a claim in 1833 to Philip Gore because of your intrusion.
1820 - October 27th, the Heroina arrives in the Falkland Islands after losing the Carlota in a storm. Jewett’s ship is in a poor condition, with more than 80 of the 200 crew sick or dead from scurvy.
Oct 07th, 2011 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On November 6th, Colonel Jewett suddenly announces that he has a commission from the United Provinces to take possession of the Islands. He gives a letter containing the claim to James Weddell, a British explorer/seal hunter on the brig Jane -
1821 - At the beginning of February, Colonel Jewett prepares a 13 page report about his journey for the authorities in Buenos Aires, but makes no mention of his claim of the previous November. He also asks for a relief as he is also now sick with scurvy.
Jewett seizes a U.S. ship, the Rampart, on the excuse that it had a cargo bound for Spain. This further act of piracy causes another diplomatic incident.
In March, Captain Guillermo Roberto Mason replaces Jewett as commander of the Heroina which departs in April.
[Some texts claim that Jewett and Mason were Governors of the Falkland Islands in 1820/21 however there is no record of any such title being officially given to either man. There is also no evidence of Jewett or Mason attempting to exert any authority over the numerous whalers and sealers that used the islands as a safe harbour. No settlement or marks of sovereignty were left behind. ] ...”
No colony in 1821. No colony in 1822. Failed attempt at settlement in 1823 - and Vernet had British permission.
You need a new history book Mad'un :-)
http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/1772-1822/
http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/1772-1822/
An armed ship to take an island that you knew the British already claimed! That is a good definition of an 'invasion“
” .. September 23rd, a garrison of soldiers under the command of a new ‘Governor’, Major Juan Esteban Mestivie sets sail from Buenos Aires in the Sarandi, captained by Lieutenant-Colonel José María Pinedo and crewed by a majority of British sailors. ”
:-))
jajajaaj lord tonton
Oct 07th, 2011 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your history distortion sucks....... for me that is not an invasion, its your invention
but if the sovereignity is in dispute at international organizations since so long, it is because it is recoignized the dispute ...the article says it not me.
Mr. Fox: Just one word: BRAVISSIMO!
Oct 07th, 2011 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
Distortion?
Oct 07th, 2011 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or perspective ?
Argentina/United Provinces/Buenos Aires had NO Government or officialdom on the Islands before General Juan Lavalle gave Vernet the eroneous title of 'Civil and Military commandant of Puerto Luis’ (only Puerto Luis ?).
Britain immediately objected.
Therefore any action after was an attempt by Lavalle to claim what he knew was already claimed. And then Rosas came along and declared everything that Lavalle had done 'illegal'.
No distortion - the truth will out :-)
http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/1823-1833/
go to the UN with your blog Lord ton ton
Oct 07th, 2011 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0prove all you say
if it is that way prove it
The evidence is easy enough to find.
Oct 07th, 2011 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The question is - can you, or any of your countrymen, prove me wrong ?
Afraid of the truth Mad'un ??
http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/
Matías Irigiyen occupied the post from 11 February to 18 February 1820. How many Governments were there in 1820?
Oct 07th, 2011 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you want to tell me when Jewitt sailed?
Jewitt established a colony of fishing and sheeps?
Who did any fishing?
And do you think many sheeps would have survived an 8 month voyage - the British introduced sheep not the Argentines.
Which planet do you inhabit, the twilight zone?
lord ton ton
Oct 07th, 2011 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no te tengo miedooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
in the UN they are calling you
tell them all this invention imaginative and ditortive history so we can all laugh a little
They already know - why do you think that the Islands are still British :-)
Oct 07th, 2011 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and why are they calling you for negotations over the sovereignty?
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They aren't.
Oct 07th, 2011 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0# 54 lol malen, Lord Tonton...funny blog Redhole write with the islanders money.....they know that you are cheating them ??
Oct 07th, 2011 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0come on RedHole.....you,re a joke my friend, and btw The Fourth Comitte this year (like allways) is strong supporting Argentinenan position and calling again to UK to resume negotiations ......this is the 3o time !!!! UK like allways doesnt obey International calls.
www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2011/gaspd481.doc.htm
.....write it in lord tonton LOL :)
**26 islandy
Oct 07th, 2011 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you know spanish ?!....
title : calificadoras rebajaron nota a 22 bancos europeos
http://www.ambito.com/noticia.as?id=605644
Show us a document from any time between 1500-1982 that states in black and white
Oct 07th, 2011 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That the islands are argentine,
Or I /we/give these islands to Argentina,
These islands belong to Argentina,
If you can produce this document, go to the ICJ and take the Falklands back and sod off,
or, if you CANNOT produce a document to the above, then this clearly states that you not only have no claim, but proves that you have been trying to steal the land from the island people, by theft/skull dupery, fraud, con tricks, and indoctrinated brain washing,
Let the world see you for what you really are,
So please, produce the documents, or be quiet,
Thanks
originally posted by Mr Destiny....
Oct 07th, 2011 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 01833.......Argentina......do you have a flag ? do you have document ??
NO COUNTRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYeFcSq7Mxg
@51 malen,
Oct 07th, 2011 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lf you are SO SURE that you are right & you DO have the documents to PROVE that you are right, then.........................what are you waiting for?
Go immeadiately to the ICJ.
1) Are you frightened of their decision?
2) Are you like sr Think & need the court to be stacked with your amigos before you'll make a move?
3) Don't you trust the ICJ?
4) lf the court finds against you, will you accept it's decision & drop your ridiculous claims? BUT...................
5) lf the court finds that you are right, will you still expect us to surrender ourselves to your tender mercies?
Can we have a rational answer to these questions without the personal insults please?
Eagerly awaiting your prompt replies. Regards, l.
SoFa - you believe that you have the support of the Fourth Committee? Well, they're having a long weekend and will sit again Monday when they intend to conclude the decolonization debate. So unless you get something on Monday, then it's all over till next year.
Oct 07th, 2011 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See you Monday :-)
#62 Mrs I, your words......
Oct 08th, 2011 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can we have a rational answer ..? :-O
without the personal insults ...? :-O
please ..? :-O
Eagerly awaiting your prompt replies...?? :-O
Regards...? :-O
Isolde......that´s you really or someone else ?? do you feel all right ?? :-O
Glad to see that things area changing in Malvinas / Falklands, bless.
:)
#63...yes Red, let´see.
Geo- only mentioned 2 UK banks i think and we all know they were both in financial difficulty 2 years ago - that why the Uk Govt is now a major shareholder in both .
Oct 08th, 2011 - 04:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@64so_far,
Oct 08th, 2011 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well malen hasn't answered & you talk in riddles & still don't offer any answers either.
Maybe she hasn't seen it yet, so l will ask you or any of your countrymen to answer post 62.(if you can!).
Well, l'm waiting so_far. What's YOUR answers to my questions?
Old title
Oct 08th, 2011 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“UK will protect the Falklands as long as they want to remain British” says Defence chief Fox
Bla bla bla
A few days later “chef” Fox is in the middle of a big scandal.
“Liam Fox under increasing pressure over 'adviser' Adam Werritty”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8814924/Liam-Fox-under-increasing-pressure-over-adviser-Adam-Werritty.html
what has that got to do with britain protecting the falklands,
Oct 08th, 2011 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oh, i forgot, argentina can only talk, cant she laugh laugh
#62 and #66 I will give you FACTS, you can take your own conclusions.....
Oct 09th, 2011 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 01) Are you frightened of their decision? (ICJ)
Argentina's recent history has shown that when a situation warrants it takes the case to ICJ , so, I see no reason to believe that Argentina is frightened of their decision at all.
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/135/15432.pdf
2) Are you like sr Think & need the court to be stacked with your amigos before you'll make a move?
I dont know Mr Think position.....the fact is Argentina and also the rest of the international community, believes that differences between countries should be resolved in the framework of the United Nations and by the Committee created for this purpose (C24) .... other way anyone can ask which function has the UN ? all countriers must return to the stone age and each one looking for a big stick ?
3) Don't you trust the ICJ?
What i bealive is irrelevant. The fact is that lately ICJ has done shameful things in the sense of “freedom” of the people ....... which go against the legally constituted countries, in particular I am referring to Kosovo, which fully polarized the international community and generated a more insecure world.
In that sense Russia, China and many important countries do not share the ICJ decision which has humiliated the Serbian people and their ancient territorial integrity.
4) lf the court finds against you, will you accept it's decision & drop your ridiculous claims?
Argentina historically has always accepted mediation and international arbitration where they come from, even with adverse results in all of them.
a) ICJ (case of pulps mills Argentina-Uruguay 2009)
b) Mediation the Vatican (the pope in the management of the Beagle Channel Argentina-Chile 1978)
c) Has even accepted the mediation of a King of England (Edward VII in 1902) in a city called Trevelin
5) lf the court finds that you are right, will you still expect us to surrender ourselves to your tender mercies?
Is up to you....
Facts =
Oct 09th, 2011 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 01) Argentina refused to acknowledge the jurisdiction of the ICJ when challenged by Britain over its spurious claim to Britain's Antarctic Territories.
2) neither the UN nor its sub-committees, nor their sub-committees, have any authority to adjudge sovereignty cases.
3) In the Kosovo case, it was the UN that referred a specific question to the ICJ which is their own arbitration panel. It was answered so the UN got what it wanted. No good complaining just because you didn't like the result.
4) Argentina refused to accept the decision of the international arbitration panel over the Beagle Channel case. It went on to refuse the arbitration decision of the Pope over the same issue. In both cases Argentina had agreed to abide by the decision. Argentina has no honour!
5) We will comply with any decision of the ICJ and are fully bound by it. Argentina has never accepted the full jurisdication of the ICJ and still refuses to be bound to it.
6) You are talking through your *rse as normal !
@69 so_far,
Oct 09th, 2011 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you sure that you're not a politician? You havenot satifactorily answered ANY of my questions but have skirted around them.
ln fact l believe that you know that you have no proof of ownership & no case & are hoping for a miracle. Pressure on Britain from some unknown source perhaps? Not going to happen.
Get it through your thick skull, you donot own the Falklands, never have & never will. lndeed you are talking through your bum.
Hope this helps.
Show us a document from any time between 1500-1982 that states in black and white
Oct 09th, 2011 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That the islands are argentine,
Or I /we/give these islands to Argentina,
These islands belong to Argentina,
If you can produce this document, go to the ICJ and take the Falklands back and sod off,
or, if you CANNOT produce a document to the above, then this clearly states that you not only have no claim, but proves that you have been trying to steal the land from the island people, by theft/skull dupery, fraud, con tricks, and indoctrinated brain washing,
Let the world see you for what you really are,
So please, produce the documents, or be quiet,
Thanks,
They can't as they don't have any(documents)or any rights to our lslands & they know that they don't.
Oct 09th, 2011 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They thought that Britain was in decline & they could help themselves & we could do nothing about it.
The world moves on, we are not the superpower that we were( no-one stays on top for ever), but we can still handle Argentina.
Is Britain in decline or disintegration.Alex Sammond is certainly rattling a few cages in London.Even the Guardian is going all jingoistic its so worried about Scotish independence.The full weigth of the London media is going to come down on the SNP leader but that will only annoy more Scots.Anyway all Britain ever was was a figleaf to brainwash the poor bas....s on the periphery to fight for London.Wales would soon follow the Scots and NI would eventually disintegrate.Expect the full force of the oligarchs and Mi 5 to come down on sammond.I would say he might be advised to beef up his security
Oct 10th, 2011 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0What would the Malvinenses do then declare themselves cockneys.
its all academic anyway as the momentum is unstoppable the huge emergeing countries with all their minerals will become more and more powerful while England and the rest of Europe drown in a sea of debt
The 'huge emergeing(sic) countries with all their minerals will become'......... Chinese quarries..................
Oct 10th, 2011 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With CFK s new laws Argentina wont.anyway its pretty obvious the Chinese arent the same rapists the Europeans were
Oct 10th, 2011 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And why should you never trust the Chinese?
Oct 10th, 2011 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any country with a population of over 1 BILLION people
that claims that ping-pong is their favorite indoor sport
has GOT to lie about other things.
Hello everyone-
Oct 10th, 2011 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why in all latinamerica we speak SPANISH or Portugues ?
Remember Tordecilllas treatment? That´s why-
Why we don´t speak english? or french?
Because you are from UK..you are not original from the islands, you are only the son of strangers was usurped our territory-
You are the sons of oportunistas, en una epoca en que las ballenas tenian valor, nada mas.
That´s why yur self determination can´t grow in any forum, because you are not from there. In any way.
You are part of UK? ..jjajjja-- which part? London? Bristol? maybe Ireland places? Aberdeen? Edimburgh?
Uds. seran el jamon del sandwich que comeran ARG. y UK cuando termine todo esto.
You have the opportunity of your life rigth know- to get all in the world need: PEACE.
Don´t loose the opportunity.
What would happen if 90% of the UN says “Malvinas is part of territory of Argentina”?
DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? UK ACCEPT?
That´s we are looking for- And every year we are more and more on that whay, looking we are a peacefull country, we have no weapons to oposse to UK in a war.
Even british society and taxpayers is looking that.
B.R.
44, 47, 50
Oct 11th, 2011 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, Think - el rugby...
@78 Rosarino,
Oct 11th, 2011 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0l couldn't care less if 100% of UN said that our lslands belong to you.
l know that they donot. Anyway there is only one place you can take your ridiculous claims & that is the ICJ.
Why don't you do it? Scared of the outcome?
The only way you will get OUR land is by court or war.
So stop talking about it & do it!
they want what they never owned,
Oct 11th, 2011 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they will get what they never expected,
they want others to do their bidding
whilst they just talk,
she has led them into a corner, and tied their hands and feet,
and her people cant even see it,
this is what happens when you lie and lie to your own people, even her bloggers on here, still belive in a leader that primises them everything, yet can deliver nothing, after the election the book will be closed,
are you argie bloggers listening to the truth for once,
she has ties your hands and feet, she has declared to the world [laugh laugh]
that you are a passive and peace loving nation, no more violence,
all she can do is talk, and more talk,
and all you can do is listen and listen,
laugh laugh,
Rosario In the 1960's the UN still stated that Homosexuality was a disease....
Oct 11th, 2011 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any 90% of the UN has said that the Falklands are in integral part Argentina, I believe only Argentina is peddling that claim, even Brazil only talks about “legitimate rights to” , as opposed to “integral part of”.
Sorry to ruin your day, but Argentina's argument looks increasingly bizarre at the UN when she claims to support self-determination but then says it doesn't apply in cases were she claims territory, now why would Argentina being saying that? :)
Britain's message to Argentina over the Falklands: back off
Oct 11th, 2011 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[or else]]
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100106691/britains-message-to-argentina-over-the-falklands-back-off/
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This is a completely self-serving argument.
Oct 11th, 2011 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Britain cares so much about self-determination, why were the Chagossians expelled from their native islands? why does the UK try to avoid fixing their situation by means of faux-moralistic measures such as declaring them an area of environmental protection? Why does the Chagossians' desire for self-determination matter less than the FIers'?
I'll tell why; self-determination, people's rights: these just don't matter in here. The British government will refuse to enter negotiations, either because they don't perceive handing over the islands to be in their nation's self-interest, or because such an attitude would incite the British populace's nationalistic ire against the ruling party (political suicide). Self-determination is but an pseudo-moralistic excuse the British government uses to mask its real motivations when presenting its position to the international community.
I don't care whatever happens to those islands, I'm just noticing the obvious. If the British government afforded such an importance to people's rights, its conduct towards the Chagossians would have been quite another. As such, when analyzing the FI''s situation, one should explain the British government's position by means of factors other than those it presents.
tut tut.
Oct 11th, 2011 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Out of argument out of excuses,
bring up the rear, see what’s their, nothing is their,
So/change the subject,
Sadly our Success naturally breeds envy and contempt.
:)
Oct 11th, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 080- So, Isolde, you prefer a new war, for sostein your wishies?
Oct 11th, 2011 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That´s insane- for you, your people, your sons, for british people, for us......who wins?
Forgetit87 says what is obvious: and I put another reason; YOU are the excuse to deploy power in South Atlantic by british, and no one in Latoinamerica want that-
War is the continuation of politics by other means; but sometimes people die....and your prefer that? Is incredible what I read, coming from a woman.
How you can get identity? what is your image of yourselves? do you feel southamerican in any way? or do you feel more close to britain?
No one islander can answer that...you feel british people born 14000 km away from your “origin country”.
That´s a BIG contradiction; born in Malvinas and feel...british?
Same thing feel the inmigrants fron Spain, Italy, from 1880 to 1986 we receive millions of inmigrants, and they feel more “european” than argentines, even when they live here for decades.
You´ll never says “I feel southamerican, even LATINAMERICAN people”...because you people can even imagine that.
Such a case for psychiatrist...and prefer war....all prefer the same in the islands?
Crazy thing....
Regards
87 Rosarino
Oct 11th, 2011 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very childish aren’t we,
The Falklands are in the south of the planet, or the bottom
Do you say you like arsoles, [no]
That region is south America is it not,
So the Falklands are in the southern hemisphere,
What they consider themselves is up to them,
How the world places a piece of land is on the map [look]
But if they choose to remain British, and look to Britain, rather than Argentina, that is up to them,
It has nothing to do with Argentina,
So your argument is irrelevant and makes no sense,
But merely an excuse to upset the apple cart,
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As for the British military in the south Atlantic,//
But this was down to argentine aggression, and still aggressions today,
So please if you have a point, at least make it the tip, and not the bottom .?
jjajajjaj ! you are a very good joker.
Oct 12th, 2011 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Get an example: Japan; part of Europe? nonono...part of Asia-
Madagascar: part of Asia?...nonono...part of Africa.
Malvinas: part of London? Part of Europe? which one you prefer ;)?
Sourthern hemisphere......very very good way to stop the sun whit one hand ;)
By the way, your country is part of Europe? or you are part of Mars? Atlantida maybe?
How is possible to recognize your southamerican positioning into the globe? what do you need? A geography manual?
Google earth is very good tool to find the way.....are we talking about the same islands?
That´s the real problem: you can´t recognize anything else, any reason, any historical, phisical, even geography reason.
You want to be british in a south american world......
When 90% of the wold recognize our rights, (and we are very very close to get it) you will become UTOPIA ISLAND.
Get and identity- get self determination-get some respect !
B.R.
Please change your bier brand...does not help you to think rigth.
B.R.
@87 Rosarino,
Oct 12th, 2011 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0l did not say l wanted war. l said that that is one of the only ways you will get our lslands. The other way is in court. i.e. the ICJ which you never even mentioned. l guess you realise that you have no hope there as you have no proof & your evidence is all lies.
We don't care what you think of us or what you think about us.
We don't care if we don't fit the mould that you think we should.
We know what we are & we don't wish to be Argentines or part of Argentina, as surprisingly to you as that seems.
We know that we have every right to be here & you have none.
And what we do here is absolutely NONE of your business.
No l don't want war, but l will go to war if it is necessary to protect ourselves from ANY invaders.
“By the way, your country is part of Europe? or you are part of Mars? Atlantida maybe?
Oct 12th, 2011 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How is possible to recognize your southamerican positioning into the globe?”
You seem to be under the impression that they need to be part of anything. They can simply be themselves and theres nothing you can do about it.
Impossible to get any dialogue whit you people...
Oct 12th, 2011 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are not agree whit any idea about changes on the area.
What would be your surprised when, eventualy, GB change their opinion by pressure of USA, ONU, UE, etc., and do the same at 1947 on Palestinian territories, leaving there and ONU getting protectorate.
Who become Israel ?
What´s going on whit you people?
Do you have Plan “B”?
Please think about it: you are not only an argentine problem, your are a pain in the ass of the Latinamerican peoples. Other different category of problem...other conflict, more biggest as you want, and more biggest as UK need.
Bueno, no seguire avivando giles, ya hable demasiado-
Saludos,
And one wonders why the world laughs, at people that make no illogical sense
Oct 12th, 2011 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cannot accept what is told, but only what has been taught,
Perhaps if one put ones brain in gear, before speaking, then perhaps common sense would prevail ??
93 Isolda
Oct 12th, 2011 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0invaders?? where??
there is here one we can send there with their stupid fans all in a package for the same price
justin bieber............its all yours ...do what you can...insoportable....use your typhoons with him...perhaps you like him baby baby baby baby
@94 malen,
Oct 13th, 2011 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0What on earth are you talking about, girl?
Your country were the invaders in 1832 & 1982.
@92 Rosarino,
That is correct señor, it is impossible to get dialogue with us because there is nothing to “dialogue” about.
1)You want our country(& it's NOT yours).
2)We refuse to give OUR country to you(a not unreasonable reaction)
3)You think that we are being “intransigent”for refusing your illegal & insulting demands.
Who cares what Latin America thinks when it comes to OUR sovereignty, l certainly don't.
Don't go away frustrated, just go away.
“Impossible to get any dialogue whit you people...”
Oct 13th, 2011 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, when a country states that it refuses to have dialogue about a subject. I understand that would make it quite impossible.
“What would be your surprised when, eventualy, GB change their opinion by pressure of USA, ONU, UE, etc.,”
It's not going to happen.
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