MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
“UK pays Falkland Islanders to remain in the Islands and not migrate to Argentina”
Argentina's permanent representative to the United Nation, Jorge Argüello, accused the United Kingdom of paying the Falkland Islanders to remain on the Islands during a conference Wednesday in Mexico’s Autonomous University, UNAM. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulespoor British politicians, the kirchnerists will make them feel like they're going through labor, I pity them greatly :(
Oct 14th, 2011 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0looking like that, and laughing, telling the world that the UK pays them to stay, is just pathetic, and as i have said many times to you indocrinated brainwashed fools, all you can do is TALK,
Oct 14th, 2011 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0dont worry about us, its your country that is the laughing stock of the world, and all you argies even thinking, or agreeing with such patheticness,
makes you truly indocrinated,, what a waste of a great country,
while your laughing at us, they are destroying your very own country,
??????????????????
because who would not like to live in a third world pseudo dictatorship which states that you are sub human scum undeserving of basic human right just because your existence stands in the way of Argentina's pathetic ego?
Oct 14th, 2011 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0it could not possibly because the islanders are sick of scum like this belittling, threatening, insulting and on occasion attacking them
also for Argentina to preach about rioting, social problems and poverty is a bit like having Adolf Eichmann criticize you for being intolerant
“Meanwhile in New York the UN's Fourth Committee finished its deliberations on the remaining Non-self Governing Territories this week, making no comment on Argentina's claim to the Falklands and reaffirming the right to elf determination for all the peoples of the Territories.”
and once again despite all of Argentina's self pitying whining and hysterical martyr complex, the UN utterly ignores it and reiterates the basic legal principle in the UN charter which utterly blows away the “support” (ie vague and toothless support for negotiations) that argentina claims it has.
in short, Argentina just proves how much of an international joke it is once again.
we are doing ourselves,
Oct 14th, 2011 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0instead you are just a subdit of your mainland 140000 km away in 21 century, modernized
i read the resolution and it said they were going to make a comment in a week
@malen
Oct 14th, 2011 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0and what does distance have to do with it? its the islanders choice and only the most spineless and pathetic nation would try to fall back on basic geography to deny basic human rights once every moral, legal, historical and political argument has fallen apart
whatever comment they make, they have already stated that ALL peoples in ALL territories have the INALIENABLE right to independence and self determination. given that the situation of west Sahara is a far larger concern to them, i doubt that they will give the falklands issue any amendment against self determination which could then be used by Morocco to continue to oppress the west Saharans.
given history i would guess the “comment” will be nothing but asking for negotiations, in which the UK has full permission and legal backing to decline, and will face zero repercussion or consequence due to the fact that the UK is breaking no international laws as stated by the UN charter or the ICJ, both of which are unlike resolutions in that they are legally binding.
in short Argentina loses once again, and nobody cares once again.
Ambassador Argüello, British are beginning to get tired of subsidizing a small community of expats 14000km away in South America, meanwhile millions are suffering devastating cuts to jobs and services back home.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Broadcasting Corporation (BBC)
“we need a bit of political bravery and admit we can no longer fund the islands in the south Atlantic”
“We could pay out for ever.. or we could say: it is time to make a change.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11999601
What an ignorant Mr. Argüello is.......!!!!!
Oct 14th, 2011 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands anual budget is funded just with the incomes from their own ecomonic activities, like fishing, tourism, sheep farming, oil prospection.....
No subsidies are needed from mainland to keep their inhabitants living in an excelent level of life, better than the most EU countries, and all Latam countries of course.....so do you really believe that the Islanders would wish to change the paradise for an underdeveloped counrty ???...... Who, healthy minded, would leave a country with 0% unemployement rate, well distributed incomes, free health and education, good elderly care, safe and and clean enviroment, etc., to go to a country with all the contrary conditions ???
Please, Mr. Argüello, be smart enough and don´t fall in that kind of children lies because your countrymen don´t deserve to be considered stupids as their Foreign Affairs Minister is......
Did you guys actually elect this strange man? I know democracy is still a relatively new concept in Argentina but if a UK politician came out with such peculiar comments (and lies) he would be a member of the Monster Raving Loonie Party. I take it that this guy is a few steps short if a tango? Is he medicated like your president?
Oct 14th, 2011 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's this idiot and the Defence Minister .... so who is the 3rd stooge ?
Oct 14th, 2011 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mad'un - the Fourth Committee is now debating 'outer space', so I wouldn't get your hopes up for any more comment on the subject of the Falklands. Not till next year :-)
ROTFLMAO
Oct 14th, 2011 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jesus, the Argentines should cringe with embarassment at the moron making statements like that. FIG pays for its own social and welfare programmes. What an asshole.
well seeing as the Argentine government as of late has perfected the art of hysterical nationalist posturing with no regard to how much of a joke it makes them look, i would wager we have many more occasions of hilarity from these incompetent tools in the near future
Oct 14th, 2011 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0First this clown alleged that there were no islanders only British soldiers, then the defense minister began screaming about how there were islanders, but they were all “hostages” who “belonged to Argentina”, and now this clown decides that they are being payed not to like argentina.
if this was more bull coming from the fevered typings and weeping hearts of the majority of the Argentina online community i would not be surprised, but the fact these are official statements from their government who represents them to the entire world makes this joke all the more sweeter.
@justinkuntz
from what i have seen i would wager that a large number of Argentines are now baying for his blood for being far too lenient and treating the islanders far too humanely.
Jolly good: if it's that good to live in the Falkland Islands, let's have more British to settle there. Great to know they are doing so well. Admittedly, Argentina is a better democracy; no economic worries, no dangers of censorship, and no selling it's country's soul to foriegn outsiders and with the Sarah Palin of South America to lead them, no worries for the future.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0There appears to be a slight rift in Argentine politics, 3 weeks ago wasn't Puricelery saying that the Islanders were being held hostage by the British military?
Oct 14th, 2011 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0And didn't Arguello less then a week ago state that most islanders were employed by the military?
Now we are bribing them? And rather being employed by the military, they are sustained by “social assistance and employment budget”.
Oh dear, is it a requirement for Argentine representatives to blast themselves in the foot repeatedly?
140000 km? Is that what you think the distance between the Falklands and the UK is Malen? Really, you make me laugh. We you get things wrong, you do so by at least an order of magnitude...
Oct 14th, 2011 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge Argüello must be related to the chap who gets on here called 'Flip-Flop'. This man needs intensive psycotherapy and the stress of having to make a hopeless case and then feed it to a load of coked -up,free-loading Mexicans is obviously taking its toll. The story-teller is changing the story every day and its now looking hopeless. He really should not be allowed outside of the Asylum.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Meanwhile in New York the UN's Fourth Committee finished its deliberations on the remaining Non-self Governing Territories this week, making no comment on Argentina's claim to the Falklands and reaffirming the right to self determination for all the peoples of the Territories.”
Oct 14th, 2011 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0In other worlds your government has failed to get the support it needs despite CFK's rants to the UN & her claims of widespread G77 support they have completely ignored her.
Dear me how embarrassing for our Argentinian chums.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0don't the Falklanders know English for wanting to migrate
Oct 14th, 2011 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0to Argentina instead of Australia/Canada/New Zealand... !! ??
@6 Ho, ho, ho, ho! Love your link. Peter Preston. An ex-Guardian editor. (And we all know how useless the Guardian is!). And a link nearly a year old. Of course, only the desperate wouldn't see that the fool was senile. He was 72 even then!
Oct 14th, 2011 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are funny. And now you've got Arguello, Puricelli and Timerman. Better known as ArUSmelly (He is), PutridBelly and TimeToLeaveMan. Argentina's answer to the Three Stooges. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Stooges)
Here's a question for you. I'm sure that you're aware of the concept of “putting one's foot in one's mouth”. So, in the case of these three, do they all use the same mouth? And is it CFK's? After all, that's big enough!
Argentina pays the Argentine population to sit on their asses unemployed and not migrate to Britain, like so many Argentine professionals do.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine government clearly has no honour, no respect, no dignity and is prepared to peddle bullshit on top of bullshit to countries that could care less and have a comparable history of ZERO democracy, ZERO rule of law and ABSOLUTE steal from the poor to pay the rich governments. Governments that if they are not semi permanent are military, or backed by the military.
They are puppet governments of the US, they get used by the US, they abuse and kill their own people. And the people “learn to love their servitude”, as Aldous Huxley once said in Brave New World. Latin America is the blueprint for neo fascism.
The last Paragraph has nothing to do with the rest of the article! This Mercopress guys are making good money from UK sources.... But there was quite an exchange at the UN and the UK said NOTHING! Quite surprising that the UK remained somnolent... http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2011/gaspd483.doc.htm
Oct 14th, 2011 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0comment 14 robert
Oct 14th, 2011 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it is 14.000.000 meters
you are right I forgot some zeros sorry
Alejomartinez thats becasuse the UN did the talking for us reaffirming the right to self determination for all the peoples of the Territories. In other words they totally ignored the statements from the Argentine representative & dismissed your claim.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Such entertainment, and it looks like the RGs want another four years of this crap.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes: that UN representative for Agentina not only builds castles in the air, he lives in them- but the pyschiatrist isn't collecting the rent. Give it time; he will.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh my, what a statement Mr Arguello! I cant say that I have received money from the UK Government! You have to love these moronic statements from Argentina.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know Malvinas invaders are not stupid, they ( each family)should request minimum -- 1 million euro --(neither $ nor £) by way of Swiss
Oct 14th, 2011 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0banks from London Government.
Seriously?! Wow, talk about clutching at straws and making wild statements!! I also have not had any payments from the UK Government, wonder if I could have it back dated to cover my six generations of ancestors that were here before me?! This is almost as crazy as when regular Pingu tapes arrived in the Falklands from the then Foreign Minister Guido Di Tella in an effort to make friends. Makes you wonder at the thought process sometimes.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I still have my Pingu tapes!
Oct 14th, 2011 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey don't know Di Tella, he may have had some slightly mad ideas but at least he realised the islanders had a voice and it was better to build bridges than burn them.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Argentine person had ventured anything like this before. Some people - as you know - love to spread 'original ideas' supposing they will turn, somehow, into realities. Instead, everyone laugh their socks off. This Argüello was certainly not raised in the same planet we live, otherwise he would have read the newspapers (own and alien) edited in the past, say, 80 years... It's a shame that I have to live surrounded by apes like this one. Btw, I heard that the GM post at the FIDC is vacant. Can I send a CV?
Oct 14th, 2011 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lmao. How embarrasing.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don't pay attention to argüello, he is getting paid for being a lapdog, nothing more than that.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I very much doubt Argie that you will be considered! People here might think you will implement your country's economic policy of destoying the Falklands economy...
Oct 14th, 2011 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My solicitor is Argentine, we occasionally have a jolly good laugh at the Argentine rhetoric regarding the Falkland Islands. He came to the UK to use his legal skills and has not looked back. He even has shares in RKH.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now I realize why he came to the UK, he didn't want to catch a metal illness from the imbeciles that seam to be electable in Argentina.
This idiot wants to take a gun, close the door of his office, put the barrel to his temple and pull the trigger. Better still put the barrel in his mouth as he might miss. He is an absurdly deluded individual that has no place in this world. On second thoughts I wonder if the other deluded wankers in Argentina could do the same no one would miss them.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 034 M_of_FI . Not really. I can scan my plastic proving I've been a member of the Conservative Party of GB for more than 40 years, a party comittee letter asking me to participate in the elections for... a sit at the Commons(!), &c. Besides, I can name UK references aplenty and have ample 'camp' experience, especially iro sheep husbandry. In other words, I'm not the argie kind most of you British people are used to.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No need to list your 'credentials' Argie, I know all about you!
Oct 14th, 2011 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine nationalist morons posting here, should be ignored!
Oct 14th, 2011 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If anyone's getting paid by the government, it will be these guys to post on here. Seriously, the average Argentine couldn't give two ***** for the Falkland Islands. The Argentines posting here are from the moron nationalist class, who have been used to prop up successive regimes that have murdered and arrested their own people for political thought.
Replying to their posts is just feeding these zealots. Remember in 1982 they had their asses kicked, if the UK ever needed support it would get it. I am proud to say my country, New Zealand, not only supported the UK in 1982 but sent them warships. The UK has far more friends in the world than Argentina ever will.
Pardon my ignorance but what is a “Pingu tape”?
Oct 14th, 2011 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 038 M_of_FI (#) Why the doubts then? Only actual setback is that my Irish-blood wife would kick me off the house if she knew. Otherwise...
Oct 14th, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cheers!
@ 40 here is Pingu
Oct 14th, 2011 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Original VHS Opening & Closing: Pingu - Barrel of Fun (UK Retail Tape)”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quUgV-d0l9Q
Well we may laugh at this idiot,
Oct 14th, 2011 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And many say the British and others should just ignore him,
but as he is a member of the argentine government, the damage has already been done, the world laughs,, at not only him, but of all argentines, her government is an embarrassment to the good people of Argentina, they are dead bent on destroying everything, with this stupid obsession with the Falklands, even if it means breaking up her own country,, in the real world she would be arrested as a stalker,
But in her very own deluded little world, nothing but nothing will get in the argentine governments way, until they get the Falklands,
Despite THE GROWING FACT, [they don’t even really want them]
Deluded or just brainwashed .
@23 and others. The UN has notnsupported any right of “yours” tomself determination as you are not entitled to it. Many countries supported Argentina but none you neither the UK! And self determination was specifically supported with respect to many specific territories but not you! Go through the statements.mMaybe the UN has also gone paranoid? Good job Argentina, one again!
Oct 14th, 2011 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2011/gaspd482.doc.htm
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2011/gaspd482.doc.htm
Argentina had a funny way of convincing the Islanders that the Argentine lifestyle was better. Litter strewn streets and pooping in Post Offices would be a funny custom to get used to.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But of course what our english friends dont want to admit is they dont allow Argentines or Brasilians or Uruguayans to become citizens.So its BULLSHIT.
Oct 14th, 2011 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This old argument we have had in the North of Ireland for generations where the gerrymandering is momentous and in the Malvinas of course the nearest neighbors cant get near the place.
Argentinos we know all about English democracy its the perfect joke its like Berlusconi and the mafia
Alejo - can you be the person that shows me how many nations have taken action in support of Argentina. I can list a number of countries that have actively supported the oil exploration including Singapore, Brazil, US. How many have taken action in support of you?
Oct 15th, 2011 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0supported by Singapore/Brasil/US ...!! any evidence ??
Oct 15th, 2011 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow the ondignation here is truly extraordinary.From the peripheral ones with half a brain because they know that Arguello is doing what English diplomacy has done for 500 years indoctrinate people who know little about a subject with their point of view.Argentina has finally got its act together diplomatically and it is very effectively getting all of Latin America on.its side in the Malvinas conflict.It is also doing this very well in Spanish speakeing circles in the US now fifty million and ever more important.The English i refer here to the oligarchy in London never too slow are well aware of this and are upping thier spend on diplomacy on the continent as they cut it elsewhere.The stooges on the Malvinas indeed are hugely subsidized from London who desperately need oil as Scotland nears independence.Emigrants to Argentina from the Malvinas have openly spoken of it
Oct 15th, 2011 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Geo - Singapore gvt has a significant equity holding in RKH, you can check that for yourself fairly easily as they have declared their position when they crossed the threshold required to publicly declare their interest. I can post a link if you require?
Oct 15th, 2011 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0US - is happy for the FI companies to float some of their equity on the US markets and is also happy for a US owned rig to be doing the drilling.
Brazil - was the stopover for the rig itself and has been more than happy to allow ships to go to an from it's ports carrying cargo (including oil equip). They even have an entire Korean owned squid processing facility that is specifically for FI caught squid. In addition the oil charter flight from Miami flies through Brazilian air space. Oh and the rig is Panama flagged :-)
Ogara - why has no Latin American country taken any action in support of Argentina?
49 O gara (#)----- What a load of old bollocks. As Scotland nears independence? what world are you living on? the Scots might be mouthing off about independence and good luck to them if they choose to go down that road. However you will find that if it ever came to actually making that decision they will quickly come to the conclusion that they are better of being in the union than no being in it.
Oct 15th, 2011 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0They will have to have their own benefit system, their own health system, their own tax system, their own military forces, all the present nuclear sub bases would have to come down to the South of England, all subsidised building benefits would be stopped. No it wont happen not for a long time if ever.
As for your propaganda bit about the stooges being subsidized heavily that's a load of old bollocks as well as you well know, you cant have it both ways because it seems from other Muppet's that the UK is broke so how can we heavily subsidized anyone. Muppet
** 50 Beef
Oct 15th, 2011 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the oil drilling procuces high tension with Argentina is not convincing.
i believe just frame up between UK /Argentina.
i know you will be very angry
BUT
i must say the truths.
frame up ? what for ?
could be to hide occupations of past collaborations.!!!
O Gara- oh bullshitter of fantasia! Do please list the PRACTICAL EFFECTIVE measure being inplimented by S American Couyntries against us and in support of Argentina? - Come on - LIST THEM - or go back to the bog!
Oct 15th, 2011 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every plane that comes here from S America and every ship that arrives here from S America produces standard export paperwork and documentation from S American states - all of which is formally addressed to_ The appropriate Govt Dept of - The Government of The Falkland Islands(or sometimes they write Islas Falklands) - never islas malvinas!!
As for the subsidy/money you say we receive from UK - please LIST the UK Department WebSites and Offices that show these figures please - LIST them - stop speaking gibberish!
O Gara cannot as he is not Irish, a decent maybe, but not born one,
Oct 15th, 2011 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a true Irishman wouldn’t disgrace himself by siding with bullies,
GEO, the only pact, is Argentina and the USA,
we all know the behind the scenes action over the years, you will just have to except that Argentina is slowly but surely turning into the invisible man, on this planet
Its just pure jealousy on argentines part,
But then Britain success always did breed envy from losers .
** 54 brit
Oct 15th, 2011 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in other words; you say that ...
the Monteneros operation cooked up together with US+Argentina. !!
BUT,AFTER
the transforming abroad them settling and using in any countries
exceeeds the Argentina power limits...
** brit
Oct 15th, 2011 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are afraid of speaking ....?? !!
in other words; you say that [i said nothing of or abt monteneros]
Oct 15th, 2011 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0cannot you read,
argentina has always beenin the hands of powerfull people alined to the USA,
you are afraid of speaking [] i speeky but you no listeny,
But then Britain success always did breed envy from losers
** brit
Oct 15th, 2011 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you speak somethings
BUT
you tell nothing...!!
you say something
Oct 15th, 2011 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but
no ones listening
exept geo,2
i ask somethings
Oct 15th, 2011 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BUT
somebody play 3 monkeys ..!!
3 monkeys = i didn't hear..i didn't see ...i didn't know ...!!
just 3 monkey
Oct 15th, 2011 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0surley not
I'm pretty sure that Argüello is mistaken.
Oct 15th, 2011 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are you listening to the news,
Oct 15th, 2011 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0riots in rome, and demonstrations in 80 other countries, against banks and corupt goverments .
@beef 47: why dont you reply my comment? All that stuff about Brazil is only to avoid your lack of arguments on UN lack of support to your position? Good job Argentina, again! Yoy had said that the UN supported “your” self determination but the only references on Malvinas were in favour of Argentina. If Inwere you I would call Singapore but remember they are a G77 member also... Poor you
Oct 15th, 2011 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64
Oct 15th, 2011 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the committee officially stated that ALL peoples of ALL territories have the INALIENABLE right to self determination and independence, and there was no amendment referencing the Falklands after this point, so in the mind of that particular UN committee this applies to the islanders as well
which is in itself just the committee reaffirming the UN charter it claims to follow and which is legally binding, and which Argentina has been hysterically trying (and failing) to ignore, as well as the ICJ laws and precedents in this issue.
Well Bulldog give us your view on the independent on Sunday/Mirror poll showing Scots will vote for independence by a 12 point margin.It certainly will make the Malvinas more important for the London elite with no more North sea oil.will MI 5 assasinate Salmond i wonder? or will they find him in bed with Fox or something.the Scots arent so disposed to the gay lifestyle as the London elite very effeminate so different to the rest of the society but much more ruthless.
Oct 16th, 2011 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Briton what are you going to call yourself when the Scots leave let me see Little Englander? sounds good no.BTW i certainly am 100% IRISH born and bred one of the descendants who threw the likes you out of at least part of my country
Islander 1 Really i hope you learn to spell better in Español than you can in English which you will need pretty soon
@66
Oct 16th, 2011 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0ah yes like they voted for independence the LAST time... oh right.
thing is unlike your failed state, Britain is not on the brink of falling apart simply because despite the latest economic downturn to hit the world, and despite the minor (compared to the rest of the world, and definitely compared to your third world chaos) unrest, the UK is still one of the richest, most powerful, influential and stable nations on earth, and there is yet to be a single concrete reason to break from it
whereas argentina has been slowly falling apart since the 60s, and would have long fragmented had it not exterminated it's native inhabitants long ago to ensure none of them would be able to reclaim any power over their lands.
besides, even Salmond's most “radical” plan involves staying permanently linked with the UK economically and militarily, and this is the plan hes had to shelve because Scotland just wants more devolved powers, somewhat like a federal system.
and unlike third worlders like you (given your obsession and language it is fairly clear you are Argentine who tries to pretend he is irish), Scotland is not known for it's hysterical racism and homophobia, and just about any scot would be disgusted by your pathetic hatred of those different.
but then again given that argentina has a history of exterminating ethnic minorities, either directly by mass murder, mass conscripting black argentines for wars of conquest against neighbors (like the triple alliance war), and other such methods, your racism and homophobia is to be expected as much as your quite amusing lack of brain or spine
Well you are in pleasant form on saturday night Braedon.You must be truly in need of some comfort.
Oct 16th, 2011 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pal dont shoot the messenger buy the Independent on Sunday later on
It shows right now Scotland has enough of being in the periphery of the London elite.BTW they dont sell it in Buenos Aires La Nacion or Clarin are much superior.
Ireland for all its current problems is not a failed state indeed comared to England its an oasis of tranquility no riots here amigo
I havent the slightest hatred for those who are different I merely note the predilection of the English elite to being gay.The French have commented on it for centuries.Maybe you are yourself but i have nothing against you on that score.
i assure you I am 100% Irish and if you cant accept that could i suggest iots yourself who is full of vile prejudice
The notion that someone purporting to support the British empire could criticize Argentina for exterminateing minorities is truly mindboggling.Your saxon cousin Hitler learnt very well from how your empire did it over many centuries
Hey i got work im doing whats your excuse?
Oct 16th, 2011 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0and please, from someone i'm guessing is 100% more Irish than you ever could be, stop pretending to be Irish, as you are looking even more pathetic than the average argentine nationalist tosser, and that is no small feat.
also you do realize less than 200 Scots were part of this survey? and that these numbers wax and wane every month? hardly what one could call an accurate survey.
the main “independence” faction is backing getting their own taxation and independent welfare system ,which is Salmon's stated option while remaining in the UK.
thing is the SNP have been forced to change their “utter independence” position (due to it simply not selling with the majority of Scots) to essentially becoming an entity like a US state in terms of their own taxation, legislative powers etc, but with a separate diplomatic power, while remaining in the UK proper.
and you are insulting people for being gay, and claiming anyone you don't like is gay, a solid indicator you are just another spineless homophobe.
and you do realize that up to half the soldiers, sailors and statesmen who ran the empire were Irish themselves? hell you may as well rename it the “British and Irish empire”
also those in Britain's empire, unlike Argentina's natives, were never arbitrarily exterminated on official order, as Britain's modus operandi was ruling through proxy and building the infrastructure of it's colonies to maximize their wealth and wealth generation (which is why their former colonies in Africa were the wealthiest in the continent when Britain left, and is why India is a growing superpower).
and once again, stop pretending you are Irish, it is just embarrassing for everyone here.
O Bullshitter O Gara! I havent the time to check all my spelling on here! sorry I hit the keys in a hurry (actually there are only 2 I can see)- I can speak pretty fluent Spanish also- its usefull when I travel to friendly nations like Uruguay and Chile and visit my many friends there.
Oct 16th, 2011 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your spelling may be better - but my god - what a load of tosh you write!
The poll was conducted with 2004 adults twice the average.Spin it any way you like but Scotlands on the way out of the UK.
Oct 16th, 2011 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0again i have nothing against gays merely commenting that there are more than average in the London elite
I do of course realize that during the days when the empire controlled Ireland a huge amount of soldiers from here fought in Englands armies.Its the perfect example of the poor bast..ds on the preiphery fighting for the elite.Just like the huge majority in todays English armed force are from poor destitute regions kept down by the centre.
Ahhhhhhhh so the great Oliver Cromwell never existed he didnt slaugther a quarter of the population of Ireland and ethnically cleanse half of the country did he not.You poor brainwashed fool
dont tell me amigio I am not Irish i am 10o% Paddy who knows exactly how we have suffeered from the savagery of the English empire one of the most evil savage ruthless that ever existed.England has more blood on its hands than any state that ever existed.But the BBc wont tell you that will they
2004 adults from accross the UK, 176 this month from scotland. you should really read before you decide to go on a lengthy self righteous tirade
Oct 16th, 2011 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0and as i have said, both Salmond's “radical” plan and the one he will actually put before voters will mean Scotland stays in the UK, and all indicators show that while Scotland wants further devolved powers (ie like one of the 50 US states), actual independence is about as likely as Argentina giving it's land back to the natives.
thing is unlike argentina, Scotland is not populated by brainwashed, hysterical idiots who will do whatever the propaganda tells them, which may also be why Scotland on it's own is an infinitely better regarded, more stable and more prosperous nation than argentina.
and the very fact you are still whining about the “political elite” seems to mark you as just another brainless xenophobe who is too scared to be honest about his hatred of other nations, so you just pretend you hat their “elite”. similar to how nations like north korea can threaten mass butchery and slaughter on south korea, while professing to only hate their “elite”.
and as for cromwell i agree he was an evil scumbag who holds enormously too much regard from historians. however, given that you are painfully not irish, i'm not sure why you are talking about him other than a desperate effort to prove your claim.
also as you are now whining about the “evil empire” you just acknowledged it was half irish so you just shot your argument in the balls once again.
now if all you have is hysterical conspiracy theories, racist and homophobic whining, or self righteous and hypocritical chest beating about history, your gibbering is no longer required.
also if you want to pretend you are Irish, its best not to use so many obviously Spanish words.
@ 72 “thing is unlike argentina, Scotland is not populated by brainwashed, hysterical idiots who will do whatever the propaganda tells them, which may also be why Scotland on it's own is an infinitely better regarded, more stable and more prosperous nation than argentina.” yeah, right
Oct 16th, 2011 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1114567/Scars-girl-beaten-English-Scotland.html
yes, very stable
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1114567/Scars-girl-beaten-English-Scotland.html
Alejo - the UN supports neither Argentina or the UK. The UN asks that any decision is found through negotiation and is in the best interests of the islanders. That is not support for Argentina!
Oct 16th, 2011 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0I identified nations that have taken an active role in the FI oil exploration. Can you show me a single nation that has backed up their support to Argentina with actions? A = No! He he. I bet those Brazilian ports were happy for the custom though, especially when the rig called in.
(#) 55 amigo
Oct 16th, 2011 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0thats right, 70s montoneros movement organized by CIA-GDD in mixed
and after by 82 malvinas military operation many montoneros delivered to british intelligence to settle them for any countries where determined before finally they hand them over again GDD organization.
This is terror organization in reality.
Some of them died ,some of them have even grandchilds,they have had
many kinds of professions,lawyers,businessmen,politicians,academics,
tv-media commentators-- i watch them on tv sometimes.
(#) 74 amigo
i know you make drawing the person who he is, an academics,he visiting
many countries to seminars,he makes some stock exchange investments,
he is formula race fan,his wife is indian-british origin,she visits to some
countries especially south americans ones sometimes.
** 75 Ed
Oct 16th, 2011 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0but, why the Argentina selected !! ??
(#) 76 amigo
Oct 16th, 2011 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Becouse Argentina is out of sight country,becouse the faces are resembling to some countries' faces,becouse this country has extreme protein youth,becouse this society is always stray .
just misfortune...!!
Oct 16th, 2011 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK has 6 times the GDP of Argentina and Argentina has 5 times the murder rate of the UK.
Oct 16th, 2011 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK is more stable and prosperous
71 O gara
Oct 16th, 2011 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are about as much Irish, as I am argentine,
And to pick on others spelling makes us certain you are even less of what you claim,
To pick on the spelling of others shows how elitists you seem to think you are,
Never correct others spelling, unless it is obvious they no not,
Xbox is just being childish again, when he is not watching gayball,
And trying to insult he’s elders, oohh that hurt, silly boy,
As for Scotland, no dice, end off,
Your interest is the Falklands, and you don’t have them
Never did, never will,
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@74 Beef. Concrete actions in suppport of Argentina? Well, besides all the statements and declarations signed at the highest political level, all your “neighbouring” countries have denied access to their ports to your ships, Uruguay, Brasil and Chile. Also flights my dear! Not to mention that some European friends also join us!
Oct 16th, 2011 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the UN does NOT support YOUR claim certainly as it has never admitted you're entitled to self determination and keeps on calling both parties (that means “two”) to resume bilateral negotiations on sovereignty. This is not exactly the UK position... Good job Argentina once again!!!
Alejo - no country has prevented a civilian ship going to and from the FI and Brazil is even happy to offer it's port facilities for fishing vessels operating in the FI to unload their catch in Brazil. The rig even docked in Brazil on it's way to the islands (a rig flagged in Panama). Flight? Why does Brazil allow the oil charter flight to pass through it's airspace?
Oct 16th, 2011 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No declaration has been received by the UK gvt and why would we give a toss about a declaration? Like I said all you have is words and no actions. Actions mean actually doing something. There are no sanctions, embargoes, military blockades or legal proceedings.
You have words and nothing more.
Singapore funded, US rig (Panama flagged) and supplied via shipping from Brazil and oil charter flights from Miami. Now that is REAL support :-)
Now show me one nation that has backed up verbal support with actions. The drill bit turns and Argetina is simply the jelous neighbour with an inferiorty complex, and is unwilling to do anything about it.
81 Alejomartinez
Oct 16th, 2011 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since this article is about your man at the UN telling outright and verifiable lies to get support, the less you say about your UN support the better, don't you think.
And if telling lies is your definition of 'good job Argentina', then poor you.
Who cares what the U.K. does with the Falklands, it's their territory. Get over it.
Oct 16th, 2011 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Alejo is gunning for a Argie position in the UN by making things up :-)
Oct 16th, 2011 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has been doing such a good job that a second rig is entering the Falkland Islands oil exploration next year. Yeh good job Argentina! He he :-)
When oil starts flowing Rockhopper should name a rig after CFK just to rub it in.
Oct 16th, 2011 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I might ask Rockhopper to name one of the lower sands Thatcher! I think that would be a fitting name :-)
Oct 16th, 2011 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lejo- to back up what Beef tells you - would you like me to list the names of all the Falkland registered vessesl that have been to and from Punta Arenas (Chile) in the last 6 months? Several also transitting west out through the International Free Maritime Passage of the Magellan Straits.
Oct 16th, 2011 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure someone here can tell you how many fishing vessesl that operate here also use Montevideo port.
You will need a decent sized bit of paper!
“all your “neighbouring” countries have denied access to their ports to your ships, Uruguay, Brasil and Chile. Also flights my dear! Not to mention that some European friends also join us!”
Oct 16th, 2011 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that why LAN Chile continues to fly out of Puntas Arenas on a daily basis?
“Not to mention that some European friends also join us!”
Oct 17th, 2011 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Illegal in the EU.
Alejo...there is a Falklands flagged fishing vessel in Montevideo right now. It is in dry dock. Maybe Montevideo didnt get the memo...?
Oct 17th, 2011 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here is a website for the Argentine fascists who post here, they should try reading it, as should everyone else...
Oct 17th, 2011 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.yendor.com/vanished/junta.html
The same mentality that allowed these bastards to commit their crimes of murder, homosexual rape and torcher are alive and well in Argentina today, as we can see by the standard Argentine post!
We must prepare ourselves to defeat fascism.
sadly just like some die hard nazis,
Oct 17th, 2011 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they refuse to except anything told to them bu outsiders,
they only except what they are indocrinated with,
and will perish in the gutter with their leader .
@92
Oct 17th, 2011 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this video may help you. Gustavo Luis Breide Obeid a fellow officer , unafraid to speak the truth ....
http://youtu.be/YsHzDywHX38
Lol the Britts are corrupting their Falkland village people with
Oct 19th, 2011 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0cold hard cash to stay how sad :(
Another toothless tiger
Oct 19th, 2011 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Growls meow meow
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A bit rich of the Argies... especially since they effectively pay people to live in TDF.
Oct 20th, 2011 - 07:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0surley then , to end this problem, [as argentina states that it is]
Oct 20th, 2011 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then argentina should find out what the british goverments is paying each islander, then triple it,
but he must announce it in the worlds press,
after all, he stated they were effectivly being bribed,
now he must prove this statement, if he cant
then perhaps even the mexicans will belive, ??
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