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Two Conservative and two Labour MPs will visit the Falklands in November
Four members of the British Parliament are scheduled to visit the Falkland Islands for a week beginning November 3, reported the Islands government. Read full article
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Oct 21st, 2011 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let's hope they do the biz and send
*unambiguous*
messages to the UN, Argentina and the people of the Falkland Islands.
l expect Argentina to start screaming about this. Good, hope it upsets them.
Oct 21st, 2011 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0get all the union jack out flying,
Oct 21st, 2011 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0invite the argie and worlds press, and show them how it is done,
and how proud they are to be british,
Another Lord Chalfont expedition?
Oct 21st, 2011 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Oct 21st, 2011 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 05 Argie
Oct 21st, 2011 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody's oppressing anyone, you big eejit
So this is going to put an end to the conflict, bravo!!! The UN is supporting Argentina's claims but at the same time is supporting the islanders claims WTF??? lol
Oct 21st, 2011 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PS: who's going to pay for their vacation?
** Islander
Oct 21st, 2011 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you got the secret documents sent to your adress ...??
@7 The UN is supporting Argentina's claims? When did that start?
Oct 21st, 2011 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC….
Oct 21st, 2011 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So…… The MP’s will be visiting Sea Lion Island.
I assume they will be staying at the Sea Lion Lodge.
I assume they will be meeting their host……., absentee landlord, beneficial owner of Sea Lion Lodge, beneficial owner of Weddel Island and co-founder of Rockflopper Exploitation; mr. Richard Faras Visik.
It’s a little world……….. isn’t it?
Rockflopper?
Oct 21st, 2011 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world needs to understand that the British are illegally taking fish from our waters, and they are after petrol and our minerals,” expressed Argüello.
He dont think so :-)))))
Again pure jealousy,
Oct 21st, 2011 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our MPs visit a British island, and they complain, at least we visit what we care for,
If you like the sea lions that much
Go buy your own, and stop trying to pinch theirs,
lol
10 Think
Oct 21st, 2011 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm guessing you don't have absentee landlords or foreign investment in Argentina? Actually,I don't care, because it's none of my business.
I can see a theme emerging here.
Anyway, I understand that the best offer received for Weddell Island came from an Argentine, who would have had no intention at all of living here. I bet you wouldn't have objected to that.
Wow how Mrs Doyles visit somes up how London uses the periphery 17000 defence jobs in west Dumbartonshire.The poor bas....s are so downtrodden there is hardly another job in the place but serveing her majestys forces.
Oct 21st, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What will they do in London when Salmond persuades the majority of the poor Scots to finally tear off the London vampires.
(13) Monty 96
Oct 21st, 2011 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct me if I'm wrong..................
Weddell Island was owned by an Argentinean before 1982. He was forced to sell after the conflict.
And yes........................ a theme emerging here:
How Mr. Richard Faras Visik, the sole owner of an island that represents the 2.5% of the whole mass of land of Malvinas is inviting four British Parlamentarians to his luxury lodge in another of his islands to chat amicabily about British support and protection of the Oil Exploitation by Rockflopper, a British Oil Company he is co-founder, co-owner and director of.
Ahh, so Urinehopper director is paying for the trip?
Oct 21st, 2011 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”He is planning to extend the lodge(Sea Lion) and make it “a wee bit more luxurious ”. He intends to open it in 2009.”
Just in time.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/southamerica/falklandislands/740766/The-boutique-revolution-reaches-Falklands.html
Yup, Argüello is at it agains - full of sh*t :-)
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Islanders are protected by the UN :-)
http://wp.me/1JdB5
Is Benneton not an overseas landlord in Argentine? On of their holding company, Edizione , has real estate and agriculture assets in Patagonia that cover a territory of about 900,000 hectares, with over 280,000 heads of livestock. Why don't you nationalise these farms first before complaining about your neighbours get up to!
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 015 Think
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, Visiks don't own Sea Lion Island,they only own the lodge. It isn't a luxury lodge, and Visiks have no responsibility for this MPs visit, or any other. Apart from that, you're completely right.
You're describing Mr Visik cosying up to MPs over a cup of tea,and calling him an absentee landlord, so which is it? Can't be both.
MPs visit on a regular basis.Sometimes they visit Sea Lions, sometimes not. Once they even had tea at my house. Go on, Think, why don'tyou share your ideas about what was in it for me, apart from a morning's baking?
You might have guessed that I haven't much time for conspiracy theorists.
If you think that Britain's protection of the Falklands depends on an overnight stay at SLI for four back- benchers, you're not taking enough of your medication.
Marcos/Think - behind the times as always- groups of UK Members of Parliament have been visiting annually since long before 1982 - different groups regularily visit British Territories and Commonwealth Countries. FIG will pay the bill for all their local travel and accomodation costs - including Sealion Is.Visick unlikley to be there - instead they will meet and talk with the Islands born manageress and staff, both Islanders and Chileans.
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0(19) Monty96…..... and (20) Islander1
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
”You're describing Mr Visik cosying up to MPs over a cup of tea, and calling him an absentee landlord, so which is it? Can't be both.”
I say:
I have the ”funny feeling” that Mr, Visik will be visiting Sea Lion Island in early November.
Will one of you please tell me if I’m right?
You say:
“MPs visit on a regular basis. Sometimes they visit Sea Lions, sometimes not. Once they even had tea at my house. Go on, Think, why don't you share your ideas about what was in it for me, apart from a morning's baking?”
I say:
Well…. That depends of who you are……Are you “somebody” in the Islands?......... or just a nice native picture opportunity for visiting politicians from the Metropolis?
You say:
”.......I haven't much time for conspiracy theorists”
I say:
Who’s talking about conspiracies?
I’m talking about plain old legal and illegal lobbying by the Sheepocracy and Squidocracy of the Islands…………...................., as usual.
You say:
”If you think that Britain's protection of the Falklands depends on an overnight stay at SLI for four back- benchers, you're not taking enough of your medication.”
I say:
I will have to repeat myself here…..: It’s a proven political fact that Britain's protection of the Falklands depends on the successful lobbying of the “Malvinas Issue” by the Sheepocracy and Squidocracy of the Islands.
No medication needed... Just plain history my dear kelpers.
** Islander
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0well done !! don't speak about these documents..keep tight-lips !!
very vey interesting...aren't they !! ??
Think,OK will try to find out for you if he appears- mind you though its early season yet so the MPs may well be the only guests that day.
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sheep/Squidocracy? - Oh come on - you are about 50-60 years out of date
there! Long gone are the days when the old SheepFarms Assoc had clout in Govt House! And the squidocrats have more clout in Vigo than Stanley! Colonialism died here long ago- our Government Office in London(our equivalent of an embassy if we were independent) is what communicates with Parliament today.
Geo- answer is what documents?
(23) Islander1
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
”Sheep/Squidocracy? - Oh come on - you are about 50-60 years out of date there!”
I say:
Dont say!................................................. Really?
So you are all mates on them Islands now?
No more class differences?
No more rich and poor?
No more conflicts?
No nothing?
Just an utopian perfect little Britain in the South-Atlantic, being constantly attacked, without any reason whatsoever, by that despicable fascistic Latino Military Dictatorship and their brainwashed mass of ignorant, analphabet, proletarian animals from across the water.
Tell me again………..
Who’s many decades out of date here?
24 Think
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0It may be a bit too early in the morning for me, but I have to confess I don't really understand anything you are saying. You're hysterical man, get a grip.
Nobody here is holding themselve up to be better than anyone else. Class divisions, inequalities, conflicts...they exist everywhere.
Of course islanders lobby to protect their interests. Why wouldn't we? We'd be mad not to. When I had the MPs in my house, I lobbied the hell out of them.
As for whether I am 'someone' or just a 'native photo opportunity', that says more about your warped view of the islands than anything else. I don't have anything to do with squid, sheep or oil though.
What is the 'sheepocracy' anyway? Most farms are family run businesses and have been since the 1980s.
Yes, you are a conspiracy theorist. You have constructed this fantasy world of poor downtrodden masses dominated by rich business and political interests, because the reality is just too boring for you. The fact that we are just a bunch of ordinary people who really don't want to be Argentine is unacceptable to you so you've made up an alternate reality and you seem to believe it.
Well fill your boots. I have to say though that it's holding you back. Basing your policy towards the islands on a myth is a mistake, because it gives you the idea that you are going to get somewhere and sets you up for failure and humiliation. It's the same myth that led the Argentines to believe in 1982 that they would be welcome liberators.
(25) Monty96
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
”What is the 'sheepocracy' anyway? Most farms are family run businesses and have been since the 1980s.”
I say:
What a selective and short memory you have…… The Sheepocracy ruled the Islands until 1983 just to be replaced shortly after by the currently ruling Squidocracy…… No fantasy here………… Just facts of your history.
You say:
“You have constructed this fantasy world of poor downtrodden masses dominated by rich business and political interests, because the reality is just too boring for you. “
I say:
Nope……………, I’m talking about a very real little bunch of ordinary British squatters being used as spearhead by British Business and Political Interests for the appropriation of South Atlantic natural resources.
You say:
“The fact that we are just a bunch of ordinary people who really don't want to be Argentine is unacceptable to you”
I say:
Nope………...., what’s unacceptable for me, and for a increasing number of Latin-Americans, is the fact that a commercial discovery of oil in Malvinas will trigger the proverbial British greed and voracity, inciting them to bigger and bolder colonial activity in an area of the world where they have no right to be.
Didn't the “greedy British” conclude an agreement with Argentina to share the results of oil exploration around the Falkland Islands? The agreement unilaterally torn up by Argentina, contrary to 31/49, in a fit of pique. Bit of a fuckwit thing to do, one you obviously endorsed.
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And again, probably despite the fact you prefer lecturing your own useless mantra, the revenue goes to the FALKLAND ISLANDS GOVERNMENT to benefit the people of the Falkland Islands.
The people born there, have every right to be there.
The person with no rights is the descendant of a European emigre who colonised the native lands of the indigenous peoples of Patagonia, a coloniser lecturing about colonialism, with the desire to impose an alien culture upon the people of the Falkland Islands against their clearly expressed wishes.
But then he will just claim they're not “people”, just undermenschen. Somewhat of a fascist and unfashionable attitude don't ya think. To deny they are a people is racism, its purely based on the fact they're different to you.
So that makes him a fascist, racist, fuckwit does it not and unfashionable to boot.
And he doesnt' even have to trouble himself with a little thing called evidence.
Now, I am looking into a crystal ball and I see a reference to his cowardly stalking activities in the future.
So hes a creepy, stalking, cowardly, fascist, racist, fuckwit.
Anyway else think of a suitable epithet?
17 Redhoyt, You made it after all! Should I call you Wethoyt from now on? :-)
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 027 JustinKuntz
“a coloniser lecturing about colonialism, with the desire to impose an alien culture upon the people of the Falkland Islands against their clearly expressed wishes”
Justin, What about the clearly expressed wishes of the Chagossians?
Is that because they are dark skinned and not of British ancestry? or
Britain's actions around the globe are hypocritical, duplicitous and mendacious?
some of these argies are pulling legs with bells on,??
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about the clearly expressed wishes of the Chagossians?
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep, not one of Britains best actions,no doubt you would agree we do no such thing with the Falklanders?
or others today that choose to be british,
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0argentina must understand that she cannot have everything she sees,
or she will one day create what she tells everybody she hates,[an EMPIRE]
Think - where is this squidicracy that rule us? What is their power? OK in a tiny population like ours its inevitable that you will get some elected who have major private commercial economic interests . Buit a funny thing happens in a Western style democracy - Elected members here have to declare their interests and either stay at a meeting but not vote where they can be argued to have a direct involvement - or, as in most cases - leave the room completley if something they can be thought of a heavily involved with.
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is actually one of the reasons why UK has the final say in how we exercise democracy here - as UK is answerable to the UN to ensure that fairplay happens at all times in the Islands.
Don,t Argentine politicians behave like this as well?
Think
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just wanted to say that your fellow nationalistic fascist zelots are - like yourself - a bunch of hate mongering, racist, knuckleheads and at some point in the near future your zelotry will lead you to repeat the mistakes of your past. Your country is one of the most corrupt in the world and your democracy is a democracy in name only. You are a defacto colony of a peronist dynasty.
33 I suggest you read some Borges and start looking in mirrors maybe continiously for a while because really pibe you have some serious issues to deal with.
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not on here claiming ownership of some islands based on the year 1833 and in ignorance of the wishes of the people who live there and have done for almost 200 years.
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you and your fellow nationalist scum who come on here ranting raving want to be treated with respect earn it. Stop the insults, demand your government stop the intimidation, stop blinding jumping up and down and waving your pathetic little flags in our face and respect the people of the Falkland Islands and their wish to remain free of Argentine domination.
Don't tell me what to read O gara, you colonialist scum, go back to Ireland. Stop your fascistic demands and nationalist expansionism!
You want respect? Try considering other people. Otherwise **** off! I'd like to physically explain how you fascists make the people of the Falklands feel!
Your more happy throwing children out the backs of aircraft or at the very least cheering the same people responsible as they send their jackboots in to occupy other lands. You don't get it do you? The penny just doesn't drop!
You people disgust me!!!
Obviously you are a little upset.Really I would suggest some councelling.Someone in your position should really see someone quickly before you do yourself or someone else some harm.Do take care and after a while when you calm down a little maybe you could start an English language course so you might have a coherent argument with someone.
Oct 22nd, 2011 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 036 O gara
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is nothing to have an argument about, other than the fact that ex Europeans like you who call yourselves Argentine want to claim someone else's land against the wishes of the people who live there! Claiming they have no right and no say in the matter!
That is the only argument on here. That is why you and your fascist ilk are on here, to stir up trouble, to wave your flag in the face of the Falkland Islanders! To jump up and down, make negative comments and upset people.
Well I've had enough of you fascist ****S. I'm calling you out, coward scum!
While you were waving your flags, your generals were rubbing their hands with glee at the distraction that had caused from their throwing your children out of the backs of their airplanes. You people couldn't really give a dame what just a few years ago your own government did to your own people. You were too busy cheering them then, and your doing the same now! In a toss up between your own children and attacking the Falkland Islands, the Falkland Islands win every time. That is why you disgust me so much and that's why your type disgust the people of the Falklands and British. We sacrificed for your jackboots! You sick evil people!
Small minded fools.
There is no argument here O Gara. Apart from a bunch of fascist loons claiming someone else's land against the wishes of the people who live there. Attacking the economy of another country is an act of war. That is what excites you fascist scum.
**** OFF! Fascists!
@37 Anti-Fascist,
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well you certainly put that ogara fool in his place! Well done that man & l agree 100% with you.
@26Think,
You know something, sr Think? l couldn't care less whats unacceptable to you & increasing numbers of South Americans.
1)The Falklands are ours,
2)We will do what we like with our land & it has sod all to do with you.
3)l hope there is lots & lots of OUR oil here, mainly just to annoy people like you.
4)Apart from that, have a nice day♥.
26 Think
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hear what you say, I just don't believe it. I think what you and increasing numbers of South Americans want is to get your hands on our oil, preferably after we have done all the hard work of finding it.
All that crap about Britain's ambitions in the area is just made up to make you look better.
Did El Thicko ever come up with anything?
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thought not. All mouth and no trousers. TM
Who cares what low life sub humans fuckheads and murderers from Argentina think about a visit from Britain by proper politicians to the Falklands. When will the sub humans get it into their heads that nothing that the Falkland Islands do has anything at all to do with them. Idiots.
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Way too much antagonism!
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My guess is that if you happened to meet in any street bar you would have great conversations with a bit of circumspection.
Only on the web - where we can't see each other's body language and where most retain anonymity - do we harangue each other.
I prefer to blame the medium rather than the message, but, there again, I'm an easy-going, regular sort of guy :-)
Someone mention Lord Chalfont?
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ .. 1968 - On December 11th, following Lord Chalfont’s report, the Government decides not to continue in its attempt to reach a settlement on the basis of the Memorandum of Understanding, as Argentina is not prepared to accept either that the Memorandum should include a statement that any transfer of sovereignty would be subject to the wishes of the Islanders; or that the unilateral statement, enshrining this safeguard, should be specifically linked to the Memorandum. Mr Stewart makes a statement in Parliament later the same day, which announces the decision to continue negotiations and confirming that the British Government would continue to insist on the importance of the Islanders’ wishes.
1969 – Negotiations continue between the two Governments but sovereignty is not discussed...”
http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/1966-1981/
Nothing changes!
Politicians !
Don't ya love 'em ....... ? Nearly as much as Commies with conspiracy theories :-)
Hasta la vista babies !
43 Wethoyt, Yes that was me.
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Lord Chalfont, then a minister at the Foreign Office, was the leader of this expedition. He had the unenviable task of trying to persuade the 2,000 islanders that the British empire might not last for ever”
And in the same article...
“People sometimes ask me why Argentinians make such an endless fuss about the islands they call Las Malvinas. The answer is simple. The Falklands belong to Argentina. They just happen to have been seized, occupied, populated and defended by Britain. Because Argentina's claim is perfectly valid”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/apr/02/comment.falklands
“People sometimes ask me why Argentinians make such an endless fuss about the islands they call Las Malvinas. The answer is simple. The Falklands belong to BRITAIN . They just happen to have been settled , occupied, populated and defended by Britain. Because Argentina's claim is perfectly, invalid
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0agreed
@44
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep Mr Gott, Britain of the year :-))))))
Guardian resignationIn 1981 the BBC sought to appoint Gott to the position of editor at its cultural magazine The Listener, but his radical politics led to him failing to obtain security clearance and the post went instead to Russell Twisk.
Years later, after repeated accusations of being anti-British, he finally resigned as literary editor of the Guardian in 1994 after allegations were made in The Spectator that he had been an “agent of influence” for the KGB, claims which he rejected, arguing that “Like many other journalists, diplomats and politicians, I lunched with Russians during the cold war.” He asserted that his resignation was “a debt of honour to my paper, not an admission of guilt”, because his failure to inform his editor of three trips abroad to meet with KGB officials at their expense had caused embarrassment to the paper during its investigation of Jonathan Aitken.[4] The source of the allegation that he was an agent, KGB defector Oleg Gordievsky. In his resignation letter Gott admitted “I took red gold, even if it was only in the form of expenses for myself and my partner. That, in the circumstances, was culpable stupidity, though at the time it seemed more like an enjoyable joke”.
Looks to me like the Islander's were the ones doing the persuading :-)
Oct 23rd, 2011 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's economy races ahead of Europe and USA, inequality, poverty rapidly reducing.
Oct 24th, 2011 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/23/cristina-kirchner-argentina
Richard Gott the Guardianista, does any sane person read that rag? The only people reading that pile of garbage are the drugged up hippies and co-habiting same sex couples it panders to. Adverts for political correctness and equality advisors fund the rag!
Oct 24th, 2011 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0People like Gott get jobs by cleaning the backsides of the CEO's in the washroom.
Imagine Gott in 1939.... “I think we need to negotiate terms with both Germany and Russia, maybe a policy of dividing our Empire between the two would be useful?” Or 1955... “Berlin wall, why yes, it is because we occupy West Berlin, were we not there, there would be no need for a wall!” He makes money by writing shit so obscene people take notice!
48 fantazum2011
Oct 24th, 2011 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting article
“Under the Kirchner administrations, Argentina has achieved the fastest growth in the west – after defaulting. Listening, Europe?”
At the same time Nicolas Sarkozy told David Cameron: 'We’re sick of you telling us what to do'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8844773/Nicolas-Sarkozy-tells-David-Cameron-Were-sick-of-you-telling-us-what-to-do.html
Marcos, you must read this story I found. It is SOOOOOOOOOO funny !!!
Oct 24th, 2011 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.wix.com/cusak1951/fantazum
@51 fantazum2011,
Oct 24th, 2011 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Very funny l agree, fantasy.
Thats how we are. Do you still want to try to colonise us after knowing this? Or try throwing us out?
Are you tough enough?
Thats mainly the men, the women are even wilder !
@44
Oct 24th, 2011 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any other unbiased article's from Mr Gott?
http://www.parliament.uk/edm/print/1994-95/249
That this House congratulates the Spectator, The Times and Sunday Times for their part in exposing Richard Gott of the Guardian as a KGB agent of influence at the height of the Cold War; notes that such agents were not meant to be spies passing Western secrets to Moscow, but propagandists feeding Moscow disinformation to the West; views their behaviour as treacherous and subversive, though not illegal in peacetime; believes that they deserve full public exposure, even if they cannot be prosecuted; and accordingly calls on the security service to stop trying to obstruct Oleg Gordievsky, who identified the KGB's British agents of influence nearly a decade ago, in his efforts to expose these people once and for all.
join to me at facebook: paren los vuelos de LAN a Malvinas
Oct 24th, 2011 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.wix.com/cusak1951/fantazum
Oct 24th, 2011 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thoroughly enjoyed it, a massively fun romp.
Written with real insight into the Falklands and their people.
Has the makings of a Tom Sharpe -type paperback.
http://www.wix.com/cusak1951/fantazum
Oct 24th, 2011 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Damn well written, realistic description of the”hard times” at ”Pradera del Ganso” anno 1982…….
Who’s the author???
” -In there they kept us, the bastards“, Allie spits defiantly. We are standing outside a tin roofed timber building that has a bell tower on it which might allow it to be used as a church in case somebody wanted to pray for redemption, but was considered so unlikely it was turned into a bar and social club for the majority who were pretty much certain they were in Hell anyway.
-How long were you in there Allie? I ask.
-Over two months, he replies.
-Terrible...terrible, I sympathise.
-Oh, it wasn't so bad, he sniffs.
-How do you mean?
-Food was good - all Argy stuff and they gave us plenty of Beer and fags.
-Oh, right, I answer then ask. ”But they wouldn't let you out would they and you couldn't get washed or
use proper toilets and things“?
-Who told you that?
-It was in the newspapers.
-Load of bollocks, he sneers. ”They kept us in there at night because of the bloody English sending planes over to bomb the airfield but in the daytime we went back to our houses”.
-I thought your homes had been taken over by the Argentinians?
Some of them had. I had a couple of officers in my house but I liked them. Real polite they were and they gave me all sorts of stuff……………….,”
Chuckle chuckle®
Who’s the author???
Oct 24th, 2011 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tin tin perhaps ?
51 fantazum2011 Funny as hell! at the same time you can read “how badly” they were treated at Pradera del Ganso, spotted by Think as well.
Oct 24th, 2011 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The first actual Falkland Islander I meet in Goose Green is 'Allie' Robertson. Allie is a
shepherd but he is in Goose Green at the moment because a helicopter pilot had seen him behaving
inappropriately with a sheep and took pictures which have since been circulating throughout the British
military and later turned into a series of post-cards”
but you also noticed how they banned the pictures of the argentine officers with the sheep,
Oct 24th, 2011 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Oct 24th, 2011 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only true Patagonians can appreciate the beauty of the following paragraphs written by a pom……:
”…..in the darkest time of the year, when the sky is a doom-laden grey canopy and the wind moans in the roof timbers, the land is beset by a dread misanthropy and the air is torn asunder by rampaging squalls that rake the brooding landscape with sheets of hard snow, lacerating hail and bitter rain that sears a man's flesh and beats like the hammers of doom upon the tin roofs of the shuddering dwellings in what has been said to be the last place God made and the first he abandoned.”
Or:
”…..a vicious squall suddenly appears like a grey wall hurtling over the
landscape and I am suddenly being flagellated by volleys of stinging hail that is carried through the air by
a screaming gale.”
http://www.wix.com/cusak1951/fantazum
Home!
bla bla bla,
Oct 24th, 2011 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gotta go
im just about to watch that dead man become mumyfied on channel 4
back later .
im just about to watch that dead man become mumyfied on channel 4
Oct 24th, 2011 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0back later .
Jees, I knew Cristina Kirchner reminded me of someone
.ha ha great,,
Oct 24th, 2011 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it was a very good programme
cristina will be recycled, environmentally friendly
“There is hardly anybody around and the only sound is the sigh of the eternal breeze and the creak of a
Oct 24th, 2011 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0door somewhere. Nobody is gathering the sheep and the massive shearing shed isn't filled with the
shouts and curses of Anzac shearers sweating to meet their target of 150 shorn animals in 12 hours.
They even clipped the name of their capital to just 'Stanley' and nearly all of the islands' population is
living there in modern housing with oil-fired central heating, and they drive between the numerous
restaurants and shops in their new Japanese cars, spending freely and confidently anticipating
undreamed of riches from the discovery of Oil around their shores, or a big payout from the British
government if the place gets handed over to Argentina - which, considering we no longer have the means
to defend it - is quite likely”
“Argentina was our friend before the war and built all sorts of stuff
and gave us petrol and an airport and oranges and bananas and stuff and we were all learning to speak
Spanish anyway you know”.
She gasps and pushes her little microphone almost into my mouth. “So you would have been happy to be
part of Argentina”?
“Oh yes Chay”, I blurt. “No problem and that Mrs. Thatcher, well - she's just a war monger and a dictator
so she can't talk about anybody can she the old bag”?
“The words on the page oozed with a triumphant malevolence and my dreams were filled with images of
Scoffy fleeing into the lonely grasslands, one hand on his gonads, pursued by a posse of howling
Falkland housewives waving pastry cutters”
http://www.wix.com/cusak1951/fantazum
What a load of CRAP.
Oct 25th, 2011 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Markon Alpaco
What do you do when not dreaming of the Falklands? I don't believe you do anything other than dream, you are your fellow fascists have a psychosis and your little government are pulling the strings on it.
You are just another moron.
65 Go to sleep boy, you don't want to be late for school tomorow :-))
Oct 25th, 2011 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think & Marcos, you two amaze me. lt's British humour.
Oct 25th, 2011 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0The narrator was setting up the silly woman reporter.
He was also getting back at someone who had crossed him.
You idiots will grasp at any straws to further your ridiculous claims.
ln hindsight it was probably not a good story as you silly Argentines have taken it at face value.
Anyway it was funny.
@67
Oct 25th, 2011 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0If it gives them a warm feeling in lieu of getting their dirty little hands on the Falklands, good luck to the fully paid up anorak wearing,lets scour the internet, for bad Falkland's goss' sado's that they are
67 lsolde
Oct 25th, 2011 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Honest islander isn't he?
Is he still alive?
sad argie plonkers
Oct 25th, 2011 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(67) Isolde honey...............
Oct 25th, 2011 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It’s a very good story….
I don’t “Think” for a second that Marcos took the “British woman reporter part ” at face value, as you imply.
As for me……., I didn’t even comment it…………., did I?
But there are some elements on this story that certainly can be taken at face value.
The depiction of the good treatment the people of Goose Green got from the Argentineans during the conflict could be one.
The murder of young trooper Alan Addis by a pack of cowards would be another………
If your femenine intellect doesn’t grasp that, is no wonder that so many of the male islanders seek the company of more intelligent sheep ;-)
:-)))
Oct 25th, 2011 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marine Alan Addis, was abducted by Buzo Tactico torchered for information regarding the defence of the Falkland Islands and then murdered. How do I know this? I don't, but I happen to know the circumstances surrounding his disappearance and the investigations. The incident happened during a routing patrol of outlying settlements by the MV Forrest, there were only 4 marines and one officer, and Addis went back to the Forrest alone but disappeared. The circumstances are covered in the book “Reasons In Writing” by Ewen Southby-Tailyour, who was the officer. People know Buso Tactico was involved. Maybe you do too?
Oct 25th, 2011 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is this what you mean about the cowards?
Then you say “The depiction of the good treatment the people of Goose Green got from the Argentineans during the conflict could be one.”
Is this a piss take? What is good about about being locked in a church for the duration of the conflict, sharing one toilet between over 100 people?
Meanwhile the brave Argentine Army commanders lived in the houses, a life of luxury, surrounded by abundant food. Meanwhile in the muddy peat dugouts and tents their NCO beat the soldiers for petty transgressions and executed a few - a habit they gained at the Estadio Monumental Antonio Vespucio Liberti... it just wasn't football and it wasn't Liberti!!!
But then you love that stuff Think!
73 “Marine Alan Addis, was abducted by Buzo Tactico torchered for information regarding the defence of the Falkland Islands and then murdered”
Oct 25th, 2011 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where did you get that from, Disney channel?
'It is understood that those arrested were at the social event on the night the marine disappeared”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/falklands-arrests-over-missing-marine-two-arrested-over-falklands-marine-1603200.html
Marcos Alejandro
Oct 26th, 2011 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0It seems like you're the one on Disney Channel.
No one has been charged or convicted and the body hasn't been found. Sounds like a case of “convict them without charge” Marcos. But then that's how it's done in Argentina!
The rumour was it was Buzos Tacticos, they have a LONG history of abducting, torchering and murdering innocent people! Although they prefer unarmed children!
73“”torchered“
Oct 26th, 2011 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 075”torchering”
Are you related to PhD Beef or you learn that from Disney Channel again?
@71Think,
Oct 26th, 2011 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0naughty, naughty, talking about sheep & men.
ls that your fantasy, señor?
And its feminine, not femenine. l don't care how you spell it, just trying to be helpful.
No Think, you may not have commented but you did copy it all out implying that the Argentine officers were “good guys”. You knew it was all a take off. Think- word & story twister extrodinaire.
@76Marcos,
yes, most of us know, its tortured & torturing.
Thank you for your concern, Marcos.
Its always a pleasure when the teacher is corrected .
Oct 26th, 2011 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The i is watching with or without the [dot] lol
(77) Isolde
Oct 26th, 2011 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“No Think, you may not have commented but you did copy it all out.......”
I say:
No Isolde, I didn' comment it and I didn't copy it all out.......
You are, again, confusing me with another.....:-)
Weak coffee or strong vodka?
74 Marcos Alejandro ------ Only an idiot like you and your fellow Argentine bloggers would say that this Marine was not captured and killed by your fellow cowards after being kicked and having his toenails lifted along with a few bolts of electricity fed through his balls. I think we all know where his body is don't we? try the same vicinity where the nuns were thrown. Its a no brainer for the rest of the worlds community.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BritishPuppy “where the nuns were thrown”
Oct 27th, 2011 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great timing puppy, the person who did that was sent to life in prison today!
Great job Cristina!
(80)
Oct 27th, 2011 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0There must be a lot of “Idiots” on Malvinas then......
Everybody in them Islands knows the culprits......
But, what the heck............It was only a pom..
He had it coming.
As they say.
the person who did that was sent to life in prison today!
Oct 27th, 2011 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great job Cristina!
Not too long putting him behind bars then?
@79 Think,
Oct 27th, 2011 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 01) Refer post#56 at 3.59pm, this article.
2) Refer post#73 at 3.56pm, “UK Parliment praises Brazil, but regrets 'hardening' policy towards Falklands”
As l said, you posted it in two articles & provided a link about how “good” the Argentine officers were.
You had better lay off the whisky dear fellow.
Getting low on Vodka, it's time for avisit to Mother Russia again! (only joking!).
(84) Isolde….
Oct 27th, 2011 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You start at (67) insulting Marcos and me for not understanding the “British Humor” in the very funny “Silly Woman Reporter Episode” on Fantazum’s story.
When I draw your attention about the fact that I never commented on that specific ”Silly Woman Reporter Episode”, you instantly, as you, women so often do , change the subject to an entirely different episode. The “Goose Green” episode.
Two diverse episodes dearest……………………........................................................
The ”Silly Woman Reporter Episode” was a joke ( a jolly good one, I must say)
The “Goose Green” episode was a Kelper’s eyewitness version about how civilians were treated by the Argentineans at Pradera del Ganso during the 82 conflict.
Pradera del Ganso during the 82 conflict.
Oct 27th, 2011 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Took the liberty of googling the strange name you use for goose green,and in Spanish it says
More than a hundred islanders were imprisoned in the community hall
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pradera_del_Ganso
Más de un centenar de isleños fueron encarcelados en la sala de la comunidad, mientras que más de 1.200 soldados argentinos ocuparon el asentamiento y los alrededores de Darwin, manteniendo la pista de aterrizaje de la zona en condiciones operativas.
Chuckle chuckle®
Oct 27th, 2011 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Damn well written, realistic description of the ”hard times” at ”Pradera del Ganso” anno 1982…….
” -In there they kept us, the bastards“, Allie spits defiantly. We are standing outside a tin roofed timber building that has a bell tower on it which might allow it to be used as a church in case somebody wanted to pray for redemption, but was considered so unlikely it was turned into a bar and social club for the majority who were pretty much certain they were in Hell anyway.
-How long were you in there Allie? I ask.
-Over two months, he replies.
-Terrible............terrible, I sympathise.
-Oh, it wasn't so bad, he sniffs.
-How do you mean?
-Food was good - all Argy stuff and they gave us plenty of Beer and fags.
-Oh, right, I answer then ask. ”But they wouldn't let you out would they and you couldn't get washed or use proper toilets and things“?
-Who told you that?
-It was in the newspapers.
-Load of bollocks, he sneers. ”They kept us in there at night because of the bloody English sending planes over to bomb the airfield but in the daytime we went back to our houses”.
-I thought your homes had been taken over by the Argentinians?
Some of them had. I had a couple of officers in my house but I liked them.
Real polite they were and they gave me all sorts of stuff……………”
www.wix.com/cusak1951/fantazum
I wonder why Kelpers are so quiet and not commenting about this. Hmmm
Oct 27th, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0silly argie plonkers.
Oct 27th, 2011 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still no kelpers commenting only a plonker from England.
Oct 27th, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@87 Think,
Oct 28th, 2011 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0You've posted it again, my dear Thinkus.
Do try to be more original. You are also telling lies when you say you now think its a“jolly good joke”.
When this charade started you were keen on telling the world how well the Argentine officers treated the civilian hostages. Maybe thought you had found a flaw in our steadfastness not to be Argentine.
Then you want to stereotype“as you women often do”
Of course, being a man, you will find it difficult to admit that you are wrong. Won't you?
Btw- if you think it was an insult because l dared to question whether you two understood British humour, then you have a very fragile ego indeed. Something like Mr Sensitivity himself, Forgetit.
Are all you Latin men so insecure as this?
(91) Isolde
Oct 28th, 2011 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still......, two diverse episodes on the same story, dearest……
Try to read the whole story again and then, maybe, that pretty little mind of yours will begin to understand it.
Besides; I “think” that most people would consider the word “Idiot” as an insult.
“67 lsolde Oct 25th, 2011 - 10:35 am
” .... You idiots will grasp at any straws to further your ridiculous claims.....”
Still no kelpers commenting only a plonker from Argentina lol
Oct 28th, 2011 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@92Think,
Oct 28th, 2011 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't you know Think”
ldiot=Malvinista.
Stands to reason, you lot are claiming something that:-
1)You do not own.
2)You have no moral or legal right to.
3)You never will own.
4)There a people already in rightful occupation of what you are claiming.
5)You do a lot of crying, whining etc, like a child because you cannot get what you want.
6)And now you are running around the playground trying to drum up support for your ridiculous claims.
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You insult me(you are prolific at it)& l will respond in kind.
l am somebody's dearest but not yours dahling.
l think that you should read the story again. You seem to like it.
l believe you only wish it were true, that we would welcome you with open arms & shower you with flowers & kisses.
But, unfortunately for you malvinistas, that is not true.
You are more likely to be met by a fusilade of hot lead if you dare to invade again.
But, after all that, have a nice day.☺ ☼
On the basis of the British invasion of Río de la Plata I have been able to establish that Argentina is in fact owned by Great Britain.
Oct 29th, 2011 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have been tabling a series of motions at the UN in order to officially establish this claim to Argentina. There is historical president for this, on the basis of an almost 200 year invasion of the Falkland Islands by a German and some British ex patriots, Argentina claims the Falkland Islands.
I can establish as historical fact that Río de la Plata was invaded by Britain and that this claim was never renounced, there is over 200 years of continued British claim to Argentina.
This makes all Argentines suject to British law and taxation. I am planning to get Buenos Aires renamed Port of Britain. Argentina will be called Bairdland, after the leader of British forces in the first occupation of Río de la Plata.
It is important to state that this did not happen just once - as in the Argentine claim to the Falklands........ but twice!
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