“Malvinas is a sacred cause for the Argentines used by the military with a spurious purpose: to remain in power” according to Juan Bautista ‘Tata’ Yoffre author of the recently launched book “1982” on the Falklands/Malvinas conflict. Read full article
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Argentina had no chance in the Falklands War because the poor souls it sent to fight, didn't want to fight over a group of Islands that had nothing to do with Argentina.Oct 29th, 2011 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
May 7th - the British Government extend the ‘total exclusion zone’ to within 12 miles of Argentina’s coastline.Oct 29th, 2011 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
3.30pm: French President, François Mitterrand, talks to his doctor; “ I had a difference of opinion to settle with the Iron Lady. What an impossible woman, that Thatcher! With her four nuclear submarines on mission in the southern Atlantic, she threatens to launch the atomic weapon against Argentina — unless I supply her with the secret codes that render deaf and blind the missiles we have sold to the Argentinians. Margaret has given me very precise instructions on the telephone …. I have been forced to yield. She has them now, the codes. If our customers find out that the French wreck the weapons they sell, it’s not going to reflect well on our exports.“
United Nations General Secretary Javier Perez de Cuellar puts forward a UN peace plan.
Another tosser with a book to sell.Oct 29th, 2011 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Reprint the 1982 version and perhaps write another book. Just what the world needs. Depressing stuff. Move on.Oct 29th, 2011 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
That story never made sense to me....There are no codes to stop a missile from working. If we had them. Exocets wouldn't have hit our ships.Oct 29th, 2011 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Holy Alliance classic, Thanks John Paul. Even God supports the Falkland Islander's.Oct 29th, 2011 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
this book writer thinks wrongly also has no any proofs to prove it.Oct 29th, 2011 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
maybe he wants to make any distractions....!!
It is a strange story - and never confirmed or denied. BUT I lifted it from Maggie's web site! AND rather a lot of their missiles failed to explode.Oct 29th, 2011 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
A coincidence ?
(5) ZzzzzzzetheOct 29th, 2011 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Of course that story never made sense to you.........
You are a Turnip!
“Embedded Software” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_software),
“Source Codes” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_software),
“Rootkits” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_software), and
are just myths believed only by………..................................................
Well……………………......… Just anyone with the slightest notion of computing.
Why on earth would anyone put such nasty things into sophisticated weapons systems ?
If you can’t trust your “Friendly Local Arms Dealer”; who can you trust…..?
@9 Think,Oct 29th, 2011 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Well that makes sense sr Think. l wouldn't sell sophisticated weapons to an unstable, unreliable half-cocked nation either without some form of a safety catch.
Why they may even try to use it against their supplier!
There is no such thing as an abort code built into a missile, for the every simple reason an adversary could exploit it to turn your weapons off. Its a convenient plot line in a movie but has no basis in reality.Oct 29th, 2011 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The Mitterand story is conspiracy bullshit. It comes from a book written by Mitterands Psychoanalyst, published conveniently after Mitterand's death.
And if we had these abort codes, then how come the Glamorgan or any one of the other ships were hit?
Exocets have a habit of failing to explode, its a complex fuze. You have a Semi-armour piercing warhead, that is designed to explode after penetrating the ship.
The beam on a typical warship is about 15-20 m. You have to explode the warhead 7-10 m after penetrating the side of the ship travelling at around 250 m/s. So you have to detect impact and 40 ms later detonate the warhead and your electronics have to keep working through shocks of 1000 g or more during impact. Its not a trivial problem.
Cher IsoldeOct 29th, 2011 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
When addressing me as Sr………, please remember to use that “little wiggly snake” I taught you all about…....
~ ~ ~ I luuuuuuv it ~ ~ ~
They have nuclear bombs?Oct 29th, 2011 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The pope was on their side?
LOL I do not believe this!
I have a much simpler explanation. Argentina had no chance in 1982 because Argentina were shit. Thirty years later the same is true.Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@14Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Looks like beefy boy forgot to take the meds!!
Oh well, i guess internets is serious business. HAH!!
What meds. Just a simple explanation that the likes of Marcos can identify with.Oct 29th, 2011 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Considering Argentina is making no progress I suggest that I may have hit the nail (for you Think) on the head.
So . . . The Pope supported an excommunicated nation against a Catholic nation - or was that all just so much tosh and history to a pragmatic Church?Oct 29th, 2011 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
9 Think: I think you've misread or misunderstood what i said or are just trolling for the sake of it.Oct 29th, 2011 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I never said rockets don't use computer software. I said if a code to disarm a weapon could be used in mid flight, And we had said codes as the french have stated. Why did the missiles hit our ships?
The french showed the SAS how to disable the missiles if they found any on missions. It is however impossible for a rival navy to disarm missiles while they're mid flight.
@12Think,Oct 29th, 2011 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The wriggly snake goes over the n, where is the n in sr? get your eyes checked Cher Think(or your glasses or both).
And as what Justin says is undoubtably right, your other ravings about codes are, well...........ravings.
l also love it(when you are wrong).
(19) IsoldeOct 29th, 2011 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The wriggly snake goes over the n, where is the n in sr?
You used the Spanish abreviation of Señor just because you are a lazy woman.
And as what Justin says is undoubtably right
You give Justin(hishead)Kuntz right just because you are a lazy woman.
Have a nice Weekend, you lazy woman.........
”l also love it(when you are wrong).”Oct 29th, 2011 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Quite often, then.
Thatcher was quite capable of useing a nuclear bomb.She had little regard for human life until 1984 when Paddy Mcgee and a few more showed her it isnt nice war.After that she beacame more ameanable to compromise.Argentina should always remember when dealing with the English elite is that the lives of the poor fools from the periphery who fight their wars are collateral damage but when you hit them where it matters they compromiseOct 29th, 2011 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
After that she beacame more ameanable to compromiseOct 29th, 2011 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
On 8 May 1987, at least eight members of the brigade launched an attack on the unmanned Loughgall RUC base. The IRA unit used the same tactics as it had done in the Birches attack. It destroyed a substantial part of the base with a 200lb bomb and raked the building with gunfire. However, as their attack was underway, the IRA unit was ambushed by a Special Air Service (SAS) unit. The SAS shot dead eight IRA members and a civilian who had accidentally driven into the ambush. This was the IRA's greatest loss of life in a single incident during its campaign. Six IRA members from a supporting unit managed to slip away.
Where is Anti-Fascist in this debate?Oct 29th, 2011 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I miss his violent ranting and gleeful threats to vaporise Buenos Aires.
We want our token chav back!
Hello, Redhoyt (2) Your comment also reminded me of President Mitterrand's then observation about Maggie: She has the mouth of Marilyn Monroe, and the eyes of Caligula.Oct 29th, 2011 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Stick itOct 29th, 2011 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
your point is?
My view is after Brighton Maggie became ever more ameanable to an agreement on the North Of Ireland.The IRA indeed suffer heavy losses in 87 but it didnt stop their lethal attacks on the CITY OF LONDON(always the key) such as the London stock exchange(90)Baltic exchange(92) a billion euro damage in those days,Bishopsgate st(93) and so on.The London government decided that a deal had to be done with the IRA as its very heart was being threatened.
Argentinas policy with regard to the Malvinas must continue to be as consistent, constant information especially in the Americas showing the Latin American people that tradeing with England is hurting their brothers.When it costs enough London will talk it always has done and always will protect ITS INTEREST.The collateral damage suffered by its hirelings are of no real consequence.
(26) O'GaraOct 29th, 2011 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Who better than an Irishman to coach us about the English psyche and psychos...
Meanwhile, back to the subject at hand - When Joffre speaks, or writes, pay attention. He has the ammunition to back-up his words.Oct 29th, 2011 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Think we know all about them.The Malvinas is important to Argentines but the suffereing endured by ireland under the English yolk has been terrible.But you know they were always a very compliant people who always did the bidding of the elite.These riots are maybe a signal that after all these centuries some of them are beginning to get a mind of their own.Oct 29th, 2011 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
If you think the riots were anything other than people just stealing stuff you clearly don't know the English as well as you think you do.Oct 29th, 2011 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
As for your theory on the islands.
1. Argentina isnt making it expensive for london.
2. Political suicide for any PM to even mention negotiations now. Won't happen.
it didnt stop their lethal attacks on the CITY OF LONDON(always the key) such as the London stock exchange(90)Baltic exchange(92) a billion euro damage in those days,Bishopsgate st(93) and so on.The London government decided that a deal had to be done with the IRA as its very heart was being threatened.Oct 29th, 2011 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You think so?
British spies subverted the IRA from within, leaving it in military ruin, and Irish Republicans - who want to end British rule in Northern Ireland and reunite the island - have largely shifted their weight to Sinn Féin and its peaceable, political efforts. And so the Dirty War provides a model for how to dismantle a terrorist organization. The trick is to not mind killing, and to expect dying.”
One of the more sobering facts in the article is how one spy, Scappaticci, the head of an assassination squad, kept his cover:
“The one preconception the IRA had is that if you are dirty - that is, if you have killed - then you cannot be an agent.” Scappaticci exploited that misapprehension. “His best protection,” Ingram continued, “was to keep killing.”
any how the war was lost before it started,remember that the argentine poplation is 60 percent of italian origin,the italians never won a war.Oct 29th, 2011 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
#32Oct 29th, 2011 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
It's a good job they never transfered the success of the City State, Rome, to the nation state, Italy, 2000 years later.
A winning Italy commanding the Mediterranean coastline and across to the Caucasus (oil) would have changed the political geography of the whole world.
Who better than an Irishman to coach us about the English psyche and psychos...Oct 29th, 2011 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
And who better than a Irishman to coach us about the IRA psyche and psychos...
Denis Donaldson, 55, was expelled from Sinn Fein, the political wing of the IRA, a week after he and two other men were cleared of spying inside the party's Stormont headquarters. .
His admission proves that the highest echelons of the Provisional Sinn Fein movement were infiltrated by British intelligence for years.
The case against Mr Donaldson, formerly Sinn Fein's head of administration, was dropped when the prosecution said it would not be in the public interest to pursue it.
Excellent analogy! Pax Romanus.....Pax Britannica.Oct 29th, 2011 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The first a memory the second a legacy. Both now just an echo. Their glory consigned to history and to the dusty shelves of academia.
The fate of all empires.
Move over Britain - there's a new guy on the block.
O garaOct 29th, 2011 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You know nothing about the Irish people, your dim and distant 5th cousin who migrated to South America 200 years ago doesn't give you a right to speak for the Irish either. We have suffered enough from self proclaimed Irish people claiming to know the history of Ireland or the British Isles better than the people who live here.
People like my grandparents, from Cork, people like the hundreds of thousands of Irish men and women who fought for the British Empire or served the war effort in two world wars. The Irish civil servants and soldiers who helped police, garrison and administer the British Empire.
What they did not have in common was a hatred of the British, they were British. Until Irish nationalism became a driving force, turning Irish Republicans (who were only a small minority at that time) into tools of the German war effort during WW1. It was a nationalism that grew in my grandparents time, resulting in them being burned out of their Cork farm house in 1932 for... being Protestant.
This is the Ireland people like O Gara like to speak about, the sectarian Ireland. When they speak of Ireland they ignore the fact that for almost 1000 years English has been spoken there, that people throughout Ireland trace their heritage back to the Old English, the Normans, the Scots and Welsh. No for the O Gara's of this world Ireland is a land populated by leprechauns and harp players, Gaelic speakers who hate Britain as much as O Gara hates England.
I have news for him, the Irish do not share his hatred of the English or the British. The only people who share his hatred of the British are the blood soaked republican terrorists hated both north and south of the border by the vast majority of the people of Ireland, the people of Ireland calling themselves Irish or British despise hate mongers.
In his warped little mind Ogara thinks he can speak for the Irish. The Irish want nothing to do with the Ogara's of this world, the fake Irish, the hate peddlers!
On the basis of the British invasion of Río de la Plata I have been able to establish that Argentina is in fact owned by Great Britain.Oct 29th, 2011 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I have been tabling a series of motions at the UN in order to officially establish this claim to Argentina. There is historical president for this, on the basis of an almost 200 year invasion of the Falkland Islands by a German and some British ex patriots, Argentina claims the Falkland Islands.
I can establish as historical fact that Río de la Plata was invaded by Britain and that this claim was never renounced, there is over 200 years of continued British claim to Argentina.
This makes all Argentines suject to British law and taxation. I am planning to get Buenos Aires renamed Port of Britain. Argentina will be called Bairdland, after the leader of British forces in the first occupation of Río de la Plata.
It is important to state that this did not happen just once - as in the Argentine claim to the Falklands - but twice!!
22 O garaOct 29th, 2011 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I've been reading your contributions with interest, every one of them filled with hate for the English. Like most of the Argentine posters you are just a sad bitter old man, a racist, a fanatic. It's quite sad to see people like you spending so much time pumping out hatred, lies and propaganda on a website dealing with news from the South Atlantic. You are a sad man.
31 Indeed in many ways you are right the English mi5 had infiltrated the IRA but equally the provos had devastated the City of London and that is all that matters at the end of the day.Oct 29th, 2011 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Uncle Joe what a wonderful piece you have proved all my arguments.All the poverty of the periphery terrified of the majority population if they were not perfectly controlled by the London elite to do their bidding just like you you poor pathetic fool.Ken Loach is a true english ANTI FASCIST I suggest you watch his film about Cork the Wind that shakes the Barley which shows the savage brutality of the English empire in all its savagery and how the Irish got rid of the colonialist power.
english has not been spoken in ireland for 1000 years indeed it was only spoken by a tiny minority ubntil english rule led to one of the most tragic famines in the history of mankind a true example of what English colonialism has given the world.
MORE THAN ONE MILLION DEAD A COUNTRY DECIMATED FOR OVER A CENTURY AND THREE MILLION WHO HAD TO EMIGREATE IN THE NEXT FIFTY YEARS.
Uncle Joe you are no anti fascist but the descendant of a brutal ferocious colonialist power who conduceted ethnic cleansing in my country.
Just like Borges had envisaged you are nothing but the mirror of thsoe you despise.In other words nothing but a savage.
38 spot on amigo I understand all about the English but totally wrong I am not Argentine or an old man or a racist thats what you are
@ 36 Anti-Fascist (#)Oct 29th, 2011 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You must suffer from Stocholm Syndrome lol.
But for the fun of educating you I offer the following concise timeline of Irish history.
1167-69 Arrival of Normans at Baginbun, Co. Wexford,
thus started 800 year struggle between English and Irish.
1171 Strongbow becomes king of Leinster. Arrival of Henry II, end of the Milesian kings;
thus began the political involvement of England in Ireland's affairs.
1166-1175 Reign of Rory O'Connor, Last native High King of Ireland
1235 Richard de Burgo conquered Connacht.
1258 Gallowglasses (mercenary soldiers) come to Ulster from Scotland
1264 Walter de Burgo was made Earl of Ulster
1272 The English had now conquered Ulster, east of Lough Neagh, in Meath,as well as most of Connacht and of Munster.
1315 After Battle of Bannockburn, Edward Bruce of Scotland invaded
Ireland but failed in his attempt to overthrow Norman Rule.
1318 Edward Bruce killed by the English, near Dundalk, after having failed to become the Ard Ri, so long sought after by the Irish.
1361 An edict bans pure-blooded from becoming mayors, baillifs,
officers of the king or clerygmen, serving the English.
1366 Statutes of Kilkenny forbade Irish/English marriages and preventing English to use Irish language, custom or laws.
1394 October. King Richard II, landed at Waterford, and marched up to Dublin.
1496 Line of the Pale at Clongowes. This was a small enclave around Dublin, which became the area of English rule.
1515 Anarchy in Ireland.
1534 Kildare rebellion.
1541 Henry VIII declares himself king of Ireland.
1547 Henry VIII dies, succeeded by the boy king Edward VI. England and Ireland were ruled by the senior nobility of England.
1562 Elizabethan Wars in Ireland.
1595 Rebellion of Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone.
1603 Accession of James 1. Surrender of Hugh O'Neill. Enforecement of English Law in Ireland.
1606 Settlement of Scots in Ards Peninsula. Land in six counties of Ulster consficated by English.
to be continued......lol
39 O garaOct 29th, 2011 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
why dont you piss of, and take your anti british hate with you,
we dont need a xucking wannaby irish twit on here acting like he knows something rather than how to wipe the shit from his arse,
so piss of,
xucking killers of innocent women and children, you are a xucking disgrace, piss of,
What you forget O'Gaga is that the IRA lost!Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Northern Ireland is still British.
And the IRA are powerless.
Morning all, while I'm at it - Falklands still British? Yes! Perrrrrfect :-)
39 O garaOct 29th, 2011 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Like all the Argentines on here you're just a hate monger. Your news media fills you will bullshit about the British on a daily basis and if it isn't enough you create your own bullshit. I think you should be thinking of your own history of 50,000 dead at the hands of a fascist military junta, or the millions of dead Amerindians slaughtered on a daily basis by your military and camponeros.
How about the ethic cleansing in the Conquest of the Desert? A military campaign directed mainly by General Julio Argentino Roca in the 1870s, which established Argentine dominance over Patagonia, which was inhabited by indigenous peoples, leaving more than 1.5 million indigenous dead and decimating the indigenous Amerindian population.
You are from a country that has had more Generals as head of government than civilians! Rather than attacking the British, you should be looking at yourselves first.
There are tens of thousands of families still searching for the body of their child in Argentina, not knowing if that child is alive or dead. The perpetrators never kept records, most of the bodies were dumped in the sea, thrown out of aircraft flown by your heroic air force. Argentina is a nation run by a bunch of fascistic cowards.
@ 41 briton (#)Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
xucking killers of innocent women and children, you are a xucking disgrace, piss of,
1658 The population of Ireland,estimated at 1,500,000, before Cromwell, was reduced by two-thirds, to 500,000, at Cromwell's death in 1658. Massacred by the English.
1672 Over 6,000 Irish boys and women sold as slaves since England gained control of Jamaica.
1740 The Forgotten Famine in which is estimated over 40,000 Irish starved to death because of English dominance over irish food production.
By 1848 through emigration and deaths by famine, Ireland's
population decreased by more than 2 million people (8.5 to 6.5). All caused by English monopoly of Ireland's economy and food production.
When thousands of Irish people were starving to death the English landlords were exporting Irish meat, dairy products and grain to England.
1879 More famine. Thousands of starving irish farmers evicted from their homes and left to starve to death in the gutter.
Irish National League founded followed by the 1879-82 Land War when desperate irish peasants fought armed English soldiers for the right to stay on their land and in their homes.
1916Easter Rising in Dublin. May 3-12
1919-21Irish War of Independence against Britain.
And despite this sorry history of English tyranny and murder in ireland Briton still expresses that famous English racist attitude to Ireland and its people denigrating them as sub human.
Old habits die hard eh Briton? Remember when English hotels had signs in their windows saying: No Blacks or Irish?
sorry chapsOct 29th, 2011 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
but ive seen what murderers and bombs can do to the innocent,
i just cant stand xucking fools idiots that sprout bullshit abouth things they know nothing about,
this is about the falklands, nothing to do with ireland,
@ 39 yes a great film, I watched it a month ago and it's still on youtubeOct 29th, 2011 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@ 43 those indigenous were chileans killing the tehuelches.
44 fantazum2011Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Like most indoctrinated fools, you know nothing or the Irish problem, other that what you read on line,
And I am not an English racist, you prick,
Ive never insulted the Irish on here or anywhere,
The only racist on these blogg are idiots like you, that peddle such total rubbish, you are others are so anti British, you only ever see one side of the coin,
If the British was hated so much by the irish, that you and and that other twit says,
Why is it you will find
Irish in almost every part of British society today,
From the top of the British government, down to the road sweepers,
So do me a favour, stop telling what you read, and learn the truth,
All this anti British over the Falklands, you idiots are obsessed with the Falklands, even to the extent of destroying Argentina, , and you call your selves civilised,,
For only children can you teach , the indoctrinated , it is far to late .
Oh yes....and it was an English Pope who sanctioned the English invasion of Ireland LOL.....Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
39 O gara + fantazum2011 (same person)Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You've established yourself as a racist and hate monger peddling false history.
Go back 1000+ years in British history and you can tell a story about the battles between Anglos and Celts. So too in Ireland you will find conflict between Danes and Celts, Normans and Celts, English and Irish, Irish and Scottish, Scottish and Irish. The history of Scotland, you will find battles between the Scots and Irish (the latter who colonised parts of Scotland), the Anglos and the Celts, the English and the Scottish. Likewise the Welsh. Go back to medival Ireland you will find stories of the massacres of English settlers and similar stories of the Irish. Clashes between Protestantism and Roman Catholicism , neither of which were the exclusive preserve of people of respectfully English or Irish decent. Ireland was flooded with English Catholics following the reformation.
Take a look at Irish politics, you can still see the names in Irish politicians, there are more anglo-Norman and English surnames than Irish. The anglo-Irish played a major part in the War of Independence on the Republican side. The first Irish President was a Protestant.
But none of this suits those who claim to be Irish on the basis of a 5th cousin and a 200 year old link via the family tree. They can be very inventive with their hatred of everything British. The entire history of Ireland changes into one homogeneous whole of the Irish struggle against the British oppressors.
But none of this suits O gara, I doubt he has ever been to Ireland, in fact I doubt he is Irish at all. He certainly believes in terrorism. Blowing London and Manchester up were great, yet what about the children and innocent civilians murdered? No these are of no concern to the fanatics of this world. I wouldn't be surprised if O Gara is up to his neck in the blood of the children of Argentina killed in the 70's and 80's under their fascist junta
Firstly let me remind ourselves we are on the Argentina news side of mercopress.Secondly may I tell those English collaborators Ihave no intention of not informing the public of the shameful behaviour of the english colonialists in my country during almost a millenium.Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Well done Briton you have clearly shown yourself up to being a racist hate filled little man.Unfortunately despite your proclaimed allegiance to the crown it seems the Kings English is well beyond your pathetic little mind.
Redhoyt The IRA certainly did not lose Martin Mcguiness today is the deputy first minister of the North of Ireland and finished third in the election to be president of Ireland.The notion of the IRA being powerless is pretty delusional I would have thought.
Karl101 well congratulations you wrore a lot of lines BUT DID IT MAKE ANY SENSE well i rest my case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Briton well lets call you english the Malvinas has everything to do with Ireland its the same thing the illegal occupation of another country by a colonial force
I too have seen what murderers and bombs can do so spare me your little notions of superiority
The unification of Ireland is as inevitable as the restoration of the malvinas to South America so I cannot really see the point of the debate...the Catholics are almost in a majority in North ireland anyway so the writing is on the wall.Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
50 O gara yeh yehOct 29th, 2011 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
and im the pope,
yeh yeh and im the pope,
let call you both indocrinated fools,
and you still wont get the british falklands, as long as hairs grow .
Forgotten famine?Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
How about the English famine that occurred at the same time as the Irish famine? yes everyone knows about the Irish famine, thanks to creative Republican propaganda. But the English famine, that witness entire towns and villages disappear from the English landscape, no one talks about that!!! I suggest you visit East Anglia!
To sum O Gara up - the entire history of the world can be blamed on the English. The more hate that can be generated against the English the sooner Argentina will be able to take ownership of a group of islands it has never owned (apart from 2 months of military occupation in 1982 carried out by a military fascist government up to its neck in the blood of 50,000 of its own people - mainly children - tortured and raped before their bodies were dumped into the South Atlantic, their families never to know their graves)!
Sick little prick O Gara. A coward, a nationalist fanatic, a fascist supporter of a murder machine called the Argentine junta and a racist!
neither have an interest,Oct 29th, 2011 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
both idiots and both experts about british history,
the world was built by the two twats, and hate jolly old england for stealing it from them,
51 fantazum2011Oct 30th, 2011 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The unification of Ireland is already underway, it's called the council of the isles -
More and more Irish people want unification with Britain and the Council of the Isles has been set up to bring together common interests for all the people of the British Isles, we are the same people.
Fake Irish hate mongers like O gara who pretend to be Irish and try to drum up racism, are hated by everyone here.
Uncle Joe you are the wicked little man.Really to lose the cool so badly on saturday night I really do think its time you had a little chat with yourselfOct 30th, 2011 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
anyway Joe I know nothing of a famine in East Anglia in the nineteenth century but its as Im telling you London doesnt give a fig about anywhere as long as it provides soldiers or sailors to sacrifice for the CITY.
But what I do know is that the population of Ireland in 1845 was over nine million but thanks to the savagery of English rule it had fallen to just over 4 in 50 years.Where was the Hague court then to try the savages who encouraged not allowed food exports out of my country while people starved
Who is the fascist around here.Little men with no intellect and cannot argue give others titles when their arguments have been decimated.Joe you cannot make a coherent argument hence your namecalling and pathetic efforts at argument.Go back to school little boy and try to speak English which at the moment you have such a poor command of
a nuclear defence program will go a long way in protecting the Argentine main land from murderers and thieves, Iraq, Pakistan, India, China, N Korea and Libya can serves us a great example of what happens to a nation when you defend the population from occupation and servitud, all nations with their own nuclear programs have trully attained independence and self determination, end the 100 years occupation of Islas Malvinas Argentinas save the penguins we have enought pirats murderes and thieves..Oct 30th, 2011 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
at least we have more in common with ireland,Oct 30th, 2011 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
than argentina will ever have with the falklands,
the truth is simple so that even indocrinated argies can understand, but just refuse to listen,
you have nothing on the falklands
you have never owned it, never run it, and the islanders want nothing to do with you, but because you are to yellow to come and take them, you spread lies and bullshit, to take them,
a thief is a thief , like it or not .
English But as i asked you in another thread can a citizen of Argentina or indeed the EU emigrate to the Malvinas yes or no?.If not you have carried out ethnic cleanseingOct 30th, 2011 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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57 Pirat-Hunter aka O Gara aka fantazum2011Oct 30th, 2011 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
While you country is dominated by fanatics the international community would never allow you to procure nuclear weaponry.
59 O gara
Anyone can migrate to the Falklands, no nationalities are bared. You however, would last about 5 seconds before you ended up on the next flight home in stitches and plaster cast! They don't like assholes. Indeed only one type of person they would reject assholes like you. Your beloved Falkland Islands don't want you O Gara.
BTW you need to work out which country you belong too son.
Control yourself Joe you are in danger of something quite sinister.But if we ever did meet little Joe the mirror image of Adolf I assure smacks in the face wouldnt do you much good.In Ireland we dont take crap from little hypocritical little readers of the Guardian or most certainly from planters in Cork.Have a good luck little boy at the Wind that shakes the Barley and see what would happen to you if you dared to be violent with a real Irishman and not a descendant of planters like there is in the Malvinas.Oct 30th, 2011 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I am relaiably told ha ha ha what a pathetic pelotudo you are
59 O gara (#)Oct 30th, 2011 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
“English” But as I asked you in another thread
Their is no English blogger [or is their ]]
Did you know that Gladstone fought very much for the Irish cause,
There were over 80 Irish MPs at Westminster,
Millions of British poor also suffered greatly over the centuries,
And millions died,, if you don’t learn from the past, then you have no future,
Argentina therefore falls straight into this very trap, you want to steal something you never owned,
You are not wanted or welcome,
And, if you ever did get the Falklands, then Argentina would suffer the same as other dictators in another mans country that is not wanted,
is the great Argentina willing to put up with bloodshed on there own doorstep, after all, you cant have it both ways,
As you so conveniently put it,
Brits out of Ireland,, ,Argies out of the Falklands,, you would only be repeating what you and others condemn your selves, now that not to clever is it .
62 O garaOct 30th, 2011 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Control yourself Joe you are in danger of something quite sinister
I've seen the film and it's not an accurate portrayal of the War of Independence. For starters it only showed one side. The Republicans committed a lot of cold blooded murders and atrocities. Films that claim to be historical but only show one side and in a holier than thou light can only be described as propaganda.
Iluminados Por El Fuego is a film you should watch, you brave military officers and NCO, the conscripts swept up from the poorest barros Buenos Aires of and you brainless public blaming them for the lost war.
This is what mindless nationalism does to a nation, creates hate. The kind of hate we see here every day pumped out by your mindless patriots, towards a people who want nothing to do with you.
In Ireland you've never been to Ireland, if you had you wouldn't open your mouth on the subject. You'd know better.
63 Indeed Gladstone because of his lust for power allied himself to the Irish home rule party so he could be prime minister.Oct 30th, 2011 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Millions of British poor also suffered greatly over centuries
absolutely poor fellow its what I am trying to teach you .The City of London doestn care about Scots or Irish or Welsh or Cornish or East Anglians or whatever they indeed want millions to be poor so they would be willing to fight for England or Britain or whatever title they need to inspire you to die to maintain their position.
I dont want Brits out of Ireland indeed her we have now a decent solution where we can live in peace.Where the English recognize they did Ethnic cleanseing and we recognize the planters cans be thrown out.It has to be the same in the Malvinas
O garaOct 30th, 2011 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The City of London blar blar blar. Conspiracy theory.
I study conspiracy fact. Here is a fact = financial elites and their banking and corporate entities exist all over the world, they exploit people everywhere. They are not an exclusive preserve of the English and any suggestion that they are is mindless racism and blind stupidity.
Poor so they would be willing to fight for “England or ”Britain///Oct 30th, 2011 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
this also included people from all over the world then, including Argentina,
I don’t want Brits out of Ireland
That’s a bit hypercritical is it not,
English recognize they did Ethnic cleansing
And did not most of the world, including Argentina,
And we recognize the planters cans be thrown out
And that also includes most of the world, and Argentina,
If that’s not anti English then what is,
The British, in the past did no more or no less than the rest of the world in part,
And today we the British, have left the past behind and working with nations for peace, then we come to Argentina, who despite her promises still live and operate from the 18th century do they not .
If you condemn one, you must condemn all,
Common sense really ..
(65) O'GaraOct 30th, 2011 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
As I said in comment (26) .....:
Who better than an Irishman to coach us about the English psyche and psychos...
Excellent coaching......, smoked some psychos out........., I can see............
Joe i thought someone who proclaimed himself Anti Fascist would be a real Ken Loach fan? But I guess juveniles can take some or leave some.Fact is Borges has you to perfection Joe.Oct 30th, 2011 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Illuminados por el Fuego? or Veronico Cruz both excellent films which have shown the military dictatorship of the Proceso Nacional” to be savages who have no concern whatsoever for the citizens of their country.Here we agree
67 fact is I dont want Britons out of Ireland.Indeed now after the Good Friday agreement we dont need anyone to go anywhere but to live in peace together.And to cap it all we are doing it just come over to Dublin any weekend to see.
What you have to recognize is the Malvinas solution will have to be the same respect for all
As I said in comment (26)Oct 30th, 2011 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Think;Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Always remember we have to be determined determined like the Pumas with the Brits”
One minute your in DublinOct 30th, 2011 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Next in Argentina,
You claim to be Irish, then decent of Irish, or Argentinean,
And now you are a pumas,
Wish you would make your mind up,
The British by the way, consist of an awful lot of tribes,
72 I never said I was anywhere.I did say I was Irish, any other claims are all yours or Joes or some other boludo.Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
so now the distraction is over get down to the discussion or leave like the other schoolboys who have no answer amd merely indulge in notions of military grandour who everyday seem more distant
O'gaga the IRA's clearly stated aim was the reunification of Ireland. They didn't get it. They lost.Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Dress it up as you will, it still comes out the same way.
Fantasy - quite correct for a change, Northern Ireland becoming part of Eire has as much chance as the Falklands becoming part of Argentina. NONE!
The one thing that the IRA did manage to achieve was that the Government of Eire dropped its claim to Northern Ireland. Well done lads. 3 decades of petty terrorism, mostly against your own people, and you achieved what Britain had failed to do.
The IRA got Stormont closed, and the peace process got it reopened. Another big win for the IRA.
O'gaga - you talk through your rear!
coming from a fool and an indocrinated one,Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
that the pot calling the kettle.
Well chaps, have we got all of the bile out of our systems? Very interesting to read the comments from both sides.Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
But you, Think are not adding anything, just stirring the boys up.
(somewhat like l do, sometimes! fun, isn't it?).
lnteresting as lreland's history is(and it IS interesting), this has got very little to do with Argentina's attempts to take OUR lslands.
You just have to remember, Think & others:-
This is our land, not yours.
btw- never been told l was lazy before, sr Think. Could it be that you are not willing to admit that you are wrong?
perhaps think can take over now,Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
he let the cat out of the bag, now he can catch it,
74 Sinn Feins stated aim is indeed the unification of Ireland which it still intends to acheive.Irishpeople are totally happy at that.Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Remember The leader of the IRA is now deputy first minister of the North Of Ireland which is dificult for the likes of you to accept but nevertheless reality.I know this is hard as London gives you so little support when this happens after indoctrinateing you otherwise over decades
75 attempts to appear reasonable well truth hurts you are just a bigot ehhh?
(74) HoytOct 30th, 2011 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The Irish experience (as well as Hong Kong) are predecessors of the outcome the much smaller and unimportant Malvinas issue will end with.
a bigot who said that,Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
not [eye] said the man who claims not to be anyone,
as for the leader of the IRA ,you like other lies you are saying that
an IRA terrorist is deputy minister
or is the truth a bit more to simple for you,
he is a member of, Sinn Féin) a left wing, Irish republican political party in Ireland
And an Irish man,
it is impossable to be reasonable , to someone who exepts nothing but his own ideals .
Correct and right Think but the lessons for Argentina are clear.Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
1The English were terrified of China so they agreed withe Chinese plan with as much dignity as possible.
2The English looked down on the Irish with distain but as the Citys costs got higher the easier it was to negotiate
3Argentina must make it impossible for the English/Occupying Malvinenses do anything, build up its own military power and London will soon fall in line
listen to this irish song for Maggie Thatcher hahahaOct 30th, 2011 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
76 lsolde it seems was correct,Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
think says,,you jump on, he sits back and bobs your uncle,
no way hosay,
if you and the argie plonkers belive that,
then that is what you will live with,
when did the truth ever get in the way,
you just carry on with think and the rest of the gang,
and the malvinas will be in your hands by monday,
and the falklands will remain british,
now go to sleep in the knowledge that you won the malvinas,
and we will just have to stick with good old british falklands .
Senoras y Señores I invite you to look at ”Britons last two posts and suggest we shoudl show him all due care as it appears Dementioa of some form is attacking his brainOct 30th, 2011 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
You have seen nothing yet. The euro kleptocrats have just made a faustian pact with China which will cost them more than their limited imaginations could possibly visualise and will result in the dissolution of the euro dream. All for political ambition driven by ego. Increible!Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
”Joffre argues Argentina had no chance of defeating Britain since Margaret Thatcher was a member of the ‘Holy Alliance’ (together with President Ronald Reagan and Pope John Paul II) intent in bringing down the Soviet Union by destabilizing Poland.”
Joffre makes a good point if one considers his words in the present context.
America is no friend to Britain now and although I cannot see any future armed conflict between Britain and Argentina over the Falklands it would be very difficult for Britain should such a conflict re-occur.
Who would support the UK? How would it raise sufficient military resources - especially naval - and how would it raise the funding for such a venture?
Even in the unlikely event of oil rigs and facilities around the Islands being attacked by some extreme nationalist group, Britain would be very tested to provide the ships and aircraft necessary to provide 24 hour protection.
But of course I speak hypothetically as such a scenario is unimaginable.
(81) O'GaraOct 30th, 2011 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
There ain’t much we can do against the current English Oil prospection campaign but it seems that nature is giving us a hand here…….
Desire Petroleum just announced that the Ocean Guardian rig will be probably leaving the area in a few months time……
No more fools money to spend on dry holes, it seems……….
With Oil of the equation, it will be much easier for us to get the English to fall in line………..
Senoras y Señores I invite you to look at ”Britons last two postsOct 30th, 2011 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
mostly in answer to o gara,
who claims to be nobody,
dementa, claimed by an unknown irishman who claimes to be nobody,
who can follow the leader, without thinking about it,
who is but boring us to sleep,
grow up little one, and go to sleep and dream of your malvinas
( 76) IsoldeOct 30th, 2011 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
You are lazy alright….
Just look at what happened before.
Your pretty little mind was beginning to have some independent thought about missiles and software……………...
But then a man came along with some (mostly wrong or outdated) technical information, told you that it was impossible........... and you gave up.
Jupppppppppppp.................... Lazy, lazy woman.
#79 - Think - Northern Ireland remains British. Have you ever been? If you have then you'll know as well as I that the chances of the north joining the south are somewhat akin to a snowball's chance in hell!Oct 30th, 2011 - 03:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
O'Gaga - having a couple of terrorists sitting in a local parliament is not much to show for the effort. However you cut it - YOU LOST!
Hong Kong was a seperate issue. The Island belonged to us and China never disputed that. The New Territories were leased from them. They didn't wish to renew the lease and that was up to them. The island was not worth it on its own, so we gave it up.
If you two fools see any similarity in that then you're both dafter than I thought!
It is sufficient to talk to any Buenos Aires cabdriver to understand
that the Argentine people know that the Falkland Islands will not be
“recovered” by Argentina..... the “malign lie” consists of claiming that Argentina will recover the Islands if it adopts a “tough” policy. Most politicians
from both major political parties, as well many professional diplomats, engage in this type of lie, ... It proposes to increase
the British costs of remaining in the Falklands, without taking
account of the fact that in order to increase the British costs one must
augment the Argentine costs, and without realizing that Britain has
infinitely more economic, diplomatic and military resources than
Argentina. There is no way of making Britain “spend more” without
Argentina herself spending more as well. And the increased British
costs will always represent a much smaller percentage of total British
resources, than the increased Argentine costs vis-à-vis total Argentine
Carlos Escude - an intelligent Argie!
O'Gaga & Think - you are living a fantasy !
We have no doubts about our sovereignty. And we still have more than enough muscle to back that belief up!
Think - at last you have admited that there is nothing you can do about the oil exploration. The reason you can do nothing is that you have no legal argument. This is probably because the Falkalnd Islands are not soverignty territory of your country and never will be, they are (or part of them) not under lease and the population wish to remain British.Oct 30th, 2011 - 07:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Regarding the OG. A new rig enters the game in 2012 but I still think the OG may stay on sight. An operator only need to announce a new drilling slot prior to spud of the final contracted drill and the contract with Diamond is open ended as theoptic future options were unnumbered. Diamond are doing the senible thing and making sure they have secured business for a rig.
The next two months are going to be very interesting as the appraisal of sealion tells us how much beautiful crude is there to be produced :-)
cleansing of Protestants along the border areas or the swathes of Protestants from the west bank of Londonderry or Belfast who have had to move because of an orchestrated campaign by a terrorist organisation against them on the grounds of their religion and culture.Oct 30th, 2011 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
(89) HoytOct 30th, 2011 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Always good to re-read Escude’s old paper………..
He was one of the principal exponents of the “Realistic Resignation” line in regard to Argentinean Foreign policy on Malvinas during the 90’s.
As we all know now, (Escudé included) it didn’t work.
Where is Mr. Escudé today?
Well………., he's getting older and keeps himself out of the limelight but, in all his public appearances, he supports the current Argentinean Government and its Foreign policy on Malvinas 100%.
Carlos Escude - an intelligent Argie........... indeed!
The reason why Argentina can’t do much against British Oil prospection is because of their military occupation of the South Atlantic.
You Brits are attempting to bully your way into South-American resources.
Rest assured that the whole of South America is reading the writing on the wall and we all will act accordingly.
May love and laughter light your days,Oct 30th, 2011 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
and warm your heart and home.
May good and faithful friends be yours,
wherever you may roam.
May peace and plenty bless your world
with joy that long endures.
May all life's passing seasons
bring the best to you and yours! (Irish Blessing).
From one who is English, Irish, Spanish, Scots and Lord knows what else descent. All those people. Good gene pool.
There ain't no pure-blood Englishman. And the Falklands are ours.
@ O garaOct 30th, 2011 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
McGuinness accused of being British spy
The IRA certainly did not lose Martin Mcguiness today is the deputy first minister of the North of Ireland and finished third in the election to be president of Ireland.The notion of the IRA being powerless is pretty delusional I would have thought.
I tell those English collaborators Ihave no intention of not informing the public of the shameful behaviour of the english colonialists
Revealed: The full chilling story of how Gerry Adams lied to protect his paedophile brother - and helped him work with children
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388110/McGuinness-accused-British-spy.html
I too have seen what murderers and bombs can do so spare me your little notions of superiority
The small basement exhibition room was packed with tourists from the UK and abroad who took the force of the blast.
At least two of the victims were children and are being treated in St Bartholomew's Hospital.
At the Cavehill Road bomb, the victims were two women and a 14-year-old schoolboy.
Of the 130 injured, 77 were women or children out shopping in the city centre. One police officer at the scene recalled the events for the BBC series Provos in 1997.
If not you have carried out ethnic cleanseing
IRA death squads target innocent protestant families for ethnic cleansing in Belfast
The Treatment of Protestants in the Irish Republic
Strayed far from the subject. Spleens, isn't it?Oct 30th, 2011 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Anyway, let your Guinness breath awhile before you drink it
ha ha ha now we see Junta your intellectual level The Daily MailOct 30th, 2011 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
surely one of the poorest newspapers on the planet.It makes Pravda or Clarin look positvely neutral.
I never said the IRA were a collection of Saints far from it but they were extremely effective against a huge military apparatus.
the seeds for their existence was in the apartheid regieme in the North of Ireland where Irish”people didnt have one man one vote.
To suggest that the provo campaign failed on these terms is simply laughable .
what exists in North of Ireland today is to all intents and purposes joint sovereigntity with the Dublin government haveing just as much input as London and many of the IRA leaders in government.You can call that loseing of you like but from where it started i would call it a just solution.
When Scotland gose independent then we will talk about snowball chances in hell as the U?K collapses.
There is no doubt the IRA committed terrible crimes but compared to what the empire has done in my country a mere drop in the ocean.My sense of injustice(not superiority) is against the London elite not the English people who on the whole are a decent lot but like all Saxons easily led
Think - then why have Brazil been complicit in the drilling (the rig passed through as do supply ships)? Why is Panama allowing a Panama flagged rig to operate in the FI if they support you? No one is acting in your favour. Oil out of the equation? The evidence suggests otherwise.Oct 30th, 2011 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
You don't have a military option but why have you not made a legal challenge?
The truth is Think you have hope and nothing more. You cannot do anything as you have no mandate to do anything. Your supporters are happy to say one thing and do another.
Meanwhile those living in the real world are seeing the start of what will be a new oil province and before too long we will see the eventual conclusion to sealion - FI oil flowing to market.
MMMMMMMM Think Beef has given me an idea.there are a lot of guys in a place called Armagh who have much expertise in dismantling English structures rather quickly.They arent doing much at the moment,perhaps your embassy in Dublin should contact them.There are a lot of jobs in Buenos Aires at the moment and a lot of unemployment here.I imagine these guys would love a good pensionable job in dismantlingOct 30th, 2011 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
extremely effective against a huge military apparatusOct 30th, 2011 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
1990: Two Australian tourists were mistakenly gunned down in Roermond, in the Netherlands
1993: Child killed in Warrington bomb attack
A young boy has died and at least 50 people have been injured in two bomb blasts close to the heart of a busy shopping centre.
IRA Bomb Kills Nun, 3 Police Officers in Ulster
July 25, 1990|From Times Wire ServicesARMAGH, Northern Ireland — A 1,000-pound bomb detonated by terrorists hiding near a rural road in this border city exploded Tuesday, killing a Roman Catholic nun and three police officers, authorities said.
When an IRA bomb blew up in his hand when he was just 14, Stephen Menary was so horrifically injured that he could have been forgiven for giving up on life.
During his adult life Dessie Grew was a highly active member of the Irish National Liberation Army and the IRA. Grew had served four terms of imprisonment for republican activity at both Portlaoise Prison and Long Kesh prior to his final release in June 1988. At the time of his death, Grew was wanted for questioning by German authorities who had issued a warrant for his arrest in connection with the killing of an RAF corporal and his baby daughter
@88Think,Oct 30th, 2011 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
lf you say so sr Think. l'll admit that l am lazy if you will admit to being wrong. And you are, indeed wrong and you know that you are wrong. So come on Herr Think, are you man enough?
Stick itOct 30th, 2011 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Well where do i start over 800 years of oppression since you insist
Cromwells to hell or to Connacht where ethnic cleansing was invented.
a whole series of famines in the eigtheenth and nineteenth centuries while the Empire exported food out of Ireland to feed its armies.
culminateing in the Great hunger where over 1 million died and 160 years later the population hasnt recovered.
The penal laws where Catholic priests were hunted down and murdered like dogs
The forced use of the English language withGaelic banned
The black and Tans history of savagery that would make Astis blush.
the Dublin bobmings where the London elites military forces killed 28 people on the streets.
In monaghan on the same day 14 dead at the hands of the English military apparatus
Listen you can name one or two events but the abuse of the English in my country runs into libraries
OGara - what English structure are you suggesting be dismantled?Oct 30th, 2011 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
beef I would say those Armagh boys werent in a habit of telling anyone in advance but ill leave it to your imagination and maybe the Argentine ambassador in DublinOct 30th, 2011 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Listen you can name one or two eventsOct 30th, 2011 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
nice try O gara
The victims included people from many different backgrounds: Protestants, Catholics, a Mormon teenager, five other teenagers, six children, a woman pregnant with twins, two Spanish tourists, and other tourists on a day trip from the Republic of Ireland
Bradford was shot dead - by the IRA on 14 November 1981 in a community centre in Finaghy, Belfast, while hosting a political surgery. Kenneth Campbell, the 29 year old Protestant caretaker in the centre, was also shot dead in the attack.
A smile and a personality that attracted friends – that’s how Colin Parry OBE remembers his son Tim, who was only 12 when he was seriously injured by an.IRA bomb in Warrington.as he shopped for football shorts.
Tim died five days later from injuries sustained in the blast which also killed three-year-old.Johnathan Ball.and left 56 people injured.
Gordon Hamilton Fairley DM, FRCP (20 April 1930 – 23 October 1975) was a professor of medical oncology. Born and raised in Australia, he moved to the United Kingdom where he studied and worked. He was killed by an IRA bomb
Stick itOct 30th, 2011 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
every victim of war is a tragedy for that family.Its a disaster.
Its caused mostly by agressive nations attacking peaceful ones.There has never in the history of the planet been a more violent agressive force than the City of London
do you really want me to start nameing the millions the English caused in Ireland
beef I would say those Armagh boys werent in a habit of telling anyone in advanceOct 30th, 2011 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Although Denis Donaldson was not among the star moles in the republican movement - perhaps somewhere in the top 20, intelligence sources suggested - he would have been given help from his handlers if he had sought it.
do you really want me to start nameing the millions the English caused in Ireland
go on then,but its easier for me than you :-)))
Seriouisly guys lets stop feeding this troll, he can not be reasoned with. His racism is quite apparent. He blames the English for everything in the world.Oct 30th, 2011 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
He defiantly is not Irish, has no Irish blood, it's a persona he has created to play on sectarianism and the raw emotions of 30 years of Irish terrorism.
He is a conspiracy theorist, who believes there is a concerted conspiracy by a city to wage war on the world. His limited intelligence, does not enable him to figure out what the difference is between a statement of fact and a hate filled rant based on a his hate of a particular nationality is.
I have sent all his details to the Lord Mayor of the City of London, as the man who presides over this evil Empire, I am sure O Gara will disappear soon.
Analysis: IRA admitted that years of carnage among civilians damaged its causeOct 30th, 2011 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Thank you for notifying us of this enemy alien calling himself O Gara, we will send the boys around immediately.Oct 30th, 2011 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Joint sovereignty in Northern Ireland - lol - funny, like it :-) I suspect that you are not living in the real world :-)Oct 30th, 2011 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
THink - youtube! Come one !
As for Escude - we all get older Think, whether we get wiser is a moot point.
178 years down - another 178 to go :-)
Argentina is responsible for most of the problems in Latin America, Operation Condor was run out of Argentina, the murder of tens of thousands of dissidents throughout Latin America was orchestrated out of Buenos Aires. Argentina is the Vatican's centre of power in Latin America.Oct 30th, 2011 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
(100) Cmon Isolde…………….Oct 30th, 2011 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Even a woman’s brain could see the logic of including some “Extra” codes in the military hardware you sell to others….................:
”10 lsolde Oct 29th, 2011 Well that makes sense sr Think. l wouldn't sell sophisticated weapons to an unstable, unreliable half-cocked nation either without some form of a safety catch.”
But then, a certain lazy Squatterette didn’t dare to disavow Mr. Justin(hishead)Kuntz and risk his wrath.
I quote some of his “technical” arguments:
1) ”There is no such thing as an abort code built into a missile, for the every simple reason an adversary could exploit it to turn your weapons off.” he said…………..
- What is stopping the producer of any sophisticated weapons system to include malvare codes into what they sell to third countries….. I ask?
2) ”You have to explode the warhead 7-10 m after penetrating the side of the ship travelling at around 250 m/s. So you have to detect impact and 40 ms later detonate the warhead and your electronics have to keep working through shocks of 1000 g or more during impact. Its not a trivial problem.” He says…………………
-You don’t have to do anything my dear …. You have electronic components that do monitor time and distance in nanoseconds and nanometers. 1000 g or more during impact is nothing; this is what those things are designed and constructed for.
I could, in the same spirit, explain to you the intricate mechanics and physics involved in the operation of a hairdryer or a curler my dear Isolde.
I assure you: “It’s not a trivial problem.”
Ahhhhhh Uncle Joe looking at the mirror again are we.Well guys the City and their stoogees wont get rid of a paddy very easily i assure you.But anyway have had enough of you lot for the moment have a nice dayOct 30th, 2011 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
OGara - I am unaware of any English structures in Argentina. Which one do you suggest get deconstructed?Oct 30th, 2011 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Personally I blame Argentina for everything that goes wrong in Latin America.Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Well O Gara have a nice day in the City: I'd guess you work in Public Relations, or the Diplomatic Corps or the Irish Tourist Board. They must be glad to have you.Oct 30th, 2011 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
- What is stopping the producer of any sophisticated weapons system to include malvare codes into what they sell to third countries….. I ask?Oct 30th, 2011 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The people buying the weapons. No military(native or foreign) will buy missiles off a supplier that could be shut down and rendered useless.
If there was such a code for the Exocets 1. they wouldn't have hit our ships and 2. no other nation would ever buy the missile again.
Neither of these things happened.
Also the Exocet is a fire and forget weapon as far as i've read, It has no communication with the ship after launch.
105 O gara ----- You really are a laugh a minute keep it dear boy I cant wait to wake up tomorrow to have another good laugh at a so called Paddy.Oct 30th, 2011 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Ogara appears to want Irishmen to go to Argentina to deconstruct some English structure. I don't know of a single English structure in Argentina. So it appears he want to create a job for a Paddy by getting then to deconstruct a non-existent entity. Yep, that is indicative of the Irish economic model :-)Oct 30th, 2011 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
He can't even identify the structure he wants his yokel brothers to deconstruct. Looks like him and el Thicko (who thinks no oil has been found in the FI, but then accuses us of stealing the resources that he says don't exist) are really peas from the same pod.
Sound like a pair of chronic underachievers.
Good afternoon, I am in the mood for a good song :-)Oct 30th, 2011 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Go on home British pirates, go on home.
Have you got no f homes of your own...
Marcos - perhaps you would like to listen to Buenos Aires by The Macc Lads?Oct 30th, 2011 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
DESIRE Petroleum shares fell in London after the company announced Ocean Guardian may leave the South Atlantic early next yearOct 30th, 2011 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Go on home British pirates, go on home...
May Marcos, may. A new rig enters the adventure next year and we await the final CPR from RKH, yummy!!!! I think the OG will stay in the FI for a while yet???Oct 30th, 2011 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Perhaps you would like a bit of Back in Control by Sabaton?
@120Oct 30th, 2011 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I too am in the mood for a good song.
Don't cry for us, Argentina
Would you like a dildo?
There's no way we can do that
But we can give you a bayonet.
And as for fortune and as for fame
They're not for you.
All through your wild days
Your mad existence
And take a hike.
Beef, O.G. is heading to a Turkish scrap yard like all your HMS's (you Have More Scrap metal for Turkey), please return the stolen Panamanian flag and stop by in mainland South America ports on your final journey back to far away Europe...for a good laugh of course.Oct 30th, 2011 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You better ask our US partners where the OG will be heading after it has completed its work in the FI. I think we will see a rig slot RNS prior to the spud of the next well after 14/10-09. One thing is certain is that it will continue to drill and is not heading to the scrap yard yet :-)Oct 30th, 2011 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Once it does leave the FI it will freely and happily call into South American ports much innthe same way that it did on its way south. Nice to know we can reply in our South American partners.
Nice to know we can reply in our South American partners.Oct 30th, 2011 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Here is the support, the love of yours South american partners,
Panama flag, Brazil ports and supply ships.Oct 30th, 2011 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
That is what I call real support. What would you call it?
superflous mistakesOct 30th, 2011 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
who give you supply ships??
ogara is at it again, the past, anything to get away from the Falklands question,Oct 30th, 2011 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Yes we need to stop feeding these two,
he follows thinks orders, who is nothing more than a troll leader,
Throws crumbs to the kids, and sits back and watches the commotion
This blogg is abt the British Falklands that they lost,
And it will always be the British Falklands,
End off .
The supply ships are provided by our contractors and have been moving to and from the South American mainland since February 2010 bringing supplies at will. No restrictions, no permits, just good business and partnership.Oct 30th, 2011 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Keep your meaningless words, I prefer real support ;-)
I guess that is what makes us different, you talk about doing things and we actually do what we say.
Martin Mcguinness was an effective agent for peace in Ireland and continues that good work to this day. He would have made an excellent President of Eire.Oct 30th, 2011 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
it seems mr camaron is giving the go ahead for ships to carry guns,Oct 30th, 2011 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
to help against pirates , so armed men may well be seen in the south atlantic, to stop being approached by argie pirates,
contractors supply ships moving to and from SAm, with what flag??Oct 30th, 2011 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Moving to Argentina surely not
Chile may be and Brasil
your support is merely for business or money
our support is really in the diplomatic way, where this dispute is now taking place
we do things, argentinians ports and any kind of argentinian enterprisse cannot participate or help in your oil extraction in Argentina, and we also have withdrawn of any kind of agreement in oil extraction with you. Its not only talks.
So by withdrawing or tearing up of agreements is what you callOct 30th, 2011 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Well in that case we had better avoid you at all costs, just encase you
Throw other bits of paper at us,
Sorry, you can talk till your blue in the face,
The Falklands are British, until they choose otherwise,
Malen - it is for money, that is called business and why would we want to do business with Argentina? We don't want to or need to, Argentina is superfluous. The world has become globalised through business and not what you decide to call diplomacy.Oct 30th, 2011 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I am glad that you withdrew from oil exploration agreements as it means more opportunities for the likes of me :-)
This discussion was not about doing business with Argentina it was simply indicating that the support you claim from your neighbours is anything but support. They are happy to placate you with words but when they see the dollar they are quite happy to do business and ignore your verbal nonsense.
All your actions have done is cut you out of any money and your neighbours have seized the opportunity to make a quick buck at your expense. Taking action is meant to hurt the other side and not shoot yourself in the foot! Well done :-)
Argentine enterprise; now that is worth a laugh!
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jAwAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA39&lpg=PA39&dq=missile+deactivation+codes+do+not+exist&source=bl&ots=XpgEHpiLAJ&sig=aKKISTGYKXDh7439YlzjHDhS_0Y&hl=en&ei=C9KuSr7xHsml4QbH24z6Bw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q&f=falseOct 30th, 2011 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Missile deactivation codes don't exist. We're talking about the Exocet in 1982. The complex digitally controled fuzes didn't emerge till the 1990s. The first I can think of is the Hard Target Smart Fuze tested in 1995. Back in 1982, fuzing was a simple contact plus delay.
The ability to reliably sense impact, then detonate the warhead after a small delay, was not a trivial problem then and still isn't today. A simple example is a quartz timer, its a solid state device and inherently hard against 'g' but there is a problem. Its a piezoelectric device so when you apply a strain rate, its characteristics change, so its ability to measure time changes when it experiences unpredictable high 'g' impact. So while there are devices able to accurately measure time, there aren't too many that can reliably measure time under high 'g' loads.
So back in 1982, the fuzes then in use were simple electro-mechanical devices and not something amenable to a deactivation code. Not mention the kinetic energy of a 1500 lb missile travelling at M 0.85 and the hazard of burning fuel. That of itself makes deactivating the fuze useless.
There is another problem, Exocet flies at 1-2 m above the water, it comes over the radar horizon at around 6 km. If you're lucky a surveillance radar might catch it about 24 s before impact. A Type 965 radar turned at 8-10 rpm, and the 2 or 3 paints you need to establish a track takes around 12-15 s, reducing your response time further. This is why the RN relied on Electronic Support Measures to identify an Exocet attack.
However, the technical problems pale into insignificance because Exocet is fire and forget and doesn't have a datalink ie you can't talk to it once it is launched.
it will be the most expensive oil of the world if you need so much supply and such a complicated way of extraction and putting it on a vessel.Oct 30th, 2011 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
lets see if you can answer quickly
contract supply ships with what flag??
and those contract ships move to chile dont they??
Malen - what is complicated about FPSO? Done all around the world and already planned in the FI. The oil will go straight from under the sea bed onto a tanker via the FPSO and straight to refinery :-) such an operation is viable to a 43m find at an oil price of $30 per barrel. Care to back up your claims? As FPSO is the method of choice these days then this will be cheaper than you imagine. Offshore mean no land ownership issues or mineral rights issues so costs come down further.Oct 30th, 2011 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The supply ships are predominatly flagged in Norway and Denmark and that beautiful rig is flagged in Panama and the crews of those ships have been bringing welcome business to Brazil.
Malen, time to stop digging yourself into a new hole. Your argument is already full of holes. We look forward to more business dealings with the progressive nations in the South American continent. Argentina is happy to take actions that result in lost trade, sound perfectly sensible to me.
FPSO here we go :-)
there you go malen your home work for the weekOct 30th, 2011 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
How Do FPSOs Work
Why is it there are no Argentine women posting on here? Because claiming the Falklands is a man thing, about dominance over other human begins. People who want nothing to do with Argentina. It is like trying to rape the entire population of another country and it takes the exact same mentality in order to believe it's right. These are just sad little men, with sad little lives, no wife, no girlfriend, but plenty of wet dreams... over the Falkland Islands.Oct 30th, 2011 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
How sad is that?
@ 141 briton?Oct 30th, 2011 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
UNASUR whinging again !Oct 31st, 2011 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
142 xbarilox /internet rat,Oct 31st, 2011 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
you want something,
Well, l'll try again. crappy computer program, Mercopress.Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
This is getting wildly off track but your condescending attitude begs an answer.
a certain lazy squatterette didn't dare to disavow Justin Kuntz & risk his wrath
l have no reason todisavow what Justin said as l agree with ALL that he says about the Falklands & Argentina.
l dare to do what l like(within reason as far as my partner is concerned!) & fear no ones wrath. As for the technical workings of an Exocet missile, l neither know or care. Do you know sr Think?
l do know that l can make a marginal farm or plantation become successful & profitable. l can strip down & rebuild a ship's diesel engine & forward & reverse gearbox, l can drive heavy trucks & large agricultural equipment. l have done this & more while keeping my partner happy & raising children.How about you sr condescending Think? What can you do apart from spreading lies about an independent group of lslands off the coast of your silly country?
My! Isolde,Oct 31st, 2011 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
under other circumstances you would certainly be the girl for me!
All these fuzz for 7 missiles ??Oct 31st, 2011 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
(145) IsoldeOct 31st, 2011 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Chuckle chuckle®...., that was easy.
Where’s your British humor now, dearest?
Lighten up!!! Don’t be such a sour old maid!
Since the beginning you have been condescendent with me, my Country, my people , my culture, my history, my convictions and my opinions.
No offense Cher Isolde but…………. repairing a ships diesel engine gearbox requires a bit more than holding the chief mechanic’s wrench and keeping his ale lukewarm between your…………… fine little fingers.
What I can do?........... Well….…
Let’s keep that a secret for the time being…………….
:-)))))Oct 31st, 2011 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
148 - 149Oct 31st, 2011 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Condescending, bigoted fucking assholes.
(150) RachelOct 31st, 2011 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
A Kelper lady by any chance?
If I'd only known what part I played on an RN diving team in Falklands waters back in the 50's...shale from the sea bottom for Admiralty chartwork update. It was a peaceful area then. The only incident was when a porpoise tried to push my deep-sea clad colleague over. I refuse to believe that the cetacean was sent from Argentina; but then I don't know what that the regime of that country was then. (Just kidding)Oct 31st, 2011 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Animal Warfare? :-)Oct 31st, 2011 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Argentina was, once, world leader in Animal Warfare................Oct 31st, 2011 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Everyone with a rank higher than conscript was an Animal...........
@154Oct 31st, 2011 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You changed your tune thicko,you reckoned they were all gents in their treatment of the Falklanders at Goose green
@154 a little bit harsh Think, don't you think?Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@150Rachel,Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Thank you for your support. lf you follow these discussions you will see that Think & others like him are stuck in the 18th century. l am surprised that they have a woman president.
Our Think admits that he has been married three times so l'd say that that speaks for itself. He is extremely smug.
You're lying again dear Thinkus. l have never been condescending to you , your opinions etc. However if you choose to believe that, then thats your problem.
Actually l have contempt for you malvinistas as a whole because you are not only wrong, you know that you are wrong.
At one time Think, l thought that although an enemy, you were a gentleman. l can see now that l was wrong in that. Thats good as the lines are not now blurred.
l shouldn't have lost my temper with you because:-
1) you are not worth it.
2) l have given you too much information about me & my family.
l won't counter your arguements with more information.
Yes Think, what can you do?
(155)Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I didn’t change any tune………….
That was “Allie”version, the “Animal loving” Kelper in Fantazum’s story.
”-Oh, it wasn't so bad, he sniffs.
-How do you mean?
-Food was good - all Argy stuff and they gave us plenty of Beer and fags.
-Oh, right, I answer then ask. ”But they wouldn't let you out would they and you couldn't get washed or use proper toilets and things“?
-Who told you that?
-It was in the newspapers.
-Load of bollocks, he sneers. ”They kept us in there at night because of the bloody English sending planes over to bomb the airfield but in the daytime we went back to our houses”.
-I thought your homes had been taken over by the Argentinians?
Some of them had. I had a couple of officers in my house but I liked them. Real polite they were and they gave me all sorts of stuff”
I apologize to the Animals........
I didn’t “change any tune”………….Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
That was “Allie”version, the “Animal loving” Kelper in Fantazum’s story
So the Argie army that invaded the Falklands were animals? and deserved to be kicked off the Falklands?
@158 so much for the reconciliation of all Argentines. When were you allowed to come back from exile? in 84?Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Isolde You said:l can strip down & rebuild a ship's diesel engine & forward & reverse gearbox, l can drive heavy trucks & large agricultural equipment. l have done this & more while keeping my partner happyOct 31st, 2011 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
l have given you too much information about me
Yeppp, you did señorita :-)
(160) Artillero601Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Everyone with a rank higher than “conscript” WAS an Animal.
WAS an Animal
Reconciliation is going on.....
Based in Memory and Justice.......
That l did, Marcos, that l did. l'll give you the final piece. l am not a señorita.Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@ MarcosOct 31st, 2011 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
how subtle you are to steer the debate around to your hobby
163 Ok Señora then. You did what? jump in the cold water or wear that nice suit?Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Holy Alliance’Oct 31st, 2011 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Poor old chuckle
Feeling the heat, from a lady,
With chuckle and marcos and malen
It seems their holy alliances are turning into-
A right old rout??
@146 GeoffWard2,Nov 01st, 2011 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
l rarely do the block these days but that insufferable chauvanist prig made my blood boil with his holier than thou smugness.
Luckily l had calmed down in minutes as l was about to post my Mechanical & Marine Engineering Certificates online(with my photo & name on them!)as proof to sir smugness. That would have been a big wooops!! My better half is still laughing.
Thanks for your kind comment, Geoff. You made me laugh too, when l realised how volatile l had become.
@ Isolde. From a little information they will try to construct a false persona and bait you to correct it in order to gain more information. Let them think what they want. If you do not respect a person, their opinion is of no value. : )Nov 01st, 2011 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@162Nov 01st, 2011 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Specify the time frame before Peron? during Almirante Rojas? when Milo came back? Semana Santa '87?
Have you seen the video? ( you told me you don't see my videos) anyways, I'm with Rico on all he says !!
# 161, Lol Marcos....qhdp :)Nov 01st, 2011 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Do the Argentine delusions of persecution know no bounds, now even the Pope was against them... I mean we all know God is an Englishman but still.Nov 01st, 2011 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
:-)Nov 01st, 2011 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
trueNov 01st, 2011 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
but the argies will never go for it ?
@170 & @ 172 Ustedes jugaban a las bolitas juntos? :-))Nov 01st, 2011 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Che Pomi WTF is wrong with Tejanos, another drunk Tejano presidente?Nov 01st, 2011 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
What do you think?
First time I write something here, and the last one too.Nov 02nd, 2011 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I saw this forum become a field of anger and controversies between Falklanders and Argentines.
Please believe me, We Are Not Enemies.
For the Argentines: please dont forget the real enemy: Great Britain.
The target must be London, not Port Stanley.
In some point of view, they are victims of the British Empire as we do.
They have the right to exist. As we do in 1810 and 1816.
They are British, in the same way Kipling was a British born in India.
Last but not least. The family of one of my grandmothers come from Falklands to Patagonia in the end of the 19th. century. They were shepperds of Scott origin leaving the domain of the FIC.
So, Why are we fighting between us? Meanwhile, perfid Albion smile.
Perhaps we must talk and negotiate. Between us.
You didn't become independent in 1810 - you declared for Ferdinand, which is not the same thing.Nov 02nd, 2011 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
1810 – May 22nd, a meeting of notables in Buenos Aires is held to decide the future of the Viceroyalty. Delegates deny recognition of the Council of Regency of Spain and the Indies, declare for the King and form a ‘junta’. The ‘Primera Junta’ is recognised by Buenos Aires but not by all the other provinces of the Viceroyalty resulting in conflict.
The capital of the Viceroyalty is moved to Montevideo where the Governor, Fransisco Javier de Elio, declares himself as the new Viceroy of the Rio de la Plata.
Justin / Dab - I've had to sort out your own page, the comment was longer than the text :-)
@168ElaineB,Nov 02nd, 2011 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Thanks for your support, Elaine. l won't lose it like that again. l suppose we all need to let off steam once in a while. You give good advice.
@175Nov 02nd, 2011 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Actually I liked the speech, he is trying to be cool (new approach?) due to his numbers plummeting since he announced his intentions to run. He admits he is not a good debater but will see, don't count him out.
What was holy in 1982 has apparently lost its virginity at Obama's hands plus world crisis... and btw #124 Conqueror, iro the second line of your song, do you think your mother will donate hers?Nov 02nd, 2011 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
179, I guess you know your people better than me, however he sounds like he had a few Quilmes before the speech :-)Nov 02nd, 2011 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@181Nov 02nd, 2011 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
If that helps him to get re elected , why not ! :-)
Corona es muy parecida a la Quilmes, o no?
elected, perdon.Nov 02nd, 2011 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
#181....UH boluuu...what a nice thing...a cold and freeze Quilmes rigtht now !!Nov 02nd, 2011 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Argentine's around the world demand UN and NATO to take action against the occupation of Islas Malvinas Argentina or to allow for a nuclear defence program to be build in Argentina to protect the main land from any farther occupation and theft of land in Argentina. That simple.Nov 02nd, 2011 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
That simpleNov 02nd, 2011 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
you certainly are, got bullied on the special needs bus again?
185, Yep, with a fugazzeta better :-)Nov 02nd, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
182 Artillero601 Es cuestion de gustos, I like corona too... con limon.
Una fugazza de Banchero, cuadradita y sin queso + una Bahia Creek roja pa mi........Nov 02nd, 2011 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
In spite that i dont share in absolut the ideology of this guy, in fact, in some oportunities hes comments respecting others issues were really despisable, i value so much the fact that he investigated and wrote a book, i will buy it, because i investigate also about the history of the islands, and the conflict of 1982.Nov 02nd, 2011 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I already knew some of the things he says, but i didn't know that thatcher joined the holy alliance, anyway, it was obvious that u. s. a was going to help the u. k., it wasn't going to allow that a dictatorship wins a war to one the main members of the security councill. There is surelly so much interesting information in that book, some day i will writte a book also, but i need to investigate more and more, it will take years.
There is something that i never recognized in this forum, but actually i have always thought it, if the war wouden't have happened, or if argentina had won the war, we wouldn't have recovered the democracy in 1983, surelly the dictatorship would have lasted much more years, it' very hard to recognize, but unortunatelly i think it's true, i know that i am not saying nothing new, but i need to say it, because the argentine democracy oughts so much to our veterans.
#186 you must know all about special needs, tell us is it a family thing??Nov 02nd, 2011 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
188 Think, Just in case you can not make to La Boca tonight here is a picture.Nov 02nd, 2011 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Se me hace agua la Boca!
#191 #188Nov 03rd, 2011 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Estimados....i know you´re talking about premier league pizzas....but my choice is........Las Cuartetas + Quilmes, just one block of Obelisco.
Las Cuartetas!! excellent choice ..... Inmortales anyone?Nov 03rd, 2011 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Pirat[e] Hunter (comment #185):Nov 04th, 2011 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
With just conventional explosives in the mix, Fabricaciones Militares managed to do enormous damage to the city of Rio Tercero, and you want to give them access to nuclear weapons? If that happens, the Argentineans will be the main victims. When will they learn that their armed forces are goobers who can't be trusted to manage anything more dangerous than a piece of string?