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Argentina describes Prince Williams Falklands’ deployment as “a provocative act”
Argentina complained Friday that Prince William's six-week mission as a rescue pilot in the Falkland Islands, the object of a 1982 British-Argentine war, is “a provocative act.” Read full article
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Nov 12th, 2011 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.returnthemarbles.com/results-pt.php?&page=1825&limit=25
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This web site has contadictory title which says
Nov 12th, 2011 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0MercoPress,South Atlantic News Agency,Montevideo(no adress)
but has too many extreme Malvinas articles,
MercoPress name is portrayed to Mercosur ? however these islands
is not the Mercosur member,then I think that this web site must
change it's name or not to publish any Malvinas articles.
The 'Malvinas' do not exist. An Argentine fantasy.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0the Falkland Islands, on the other hand, do exist ... and maybe one day they will be invited to join MERCOSUR.
Wouldn't that be fun :-)
Oh, that victim mentality.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brugo Marco? -0 is he a relation of yours Marcos?
Nov 12th, 2011 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some FACTS for you Mr Marco:
You say no armed conflict threat in the region?
FACTS:
1 Arg AirForce planes fly deliberatley towards the islands about every 4 weeks or so to test the Islands Defence Alertstatus - as soon as your radars detect a typhoon scramble from Mount Pleasant your airforce turns around and retreats.
2 Arg Naval vessesl from time to time harass fishing vessels in our zone who happen to be near the edge of your aras.
3Arg Naval vessels harass fishing vessels passing through waters near Argentina- with International right of passage - enroute to Montevideo.
4- Arg Naval vessels harass civilian ships heading west through the Internations waterway of the Straits of Magellan despite there being an international agreement on the rights of free passage lodged with the International maritime bureau at the UN.
Shall I go on my Marcos?
As regards your stupid remarks about a certain helicopter lilot being sent here next year:
1-Search and rescue is hardly an armed military mission!!
2- It is a routine posting - all that squadron aircrews do a rotation service through the Islands, usually several times! So if he continues in his career he is likley to be back here again later.
3- How will you react IF there is a critically ill Arg tourist on a cruise vessel needing urgent evacuation and the Prince happens to be the duty pilot?
Answer me please any Argentine- would you prefer your citizen to die instead?
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Nov 12th, 2011 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When does Argentina not consider everything about the Falklands as a provocative act. Anyway who cares they are Powerless, Toothless & unable to anything about it but cry & run around pretending to be peace loving victims who just happen to be conducting an illegal blockade (An act of War) that has lead to the deaths of many an innocent unarmed sailor.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A provocative act indeed.... it has provoked a nice little bit of impotent rage amongst the diegos....
Nov 12th, 2011 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yawn.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sending a search and rescue pilot....“a provocative act” .
Nov 12th, 2011 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wait till we hit you with a wet tissue ,then you will have something to scream about. !
So it's a routine posting.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It just happens to be routine to use islands 8000 miles from home (costly), rather than say...the Shetlands.
For the high profile officer.
And Argentina is destined to re-act negatively.
And Willy has huge influence.
And there are plenty of islands to train on, elsewhere.
(how will he get there)
Will the inevitable Argentine negative reaction affect UK relations, reputation and trade...even a little bit...say a few million in trade, as this sticks in memories for years, and re-enforces negative views, and not just Argentinian views.
I'd say so.
A very obvious choice for Willy.
So which is more important to Willy, negative unofficial effects on 'his' people, or, keeping the royal profile highlighted, for his own benefit.
Is it THAT essential to train in that one particular location?
Plenty of other places to train, not that he HAS to go elsewhere, his choice, its not like it'll cost HIM.
But will it benefit the royals?
@2 Good point! It should be called “Malvinas Press”.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 vote with your feet and piss off then
Nov 12th, 2011 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0for a nation which places so much hysterical nationalism and self important macho pride around the issue, Argentina sure does spend inordinate amounts of time screaming like a complete and utter coward whenever anything happens on the islands, and shows no shame in fleeing in tears to its “allies” (i.e. a nation who vaguely supported the concept of britain and Argentina negotiating) to save them.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0maybe the memories of 15000 Argentines getting humiliated by a 5000 string British force from the other side of the globe still sting too deep, so Argentina now has an obsessive fear of britain which almost matches their obsessive hatred and jealousy of us.
seriously Argentina, grow a pair and stop whining already. you are already an impotent joke on the world stage so why compound your humiliation by acting like such spineless wretches?
Great Britain has the Royal family and you poor buggers have the 'not so Royal Fernández de Kirchners...' BUT her mother is Ofelia Esther Wilhelm (of German heritage) so could be related to Princess Alice of Battenberg ,Williams grandfathers family....could be funny !
Nov 12th, 2011 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look I keep saying the only way to resolve this is to hit them hard. When one of their ships messes with one of ours that is an act of piracy so stop messing about just blow the buggers out of the water its as simple as that. We know they send out aircraft to test the response, don't turn on the radar let them fly into our airspace then knock the buggers out of the air as they fly over. We have the capability to do both these things, then the twats will have something to really moan about. When they mess with any of our ships on the high sea that can be seen as an act of aggression and their is nothing at all to stop one of our ships from sinking theirs, same as they fly into our airspace that can be seen as an act of aggression. So stop mucking about and let the buggers have it.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Arguello named as the next Argentina ambassador in Washington” following the deployment of another Argentinian onto UK HOME SOIL!
Nov 12th, 2011 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK counters, and declares this a DEFCON 2 provocation.
Really, you do have to laugh.
“Is it THAT essential to train in that one particular location?”
Nov 12th, 2011 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All RAF SAR pilots train there. It is standard British military practice to train all over the world. Much like like Harry is currently in the US training to use an attack helicopter.
As for cost effectiveness.. The only extra cost would be the flight there and back.
Mr Brugo Marco,
Nov 12th, 2011 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you worry about that horse face future King of England, he is an idiot like his father and if I was a British in Malvinas I will very worried to be rescued by an idiot who can't keep his voicemail private...
one more of a string of unilateral “aggressive decisions” from the UK
Nov 12th, 2011 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one more of a string of unilateral “aggressive decisions” from the UK
from an uneducated indoctrinated fools , this is so childish, but then what do you expect from children, and the argie bloggers on here throwing insults just prove their childish education,
but you just carry on TALKING and the world will carry on LAUGHING .
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P/S England has just scored a goal against Spain,
Come on England .
Absolutely pathetic from the Argentines, once again. Dont they see how stupid they look by acting in such a way? They are just adding to the vast portfolio of evidence that proves that Argentina are the laughing stock of the international community.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beware of the search and rescue pilot!
Once again, I dont know whether to laugh or shake my head at the Argentine antics.
“It is a provocative act that displays Britain's military presence in an area where there is no armed conflict” said Sebastian Brugo Marco, the Argentine foreign ministry's director for the Malvinas Desk.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would the desk that Marco's brother has to use be the one with no legs?
I think it must be as the Argenians 'do not have a leg to stand on' with their 'arguments'
19 Marcos Alejandro
Nov 12th, 2011 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The beauty of it is, you're not here, and we don't have to pay any attention to your worthless and ill- formed opinions. The deployment of a search and rescue pilot who happens to be a member of the royal family has absolutely nothing to do with you.
I have attended several road traffic accidents where the search and rescue teams were outstanding. I have no reason to think that Flt Lt Wales would be anything else. We are very lucky to have them. Keep up the good work chaps and chapesses.
Came On People, the overseas UK territories, non-flyght is comming soon!!!
Nov 12th, 2011 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have 133 OS UK T to choice! and C C!!
#19 Marcos
Nov 12th, 2011 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prince William is trained to the highest standard of Her Majesty's Airforce. Anyone trained that high will be good at their job. I would much rather be rescued by him than by some half-trained peasant flying a helicopter which is falling apart from Argentina.
Every time la Princessa de Plastica(or her minions) moans in various forums around the world about the Falklands, is a provocative act.
Nov 12th, 2011 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25 only a truly foolish RG would get into an RG helicopter.... normal SAR involves getting plucked from the sea by a helicopter ... the RG method involves getting thrown into the sea from a helicopter......
Nov 12th, 2011 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its all a big act, the Argies love the royals
Nov 12th, 2011 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BODA REAL: EL RATING EN ARGENTINA
In Argentina, only two chose to air channels covering the royal wedding, The Thirteen and America . Between 6 and 8 in the morning, led Constitution channel strip with an average of 6.4 while the Palermo station showed an audience of 1.3. With its regular programs, Channel 7 was 1.2; Telefe , 0.3, Channel 9 , 1.2.
Meanwhile, cable channels, very early, modify their programs and were devoted in full to the marriage of the British Crown. Among averaged 10.6.
@28
Nov 12th, 2011 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as i said before they are obsessed with us. they have been their entire history, and their religious obsession with the Falklands is eternally tied to a gigantic envy of britain. while their politicians and the brain dead nationalists on the streets and the Internet scream and whine in self righteous outrage against britain, the next moment their all slavering to witness the bloody royal wedding.
whats even more pathetic is that the obsession is completely one sided. the British people could not give a flying fuck about Argentina, other than the few dozen Brits online and a tiny handful of politicians and diplomats.
still i guess when your nation's entire history is so mediocre and bereft of importance or achievement, such obsessions are understandable
24 Kipling (
Nov 13th, 2011 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Came On People, the overseas UK territories,
You have 133 OS UK T to choice
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133 would you like to name them
[Without looking at your indoctrinated school book]
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Please argie bloggers think of this scenario,
Argie ship 500 miles of Argentina, 200 miles of the Falklands,
The ship is on trouble , injured on board and some need imidiate medical attention,
The RAF, Search & rescue arrive,
What happens next,
1, will the Argies be very grateful of being rescued,
2, say your very present here is very provocative
And wont be tolerated, go home
Interesting, what old boy ??
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Well Braedon you are filled with your own self importance.i suppose its needed when one has a low level of intelligence
Nov 13th, 2011 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0ls that the best that you can do, O gara? Pathetic!
Nov 13th, 2011 - 05:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0So this is a provocative act.....OK then, so how are you going to respond to this provocation? winge and bitch about it is all I suspect....
Nov 13th, 2011 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Big. Bloody. Deal.
The deployment of a Search and Rescue pilot, when ALL S&R pilots rotate through the Falklands is routine and there shouldn't be any exceptions because of who they are. He should be treated like all young men who CHOOSE to serve their country.
Nov 13th, 2011 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is making itself look like a bunch of spoiled children by screaming about this so-called “provocative military act”.
As to the rest, today is Remembrance Sunday, so I suggest people learn to have some RESPECT.
If there was a prize for the most provocative big white smile and the most provocative measured handshake, would this young man be in the running?
Nov 13th, 2011 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, sorry, I forgot, he is a trained killer. Perhaps he has the most provocative killing-style - you know, a royal bow and perhaps a pirrouette, before the despatch. No, too French.
So perhaps this hybrid individual - 'half diletante, half terminator' - is not 'provocation personified'.
I guess a greater perceived provocation would be a visit to the Falkland Islands war graves by Baroness Thatcher. But I am at ease with that also.
For a country so easily provoked, all that's needed is to occasionally shake a pointy stick.
Geoff, I just saw him at the Remembrance Day service and parade. He looked fairly benign. : )
Nov 13th, 2011 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be honest, the Argentine government would be much wiser to ignore the fact that he is going to The Falklands.
Dear People, please, I recommend you, first, Buenos Aires City has more tha 100 english schools, one of the most famous english schools http://www.sanandres.esc.edu.ar/
Nov 13th, 2011 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please again, when you talk about Argentina, it is without near to 1% of the reality. Another things, you have welsh schools, french, germany, korian, finland, portugues, until ucranian schools.
I don't know what point you are trying to make. Kipling, but I am not surprised there are so many English schools in Buenos Aires because being fluent in English opens up many more job opportunities for Argentines.
Nov 13th, 2011 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kipling, St Andrews is a Scots school, that means Scottish. Not English. You can't even talk about Argentina yourself “without near to 1% of the reality”.
Nov 13th, 2011 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, and when are you going to show us which UN Resolutions state that the Falklands should rightfully be Argentine territory, and which UN Resolutions call for the UK to negotiate the transfer of the Falklands to Argentina.
See #49, #52 and #60 here:
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/11/11/prince-william-to-be-posted-to-the-falklands-on-tour-of-duty-with-the-raf
Siiiii. http://www.clarin.com/opinion/Cristina-dolar-Malvinas_0_590341054.html
Nov 13th, 2011 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 038 ElaineB “being fluent in English opens up many more job opportunities for Argentines”
Nov 13th, 2011 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Being fluent in several languages opens up many more job opportunities for British.
@41
Nov 13th, 2011 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0English is Now the Mandated International Language of Aviation
What are the reasons why so many professional people are currently attending Business English courses? The answer to this question is simple. English is the language for doing International Business.
However if you want to clean pools or mow lawn's Spanish is the way to go
English ??????
Nov 13th, 2011 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the one of the popular languages of India where has most users in the world who using up to invade the World starting from UK !!
@41 Absolutely. Several languages is a must, rather than an asset, in this multi-cultural, multi-linguistic, working world.
Nov 13th, 2011 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was relaying the point made by Argentines that having English opens up many more job opportunities within Argentina.
English is the first international language and spanish is the second international language. (This does not mean the most widely spoken).
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/06/23/spanish-world-s-second-language-in-international-communication-and-growing
Nov 13th, 2011 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine and J.A. Roberts, I wanted to show that Argentina has british school no for language and, just for culture. For many immigration from UK, Argentina has more than 100 british culture schools in Buenos Aires. As my ancetors, they played rugby, golf, bridge, cricket, etc. For this reason, we know characteristics of your culture as others cultures. However, for you kind of expreessions, we know that you don´t know anyyhing about our culture.
Nov 13th, 2011 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0** 46 K.
Nov 13th, 2011 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they decieve theirself !! just empty consolation !!
@46 Not true Kipling. I have spent 6 to 8 months of each of the last 4 years in Argentina and Chile (with short spells in other Latam countries), so I have an understanding of your country. I have friends there, have worked there and have lived in an apartment in BsAs for months at a time, living and working with the lovely locals. Argentina and Chile feel like home from home when I am there and, yes, I understand a lot about your culture and history. It took the first year to get into the mind-set of the different countries but now I slip back easily into the different cultures.
Nov 13th, 2011 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure the English schools have imported elements of English life and culture to your country, just as all the other immigrants brought parts of their cultures to your country.
I would just say that if you really want to understand the English you should come over and live and work here (if you can) rather than rely on stereotypes and anecdotes (and ,God forbid, youtube videos). I wouldn't, say, visit The Gaucho restaurant in Piccadilly and claim to have eaten an Argentine meal and experienced Argentine culture.
You would be most welcome to visit. : )
46 Kipling , your point is not as interesting as the point of the pencil.
Nov 13th, 2011 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0geo, should you not be on active service with the spectre patrol.
the one of the popular languages of India where has most users in the world who using up to invade the World starting from UK !!
Nov 13th, 2011 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0haha you daft racist Geo
For Gods sake stop moaning on about how provocative it is that Prince William has been drafted to DO HIS JOB as a rescue pilot to the Falkland Islands. Its his job, nothing more, nothing less. It was the same for his Uncle (who also flew helicopters) during the Falklands war in 1982. It was his job too...how strange is that? If anyone is trying to be 'provocative' its Argentina, they are so paranoid that they are now saying that rescue missions are an act of war...really!
Nov 13th, 2011 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0English is the official language of India.
Nov 13th, 2011 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 051 the arriving of your prince is a lot of propaganda for the uk press watch in google how many posts....even in your press you take up some “sick argies” post of forums as part of an article...........nothing more silly and irrelevant
Nov 13th, 2011 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in arg appears less this new, football colombia next week is our problem economy,etc
The four most important languages for business are, English, Mandarin, Arabic and Hindi. Perhaps Portuguese would be useful for doing business in South America?
Nov 13th, 2011 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ All Argentines:
Nov 14th, 2011 - 05:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really don't have a dog in this fight just some observations.
I'm sorry to say that perhaps you all should attend the English schools in B.A. and brush-up on your World History. At the height of the British Empire they controlled between 1/4 to 1/3 of the world. They did this with no more than 150,ooo men under arms at any one time. That was a remarkable feat.
You should never under estimate the intelligence, toughness and tanacity of the British armed forces and the British people.
Your leaders are making complete asses out of themselves; especially this latest flap over HRH Prince William.
If your leaders are stupid enough to start another war the Brits will simply kick your asses again! No brag, just facts.
I agree that it would have served the Argentine government better to have remained silent about this posting.
Nov 14th, 2011 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0The posting is harmless and the more the Argentine government tries to make it something it isn't, the more they undermine their credibility.
Let's hope that when Prince Harry qualifies on his advanced firing range course in the USA he brings his Apache Attack Helicopter to the Falklands, just to see his brother of course!
Nov 14th, 2011 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0That will have Marco and his brother flying around the ceiling.
Who cares if they find it provocative or not. l certainly don't.
Nov 14th, 2011 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0They must have very fragile egos. l guess it burns them up to know 1)that they are wrong,
2)have been fed a pack of lies which took mostly all of them in,
3) that for all their whining & moaning, they will never get the Falklands.
@ Kipling
Nov 14th, 2011 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“However, for you kind of expreessions, we know that you don´t know anyyhing about our culture.”
I my case you are simply incorrect. I grew up in Argentina, and I am painfully aware of what passes for Argentine “culture”...
Another oddity about the English Language, it is the de facto national language of Belgium (the de jure languages are French, Flemish and German).
Nov 14th, 2011 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a good reason for this: in the northern half of the country Flemish is the prevalant language and the people there would be insulted if you spoke to them in French, whereas the opposite is true in the south. Hence, unless you know that the person you're speaking to is Flemish or a Walloon, everyone speaks English to avoid giving offence.
I can still remember the incongruity of cinema trip in Brussels, where the film was in English with French and Flemish subtitles.
J.A.
Nov 14th, 2011 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess this is just the usual misunderstanding between the parts of speech. Very understandable in the English language, but perhaps it does not translate so well in parts of South America.
You can be part of a CULTURE, but may still be UNCULTURED.
The world of football is ' a culture' but it would not be classed as high culture - quite the reverse, whereas fine art and opera might.
The same applies to many aspiring nations, where 'culture' is a state of being that has to be earned over centuries through many subtleties of learned practice.
#2 ed & others: a) Mercopress is free to publish whatever their editors want; b) I don't think that the Duke's visit could be considered a 'provocation', especially in these times of peace. However, should my country decide to grab the islands back, I feel that the Ministry of War would be very upset if Cristina suggests something of the sort. Finally, I imagine that unless our government are able to do something to change anything, they should better keep their traps shut until they are.
Nov 14th, 2011 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British political response to argentines [provocative actions ]
Nov 14th, 2011 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The comments provoked fury at Westminster, with one MP calling them ‘deeply misguided’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060332/Argentina-accuses-Britain-acting-aggressively-posting-Prince-William-Falklands.html#ixzz1dhPbQy2a
British politicians warned Argentina to stop meddling in British affairs
Shadow Defence Secretary Jim Murphy said: ‘It is for the UK and UK only to decide which Forces to send overseas, when and where.’
Tory MP Patrick Mercer, added: ‘For the life of me, I cannot understand why this is provocative. It is certainly not as provocative as invading the Falkland Islands in 1982.
And fellow Tory MP Rory Stewart, who has also served in the army, said the comments were ‘unwise and deeply misguided’.
He added: ‘There cannot be provocative action on British soil.
you have been warned,
we have constantly stated, that if you keep pushing and pushing
Argentina may well get, what it least expected, and will suffer the consequences’ for decades to come,it may well prove better to except the status quo than be sent running back to the gutter with white flags between their legs, and the world laughing [Again]
Justa thought .
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@ed
Nov 15th, 2011 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly. Even though the Falkland Islands is by far the smallest member of the Southwestern Atlantic nations, it is to it that Mercopress has dedicated, also by far, the largest number of articles. Mercopress does come from Mercosur, though it's clear that Mercopress's focus is quite another.
The press give their readers what they want. Every article about TFIs gets a huge response, so they print more. (More hits = more advertising revenue). It is the same with all newspapers. The Daild Mail philosophy is to give the readers 'a hate a day'. It caters to the terminally disgruntled, armchair racists and misogynist readers. The Express caters for conspiracy theorists, especially anything involving the death of Diana. The Guardian hates the establishment and draws the middle-aged champagne socialists etc.
Nov 15th, 2011 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Press is a business and they have to maintain a readership. They don't manipulate how people think, they see how the readers think and give them what they want.
Forgetit87: If they removed TFI from the website, this website would go under in a few months. Just look at the spanish version of the website.
Nov 15th, 2011 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There entire advertising revenue comes from the islands, they'd be idiots not to post as many storys about the islands as they can.
If your leaders are stupid enough to start another war the Brits will simply kick your asses again! No brag, just facts.
Nov 15th, 2011 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
uncle sam,that was 50 years ago.The world had changed enormously...India(which was slaved by uk,is bigger power than uk.China,which used to be trashed by uk,is a superpower......Get real uncle sam.USA,was the only superpower 50 years ago...now they have a lot of competition..
“USA,was the only superpower 50 years ago...now they have a lot of competition..”
Nov 15th, 2011 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not from Argentina they don't.........
Um. There is still only one superpower and that is the USA. The BRICS are emerging economies that are predicted to hold power in the future. (Estimates range from 2025 - 2050). But they are not without their own problems at present and while they are emerging. (Do a little research).
Nov 15th, 2011 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not sure what misinformation you are being fed by your government but whilst the world may change - it does, you only have to study the rise and fall of the empires in history - the idea that it is going to happen now, or in the very near future, is absolute nonsense. And it does not mean existing economic powers will disappear. There might be a more even playing field with more competitors. But I cannot see Argentina being one of the players. They are too inward looking; one of the pitfalls of Peronism.
67 Malvinero1 you talk total crap, , china was trashed by uk,
Nov 15th, 2011 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and argentina was never in china was it, like most of the western states,, 50 years or 100 years, make no difference,
your either a talker or a fighter,
argentina was,,and is,,and will remaion a talker,
so crap as you may, talkings good for the sole, keep it up, [quaso]
@67malvineroi: No, I was speaking of the British Empire of 100 years ago, just before WW-1. Yes, it is true that the British Empire is a mere shadow of it's former glory, but don't be silly enough to underestimate the abilities of their armed forces and people. You do so at your own distruction.
Nov 15th, 2011 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And, I repeat, you have a lot of silly asses in your govt.
Just a warning, bluff and bluster doesn't win a war. And it certainly isn't winning world opinion to your ill advised cause. Up the Brits!
agreed
Nov 15th, 2011 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Power
Nov 15th, 2011 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0can be measured in economic strength, for instance by available GDP.
But power can also be measured in absolute terms - the ability and willlingness to exercise its point of view by military brute force.
The UK has GDP to deploy as circumstances dictate - and this is huge.
It also has a military complex, evolved over hundreds of years, to be the sharp end of the GDP deployment. This works out to be a force unstoppable except by the super-powers.
Politically, the UK could be stopped by the US, by China (arguably), or - perhaps, though unlikely - by UN 'world opinion'.
But be in no doubt that the UK has the physical ability to obliterate Argentina from the modern world if it feels pressured so to do.
So, a repeat performance would not be a 70 day excursion to the Islands,
it would be focussed on the seconds that remained for life in B.A. State.
This is not a pretty thought and, it is my belief, that it would destroy the UK as a culture at the same time that it destroyed B.A. as a habitable State where humans could survive.
Britain will not go up against the US or China,
but could easily be willing to make Argentina 'The Last Big Firework'.
Please do not twist the tail of this tiger, for all our sakes.
i think this web site in same mentality with Daily Telegraph !
Nov 15th, 2011 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BUT
i agree with all mates here on the possibility of this web site name
converting onto Stanley News. !
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**71 U Sam
UK army forces is mere the Armchair Wand of US army forces !!
@ElaineB
Nov 15th, 2011 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@zethe
Only a tiny percentage of Mercopress's readers comment on articles. The overwhelming majority doesn't. That people respond to articles on the FI, therefore, doesn't mean Mercopress depends on such articles to expand readership. Compare the “most viewed” table with the “most commented” one. They don't always match. Apart from the focus on FI issue, Mercopress also has constant issues on other issues: e.g., bashing South American leftists, specially CFK; and reporting news on the region's food industry. Do you see where I'm going? I wouldn't be surprised if Mercopress, apart from promoting the interests of the FI government, was also on the payroll of Argentine big farmers.
@ 74 geo & 67 maleinero1: You would both do well to read and re-read Professor Geoffward2 and Elaine's contributions, you may learn something.
Nov 15th, 2011 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”UK army forces is mere the Armchair Wand of US army forces!!....74 geo
Something is lost in translation here. If you mean that the US controls the British Army; you are sadly mistaken. And conversely, if you mean the Uk controls the US armed forces.
Oh, yes, and your remark about the Dailey Telegraph....Up the Dailey Telegraph!
I wish you young men would concentrate more on your studies and less on trying to start a war. You are teenagers still in school.....right?
74 geo the British military rules its self,
Nov 15th, 2011 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the Americans rule theirs; we are not yet one army/navy ect,
We can and will operate alone, and if at any time Argentina wishes to prove this point, please give as a bell.
Ah sorry i forgot,
Argentina is a peace loving human caring society now, she specialises in talking, my error sorry lol.
It seems that the eternal p**sing contest continues, as Rambo said, 'don't push me', oh, just in case any of you are confused in Argentina, Rambo is a fiction character in Hollywood films and not a Viet Nam veteran saving the world against bullies for real, he will not join the British army or destroy drug cartels in South America single handed. But, if you like, we can ask if Prince William will fly some humble pie for you all to eat in his rescue helicopter.
Nov 16th, 2011 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Peace, friends♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Nov 16th, 2011 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 078 british lion better your prince get making circles round the isles and rescuing penguins and sheeps ....
Nov 16th, 2011 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0there is law gaucho rivero law, where any british ship or transport for oil or militar purposes cant use for any reason argentinian ports. try to bring eggs and butter for him and some oil
him and some oil
Nov 16th, 2011 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats something the Falklanders have got plenty of :-))))))
** 76 U Sam
Nov 16th, 2011 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you mean “” The Telegraph “” !!
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could you tell me what we can learn from
the Literature Professor GeoffWard
AND
the Geography Professor Elaine
obviosly,they are not like History Professor J.A.Roberts ....!!
** 77 brit
Nov 16th, 2011 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as you know the UK had passed over by US / Germany at 19th century
in Economy ...after the World War II it's worldwide power almost had
finished...today it is Italy size level country. !
of course that these realities are well known by many Brits people /for instance that who try to pay back their home credit debts as 27--30 %
of ( UK average) their own revenues.......!!
83 geo2 , i think you may be confusing the UK with Argentina,
Nov 16th, 2011 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the things we have to do to help you uneducated argies,
todays results,
the rate you borrow to lend money
greece 30. 34%//, ireland 8. 22%// , italy 7.10%, spain 6.32%
belgium 4.85%// FRANCE 3.66%, UK 2.14%.
the UK rate hasnt been seen since 1895, the money men, now see the UK as a safe haven for their money, most money men are now fleeing the euro countries, and that can only benifit the UK,
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EUROZONE [GDP] JULY-SEPT 2011,
TOP TWO WERE UK 0.5% and Germany 0.5% growth,
followed by// Frence 0.4%// austria 0.3%// spain 0%. holland -0.4%
portugal, -0.4%//
if this is what you fools claim that the uk is finnished, then what the hell does argieland look like,,,,,,,,,,,,,
great britain, your either with us, or envy of us, lol.
** 84 brit
Nov 16th, 2011 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i don't talk about interest rates...talk about pay -back burden/per capita.
the UK rate has not changed since 1895
BUT
if we look at home price index that
in 1983 = 100
in 2010 = 539
means that house price now have 5 times higher than 1983 !!
thats the past,
Nov 16th, 2011 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0today we get better,
the future is bright,and even brighter when we leave europe for good, lol.
Just a quick check to test the theory
Nov 17th, 2011 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 04 of the 5 most read are about Falkland Islands
4 of the 5 most commented are about Falkland Islands
British Royal family appear to generate a lot of interest - more than Argentinian cows.
“Compare the “most viewed” table with the “most commented” one.”
Nov 17th, 2011 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most viewed - 4/5 about the islands.
Most commented - 5/5 about the islands.
The islands are still there major readership, you can't deny this. You could look at that list any time of the week and the majority of the links on both lists would be about the islands.
Argentina describes Prince deployment as “a provocative act////
Nov 17th, 2011 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and today the following was announced
HMS Enterprise is heading to the South Atlantic
http://navynews.co.uk/archive/news/item/2661
the provocative provocation exchange ?
the ship 2 months needs to arrive??
Nov 18th, 2011 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so yes just in time to bring the eggs the butter, cards (to mitigate geting so bored), suncream, glasses kates photo perfum of the prince when he arrives in february
and the fuel for his exercises, hobbies of royalty
90 malen
Nov 18th, 2011 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Grow up you feeble troll.
Malen
Nov 18th, 2011 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who are you talking about, the captain or the equipment, silly bat
It s only The Devonport-based survey ship, or cant you tell the difference,
.
Christ are they still whining about this?
Nov 18th, 2011 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0malen would love to be the centre of attraction the way she imagines Princess Kate to be.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Nov 19th, 2011 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0they can put Malvina the baby they are going to have, Malvino(Malvinito imagine) if it is a boy, its so sweet..... as she is pregnant while he is in Malvinas, to remember you always.............. :P
Nov 19th, 2011 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0If she has their baby in TFI, Malen,
Nov 19th, 2011 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it could most easily be renamed The ROYAL Falkland Islands.
.Advise me if i have got this wrong but !
Nov 19th, 2011 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if this Argentina lady had a child in the islands,
Would i be correct in saying that legally, the child would be a Falkland island child, thus British,
Just a thought
;-) I wonder if it was provocative to the French when the English renamed ROYAL Leamington Spa and ROYAL Tonbridge Wells.
Nov 19th, 2011 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After all, 1066 was only yesterday!
After Agincourt, the tactic was to marry the two countries together:
“And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by from this day until the ending of the world but we in it shall be remembered.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers, for he today who sheds his blood with me shall be my brother, Be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition, and gentlemen in England now abed shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whilst any speaks, that fought with us upon St. Crispin's day!”
Perhaps this would work with Argentina . . . . . there's a black widow going begging . . . all we need is a willing British banker . .
I can just see Kenneth Brannagh, as Henry The Banker, taming the shrew with his final flourish:
“were thine that special face?
The face which fills my dreaming were thine,
the rhythm'd grace were thine,
the form so lithe and slender were thine,
the arms so warm, so tender were thine,
the kiss divine,
kiss me Christina!”
. . There!
Problem Solved!
@98.
Nov 20th, 2011 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fantastic reply Geof.
I just wonder if the Arg. posters can understand it however, especially with all the subtle nuances it contains.
l wouldn't wish her on any man, Geoff.
Nov 20th, 2011 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0But if it keeps her quiet........
A WARNING!
Nov 20th, 2011 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do not step on the British lion's tail BECAUSE,
Cet animal est tres mechant
Quand on l'attaque il se defend
(The animal is very bad, when attacked it defends itself)
Philippe
There is a general feeling in the UK, that a short war with Argentina would be a good thing in order to unify the nation and shut these bunch of morons up.
Nov 20th, 2011 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Row #102
Nov 20th, 2011 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't believe there is ' a general feeling'.
But if there is a political need to whip up the populace, then the British can do this as well as anybody else.
The British just talk quietly, but carry a big gun (Á la Lorri Petty, Tank Girl)
“Speak softly and carry a big stick”: a proverb advising the tactic of caution and non-aggression, backed up by the ability to do violence if required.
[Theodore Roosevelt, in a speech in Chicago in April 1903, said: “There is a homely old adage which runs: 'Speak softly and carry and big stick; you will go far.' If the American nation will speak softly, and yet build and keep at a pitch of the highest training a thoughly efficient navy, the Munroe Doctrine will go far.”]
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