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US will “keep reminding” Argentina it must comply with international obligations

Wednesday, November 16th 2011 - 05:11 UTC
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The administration of President Barak Obama reaffirmed its decision to “keep reminding” Argentina of the need to comply with its international obligations as well as the importance of upholding an investment climate ‘transparent and fair’ that includes paying creditors, points out a piece from Buenos Aires La Nacion correspondent in Washington. Read full article

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  • Beef

    Sounds like Argentina is finished. An aspirational colonial power in decline.

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    As I said before, it is not about the window-dressing in politics; real politics is what happens behind the scenes. And behind the scenes Argenina was told to pay up or else there will be consequences.

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    When will the vultures move in. Feel sorry for them in a way.

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Certainly the Argentine people deserve better than the shower of shite running their country.

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Why don't the yanks ask china to take on the debt like they wanted them to do with Greece?because they're not in Europe to do their bullying.they owe plenty themselves why don't they pay some of that instead of putting borrowed money into the IDB, and then acting like they own it(but isnt that what all their transactions are based on,hence the current crisis)isn't it called financial capital?

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    You are right, many countries have huge debts and they make payments on the debts. The problem here is the Argentine government does not want to take responsibility for its debts and pay up.

    The Argentine government can be a belligerent as it wants but failure to pay will have dire consequences for the Argentine people. The country is not wealthy or powerful enough to change the rules of the game.

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    There is no support for ARG here in the USA one of the reason I think they are so worried about U$ denominated trade is because we can force them to stop all trade in our currency which would essentially block all foreign trade and crash their economy. CFK better learn their place and pay their debts really soon the ax is falling.

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Exactly yankeeboy.but as Mao said some farts smell better than others.you worry about yourself.the yanks can't take responsibilty for their debt someone else will have to pay it or stop asking for payment otherwise the economy collapses.capitalism hasn't got very far.now is that trade or imperialism.why at this time does this matter become highlighted now?is it because there's no support in the USA for Argentina or is because there's a new hostility toward Argentina in USA

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Why is there no support are you serious? If you were a USA company and were awarded a couple hundred million from a recognized Int'l court because Argentina didn't honor it's contract wouldn't you expect to get paid? Who do you think you would complain to a corrupt pseudo-dictator or the US State Dept and Congress? Who do you think has more pull in the USA a piss-ant 3rd world country or The Dart family?

    You are either mentally challenged or too caught up in your Marxism to know how the world really works?

    Capitalism is alive and well....

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Well yank if everything is live and well you are happy so why don't you relax and enjoy it.I'll remain mentally challenged.

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    agreed then lol.

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    some people for there own reasons don't bother thinking but just repeat what they read,or have heard.the only filtering they do depends on who wrote or said it.they will grab hold of any coat tail they can to help them.some think statistics a real objects rather than aids,or pictures of actions.others just quote them like they have investigated them.unlike you Briton who look for anything that fits your conclusion.still you get fun.yes?

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Grit your teeth, Christina, he's got you by the balls and he's starting to twist 'em.

    Sorry, Yul, but she asked for all she is about to get.

    The US has no vested interest in destroying Argentina - quite the reverse, in fact - but playing by the rules of the game is a fact of life that he feels the need to drum home.
    Only then can he - and he will - bring some succour to this blighted country.

    Nov 16th, 2011 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    12 Yuleno you are getting as bad as malverino
    anything that fits your conclusion///////////
    it is not my conclusion, it is your conclusion,
    as for fun, it seems argentina is the one who thinks all this is fun,
    not us, think on that .

    Nov 17th, 2011 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    1 Beef, Sounds like Britain is finished. An aspirational colonial power in decline.

    Thursday 17 November 2011

    “Sir Mervyn King: Britain on the brink of second credit crunch, Bank of England Governor warns”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8895337/Sir-Mervyn-King-Britain-on-the-brink-of-second-credit-crunch-Bank-of-England-Governor-warns.html

    Nov 17th, 2011 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you argies always try to make a meal out of things,
    britain will still be going, when your lights go out .

    Nov 17th, 2011 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    the US doesn't want to destroy Argentina it merely wants to dominate and exploit Argentina.if Peronist government resists the pressure of the politics it will resort to aggression,but this time it won't be the fear of communism ,it will be some other pretext like rogue state or oppressive state.and of course Peronism is seen like that by those it suits.it needs Argentina to bear it's share of the cost of getting out of the hole it's got the capitalist world in to.

    Nov 17th, 2011 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    The US does not need to invent a reason. The Argentine government does not want to pay its debts and there are consequences to that attitude.

    I can understand why CFK does not want to pay as she does not have the money and capital is leaking out of the country faster than a bucket full of holes. It is history repeating itself. And introducing panic policies that are ill-thoughtout will only increase the distrust of Argentines and foreigners alike.

    Nov 17th, 2011 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    17, Not only are you mentally unstable you are delusional. Do you think we need your 39B in reserves or more Soy? We don't need Argentina for anything, not even to promote stability in the region, we have Brazil and Chile for that. Funny how the countries that have accepted the USA are doing the best in the region, is that just a coincidence? Let's see Peru, Colombia and Chile, all considered allies of the USA, is Argentina on that list? Nope it's on the list with Bolivia, Venezuela and Ecuador, all socialist losers getting poorer by the day, less free and spiraling out of control. Yeah that's the path I would choose it has worked so well for the last 60 years let's see where you are in another 60.

    Nov 17th, 2011 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Elaine that is a wonderful explanation.Argentina haven't got the money so they won't pay.do think,if you are right,there might be a solution?yankeeboy,you don't need anything from argentina,as Chile And Brasil will do that work for you.you will arm them free or you will cajole them into being the puppets of the USA.isn't it your president who agreed their should be better relations with Argentina.Argentina are happy to agree with that but why are you talking about stability.the world knows the history of US interventions in south and central America as it appears you do.stability and good relations?seen as Bolivia,Ecuador etc chose their own 'loser' path,how are they not freer than to be puppets of your wonderful country.I'm delusional??check chambers dictionary.

    Nov 17th, 2011 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Most of the world is in a mess, debt is piling up, and countries must pay their way,
    Every penny helps.
    If you let one get away with it, others will think it ok.

    .

    Nov 17th, 2011 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Good point, Brit.

    Nov 17th, 2011 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    22 GeoffWard2 thank you

    Nov 18th, 2011 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Hence Zimbabwe old boys

    Nov 18th, 2011 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Have you been to Zimbabwe, Yuleno?

    Nov 18th, 2011 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    #25 why do you ask?do you know something?

    Nov 18th, 2011 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    tut tut

    Nov 18th, 2011 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Have you got a time bomb Briton?

    Nov 18th, 2011 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    nope

    Nov 18th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @26 Yuleno,
    l know a lot of things about Zimbabwe, Yuleno.
    Have you been there?

    Nov 19th, 2011 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    #30 no I have not been there Isolde but I would be interested in your portrait of that country I'm sure there are some wonderful things about the country and it's people.

    Nov 19th, 2011 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe
    Read particularly: 3.5, 3.6, 7.1
    Or, if you are like me - 2.1, 2.2

    Nov 19th, 2011 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Will do that.thanks for the hint Geoff.

    Nov 19th, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    yes sure mr barrack osama we will pay back as soon as your butt budy's return Islas Malvinas Argentina to us, thank you kindly but we don't hear a beep from burrack when the UK pirats refuse to return our land back, how old is the loan ? 30 years ? I think Argentina's complain is almost a century old, say mr obama will you return the money thefted from Libya ?? or Iraq ?? when you do let us know maybe then we will have an answer for your childish out of line sujestions, maybe if USA would take Argentina seriuosly their investments might not all be gone with the wind.

    Nov 20th, 2011 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    #34 Pratt-Junta
    Do you really think that O'Bama and CFK wasted their time discussing the Falklands?
    CFK uses the Falklands as a distraction for her problems and weaknesses so that the electorate think she is doing a good job. If she really wanted to 'solve' the Falklands situation she would go to the ICJ. BUT, of course she would have to abide by the outcome (self determination by the Falkland Islanders) so that would be another agreement that would be dishonoured.
    Do you not see a pattern here? Successive Argentinian Goverments have consistently failed to meet their obligations -THAT - is why no other country (inc. LATAM) trusts them.

    Nov 21st, 2011 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bloomerfield

    And this is the same Argentina that pushed mr. Suckskozy to call Uruguay “a fiscal paradise” in the G20. They believe we are a fiscal paradise because we are up to date with our dues and our banks are solid, so who argentinian will put money in their banks after only 10 years these banks stole them their money under the “Corralito” issue in 2001? They cross the river and put the money here. Is not rational? We used to have right hand , center, leftist governments but our deals, links and relationship with the US was always EXCELLENT and we are just a small country. And of course is a shame for the “big brother” wen nobody trust him just because THEY DON´T PAY DUES , they bank system is not reliable and then they blame the US and join Chavez´s club as if the US is guilty about 200 years of internal corruption and financial disorder. Blame the US , blame Uruguay. Anyway, american brothers wen you want to make deals with a SERIOUS country , as usual here we are ;) We need to leave this MERCOSUR illusion, and increase links with the US that show us more respect than Argentina and in fact helped us much more wen we need it. “Imperialism” is what Brasil , Argentina and Venezuela are trying to do with the small countries around not the business opportunities the US offer us. I am Uruguayan working for an American company. Regards and happy thanksgiving season!

    Nov 21st, 2011 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Being uruquayan working for a yank company must make you think you know something special.beware the nice man he must want something.

    Nov 21st, 2011 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    I guess Bloomerfield knows how an American company operating overseas goes about its business, not everything about the business but enough to see that it is (apparently) ' a good thing' and pays him a living wage.

    I worked for a top UK power company and thought it top-notch, but then it was taken over by a German power corporation and I realised there were higher notches available and employment opportunities in a big range of other countries.
    Such is the nature of multi-national integration in a globalised world, and I was pleased to have spent the time I did there as it opened my eyes to different ways of doing business and better ways of carving out careers.

    Nov 21st, 2011 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bloomerfield

    Oh yes, the “nice man” want something. I want URUGUAY OUT OF MERCO-FKC-SUR! We loose a free commerce tract offer from the US some years ago.. why? “Because we belong to MERCOSUR, we need to negotiate as a block ” tell us our nice neighbors Ms. Argentina and Mr. Brasil. Then they did what they want and never respect any importation tract with us, protecting their own falling economies. Of course they never allow a free commerce tract with the US because is “the evil empire”, bla bla bla. Every time we need support from our “partners”, “pals” .. “allies” ? Call´em as you want. What we get? Juices in the Haya Court from Argentina, denounces at the G20 from Argentina, protectionism from Brasil. Our sin? To be a SERIOUS country were investors trust enough and not a Banana Republic were the same family were ruling as a Dinasty for decades. I have memory. So for my country, i don´t know if it is good enough,but for sure i prefer the US as partner than our current “Latin brothers” Argentina and Brasil . I used to live in the US for years, i have family there. I am deployed here by my company. I see how employees from Brazilian laboratories or Argentinian cookies brands here are working and i say: man i prefer to work at Mac Donald´s as a dish washer than for any Mercosur brand. If these are my brothers, i ´m sorry . I prefer my FRIENDS not my family. I support the way our previous president did: strategic alliance with the US a BIG but FAR country: we have water, we have oil, minerals and culture and we are reliable. And we are geographical far enough to don´t have any kind of abuses or hates: no frontier, no hate. In fact the only reason Brasil and Argentina don´t crush us with their boots is due to the UK first and the US later support. Isn´t it? Read the history GIYF: Lord Ponsomby, the operation “36 hours”.. or http://en.mercopress.com/2011/03/09/nestor-kirchner-government-is-more-like-fascist-brown-shirts-than-left-wing

    Nov 21st, 2011 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    IMPORTANT:
    This is the first real heart-felt tirade from a member of the public in a minnow-nation of Mercosur.
    It is more potent because he has the perspective of having experienced life outside the Southern Cone.

    He feels that his country is serially trampled on by the big-bears of Argentina and Brasil. You cannot disagree with him in his assessment.

    But here we are, now -
    where Mercosur is a busted flush of protectionism, introspection and nationally-self-serving practices,
    and where the four nations - as well as all the other nations in the world, it seems - are tearing up their trading bloc documents and are 'going bi-lateral'.

    Uraguay could come through this phase of history relatively unscathed, but you have to fear for the survival as an entity of the other minnow, Paraguay.
    Paradoxically, you also have to worry about the survival of the big-bear, Argentina.

    Nov 21st, 2011 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bloomerfield

    Our relation with Argentina always was complicated. Will try to be short: the vision of our founder, J. Artigas was inspired on the United States federation. His dream was a BIG BEAR , formed by States like The State of Uruguay, State of Cordoba, etc inside a Federation background.. But on these times (200 years ago) over and over again Artigas was betrayed by Buenos Aires government who was more interested on being a local potency capital and not just a Federal District as Washington DC. So they deal with Spaniards about this part of the river , in fact at these times THEIR territory because we used to be the same Nation. (United Provinces of the Rio de la Plata). It is ironic that our founder never planned an independent country, and the only reason we are independent is because Joseph Artigas couldn´t find a way to be part of a Big Federation of States. The only way to be part of “Argentina” was as an exploited province (the current situation of most of the argentinians provinces exploited under Buenos Aires central government) . Once we were fighting alone, we were invaded by Brasil and once again we fight not for independence, but to be part of a Big Federation as the US this time under Lavalleja .Argentina gave us some support (nothing to loose.. if these guys win, they will be a part of us as a PROVINCE not as a STATE as they want), then lord Ponsomby proposed as a peace formula to keep the “Western Side” (Banda Oriental in Spanish, Uruguay is the name of a river just to guide people about at the west of what we are) . Formula keep this way for years, and we become an independent country. If any country here fight for, believe in and try to unite the region on a big block, this was Uruguay lately trough MERCOSUR (our idea). But in fact, the big bears don´t see us as a little bear to protect.. but as honeycomb. They only want honey, the bees doesn´t matter.May be the US is an “apiarist”. but as a bee i prefer an ambitious apiarist than 2 hungry bears ;)

    Nov 22nd, 2011 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Well, Think, Marcos, Forgetit,malen, Malvinero1 etc. et bloody cetera.
    Now you know what other people think of your bully-boy tactics.
    l'm also expecting you to blame the British somehow for this man's view of your overbearing country.
    What is it with you guys?(& guyesess).
    Do you think that you have a mandate from heaven to lord it over your neighbours?
    Don't you have enough land? greedy, greedy, greedy.
    Develope your own land & keep your thieving hands off the Falklands & your other neighbours.

    Nov 22nd, 2011 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The greedy Never have enough
    The corrupt are always willing
    And the liars are always ready for another one,
    They do say, it’s better to have ½ of something,
    Rather than all of nothing,
    I wonder what they will end up with.
    .

    Nov 22nd, 2011 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bloomerfield

    About the Falklands i don´t see how Buenos Aires figured they will add to the map a far territory full of people from another language and culture that DOESN´T WANT to belong to Argentina , were Argentina was not even able to add Uruguay: a territory full of people with same language, culture and that in fact WANT to belong to Argentina if they agreed to be a Federation of EQUALS states , not a “micro empire” city maintained by all the resources rich provinces. We need to be clear about this: the problem is not “Argentina” as country, but Buenos Aires as government. Córdoba, Misiones, Mendoza, Entre Ríos.. ask their people what they think about current political system were a central government stole all their production and were they need to travel to Buenos Aires even to get a passport. That was the unacceptable situation for Uruguay: our independence was not desired, not a goal. Was a matter of survival. And we owe this independence to an English gentleman : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ponsonby,_1st_Viscount_Ponsonby (well to pay part of the due we send you Luis Suárez to the Liverpool LOL ) . If we wanted and tried but we were unable to be part of Argentina as it is now... how Argentina figured will deal with the Kelpers? Brasil is a Big Federation of States, Mexico as well, the US the same and in fact the UK something like this. I think the historical problem with Argentina is geopolitical format : BIG country, with a central dominant capital and lot of relegated provinces. Who wants to be part of that? That´s the origin of all: corruption, default, wars, etc. Too many power in only one place ruling too many land and people without own voice.

    Nov 22nd, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    As you will know #44 your people wanted to be separate from Argentina.you are the people who want to be different. So why do you expect favors from Argentina and are you the one who criticises.you must remember that the people of cordoba Mendoza etc are part of Argentina who can live in ba if they wish.you and your yanquism have the root of the problem.as you say in #39 you want out but unfortunately for you,you are not Uruguay.

    Nov 23rd, 2011 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bloomerfield

    Don´t change my words. We hit the wall of REALITY over and over again. We hold the “american brotherhood” flag once, twice, hundred of times in the past and present and always crushed face against the reality : Buenos Aires only thing in Buenos Aires. Last chapter were CFK joined 20 giants to hit the little “brother” was just embarrassing . The same lady who talk against EMPIRES join some of these empires and 20 BIG countries to hit a 3 million people small country like Uruguay. Let me know.. why she don´t just discuss this topic in MERCOSUR if MERCOSUR means something to BsAs? I am not talking about favors . I am talking about just respect and MUTUAL benefit, and acomplish deals. In the MERCOSUR we both agreed UNILATERAL actions will not be taken, we will act as a block. We respected this: we loose an historical opportunity to get a free tract with the U.S. for respect this, we have diplomatic problems with U.K. avoiding a British boat to charge oil here on a travel to Falklands , and we put on risk our excellent relations with these 2 big countries just because we acomplish our word. Then you go to G20 and speak sh..t about us. Then you go to the Haya and speak s..t about us. Tell me Yuleno.. were in the headlines for declare a default? Were you find Uruguay in the headlines for don´t pay dues? Were in the headlines for political scandals or government crisis and presidents running out on helicopter or being replaced? Were in the headlines about banks blocking money withdrawals ? Now you understand why people trust in us , even people from your country? Is this a sin? But we were acting like stupids i admit that, believing in Buenos Aires 200 years even refusing to be part of the Commonwealth (yes we got offer some decades ago). Time to find new friends, our natural brother acts always like an enemy. Want Saxon building companies constructing condos like this http://www.libertytowersapts.com/ or searching oil rather than blocking bridges or defaming us.

    Nov 23rd, 2011 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    do us a favour tell the uruguayans not to come to live to buenos aires if you dont like us and feel so good in your country.there are so many much more than aregentinians living in uruguay

    Nov 23rd, 2011 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The british already knows what you argies are after,
    mmmmmmmmmm

    Nov 24th, 2011 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    We know what you know but how lucky are the British to have you as their spokesperson lol

    Nov 24th, 2011 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bloomerfield

    Malen: i wish to satisfy you... unfortunately a lot of fine clothes stores, boat lines, hotels, restaurants and sellers are asking me the opposite: “Pleas uruguayans, come here with your dollars!” . Every time i go to Buenos Aires and walk trough Santa Fé rue or Florida , they literally catch me and supply i come again with my money. I don´t see to much argentinians spending money there or making shops btw... it seems you can´t even buy USD in Argentina. What a 1st world country, right? You don´t even have the freedom to buy foreign money! Can you believe that? Yes , you are right. We are a “paradise”... we don´t too much to be a paradise compared with you.

    At least i can buy the money i want without giving explanations, and i can put the money safe in any bank, and every president in the last décades finish his period by contract not by protest or crisis. But don´t worry, we will continue going to spend some money there and give you a hand. And Yuleno, yes the British are lucky to have friends as Uruguay and we are lucky as well to have friends like them. Is not a shame, it´s a proud. We both are serious and reliable countries. You will never get friends like this, and never countries like this will search you as friends. But you have Mr. Chavez, Mr. Ortega, Mr. Fidel, go ahead :)

    We have the better bridges in the whole latin america thanks to British engineers. And they have Suárez and Cavani as well playing there(try to offer them “the walking dead” Messi , may be they can pay a beer for him...if you agree to keep Tevez forever and don´t send him back) . So everybody is happy , we can exchange tech for football players :)

    Nov 24th, 2011 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    as each brit is special, then all are lucky.

    unless you happen to have lost, then advice was not much good .

    Nov 24th, 2011 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    #50 it is clear you are enslaved mentally as well as economically to the Yanquis and that is your decision.hope you stay happy but I would not sell myself to the exploiter.

    Nov 24th, 2011 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    and why you YOU come if you are so happy there??
    we can send back so many to your country or the fu**lands
    www.elpais.com.uy/Suple/DS/09/02/22/sds_400229.asp
    claudia fernández, ghidone, farro, fierro, eunice, waldo, natalia oreiro, etc etc

    Nov 24th, 2011 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bloomerfield

    Malen, all the people you mentioned are RICH PEOPLE, of course is cheap to live in Argentina due to your constant devaluations (the last one make a lot of Uruguayans go and shop there.. wowww 20% devaluation means for every grand i have 1200 USD there! I am thinking myself to go Argentina ;) ) Uruguayans don´t go to wash your dishes man, you pay for see our actress , singers and theater directors because your culture depend from Uruguay. The Tango? Tell the world that LA CUMPARSITA was composed by an Uruguayan (Gerardo M. Rodríguez), tell the world Gardel and Julio Sosa born in Uruguay, tell the world that the word TANGO is an african word that means “closed” and was created here in our Old City to call the music the Afroamericans use to dance with the Polish and other european inmigrants (you don´t have afroamerican population right? They die by malaria a lot of time ago... so how YOUR music has an african name? Obviously you need to come here to Montevideo, and visit Barrio Sur were the Tango was created) . Your food comes from here (Hernandarias introduced the Cows in this side of the United Provinces first) , your typical drink come from here (the Mate was adopted by the Spaniards on THIS SIDE were the CHARRUAS used the bush to prepare a tea and of course the “bombilla” is an english invent we adopted later, same as the “termo” is a US invention we adopted too for the mate.. and you just copy and paste there). People in Buenos Aires speaks like Uruguayans: your accent is OURS. But in Mendoza you speak like Chileans , and in the North you speak like Bolivians. Man, Buenos Aires depends culturally from Uruguay, and economically too. Thas the reason we are independent: we have capital (human resources and natural resources) enough to don´t suffer the same destiny that the rest of the dominated provinces you have under the line of indigence .

    You never understood that, that´s why we are not a BIG federation. But our destiny is to find OUT of region allies.

    Nov 25th, 2011 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Well, Argentines, call him a liar, if you're game to.
    lt seems that the area around BA might belong to Uruguay.
    Just can't help themselves, can they?

    Nov 25th, 2011 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    54 Plumerofield
    an attack of laugh is only my comment, you see Isolde according to plumero we argentinians are a bad copy of uruguayans, ajajajajaj
    first nobody here would care about la cumparsita. our representative tango (and I dont like much tango) would be Mi Bs As querido, Caminito, El día que me quieras. No La Cumparsita.
    mate food and language we learned it from you...???hm, must have been shared customs we were all rioplatenses time ago
    and those you call artists, ecept Natalia Oreiro are vedettongas, I wouldnt pay a ticket. We have of our own too, wouldnt go either. Artists may be China Zorrilla or Carlos Perciavale. Not those.
    Continue coming to visit to Argentina.
    I like Uruguay too, but like Brasil more.

    Nov 25th, 2011 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Yup, Brasil is great for a real suntan.
    North/northeast is good. Some big hotel complexes to make US citizens feel like home but they cost a lot. The pousadas are good value and bring you closer to the real people of Brasil. Friday night here is samba night and the bar and dancefloor will be heaving.
    Enjoy.

    Nov 25th, 2011 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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