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Uruguay denies access to Malvinas-bound Royal Navy vessels to please Argentina
Uruguay had to stand up to a world power and deny dock access to a Royal Navy vessel on its way to the Falklands/Malvinas to retain good relations with Argentina, admitted the Uruguayan President Jose Mujica in Guadalajara where he met with members of the Uruguayan colony in Mexico. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI am not sure if European Union fans in Europe could understand this. Our union is not the same that unites Greece with Germany. We have a common history in this continent. We have all been divided by european Empires during the last centuries. Most of us also come from european immigrants who had to escape from a continent that was expulsing its own people.
Nov 17th, 2011 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cheers for Mujica!
And I don't agree with this idea that this artichle gives about a Mujica who doesn't like admiting that he had to deny support to a Royal navy. He is not the kind of politician who would have benefited from serving the Queen of England. His values are not those, even if Argentina and Malvina's issue wasn't in the middle.
But still happy to allow fishing vessels to call in and to negotiate trade deals with the FI. This action is window dressing and is a fairly simple way to please Argentina while not affecting relations with the UK and the FI.
Nov 17th, 2011 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 01 - So you admit you're immigrants? Much like... the people of the Falkland Islands.
Nov 17th, 2011 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do like this man, Mujica. However, I do believe that the Uruguayan policy of not permitting British Naval ships to visit is very short sighted, and could easily lead to reprisals by the Uk in the form of economic difficulties. But, whatever, it is his 'backyard' and I suppose he has to make a show of fawning to his much bigger and more dangerous neighbour, Argentina. Too bad his notions of allowing the people to decide their own fate does not extent to the current legal residents of the Falkland Islands, or as ho incorrectly calls them, the Malvinas. Too bad, also, the UK and Argentina can't come to some sensible remedy to this ongoing situation. I suppose, ultimately, it will be Independence for the Falkland Islands some day - and then dare the Argentinians to attack. Or be good neighbours.
Nov 17th, 2011 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 01 fermin
Nov 17th, 2011 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0More typical outrageous arrogance. You just don't get it, do you? These countries pay lip service to supporting Argentina because they have to, and behind your back they do everything they can to be good neighbours to us. That's the truth, whether you agree with it or not.
It's not for you as a person or a country to tell the president of another sovereign nation what their values are. In fact you shouldn't be interfering in another country's business at all.
As for 'serving the queen of England' by letting a ship in on a routine visit? You're sounding like an idiot, with your frantic bitterness. Calm down and grow up.
Its not often I agree with you Monty.Of course Uruguay does whatever is in its national interest.It has close relations with Argentina but also wants good relations with other countries who could be of benefit to it.Exactly the same as in Europe where Italy lreland Spain and France to name but four try to juggle good relations with its neighbour and an important country on the other side of the World whose trade is important.Hardly rocket science
Nov 17th, 2011 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pepe Mujica thank you very much!
Nov 17th, 2011 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Muchas gracias Pepe Mujica!!
Poor old Jose Mujica,he's been rolled by the Argentines and then gently shafted.You stop the navy and we will be best friends but dont ask us to exchange our money back for dollars.So now Uruguay has to burn a load of worthless Argie peso's because they are not worth the paper they are written on.Argentines wont even exchange thier own currency.....that just about sum's it up !!! Jose might slowly relise that a relation-ship with Britain and The Falkland Islands is more benificial than one with Argentina.For instance they have lost all the oil support business worth Billions and the drill keeps turning.... 'Ben dover Jose' ...your new nick-name
Nov 17th, 2011 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is hilarious!
Nov 17th, 2011 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina a world power? You do clearly understand the distribution of power within the international system.... ha ha ha!
Is powerful Argentina also making Brasil follow the same steps? Poor Brazil! So weak and small! No other choice!
Read a bit about the history of latinamerican internacional relations. You´ll notice that dispite of the conflicts that might arise within Latinamerican countries, whenever it comes to facing a foreign menace, the continent unites to confront it. That´s the way it is.
You´ll never be welcome. Sorry.
With all respect, but you guys suffer from some sort of psycologycal disorder... is it paranoia?
And remember... we´ll be back! :)
This is exactly what one would expect from an under- underdeveloped “sudaca”!
Nov 17th, 2011 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
9 Islas Malvinas
Nov 17th, 2011 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''whenever it comes to facing a foreign menace'' ??? What are you talking about? Four Typhoons and a company of infantry?
Sounds like paranoia to me.
Old news - and you lot wouldn't be united if we welded you together!
Nov 17th, 2011 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 11 Monty69
Nov 17th, 2011 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I´m talking about a “crude colonial power in decline” (you know the author) maintaining a colonial situation in Argentina. And you know what I mean clearly.
Islas - “we'll be back”, you have never been there in the first place!
Nov 17th, 2011 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The drill bit keeps turning :)
@13...please answer me this. I have asked this question many times to Argentine poster on here, but no one has ever replied or even acknowledged the question...here goes. I hope you can respond to it...
Nov 17th, 2011 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By Argentine logic, Britain is desperately holding onto all of its colonies - a.k.a. a “crude colonial power in decline”. So why did Britain allow South Africa, Australia, Canada, India, Signapore, Jamaica etc. etc. etc. to gain independence, while Britain does everything it can to hold onto the Falklands, which offer a tiny amount of resource and financial benefits for Britain when compared to the above? It just doesn’t make any sense.
This is exactly what one would expect from an under- underdeveloped “sudaca”!
Nov 17th, 2011 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
philippe: Pelotudo!
“I had to deny England access to any war ship, access to Uruguayan territory. I had to confront Her Majesty from Great Britain, why? Because we have the question of the Malvinas Islands”, said Mujica
Nov 17th, 2011 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you y aguante Pepe!!!
So he does things to please other people and not because it's good for his country? What kind of president is that?
Nov 17th, 2011 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No problem. UK is going to build its own transit docking port on another territorial island.
Nov 17th, 2011 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 You wish
Nov 17th, 2011 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 South Africa, Australia, Canada, India, etc... can stand on their own feet. And Malvinas case is different. They hold it for Anctarctica.
@17 Exactly! And note the “WE have the question of Malvinas Islands” meaning they´re occupying “OUR” latinamerican islands.
@18 He means to please latinamerica.
@19 Good! Keep spending money! :)
Perhaps we can move slightly east,
Nov 17th, 2011 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the international airport is built on st helens , then this will be used as a rout to the south Atlantic and the Falklands,
Eventually a bigger port, with facilities to take bigger ships, / commerce, and welcome the royal navy, [or course its British]
But the point is, [and I have said this before]
If you force others to accommodate, that you cannot, then an alternative will be found, then their will be no need to go to the south Americans for anything,
Or course the Falklands will still trade with whom they wish,
But Great Britain, can and will find an alternative, then you will have lost her presents in your waters,
And what will that achieve.
Just a thought .
.
Perhaps we can move slightly east,
Nov 17th, 2011 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the international airport is built on st helens , then this will be used as a rout to the south Atlantic and the Falklands,
Do you think we care what uk does???
uk is irrelevant!!
Just a cheap pirat nation!
@20...you say...“@15 South Africa, Australia, Canada, India, etc... can stand on their own feet. And Malvinas case is different. They hold it for Anctarctica.”
Nov 17th, 2011 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I say...
1. But this contradicts other Argentine statements regarding Britain holding onto the Falklands to steal its resources (Arguello and many Argentine Mercopress posters). Surely Australia, South Africa, India and Canada have infinitely more resources to steal than in the Falklands!
2. Britain could easily bolster its Antarctic claim through Australia....
3. The Falklands does stand on its own two feet. The Falklands are self-sufficient, and the Falklands Government even made a surplus of £19m in the last financial year, mainly from Oil and Fisheries revenues, and good investment returns. Britain provide us defence, which would not be required if one of our neighbours did not invade the Falklands 30 years ago and continues to play an aggressive role.
Your statement is completely incorrect and even contradicts other Argentine anti-British/Falkland comments....
22 Malvinero1 (#)
Nov 17th, 2011 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think we care what uk does???
UK is irrelevant!!
Just a cheap pirate nation
…………………………..
That’s the whole point
Britain does not worry what Argentina thinks,
For only Argentina in the end will reap what it sows.
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@20 Hello Falkland Islands. (I have to call you that because what you call yourself is the product of a diseased, psychotic gob of goo that you probably think of as a brain. Not to worry as we can spread that out to become fertiliser).
Nov 17th, 2011 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In one of your dozy posts you referred to “a crude colonial power in decline”. I trust that you understand that said “power” has a GDP 500 times the size of your pitiful, colonic country.
Try to understand this. In 1982, Britain sent 10% of its armed forces. Just 10%. Can you conceive your fate if Britain sent 50%? The fact is that if Britain pisses in your direction, you will drown. All of you. Not that you will be missed.
Islas - what exactly do I wish for? The islands are British and the oil will flow to market, and you lot are too pathetic to do anything about it. That is not a wish, it is a fact.
Nov 17th, 2011 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do you wish for? To grow a spine and some balls?
slas - what exactly do I wish for? The islands are British and the oil will flow to market, and you lot are too pathetic to do anything about it. That is not a wish, it is a fact.
Nov 17th, 2011 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really corned beef?
We pull out because the biggest probable reserves are in: Argentine sea,the continental part of Argentina...We do not have to give you anything.........
I am not talking about probable. I am talking about actual and we will see the booking of reserves in early 2012.
Nov 17th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, and you are too toothless to do anything about it. Those FPSO vessels will sail in and you will do nothing.
“We do not have to give you anything...”. We don't want anything of yours, you have nothing to offer.
@21 Yeah... you depend on Sain Helena
Nov 18th, 2011 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0@23
1. It doesn´t contradict anything. The UK couldn`t hold Australia, South Africa, etc. But they can still maintain control over Malvinas.
2. Hahaha That`s stupid.
3. Incorrect. UK is barinwashing you.
@ 25 Read carefully. We`re saying it`s IN decline. Not that it has declined already. And if you compare with Argentina... of course the UK it more powerful... that`s why this article is really really funny. Argentina a power? Haha. The UK is still a power and that`s the only reason it has its hands on the islands. But it`s IN decline. How long will it be able to hold it? That`s the question.
@26 you with Argentina had nothing to claim... but some day you`ll need to face it...
Well, unveiling the myths....
Nov 18th, 2011 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0- When we have a threaten we act together as a block.....what a lie !!! The threaten comes from inside the “block”......always !!! And from the nearest neighbors......unfortunately.
- Islanders are implanted british on the Falklands.....They are european descendants like we are the most (mixed with some Africans roots, except South Cone countries) with up to nine generations living and developing the Islands...
- All Latam countries are suppoting us against the UK about the Falklands issue......But Chile keeps receiving the HMS warships or diplomatic visits, Falklands flagged vessel as the Protegat or Concordia Bay to be fitted, airbr, ge with LAN airplanes weekly, health support at P. Arenas & Santiago, technical and student exchange, etc., etc., etc... and so on.
And Mr. Mujica.....poor baby you are, no balls enough to stop the Argentine Gvt. pressure. You are a monument of a leftist politician...one day your countrymates will ask you for that way to represent them....In the meanwhile, think how to burn a big mountain of “che” pesos finished the summer season....
” but I know they wrote my name in their little black reminder book: they must be crazy about me”
Nov 18th, 2011 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0it seems that delusions of importance and grandeur, and that their actions and opinions are cared about or even noticed by the rest of the world, are fairly common in failed South American politicians, although this guy is one of the few outside of Argentina that i have seen so slavishly appeasing the fascist scumbags in the south.
strange that the very worst cases of spineless and corrupt politicians in certain nations are merely the norm in Argentina (though that is most likely due to a largely spineless and corrupt populace)
pity Uruguay does not look to the lessons of history, that embarrassing yourself to appease a corrupt nation of shrieking fascists does nothing but make them bite for more. and while Argentina is utterly unable to harm britain or the islanders, they now know they can bully Uruguay while this idiot is in charge. When the islanders become even more self sufficient with oil money, new air links to St Helena and become even more happy and prosperous despite Argentina's hysteria, whose to say they wont lash out at Uruguay to try and restore some of their “macho” credentials?
hell if they thought the (failed) attempt to ethnically cleanse a peaceful island community was a heroic thing, and that outright genocide of innocent aboriginals in the conquest of the desert is something to be celebrated on their money, i doubt trying to torture a fellow south American nation will be met with any objection from the openly fascist-wannabe Argentine population
And Mr. Mujica.....poor baby you are, no balls enough to stop the Argentine Gvt. pressure. You are a monument of a leftist politician...one day your countrymates will ask you for that way to represent them....In the meanwhile, think how to burn a big mountain of “che” pesos finished the summer season....
Nov 18th, 2011 - 04:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHHAHAHAHAHA Sergio...Chile is supporting Argentina on Malvinas,is not rigth?
Let se if uk or Chile does not care about Argentina....
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If all Latam countires support Argentina then why does Brazil provide port facilities for the ships supporting the drilling (even the rig called in). Oh and the rig is flagged in Panama.
Nov 18th, 2011 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now that is what I call support.
@29...you say...“2. Hahaha That`s stupid.
Nov 18th, 2011 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 03. Incorrect. UK is barinwashing you.”
2. Australia claims the Antarctic, so how is that stupid?
3. How is the UK brainwashing me? I work for the Falklands Government, I know what I said about self-sufficiency and the £19m surplus is real and true. One of the MLAs (who was born in the Falklands), who was elected by the people of Falklands announced the surplus. It is true. Our own little Government run in the Falklands, which does not have anything to do with Britain, made a £19m surplus in the last financial year. This is a fact. For you to deny something I know as a fact and to be true, only serves to prove you are the one in fact brainwashed. Wake up.
I actually truly enjoy how you (and other Argentines) completely dismiss everything when I say, it just proves to me how indoctrinated you and your fellow countrymen are. I also love it when you deny something I know and can see with my owen eyes, when you are hundreds of miles away and never been to the Falklands and have no links to the Falklands. You are just basing your comments on what you want to be the truth.
32@ Falklander1 (the real name if you wont be referred to those islands) You can write a lot more business that we have with your country (we are buying it by pieces, as you must know), but you can´t deny the support that we are giving to the Falklands in those ways I have mentioned before.....so, assume that the Chilean “support” to Argentina is just “politically correct words” but in the facts is nothing but words.....
Nov 18th, 2011 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world's biggest geopolitical FRAUD:
Nov 18th, 2011 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“islas malvinas argentinas”, bla, bla, bla...
Philippe
if there is a dispute territory in a country of a region that lives in peace without any kind of conflicts, why would the region bring support to militar foreign countries ships disputing territory and evading dialogue??
Nov 18th, 2011 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0words support is esential in international forums
we support other countries when having conflicts ecuador bolivia for ex and made agreements to build a common defense
Malen, there is a British military presence in the Falkland Islands, because in 1982 Argentina took Britain by surprise and invaded the Falkland Islands. Britain has decided it will never be caught out like that again and decided to construct a permanent military base so the Falkland Islands can never be invaded again.
Nov 18th, 2011 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British Military is there because of Argentina and not to disrupt the peace of South America. You have to be blind not to see that.
we are not longer in 1982
Nov 18th, 2011 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to not disrupt peace in our southmaerica you can go to your home that seems are having lot of trouble, but i see you only talk meet but up to today dont resolve in acts your economical problems
32@ Falklander1 (the real name if you wont be referred to those islands) You can write a lot more business that we have with your country (we are buying it by pieces, as you must know), but you can´t deny the support that we are giving to the Falklands in those ways I have mentioned before.....so, assume that the Chilean “support” to A
Nov 18th, 2011 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure Alejandro..but for Chile,Argentina is far more important than uk or Malvinas,and you are not buying Argentina by pieces..Do not kidd yourself.....I am buying Argentina....not you!
and if you (NATO) get together to invade others poors conflicted countries, why wouldnt we get together to build peace trade and defense (our own way to resolve conflicts)?
Nov 18th, 2011 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0after all is our business, not your problem
Mad'un - 1982 was five minutes ago. You must be young!
Nov 18th, 2011 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And life just goes round .... and round :-)
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/argentina-at-the-third-committee/
how will the kirchnerist fascist orgy end? I don't want to know...
Nov 18th, 2011 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39 Malen
Nov 18th, 2011 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say “we are not longer in 1982”
And I say, Britain are no longer in 1833.
I love how Argentines ask the Islanders to not hold Argentina accountable to events that occurred in 1982, but then hold the very same Islanders accountable to events that occurred in 1833. The hypocrisy is outrageous.
Would all Argentinian contributors who advocate force to achieve their aims please answer me this:
Nov 18th, 2011 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Given the poor state of the Argentinian Military, kept purposefully underfunded and supplied incase they kick the CFK regime out of power, how are they supposed to do anything to anybody?
@5: Yours is a clever comment, but really... the logic at the international relationships in Latinamerica are not the same as in Europe. We don't see each other as enemies nowadays, and even less now that Argentina's and Uruguay's governments are sooo simmilar and support each other so much. They really work hard to avoid this science fictions ideas of conflicts between these two countries get seriously spread in the news.
Nov 18th, 2011 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is just a casual story, but I think it coul dbe good to comprehend: When I was 13 years old I had a very good teacher at school, after one year she told us she was from Uruguay, non of us had noticed it. They are unbelievable simmilar to us. We, Argentinians around Rio de La Plata than to another corners of Argentina, even have more things in common with them than we do with another corners of our country. The strings that attach us are not only economic.
Appart from this, can someone imagine Argentina as a dangerous country for Uruguay? Come on!
I know you think I am an idiot/fanatic/childish, I am sorry for you, but this is the reality. No manipulation here, I am talking with honesty really, and I am taking you seriously, I would never call somebody idiot just because I don't agree with his/hers ideas. Sorry for you.
We could have another governments in here, governments who take neighbours as enemies. But not today, I am sorry, but this is not the reality and it is good to tell the truth: the governments of Argentina and Uruguay are more than aliates nowadays.
The strong empires/nations around the globe have always tried to split Latinamerica into as many different little countries as possible. So I amnot surprised to read artichles like this one. So many foreign interests would like to see us fighting... Am I wrong on this?
46 fermin
Nov 18th, 2011 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No-one is denying the ties between Uruguay and Argentina.
What is more questionable is whether Argentina should be putting pressure on Uruguay to show hostility to the Falkland Islands when, left to themselves, they would be our friends. They still are our friends when they think they can get away with it without the big bully next door noticing.
You are forcing them to choose between us and you because you can, and that stinks. Are you not big enough to fight your own battles without bullying your neighbours as well as us?
We are your neighbours and you take us as enemies and that is the truth.
For a bully, that pushes or intimidates others to do their dirty work, is a dangerous bully indeed,
Nov 18th, 2011 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The very same bully that would push others to violence, while he sits back and laughs,
And claims,[its nothing to do with me]
When it all goes wrong, that is very declivitous and a very nasty game to play,
If she is not man enough to do her own dirty work,
What does that then make her, in the eyes of the world ??
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For a bully, that pushes or intimidates others to do their dirty work, is a dangerous bully indeed,
Nov 18th, 2011 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really britton? Argentina bully??? Doing the dirty work? look who is complaining.....
uk was and is a master in using and abusing others people and contries to do the dirty work!
Why do you complain?
We are giving you back the same medicine.....
That is the game.......
Argentina was and is very innocent compared with the dirty work done by other countries.
If uk will be doing: OHHHHH! Very good..Those are allies.....
Cut it off,britton! I do not mind you to defend uk...but complaining for something the brits are master at doing...Really.....You have no brain,even in mentioning that!!
2@ Falklander1 (the real name if you wont be referred to those islands) You can write a lot more business that we have with your country (we are buying it by pieces, as you must k”
BTW sergito,the official names are falklands/Malvinas!!
FALKLAND ISLANDS (ISLAS MALVINAS)
(OVERSEAS TERRITORY OF THE UK; ALSO CLAIMED BY ARGENTINA)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/fk.html
Think before moving your tonge!
Briton///only one [t] please,
Nov 18th, 2011 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0//////////////
ha ha ho ho mm now lets see here, ha ha ho ho, icant stop laughing, haha [ Argentina was and is very innocent ]]]
ha ha ha ho ho ho, stop it stop it, ive got cramp ha ha ho ho,
Argentina was and is very innocent
Argentina was and is very innocent
Argentina was and is very innocent
ha ha ho ho, stit where that puddle come from
haha stop it stop it haha
SILLY BOY
a ha ho ho mm now lets see here, ha ha ho ho, icant stop laughing, haha [ Argentina was and is very innocent ]]]
Nov 18th, 2011 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ha ha ha ho ho ho, stop it stop it, ive got cramp ha ha ho ho,
Argentina was and is very innocent
Argentina was and is very innocent
Argentina was and is very innocent
ha ha ho ho, stit where that pud
AHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!
Argentina is FAR BETTER THAN uk!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHA
Whom do you want to kid,cheap Nazi pirate!!
britton=Cheetah!
see, insults, i give you a chance to grow up, and you act like a silly child,
Nov 18th, 2011 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the little one says ARGENTINA Was ans Is Very Innoncent
you said, you laugh at it, and grow up .
e, insults, i give you a chance to grow up, and you act like a silly child,
Nov 19th, 2011 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0and the little one says ARGENTINA Was ans Is Very Innoncent
you said, you laugh at it, and grow up .
OK!
No problem,but uk is shrew!
Falklander1, you´r wrong.....the real name of the islands is and will be Falklands Islands while the Falklands flagg be at the top of the mast.
Nov 19th, 2011 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Islas Malvinas is just a myth feeded by Argentine brainwashers.....
Uruguayans are not too sure about the common links and friendship with Argentina, don´t be blind.....you are robbed them even the birth place of Carlitos Gardel......Ask them if they are happy with the Gualeguaychu bridge blockade because the Uruguayan mill plant on the River Plate (rumors say that Argentina´s Gvt. stopped the blockade as exchange for support over the Falklands Islands issue) or the blockade to the Uruguayan inland port to deliver the mills production directly to destination.
Argentina used to press the other abusing of their size....(we have suffered it a lot of times in the past up to 1979 when Pinochet Gvt. stopped the tradition and offer a good fight if it were necessary).
And...what peaceful sub-continent are you thinking about ??? Latam ??? What a joke.....!!! Think about Venezuela/Colombia, Ecuador/Peru, Peru/Chile, Bolivia/Chile, Argentina/Chile, Argentina/Uruguay, etc.....all of them with conflict related to their borders after two hundred years from independencefrom Spain...??? Europe has been in war twice in less than a century and they have now the ECC with 27 countries with very different ancestors, culture, language, roots, in short....idiosyncrasies.
What thing gives you the right to ask to your neighbors to choose between you or they ?? Why you are involving them in a conflict that you have created against other neighbor country ? Why don´t you have the guts to face the issueby your own ? Why are you trying to change a bilateral conflict into a multilateral conflict ? Will it be because you know that you have no expectation to win in an international court were just the real facts count ?
Vivan y dejen vivir !!!
The British will never dare to anger Uruguay as Uruguay will cut-off the supply of Corned Beef to the English thus reducing them to starvation, misery, hysteria and ultimately despair....
Nov 19th, 2011 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0We have you this time gringos.
Corned Beef ?
Nov 19th, 2011 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0chicken tikka masala is our new national dish , do try to keep up fanta
sergio vega....
Nov 19th, 2011 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0tell as the list of your trade transactions with the fuc***land islands so we can understand you better. well, pinochets revindication, a dictator, says it all of you.
Arg doesnt imposses others countries to choose us. Is a reality we choose between us. Millars of argentines go to Uruguay on vacations, the more rich and in one month only they benefit a lot Uruguay. The same way happens the other way.
Fuc***land islands seems to trade with Uruguay, buying onions ,embryons, beef.
and we have had the guts to face issues by our own in 1982, although its not the way. and we did it alone, as far as I know your country helped britian interests instead. so stop saying nonsense.
and if this is not a peaceful zone, then you can go on vacations to Libya, Afghanistán, Iraq, pacificate zones by NATO and enjoy your vacations. send us photos.
such stupidity is dropping from some heads as they cant see more than what they have in front their eyes. im talking in general not in personnal way.
55 fantazum2011
Nov 19th, 2011 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's quite funny actually
57 malen
You're not funny or clever. ''Fuc***land islands'' ??? Pitiful. You must be desperate.
“@15 South Africa, Australia, Canada, India, etc... can stand on their own feet. And Malvinas case is different. They hold it for Anctarctica.”
Nov 19th, 2011 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just to inform you. When the UK gave up New Zeland and Australia the UK gave up the majority of the Antartic contenent. There were no and still are no other claims to this part of Antartica(Uk's claim was once like 70% of Antartica.).
M_of_FI: Your “You say” And “I say:” Is sounding an awful lot like Think! I think he's infecting you.
Comrade Pepe Che Mugica is a notorious Argentinean 5th columnist! He should be deported to Martin Garcia Island, which is situated in Argentinean waters, excuse me in Uruguayan waters!
Nov 19th, 2011 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
it will be interesting, in the new year,
Nov 19th, 2011 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the new type 45, goes in his first deployment,
And a small task of ships heading south, for the 30th celebrations.
It will be interesting what south American countries want or allow the royal navy to visit them,
What are the chances that they are welcomed, or refused, [anyone ]
Who gives a shit whether Uruguay allows port facilities for the Type 45, I understand its range is 7,000 miles, a full 3,000 miles greater than the Type 42, so once it has bunkered at Ascension Island, it doesn't need to use a Southern Cone Port to reach either the FI or SGSSI, having thousands of miles of range to spare.
Nov 20th, 2011 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, we would be happy to visit our Chilean friends to continue the long established association between Chile and the UK, and in particular, the Chilean Navy; and also exercise with the Brazilian Navy as a part of the 2010 Bi-lateral Defence Cooperation Treaty.
If Uruguay wishes to pander to its bullying neighbour, fine, makes little difference to us does it?
However, maybe its time Uruguay grew a pair of balls and tells Argentina it doesn't believe in the fairy story its been peddling since the 1930s, and wants nothing to do with the Bi-lateral dispute between Argentina and the UK.
There is no need for any military ship in Latinamerica, or has the UK ever let a Uruguayan ship in rute to occupy a european land anywhere ever ? I guess not, so why does UK think they can bring arms everywhere they go ?? besides the british illegal aliens in Malvinas or otherways occupyers have all the freedom and democracy in their home land UK, in Islas Malvinas Argentina this pirats have as much rights as an Argentine in Canada. there is a solution to all this GTFO and quit pesting in someone elses land.
Nov 20th, 2011 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Latin america has the pair of balls to say your fairy tail is not true.
Nov 20th, 2011 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0and that is what bothers you most. and are always trying to divide, divide and divide here in this MP pasquin payed by FI (fu***lands islands). thats what your country always does to make prevale their own interests of usurpating, stealing and colonizing.
Latin America has no B*lls at all!
Nov 20th, 2011 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have 178 years of evidence :-)
64 malen
Nov 20th, 2011 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You offer your neighbours threats and intimidation, an infringement on their sovereign rights and a hindrance to their economy.
We offer them school exchanges, cricket tours, agricultural and fishing expertise..... I know which I would choose.
You might prevail in the end but it doesn't make you right.
We do this because we want to be good neighbours and live here peacefully. The 'divide, divide....' nonsense is your choice.It doesn't have to be that way.
Argentines seem to believe they have international support for their ambitions to become an Imperial power lording it over the Southern Cone nations via expanded “living space” to Terra del Fuego, the Beagle Channel, parts of the Chilean border, Paraguayan border, Uruguayan border, Falklands, South Georgia, South Shetland Islands, South Orkney Islands, British Antarctic Territory and Chilean Antarctic Territory.
Nov 20th, 2011 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact is the international community were almost 100% against Argentina in 1982, even Russia sided with Britain. It's a bit like Iraq's claims to Kuwait in 1990, the world including America paid lip service to Saddam Husain's demands. America even encouraged them [read wikileaks April Galespi and the Iraq conspiracy http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4680963 ]and then when they invaded the US turned on Iraq and unleashed the mother of all international military coalitions against the Iraqi military.
What I see in the case of Argentina, is a lot of lip service from the Southern Cone to Argentina's psychotic President in order to keep her quiet from her insane OCD preoccupation with some small islands and 3,500 people. But in the shadows I'm sure the clever people see this as a way to remove Argentina from the South American power equation. A future war with Britain, would now involve NATO and the EU as both recognise British sovereignty of the Falklands, indeed the Falklands are also part of the EU. An attack on the Falklands would be an attack on NATO, the same way 911 [false flag] was defined as an attack on not just America but NATO.
Argentina is a dangerous nationalistic country, that requires political reform and democratisation. Maybe it's defeat in the coming war with the UK and NATO will help reshape Argentina and knock some sense into them?
Urugay is puppet of NWO and is run by cabal of theives. WHO care for these people? They will soon be part of Greater Argentina, like las Malvinas, Islas Sandwich del Sur, Georgias del Sur, Islas Orkney del Sur, Terra del Fuego, Chile and Paraguay.
Nov 20th, 2011 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WE WILL CONTROL ALL LATIN AMERICA.
PIRATES WILL BE EXTERMINATED AND THEIR FARMS TAKEN OVER BY VETERANS. WE WILL KNOCK DOWN ALL COLONIAL HOUSES TO STOP PESTS RETURNING. IN PLACE WE WILL BUILD A CITY BASED ON CONCORDIA AND IT WILL BE CALLED PUERTO ARGENTINO AND WILL FORCE POPULATION TO MOVE TO LAS MALVINAS AND SERVE IN ARMY TO PROTECT ISLAND WHILE CITY IN ARGENTINA IS BULLDOZED TO BUILD PROPER TOWN.
I DO NOT LIKE URYAGAY PEOPLE.
For those decent argentine people, that believe that Argentina is an innocent home loving peace loving no threatening country,
Nov 20th, 2011 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please note some indoctrinated bloggers who would throw you all to the lions, to get their own way,
Would you come under the yolk that wants to destroy everything you stand for?
Or remain British and enjoy the spoils of freedom .
Justa thought .
The nationalists put on the patriot record in 1982 and it is still stuck on play, while they pine for a lost war and military junta soaked in Argentine blood, they make excuses and say they had to kill the terrorists. For terrorists, read right wing government provocateurs about 100 dead to the tens of thousands murdered by their government, tortured, raped, kicked out of the back of aircraft over the sea. Operation Condor, the CIA's programme of political genocide in Latin America is now well documented but to our nationalists it is to be over looked, it doesn't exist, they can read the official documents but not see them. Show them the documents and they will see nothing. If it goes against their image of the heroic Argentine and the brave military struggle against the Amerindians, the political left and everyone else it isn't true. All across the internet, wikipedia, etc they edit anything critical of Argentina, the Conquest of the Desert read 1,500 Indians killed for attacking government troops and civilians, rather than the millions killed for no reason other than they were not European and not part of the system, everything is edited, changed, the truth becomes a lie. The Argentine right wing are a mind controller's dream come true!
Nov 20th, 2011 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is Filippo a spoof account?
Nov 21st, 2011 - 06:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Someone must know.
@71Wireless,
Nov 21st, 2011 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, just a complete raving idiot, but it's fun to read his/her/it's profound comments.
He's nearly as bonkers as miss resentful malen's ridiculous versions of truth & history. That one seriously needs help.
Good old Flip-Flop is out on Day-release from the nut house and even he admits that they would have to force an Argentine to live in the place.
Nov 21st, 2011 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact is the international community were almost 100% against Argentina in 1982, even Russia sided with Britain.
Nov 21st, 2011 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW,crook: The international comunity was against the use of force,not the claim.
No body wants the uk in SA!!
The south atlantic for the people who lives here.Argentina,Uruguay,Paraguay,Brazil..all outsiders-OUT!!
you left out the falklands,
Nov 21st, 2011 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they live there .
you left out the falklands,
Nov 21st, 2011 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they live there .
But not you britton,why do you care???
Are you richer because of Malvinas in the hands of the brits???
So why do you care??
I do not live there. I care. I am British. I care.
Nov 21st, 2011 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Briton is British , so he cares too.
We all care - which is why you have no chance of stealing our islands.
Clear ?
thank you Redhoyt
Nov 22nd, 2011 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 076 Malvinero1 , im british and proud of it,
and im not rich either,
ok.
Yes, malen, I´m Pinochetista that is better that be a Kichnerista.......
Nov 22nd, 2011 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please, don´t be a liar, you know that all the fairy tale you have built about your rights over tha Falklands Islands is just a myth that even your brainwashed kids don´t eat it......It´s just a political issue to hide the internal problems and win elections (like the 34% of the great BA inhabitants lives under the poverty line despite the lot of money wasted by CFK to bribe them to vote her)......
And yes, we make business with the falklands Islands because it´s good for both of us. And this South Cone of America have been peacefully from the day you lost the war when you invaded a neighbor country on 1982.....from then on you have not had the capability to threat your neighbors by the force, just through your arbitrary change of the rules in business and coexistence.
and yes, we supported UK and Falklands Is. because you were a permanent threat up to June 1982 (I suffered you warm hospitality on 1979 as truck owner that neede to travel through Patagonia to reach Santiago).
May be you´r not old enough to know about those friendly days between your country and mine.
do not live there. I care. I am British. I care.
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Briton is British , so he cares too.
We all care - which is why you have no chance of stealing our islands.
Clear ?
Is not over!
Only is over when Argentina says is over!!
Argentina will last longer than uk,that is a fact!!
payback time......remember when the brits cuts the finger of the Indian women so the brit textriles can sell the garments??/It is payback time.....
Clear ?
Nov 24th, 2011 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is not over!
Really did you not surrender in 1982 ??
Only is over when Argentina says is over!!////
But don’t you still have to be a country and alive to say them words
When you have beaten and crushed your enemies, [but you lost ]
Argentina will last longer than uk, that is a fact!!////
[does this the land or the people on it]
[The British have been around since before the Romans]
Argentina,, less time than it takes to change a babies nappy. ?
Payback time......remember when the brits cuts the finger of the Indian women so the brits textiles can sell the garments??/It is payback time////
Just like all the murder and slaughter your country has committed, [please]
[pot][kettle][black]
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@ 76 you're so innocent lol, briton doesn't care about the islands or the islanders, the islands is only an excuse, he's just an Argie- hater, that's all, but you can lead him through life by his pierced nose like a cow, he's not a danger. Tell him up briton, down briton, and he will do that exactly.
Nov 24th, 2011 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 082 xbarilox A man who knows how to treat dogs,[chili]
Nov 24th, 2011 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he who casts the first stone, tries to silence the truth,
envy xboxy just envy .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N5b6R7ZmoA
Nov 25th, 2011 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Hostility is not the way we have chosen but we must seek integration and military ties with our neightbours. I confronted her Majesty and the UK by denying entry to British vessels because I don´t want our ports to serve as support to the UK to come in and out from MALVINAS. They´re on their own in this”.
Malvinas has become a regional cause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N5b6R7ZmoA
I confronted her Majesty and the UK //says 84 Islas Malvinas
Nov 25th, 2011 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0im surprised you knew them,
“After this I`ve gained a place in the Queens ”Black List“”
Nov 26th, 2011 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0And everybody laugh... ha ha ha ha
No body gives a dime
A deluded man who thinks that he is so importent that the SAS may pay him a visit,
Nov 26th, 2011 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0rather than his own vanity at the asylum,
odd boy.
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