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UK new strategy for Overseas Territories to be discussed at the Consultative Council
Falkland Islands representatives will be attending the annual Overseas Territories Consultative Council on November 23/24 in London when the British Government's new strategy for its Overseas Territories will be at the heart of discussions. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment ruleswhat happened? now suddenly the overseas territories are important? the sky's not looking so bright, it seems that there is a storm coming closer and closer
Nov 22nd, 2011 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A strong demonstration of our increased support for the Territories was provided by this Government’s decision to build a new airport on St Helena
Nov 22nd, 2011 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May I suggest that the islander representatives, press the government on what they intend to do with all the harm that Argentina is doing to the islanders,
A suggestion that perhaps the British government provide more stead fast deterrent and more robust in it treatment of argentine intrusions,
A suggestion that perhaps if the government cannot or will not stop the harassment , then perhaps a tit for tat be made available,
Perhaps a good time also to see if the attitudes of the rest of the overseas territories have changed in their support for the islanders, rather that the disgraceful lies put out by Argentina,
Just a thought, just an opinion
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A good time to sit down and discuss the sovereignty of the Islands and comply with resolution 2065 (XX) of 1965, ratified by later resolutions 1973 (3160, XXVIII) 1976 (31/49), 1982 (37 / 9), 1983 (38/12), 1984 (39 / 6), 1985 (40/21), 1986 (41/40), 1987 (42/19) and 1988 (43/25). They all declare the existence of a sovereignty dispute and reaffirm the invitation made in resolution 2065 (XX) Parties (Argentina and the United Kingdom) ”to proceed without delay with the negotiations recommended by the Ad Hoc Committee on the Situation with regarding the implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of independence to colonial Countries and Peoples, to find a peaceful solution to the problem, taking due account of the provisions and objectives of the United Nations Charter and Resolution 1514 (XV), and the interests of the population Malvinas.A Islands since 2004, the Argentine government to the Malvinas Islands Question to appear on the permanent agenda and in the paper by the Bureau of the General Assembly.
Nov 22nd, 2011 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a thought, just an opinion
Resolution 2065, bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the Charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV).
Nov 22nd, 2011 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Resolution 1514 (XV), Which states: All peoples have the right to self-determination.
Raul. In your own quote.. What part of “Granting of independence” requires any hand over or talks of sovereignty with Argentina? Independance is something they shall have when THEY, Not you, decide.
perhaps argentina should really declare her intentions of the falkland islands,
Nov 22nd, 2011 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0does she intend to
1, give them independence
2, keep them for herself, and add them to argentine growing empire,
just a thought .
What negotiation?
Nov 22nd, 2011 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When Argentina dictates the outcome, insists the islanders have no voice, what room exists to negotiate?
If you can think anyone is going to capitulate to Argentine demands, you're deluded.
Raul
Nov 22nd, 2011 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about resolution 502 (1982) which:
”Demands an immediate withdrawal of all Argentine forces from the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)“ and ”Demands an immediate cessation of hostilities”?
Neither were complied with. It was issued on 3rd April 1982. That was 20 days before our task force arrived in Falklands' waters, 19 days before the first attempt to retake South Georgia and 23 days before we succeeded. 29 days before the first SAS landings on the Falklands and the first open hostilities (Black Buck), and 30 days before we sunk the ARA General Belgrano. It was 49 days before the first assault on the Falkland Islands.
pre emptive war with Argentina, sinking the Argentine fleet (all 5 boats) would solve the problem.
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0We all hope that the UK new strategy for “Overseas Territories” is a clear plan to end this non sense of colonial outposts around the globe in the 21 st century.
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Resolutions that go to the heart of the UN's Charter are alive and well eg 1514
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 04:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Resolutions that deal with specific circumstances are affected by events and can die eg 2065
Have you forgotten Rolly, 2065 was killed by Argentina in 1982 !
@8
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 05:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0hey we could just send nick clegg to the islands for a few days, given how terrified argentina is of the prince training there, the deputy prime minister may well scare them into official disarmament (as opposed to the unofficial but still pretty damn real disarmament they have now)
On the day the world end's, God and the Devil will be dividing up the souls when the argi's turn up' Gods says to the Devil you can have this lot, and the Devil replays no thank you, God thinks for a minuet then says to the argis Hell is not yours, and with that all the argis rush into Hell, God smiles at the Devil and says now that was so easy.
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0little isle needs water de dónde sea
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGUucUyJU&feature
Good Idea Braedon. Preferably we would send him to the British Antarctic Territory so he cannot bother anyone.
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGUuc4_UyJU
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 015 malen
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guess what, Malen; Britain doesn't own us and doesn't control our territorial waters. Apart from that, your video is just fabulous. Good effort.
Love it :-)
Nov 23rd, 2011 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/42902/falklands-are-we-ready-latest-threat-s-america
Particularly the 'mutton' bit :-))
WHAT We need is some good old British news .
Nov 24th, 2011 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cold War in the South Atlantic. , coupled with strong naval forces,
as I said before we have HMS Enterprise on its way,
Now we follow up with
The Royal Navy’s new ice patrol ship, HMS Protector
http://bfbs.com/news/worldwide/ships-mission-map-frozen-continent-53689.html
HMS Montrose anchored off the volcanic outpost of Ascension Island
She also is on her way to the Falklands .
http://bfbs.com/news/worldwide/ships-mission-map-frozen-continent-53689.html
And even more good news,
UK’S FIRST NEXT-GENERATION JET FIGHTER COMPLETED23/11/2011
http://bfbs.com/news/worldwide/ships-mission-map-frozen-continent-53689.html
its to be A nice British Christmas in the Falklands then ..
http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/42902/falklands-are-we-ready-latest-threat-s-america
Nov 24th, 2011 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you up for it?
a national G spot hahaha
Nov 24th, 2011 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 15 sos tan pelot*da que no se puede creer
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/19/falkland-islands-editorial?INTCMP=SRCH
Nov 24th, 2011 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland Islands: Imperial pride
@ 3 Raul, this is a direct quote from you.
Nov 24th, 2011 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Granting of independence to colonial Countries and Peoples, to find a peaceful solution to the problem, taking due account of the provisions and objectives of the United Nations Charter and Resolution 1514 (XV), and the interests of the population Malvinas”
If the people of the Falklands are colonised by the British (according to Argentines), then a transfer of sovereignty to Argentina will be regarded as colonisation, as the people of the Falklands share more heritage and ancestral links with Britain than with Argentina. Also, that is not mentioning the fact that we are self-governing with our own autonomous democracy, therefore not a colony.
How is the colonisation of the Falklands people by Argentina in the interests of the Falklands people? I am one of those people, and I have no interest in being colonised by Argentina.
You’re argument in horrendously flawed Raul. But in anticipation of your retort I am sure with your twisted and nonsensical logic, you will tell me that the colonisation of the Falklands people by Argentina is in the interests of the Falklands people!
@ 22 No, that's a lie, you are not a self-governing democracy, because you are not a country, you are not an independent nation, your governor is an English man, and the real government that gives the orders lives in London, that's England. But you live there, so I think that the islands belong to you, but don't lie anymore, one can accept that you want to stay British, but don't tell stupid things like you are a self-governing whatever because you are not. And I tell you even more, none of you are common or regular islanders, and I'm sure about that, you are all part of the British government in the islands. But then again the islands belong to the islanders.
Nov 24th, 2011 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0♪♫ With the Empire tumbling down, let no islanders back the crown.
Nov 24th, 2011 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Las Islas Malvinas Argentinas ♪♫
Xbox, we are a self-governing democracy. We have our own Government (which I work for) and a democracy (which I have voted in many times). We do not take any orders from the UK Government. I know this as I see the day to day operations of the Falklands Government with my own eyes and I have been involved in the high level strategy within Government, and trust me, there is no UK Government involvement.
Nov 24th, 2011 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Xbox, how you can tell me that I am wrong? You have no idea what you are talking about as you are 300 miles away, never been to the Falklands and you base your interpretation on what you hear in Argentina. I live and work in the Falklands and see what you dispute everyday with my own eyes and experience it every day. How can youre lazy interpretation 300 miles away trump what I have seen and done? It is because you are wrong. And I know that for a fact.
23 xbarilox
Nov 24th, 2011 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you a British troll by any chance?
Anyway, a question for other Falkland Islanders:
Is there an argument for changing the title of the Governor to something that makes it clear that he doesn't actually govern us?
nope
Nov 24th, 2011 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yepe
Nov 24th, 2011 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 028 xbarilox , yeh you would love that wouldn’t you, islanders being gentle persuaded to change ones perceptions, ,
Nov 24th, 2011 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If not by war, then by skulduggery persuasions charm and blackmail,
They are not as silly as you think they are,
Argentina on the other hand may not be clever enough.[Justa thought ]
“No, that's a lie, you are not a self-governing democracy,”
Nov 24th, 2011 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aren't they. Perhaps you would like to give one single example in the last twenty years that London has forced upon them rather than them deciding to do it themselves?
“you are not an independent nation”
They never stated to be one.
“your governor is an English man”
A position that is ceremonial. Much like the queens. If you honestly believe this you must also believe that Canada and Australia are also just colonys and we controll them. You are wrong.
@ 30 Canada and Australia can give their people Canadian and Australian passports, the islanders can't give themselves Falklandian (?)passports, simply because the islands are not an independent country. Can't you see? you can't say that you are a country, but only a democracy. You can live there for as long as you wish, but don't lie anymore about being a self-governing democracy, because you are not.
Nov 25th, 2011 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0We are a self-governing democracy Xbox. Face that fact, or you will live in denial for the rest of your life. Come visit the Secretariat in the Falklands. Or Gilbert House. Or the Minerals Department. Or any other Government Department and enlighten yourself.
Nov 25th, 2011 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See how we govern ourselves. Go to Gilbert House and see how our democratically elected MLAs make decisions and govern the Falklands. If you do, your whole world will melt away and that little pleasant and convenient bubble will burst.
Xbox clearly doesn't get the definiton of a country. Just a hint, nowhere in the definition of the word does it mention passport.
Nov 26th, 2011 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0FIG does issue passports btw and you can renew them at their office in London.
Nov 26th, 2011 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.oagtravel.com/Guides/Countries/Passport-Visa-Information?country_id_select=111905&country_id=111905&action=0
A thought:
Nov 29th, 2011 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fighting between British Islanders. It is clear that some islanders have an identity problem, think they are a country, when in fact they are not and have their own authorities, who are British. An example of this is that they have a governor appointed by London to rule.
That's why decolonization committee of United Nations did not take them seriously because they constantly have it both ways.
Constantly speak of self-determination when it is clear that they are governed by the United Kingdom.
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