British Prime Minister David Cameron reiterated before Parliament his support for the Overseas Territories, including the Falkland Islands, and their right to remain British. Cameron made special mention to the fact that next year in the anniversary of the liberation of the Falklands “which will be a moment for genuine celebration in all Overseas Territories” Read full article
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Overseas Territories will remain British as long as the UK can hold them.Dec 02nd, 2011 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
LOL, OMG the UK is cittung social budget, firing people and they want to celebrate about malvinas?Dec 02nd, 2011 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
and then the british say they dont fall into Populism...jaja very funny
They celebrate the union flag still remains flying in sixteen British Overseas Territories around the world. They know they should better start the party before it`s too late...Dec 02nd, 2011 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
cittung ?Dec 02nd, 2011 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
well done Three Stooges
Islas Malvinas, you guys better not start your recuperacion de nuestras islas malvinas party too soon though, like you did in 1982...Dec 02nd, 2011 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
British troops can now reach the Falklands in less than 15 hours. With their equipment. AND refuelling additional Typhoons on the way. Without landing anywhere. Isn't that GOOD!Dec 02nd, 2011 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
And the Falklands WILL remain British for as long as the Islanders wish.
England !! give up your overseas strategy dreaming !!Dec 02nd, 2011 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
you are medium sized country,
you have some banks who have foreigners' money,
you are mere a bit in raw material business,
you have nothing in even with Australia trade :
UK is 7 th trade partner in Aussie exporting is ..7608 million US $
UK is 8 th trade partner in Aussie importing is ..5876 million US $
what an overseas strategy ?? !!
**6 ConDec 02nd, 2011 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
are you still here ??!!
remember ..i had sent to Kiribati ??
GeoDec 02nd, 2011 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
When will yu learn?
ENGLAND will not have any say whatsoever. It is the UK, not England that you are dealing with here.
Scientists have discovered a new micro bacterial life, they have named it Argentinas taurum mauris,Dec 02nd, 2011 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
it as a two stage life life cycle, first stage is infantile were it is feed copious amounts of Bull S—t, the second stage is senile were it regurgitates the Bull S—t so it can be re-feed to the next generation, all thou it is invasive it is very easy to get shot of it just yell bang and it will clear off fast.
** 9 SamDec 02nd, 2011 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
i am aware of their differences.
i said ... England give up .. not UK
i gave some trade numbers on UK not England..
Should it ever come to a conflict between Argentina and the UK, the people I will feel sorry for are the airmen who will have to fly the Argentinean fast jets that were good when they were new, but that was 40 years ago.Dec 02nd, 2011 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Mirage 3 & 5s which are suffering airframe fatigue to the point that they fall out of the sky, killing pilots are no way to go to war. The Typhoon is a cutting edge airplane more than capable of killing three or more Mirage each. Regrettably the brave pilots in them will die for nothing.
Do you think that CFK will even consider this before acting? I do hope so, but think not.
Celebrating a great victory and the liberation of the Islands is truly a just cause. Unfortuantly the Argies appear hell bent on celebrating the start of the killing. This should show everyone what a despicable bunch these national socialists are.Dec 02nd, 2011 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
It has also dawned on Argentina that they can do nothing to change our position. They are ineffective, useless and lack any spine.
They have two options, Military or Legal. They are unwilling as well as unable to do either.
The drill bit keeps on turning and the next rig in on the way. Rule Britannia!
the funniest part is that the UK government is using populism to distract the british about their crysis problems...Dec 02nd, 2011 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
let them celebrate, soon or later europe will fall and the UK even when they dont use the euro, they will pain with the rest...
how are things going with Iran ? the UK spend too much money in useless wars that now they are almost defenseless...
ask for help to the United states...oh of curse they are screwed too cueck
** 13 BeefDec 02nd, 2011 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
your comment is a bit emotional / nervous !!
** BeefDec 02nd, 2011 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Kiribati has no exporting to UK
it imports 237.000 US $/2010 from UK ( & / & )
(it's importing were 1-2 billons US $ in 2008/09 years
any trade embargo on UK ??)
could you say what kinds of goods are ( & / & ) ??
Searinox.Dec 02nd, 2011 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I think you have HM government a bit wrong there.
Our government, media and population don't obsess about the Falkland Islands, as you apparently do. Such a statement as that would not even get a reporting in the press, save perhaps as a space filler as a tabloid newspaper. The Falkland Islands come up a few times a year in the press but otherwise the press sticks with economics and domestic news.
a crass colonial power in decline. this is too sad to see.Dec 02nd, 2011 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Searinox - so you forget the sins Iran committed in Argentina? Well if you lot now admire the actions of your Junta then I suppose Itan is mere child's play.Dec 02nd, 2011 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
If we are defenseless then what are you waiting for. Military or Legal? Which one?
Geo - why would I be nervous. I am sat on a gold mine with RKH :-)
X-box - how good are pensions in Argentina? The land of the worthless peso (even your gvt don't want them) and rampant inflation. As we are all living longer in the UK then it makes sense to work for a bit more. If you want to retire early then take an individual choice and generate more personal wealth.
Still waiting for a legal challenge or military intervention. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
Great to see Mr Cameron is prepared to stand up and show his support for all the oversea territories it sends a clear message to any hostile country that the UK is ready to respond to ANY need!!!!!!Dec 02nd, 2011 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Long Live the Falklands.
@5 Roberts:Dec 02nd, 2011 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Military exercises sorrounding Malvinas last week... Don`t worry. This is just to keep the UK wastinig money sending battleships to Malvinas... Just like the warning about putting an end to the flights from Rio Gallegos... that made the UK biuld and airport is Saint Helena... Let`s see for how long people in the UK will agree with this waste of money, given the crisis in Europe.
lol and were suppose to be intimidated by a few outdated recon planes, out dated fighter jets and a few rowing boats.Dec 02nd, 2011 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
As for the air bridge and airport at st helena, well the airport had been in planning for the best part of a decade, so the threat of argentina closing the air bridge played no part in the plans to build an airport in st helena. Plus the air bridge can simply fly round argentinan air space anyway dumbass.
@21 Islas MalvinasDec 02nd, 2011 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Just like the warning about putting an end to the flights from Rio Gallegos... that made the UK biuld and airport is Saint Helena
The decision to build an airstrip was forced by the imminent retirement of RMS St Helena, currently the island's only lifeline to the world.
The cost of replacing the ship would be around £60 million while the airstrip is likely to cost in excess of £100 million.
Mr Mitchell said: ”It's time to stop the years of dithering and give the people of St Helena the decision they have been waiting for since an airport was first promised by the Government in 2003
Let`s see for how long people in the UK will agree with this waste of money, given the crisis in Europe
Money well spent looking after our own,as you can see we have money to spare
The UK & the 0.7% aid target, and the Draft International Development (ODA Target) Bill
Islas - a 10 yr old with a spud gun could shoot down your pathetic excuse for a military. You will find that your military exercises were no where near to the FI. BTW click on your link to total news and read a post at the bottom. I have ran it through google translate:Dec 02nd, 2011 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
2. Written by on 12/01/2011 9:39 justo55 Now remember, after the Armed Forces dismantled, so please do not deployed to scare anyone, just make shit of laughter to the Queen of UK. Best to keep the junk in the museum and leave things as they are, because here there is no bureaucracy to do, we have no international diplomatic support and without it one can not advance.
At least there is one sane Argie out there who recognizes that you have no international diplomatic support!
Who is going to pay for that celebration ? The UK tax payer ?? LOL Celebrate for as long as you can before it all starts going downhill !!Dec 02nd, 2011 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
ohh wait, it already didl, fool me
Islas - a 10 yr old with a spud gun could shoot down your pathetic excuse for a military.Dec 02nd, 2011 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Islas- suggest you check facts before opening mouth and inserting foot - Airport on St Helena in for misd sized jets to and from Africa - NOT a long runway long haul so not a staging point to Falklands - we already have one - Ascension Island you see!Dec 02nd, 2011 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
As for closing off the flight from RioGallegos - do it please - its only once a month anyway! Its actually the Lan flight from Chile surely that you might try to stop- as before - get facts in order!!
For a decade or more Argh spouted false rhetoric about the Islands and Uk just quietly ignored it and got on with life. Now not just the Islands, but the UK Govt as well are pissed off and fed up with the continual diretribe and lies and bullshit that comes out of Buenos Aires - THAT is why UK is upping military presence in the area etc and carrying out a more offensive diplomacy as well. - YOU lot started it!
And once old UK gets pushed into starting something - they have a first class record of WINNING.
I see there's another old bys club being set up - more business class flights for those politicians - must be hell !Dec 02nd, 2011 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Apparently it was offered that the royal navy could field up to 35 ships for the celebration,Dec 03rd, 2011 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
But this was thought to be either an embarrassment or provocative to the argie cry babies,
So only a little force may attend,
2x type 45s
4x typ23 frigates,
1 helicopter carrier,
4x mine hunters/sweepers,
3x royal fleet auxiliary protection ships,
1x astute submarine,
Still true or false,
No matter what the British send,
The Argies will complain, but the envy will be seen in the blogg, and in their papers,
Justa sailing thought .
29 britonDec 03rd, 2011 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
just a have look, It is for you mate
And this is for you kiwi, I love a happy endingDec 03rd, 2011 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
yawn!Dec 03rd, 2011 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@#21Dec 03rd, 2011 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Your military couldn't pull the skin off a custard Malvinas Argentinas, even if it tried. And you have no legal case either otherwise you'd have taken it to the ICJ by now. Like I said, don't go starting your recuperation de las Malvinas party too soon...
@malvinistas,Dec 03rd, 2011 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
We're still here, ladies & gents. We're getting richer while you're getting poorer.
As Beef says, Court or War. You decide.
Talking, talking, always talking, it will get you no-where.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Court or War, or shut up.
It is clear that David Cameron, the conflict has gotten out of hand. Now this on the agenda of global public opinion is evidenced by his desperate reaction.Dec 03rd, 2011 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Argentina has managed to grow global awareness of the conflict.
It really is a gesture of mediocrity and stupidity to say it will be a moment of genuine celebration in all overseas territories, is equivalent to betting on the terror and fear through NATO. Bet on terrorism and not dialogue. Examples include humanitarian bombing carried out in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan U.S. accompanying these violations. Why world opinion is against the UK.
Pathetic is the response of David Cameron, it is believed God, believe that the history of mankind is the exclusive property of the United Kingdom. Latin America supports the claims, both MERCOSUR and UNASUR as the United Nations, G-77 and now the CELAC. While everyone supports to resolve the conflict through dialogue, (just observe the UN resolutions such as 2065 (XX) of 1965, ratified by later resolutions 1973 (3160) 1976 (31/49), 1982 ( 37 / 9), 1983 (38/12), 1984 (39 / 6), 1985 (40/21), 1986 (41/40), 1987 (42/19) and 1988 (43/25) England bid to terrorism .
England is in an unprecedented economic crisis and needs to distract domestic public opinion in England. Looking for an armed conflict to hide its economic crisis.
As our president says it well: The Argentines never believed in the endpoints, or human rights, much less our sovereign rights over the Malvinas Islands and insisted that only mediocrity and arrogance can put an end the Argentine claim over the islands under British rule since 1833.
Argentina's main weapon is the abandonment of the arms race and proceed with its proposal for dialogue, consensus building and international peace. This mystifies David Cameroon that more and more often have to explain to the world of his policy was wrong turns on him.
35 RaulDec 03rd, 2011 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
''“The Argentines never believed in the endpoints, or human rights,'' ??
Well you got that right. That might just be the first sensible thing you've said on here.
@35 The UK does not need to talk to argentina as there is NO pressure on the UK to do so, all the groups that you mention have given verbal agreement on negotation only ! and not agreeing to it simply being handed over to a banana republic like argentina. As for the cost of a British garrison on the Falklands its a snip at less than 100 million pounds!! the UK gives food aid more than 1o times that amount to Africa alone.Dec 03rd, 2011 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
,nice to see the you-tubes,Dec 03rd, 2011 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
but sadly irrelevant, Argentina lost, and we have replaced all the ships.
Some get confused with sinking ship, as to their duty, these ships are and were expected to be used as screens, all navies have them, they are basically their as the first line of defence, and will inevitably get it first,
Today it it projection of power if the need arises, the ships mearly forfill that roll,
Just to protect our own,
As our president says it well
Argentines never believed in the endpoints, or human rights, or our sovereign rights over the Malvinas Islands”[Falklands]
[[only mediocrity and arrogance can put an end to it , ]]
This is what you have been doing for the past couple of years,
The government sees it as a sideshow of minor importance, on argentines part,
But when the government wakes up the fact that Argentina, wishes to become ,
More than a side show, but the main attraction, then the Argies had better hope their government can afford the high price wanted by actors, because the price may well be very high.
We are busy at the moment, Syria Iran EU Monetary union , afghan, but we still have our eye on the ball,
And the union jack is still in the Atlantic, [all of it ]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BniyC33QdjMDec 03rd, 2011 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
♪♫ Las Islas Malvinas Argentinas ♪♫
Good idea Rolly, abandon your arms, cancel the nuclear submarine, become a pacifist nation - that'll help :-)Dec 03rd, 2011 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I wonder how Mr Cameron purports to organize the celebration with thousands of old people dying from fuel poverty in the old country?Dec 04th, 2011 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Oh yes, the starving masses of old England lolDec 04th, 2011 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Still, those poor people can always sell one of their flat screen TV's ....
that's the problem with poverty ... it's relative !
Let's not talk about relatives ..... :-(
@ 42Dec 04th, 2011 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
You're lucky living in another country :)
@43 xbarilox,Dec 04th, 2011 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Don't believe much of what you read in the Guardian.
lts a red ragging communist newspaper with it's own agenda.
ln ALL newspapers there are many lies & it's one of the worst.
41 O garaDec 04th, 2011 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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What are the Argies doing about kids dying of hunger in food rich Argentina
BUENOS AIRES, Feb 21, 2011 (IPS) - Despite years of strong economic growth, record harvests and massive social assistance programmes, there are still places in Argentina untouched by the boom, where child malnutrition has even claimed lives”
There is no doubt serious.problems of poverty remain in the North of Argentina and parts of Gran Buenos Aires but the situation but the situation is clearly improving every year the opposite to England where the situation is clearly regressing and by its own governments admission will continue to do so until 2017.The Telegraph ardent conservative mouth piece is one of the clearest in its admission of the apalling situation of the underclass in modern England.I am merely reporting from English media dont shoot the messengerDec 04th, 2011 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
England where the situation is clearly regressingDec 04th, 2011 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Cant be that bad,seeing we donate 0.7 of GDP In aid,must lobby my MP to see about keeping Argie children from starving
Britain donates more in foreign aid than ever before, with a budget set to eclipse that of the Home Office within four years. As Liam Fox raises concerns, Channel 4 News looks at where the money goes.
Dying from hunger in food-exporting Argentina
Just the same old repetitive whining from the Argentinian Flat Earth Society. I will derive some satisfaction from the 30th Anniversary of the British Victory celebrations next year, while remembering my lost comrades who did not return.Dec 04th, 2011 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Children dying of starvation in the streets of London - a terrible sight !Dec 04th, 2011 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
No money for a new Ipad - starved of a good gaming session !
Sad, aint it :-)
Nobody said anything about starving to death dear boy you really have a literacy problem.What the Guardian and Telegraph are saying is that due to fuel poverty 25000 English people will die this winter.Its not La Nacion its not Pagina 12 its your own serious press but I guess you dont read that in Murdochs Sun.Dec 04th, 2011 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
OK ! let's look at some literacy numbers ( Source : OECD)Dec 04th, 2011 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
500 = OECD average ( Ml = Males ...Fm = Females)
COMBINED READING LITERACY :
UK = Ml:480 ..Fm:510
Aussie = Ml : 495 ...Fm : 532
Korea = Ml : 539 .. Fm : 574
Sweden = Ml : 488 ... Fm : 528
MATHEMATICAL LITERACY :
UK = Ml :504 ... Fm : 487
Aussie = Ml : 527 ... Fm: 513
Korea = Ml : 552 ... Fm : 543
Sweden = Ml : 505 ... Fm : 500
SCIENTIFIC LITERACY :
UK = Ml : 520 ... Fm : 510
Aussie = Ml : 527 ... Fm : 527
Korea = Ml : 521 ... Fm : 523
Sweden = Ml : 504 ... Fm : 503
51 geoDec 04th, 2011 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
''OK ! let's look at some “” literacy “” numbers''
I mean really why? Do you have a point?
WTF does this have to do with anything?
Why didn't you include Argentina? At least that would have been interesting and marginally relevant.
**52 MontyDec 04th, 2011 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
please calm down ! UK has passed over by many many countries.
This is reality despite of unseen numbers by Brits !!
i think that Argentina should not be rival /competitor of UK ..
their real rivals are Australia ,New Zealand ....aren 't they ??
(50) O’GaraDec 04th, 2011 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I had a similar debate last year when some Anglos amused themselves over the death of indigent Argentineans during our winter:
Since there are so many people living in slums you should actually pity them more, they use cheap, sometimes homemade, gas fired space heaters that emit carbon monoxide and kill everyone on their sleep. Wait until Monday to see how many people died from asphyxiation.
Could they all get out and have a march?
A march; that won´t do any good! The government has already announced that gas supply is going as planned.
My reply was:
I had no intention of commenting this weather article but then I read your “witty” comments.
You use the news from a third word country to ”amuse yourself” about poor people freezing to death.
But at the same time tolerate “winter death sentences” for your own elderly:
This old Brits freezing to death are not “miserable parasites” that don’t want to work...........
They are the generation that constructed your modern Britain......
This thread exemplifies perfectly your unawareness about your own system faults.
“Much funnier to spit in the face of a far away Country”
“Our government is taking good care of everything here”
“Our house is in perfect order”
Well, it is not, and continues not to be”
Needless to say, the Turnips didn’t find ”that angle” of the story so amusing........
**52 MontyDec 04th, 2011 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
i mean that
Argentina is light weight for UK
Brasil is normal weight for UK
Germany (Japan) is/are heavy weight for UK
USA & Russia & China are excess weight for UK ..
/Dec 04th, 2011 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
dont argies die when its coldDec 04th, 2011 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Meanwhile, health-services officials said Monday that an elderly woman and a baby died Sunday of hypothermia in La Rioja, capital of the like-named province.
The charitable group Solidarity Network told Efe on Sunday that so far this winter another 33 people, 11 of them minors, have died from carbon monoxide poisoning caused by the faulty combustion in heating systems
The latest death is that of a baby who lived with his family on the streets of Buenos Aires, death was
also officially confirmed today.
These deaths occurred mostly in shacks without adequate ventilation systems.
Or when its too hot
The city of Buenos Aires has a summer average of 90 deaths per day but, for example, during the heat wave at the beginning of 2001 it went up to 250 deaths in a single day,” the weather service warned on its website.
@ 57Dec 04th, 2011 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Read the news about Buenos Aires in Spanish, not in English. But why worrying about Buenos Aires? A heat wave can kill everything, from plants to human beings. Cold can kill too and it's unfunny, your zero understanding of things of life is funny though. Have you ever had something real like sex with a real woman, not your rubber doll?
you always post one or two links about Argentina, and I can post thousands of links about the UK or Scotland, what a loser.
Scotland the brave, my *ss!
watch this vide of a wicked scottish driver, wicked but damn funny though.
Caballeros Think y xbarilox there is no doubt that during the.period 95-08 England like much of Europe lived a charmed life on the back of the great houseing pyramid scheme and the downtrodden south.But now Asia and.South America are realizing their potential and the savage waste of their corrupt bankers(to think they like to portray Argentina as corrupt)Dec 04th, 2011 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
ludicrous social welfare and pensions.Throw in the real decider declining
birth rates and one can see their decline wil be terminal.Cameron is desperately hoping immigration will hold up the population which will do nothing but ensure annual rioting
birth rates and one can see their decline is terminal.
Can some one enlighten me to the Argentine claim to the Falklands? I mean to my belief they were uninhabited by humans until colonisation? I could be wrong not to sure. But if this is the case and the Falklanders still want to be British then where is the legit claim? If it was an Argentinian population I could understand. And before all the bitchy and patriotic comments I'm asking purely from an educational view as the conflict was before my time. In addition to this what's with the claim of British Antarctic territory as well. It seems like Argentina are just trying to piss us off wherever they can. Just to clarify I have nothing against Argentina I'm just asking whether their claim is more legit than just geography.Dec 04th, 2011 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Are you telling us by your name you are a racist? If so your question is mere trollingDec 04th, 2011 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Nah just couldn't think of anything and I'm proud of my Jewish-Anglo-Germanic heritage. I believe all people should be proud of their heritage whilst not letting it get in the way of progress. Honestly I want to know what the claim is from the Argentine view as I know little about it all. I'm just interested in the history of it all. In my opinion an independent country or body should hold a referendum giving them a choice. Argentina, Britain, or Independence. Then we could hopefully put the matter behind us as Argentina as an emerging economic powerhouse and Britain as a prominent country of research and development in computing technologies could trade and benefit each other rather than being at each others throats. All I know is the British view from people older than my generation. But from my generations point of view most of us who are politically minded see it as an easy issue to solve that is getting in the way of progress between two civil nations. Reading back on it my last comment does seem a little like trolling. Sorry for that but what is it from the Argentine perspective? Because to me the whole thing seems ridiculous from the point that neither side seems to have done anything that can conclusively say Falk landers want to be British/Argentinian.Dec 05th, 2011 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
don’t listen to the Argies they are wrong, envious and jealous,Dec 05th, 2011 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
They try to steal everything that’s not nailed down, and throw insults if you don’t agree with them,
The Falklands are British, always have been, and always will be as long as they wish it,
Its as simple as that, but they will argue till doomsday to get them,
Some bloggers are ok, but some are very resentful of everything British.
Anglo - can I suggest:Dec 05th, 2011 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
They don't actually have a claim. Spain did not leave Argentina anything and uti possidetis juris is a fantasy of constructive possession. Indeed Spain still considered East Falkland her own till 1858.
Jewtt did not do enough, and Vernet didn't do it early enough.
Britain gained good title.
End of !
@62Anglo-Saxon,Dec 05th, 2011 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Yes Anglo, l fully endorse what Redhoyt says.
lf you do some research you'll find that the Falklands have never belonged to them at all but sadly they have convinced themselves that they do.
lts been a great way to unite the masses for Argentina.
The smarter ones among them have seen the oil & the location. Falklands will make a commanding base over a very busy waterway & as a base to exploit Antarctica's resources.
Who knows what minerals lie under the ice. Also, soon its possible that the world will start to run out of water & there are zillions of litres of fresh water in the ice-cap.
They think that Britain is in decline & cannot hold onto what we claimed first. They want a piece of the action & have convinced themselves that all this territory is theirs & its not.
They got a rude shock in 1982 & have been stewing over it since.
Anyway, they are too shy to go to the lnternational Court of Justice & as yet, not game to start another war, so all we hear are threats & insults.
Anglo Saxon ,as I see it as an Irishman with Argentine connections the English forces expelled the resident Argentine population in 1833.As they did in parts of my country they brought in a planter population to.colonize the islands.Naturally they dont allow free movement of peoples as happens in South America proper.Also of course the descendants of the planters as in the north of Ireland want to maintainDec 05th, 2011 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
the status quo.In the long term there will have to be real negotiations as demanded by the UN,and the Latin American nations.Apolgies for the end as I cant delete from mobile.These are my views othere will
vehemently disagree but as Europe enters what in the mid term at least is a slow ongoing decline while the likes of Argentina grow quickly
e a pacific and fair solution for all as has happened in the North of Ireland where free population movement happens
You're not a learner, are you O'GaGa - free movement is restricted by the UN - I've told you before.Dec 05th, 2011 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Will there have to be negotiations? Somehow I doubt it, after all - it's up to the Islanders, and they have nothing to talk about.
# 66 O gagaDec 05th, 2011 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Please answer me a question: have you ever in your life actually BEEN to Ireland?
Thank you all for the insights and the links. I'll be doing a little research now. From an historical point of view I find it all fascinating, I used to read a lot of medieval history but recently I started looking into the Colonial Era. Therefore I find the Falklands and Gibraltar are two very interesting areas as they are still considered British Territory now. With lively debate.Dec 05th, 2011 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Christy I am in it right now would you like a pint of guinness or a Jamie.Dec 05th, 2011 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
http://www.hurstpub.co.uk/BookDetails.aspx?BookId=637Dec 05th, 2011 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
36 Monty69Dec 05th, 2011 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
''”The Argentines do not believe in extremes, or human rights?''
Well you're right. That could be the first sensible thing you've said here.
As always interpret Monty69 bad translation.
Leave the hatred and resentment towards Argentina and understand better!
Argentina always believed in the human rights struggle, we suffer 30,000 disappeared during the military dictatorship. Nestor and Cristina Kirchner, refused obedience, and pardons end of Menem and Alfonsin. With the truth trials, the prosecuted and are incarcerated for their crimes. Nestor and Cristina Kirchner have understood that the struggle for human rights is a cause of humanity without distinction of race and creed. Argentina has two Nobel peace prizes: Carlos Saavedra Lamas and Adolfo Perez Esquivel.
I recommend the following link.Read them, please, before any stupid comment!
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Ahhhhhhh redhoyt so Cameron is going to have the UN on his side when he boots those immigrants he doesnt want out of England.Didnt know that!!!!!!!!Dec 05th, 2011 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You may huffDec 05th, 2011 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You may puff
You may blow your own trumpet.
But you still wont get the Falklands
As long as the people wish to remain British .
Free movement in 'Non-self Governing Territories'.Dec 05th, 2011 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Your idiocy is showing O'gaga !
But you still wont get the FalklandsDec 05th, 2011 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
As long as the people wish to remain British .
For how long????/
I bet 100000 to 1 on that that wil not be for long,chethaa
And I bet 50pence that you will lose.Dec 05th, 2011 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You may get something,
But it wont be what you expected >
Cheap at half the price
I see that Antarctica is a 'disputed overseas territory' - are the Argentinians going to threaten action over that?Dec 06th, 2011 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Why does the presence of a British Military Base on a remote Island in a British Archipelago casue the Argentinians so must trouble? I don't see the Cypriots complaining about the British Military bases in Cyprus, or Spain threatening to blockade Gibraltar?
My understanding of the history of the Falklands is that no Argentinians ever made a permanent home here (apart from a handful in recent history) - just as no-one appears to have made a permanent home in Antarctica or on Ascension. However, I'm neither Argentinian nor a Falkland Islander, but British. The residents of the Falklands are a mix of peoples and cultures from across the world, but the British have sworn to protect them against potential threats from neighbours. However the Military Base here also serves as a training ground for young recruits to the armed forces - just as the Cyprus ones and others around the world do.
Am I missing a point here as to why a training base that also enables citizens of a country to be potentially protected from a (previously) aggressive neighbour and the training deployment of a member of the UK royal family their is an act of aggression on the part of the UK?
@ 78 the question is: Do the British believe that Antarctica belongs to them? Oooooooof course :) They believe so, but, reality proves them wrong.Dec 06th, 2011 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Why does the presence of a British Military Base on a remote Island in a British Archipelago casue the Argentinians so must trouble?
What would you say if we had a nuclear bomb pointing at the islands? Would you like it? Don't play the innocent with us laddie, you're not :)
I don't understand the part so must trouble do you mean so much trouble? Brits are strange these days, they can't write their own language properly.
What would you say if we had a nuclear bomb pointing at the islands?Dec 06th, 2011 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Do we have a nuclear bomb pointing at Argentina . [no]
Do we threaten Argentina [no]
Do we abuse Argentina [no]
Do we blockade Argentina [no]
Do we tell abhorrent lies about Argentina [no]
Do we claim what is not ours [no]
Argentina should stop picking on the islands and grow up,
Just a growing thought .
#79 xbolloxDec 07th, 2011 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
What would you say if we had a nuclear bomb pointing at the islands?
Not a lot as you will never have any thermo-nuclear devices on the Americas.
The USA will never allow children to play with matches, especially if the delivery device could get within 2,000 miles (3,220 km) of their southernmost borders.
You see, your childish attitude of stamping your feet in temper when you cannot get what you want is not lost on the rest of the world. Medieval Pakistan has nuclear devices, at the moment. As soon as it looks like they would use them against American forces they will either have them taken off them, or they will be blown up on site using plastique (no nuclear explosion).
The way things are going the same will happen to Iran.
79 xbarilox - it was a typing error - but glad your English is advanced enough to see it - or maybe you're English after allDec 07th, 2011 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
There are no nuclear weapons in the Falklands - no matter what the Argentine Government may tell people (but I have to confess I've not heard that one before....), so we don;t have one pointing at you. The threat of blockade however is serious - that could lead to death through starvation or an inability to airvac seriously ill people (be they residents, visitors or tourists - even Argentine tourists).....
#82 british_but_open_mindedDec 07th, 2011 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
We are wasting our breath with xbollox and his mate Pratt-Junta.
Xbollox has reached a new low, even for him in wanting Uruguayans to have to experience Leishmaniasis which kills 50% of infected children up to the age of 10 years. And guess where it is likely to spread from: Argentina with Brazil also in the frame.
@ 83 you're so funny, de verdad jeropa! This is for you jajajaDec 07th, 2011 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
#84 xbolloxDec 07th, 2011 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Think I might be getting at you at last. Don't forget my promise will you, little boy.
Lily Allen is the garilous mouthed offspring of another also-ran in the 'make believe business' known as show business. Bit like the Queen of Plastic herself - your heroin CFK.
@ 85 nah, you're not getting at me. I'm a pig, so don't fantasize :)Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@86 xbarilox,Dec 08th, 2011 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Who are you today, xbox?
Xbox is, I think, tri-polar....... if not quad......Dec 08th, 2011 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Happy XBOX DayDec 08th, 2011 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@85ChrisR,Dec 08th, 2011 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Catchy tune though.
Although no need for the swearing.
Could have been Damn You.