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UK plans a huge South Atlantic marine protection zone in South Georgia

Wednesday, December 7th 2011 - 18:57 UTC
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The UK is planning a huge marine protection zone near the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic Ocean, in an area that is also claimed by Argentina, a British official said on Wednesday. Read full article

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  • Islas Malvinas

    Green Pirats

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    yepe, and yet they say those are not British colonies :)

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    Oh no! For God sake! British colonies?

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    what happened? where's the fire? call the police!

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kiwisarg

    1 Islas Malvinas (#)
    yess!! Green Pirates!! just have a look this!!
    http://www.youtube.com/​watch?v=b04LxdCUZbk&feature​=channel_video_title

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 5 Taking care of the environment is a good idea. Why do you oppose it? It think this will be benefitial for all of us.

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    Argentina just want it so they can fish the arse out of it like they have done to thier own stocks.They are a backward and simple race who only understand take, take, take and not balance and give and take . On a lighter note they are welcome to take as many walruses as they can find !

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    First they killed the wildlife by the millions, like the penguins, and now they are trying to “protect the wildlife”. What a joke and desperate these Brits are.
    They did the same thing in Chagos Islands trying to keep their expelled citizens out.

    “Chagos Islanders attack plan to turn archipelago into protected area

    ”UK government proposals a ploy to block displaced Chagossians from returning to their homeland”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/29/chagos-island-marine-reserve-plans

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    like the penguins

    like the argies give a shit

    Patagonian anchovy fishery could threaten penguins

    http://www.nature.com/news/2007/070101/full/news070101-4.html
    http://www.nature.com/news/2007/070101/full/news070101-4.html

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Papamoa

    Good the UK taking care of the enviroment and there territory! Britain leading the way and showing the stiff upper lip in the face of argentine lies.

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    Its a classic England saving the World with its green agenda after Sheffield,Manchester and Blackburn destroying the ozone layer for centuries.The English should be forced to clean up the World environment all on their own they caused such damage.
    But you have to admire their cheek.Argentina aprende there is only one way to treat perfidious albion

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troneas

    @8

    Eh. Chagos islanders not elegible for “self-determination” my brit friends?

    how come?

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    The owners can do what they like with their private property.

    Anyone like to explain Argenina's hilarious claim to South Georgia :-)

    Anyone ?

    Dec 07th, 2011 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Redhoyt, You are wrong as always, of course you learned all your lies in England...

    Thursday 08 December 2011

    “Exam boards: how examiners tip off teachers to help students pass”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/secondaryeducation/8940781/Exam-boards-how-examiners-tip-off-teachers-to-help-students-pass.html

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    No answer then MoreCrap ?

    Argentina's claim to South Georgia is one of the biggest jokes in its diplomatic history !

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • livin' in argentina

    11 O gara (#) Dec 07th, 2011 -
    “Its a classic England saving the World with its green agenda after Sheffield,Manchester and Blackburn destroying the ozone layer for centuries”.

    You need to understand that the statement above says “UK plans a huge South Atlantic marine protection zone in South Georgia”. England is part of the UK. The other countries are Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The persistent use of England to refer to the UK is understandable if you have not been educated on this matter.

    “The English should be forced to clean up the World environment all on their own they caused such damage”.
    Again, i refer you to the above with regards to the “English”. So the “English” have caused 100% of all the pollution in the world? What an interesting fact. Where did you discover this? please forward the literature to me.

    “But you have to admire their cheek.Argentina aprende there is only one way to treat perfidious albion”
    Actually there is more than one way. With respect is one good example. With intelligent dialogue another. This is not a new concept to the modern developed countrys of the world but a common mistake in the third worlds nations.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fantazum2011

    The penguins must have started migrating to chile and argentina again so this is a ploy to entice them back....typical english trickery

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Ah the usual standards from our Argentine contributors. Think of the image of your country that you portray, its like you were all 12. Actually strike that, my 7 year old is capable of more intelligent commentary.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    “The UK must obey international law and return them to Argentina peacefully.”

    HAHAHAHA now which international law said that? There's the devil in the detail about why negotiations never happen.....

    But hang on a second what can Argentina do about it.....not very much...apart from whinge and whine, a bit like our infantile Daygo friends on here :) I see alot of pirates this and EEEEEENGLISH that, and Morecraps usual incessant rabbings about penguins ......but nothing constructive....ah bliss, if the worst Argentina will ever do is intimidate about 12 trawlers (out of a fleet of 200) and whine on the world stage......Falklanders can sleep safe at night :)

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    They interpret laws as they see fit, to suit themselves.
    Go on boys, answer the question, explain Argentina's “claims” to South Georgia, the South Sandwich lslands & Antarctica.
    l am all ears & eagerly awaiting your reply.
    We've heard from Think(pathetic answer) & MalArg(a more honest answer)on this.
    Nows your chance, amigos.
    Talk & tell all.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ed

    (#) 16 Amigo
    England,Scotland,N.Ireland,Wales are represented separetely in
    UEFA,FIFA organizations , but not represented seperately in EU,,UN,.
    What an interesting fact !,What a double standart ! isn't it ?

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @ Ga ga
    The English should be forced to clean up the World environment all on their own they caused such damage.

    Argentina’s forests are among those that are disappearing. Today only 30% of the country’s original forests remain.

    ENVIRONMENT-ARGENTINA:
    More Soy, Less Forest - and No Water
    http://ipsnews.net/africa/interna.asp?idnews=27911

    DESERTIFICATION IN CENTRAL ARGENTINA
    Many arid and semiarid (dryland) regions are subject to desertification from
    intensive land-use pressures such as cattle ranching.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Why didn't the British protect their own cod stock instead of extending it's territorial waters to 250 miles.why did they use Christmas island to test the bomb.Why have they lost manufacturing industry?Green issues follow the uk's ability to implement them rather than the other way around.The idea behind this protection is the robber talking nice while he robs you.He is still a criminal

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bigron

    First things first and here's a bit of a tip-off - the Argie Bargies are investing in submersibles capable of firing torpedoes at British shipping - why? I wonder. They have acquired technology from Northern Europe via North Korea, I am reliably informed. This project is secret and therefore, it's being run by the marine police force, you know, the one's with that very nice polyester beige uniform. Does anyone really care what the Argentines say? Remember, their government robbing them blind again, whilst they stand by and watch, they always just stand by and watch, then blame everyone else for their stupidity. Their currencies under pressure and in a week or two they will not be able to pay their bills again, so they will ‘rape’ their people – starting with the rich of course, because the current government is a socialist crew (well maybe not this week, 'market friendly ahora' becuase the 'muddle' or is that the 'model' needs tinkering with, and they have some morals you know – hahahaha) and the rich, the black marketeers, well they are just trying to get their money out the country – forget the Argentines, it's really easy to do, they will be too busy eating in soup kitchens again in a few months time and blaming the world for their woes.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Argentine Hake On the Brink of Collapse
    By Marcela Valente*
    http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=51741

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tipstonga

    Argentine and British politicians use these things to hide their local problems. Weapons dealers also benefit from these.
    It is time for United Nations to take international control of South Atlantic Sea and its islands and protect that environment to continue with full internationalization of Antarctic Continent.
    Falklands Islands -only with population in the zone - deserves to be an independent country like any other.
    Only doing so will peace be brought.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    26- quite a lot of sense in what you say indeed!But I fear the non British side on here would vehemently object - but as an Falkland Islander I would go with you. Falklands and S. Georgia etc already work with UN on fisheries conservation where we can.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juanweather

    It seems to me that the Uk is clutching at straws, this is a palliative measure for what's to come.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero601

    @22 Stick , on: “Argentina’s forests are among those that are disappearing. Today only 30% of the country’s original forests remain.....”

    Please refer to Red @ 13 : ” The owners can do what they like with their private property...... :-)) right?

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juanweather

    @22

    We could fill up the entire Uk of Argentine forest, and by the way, would love to know how much of the original forest have left in let's say england.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 30 is it not necessary to take care of our forests? That's just being short-sighted.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    We could fill up the entire Uk of Argentine forest, and by the way, would love to know how much of the original forest have left in let's say england.

    No shit sherlock,argentina being the 8th largest country on the planet,just pointing out to ga ga, that the argies aint the ones to be dishing out advice on the enviroment

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 32 well, you people are well known for not being really interested in things like climate change or forests unless there is something to win. Why are you complaining about this? Isn't that hypocricy?

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juanweather

    @32

    What gives you the idea that Uk has a clue on green environment policies? You'd better learn from the “Granero del Mundo” and the country with the best landscapes in the world.

    ;-)

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ed

    Poor British,they still think that they are still a empire.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    This isn't a war;
    it shouldn't even be a war of words.

    This is the UK doing what it promised to do under the Cancun Agreement on world biodiversity.

    Is Argentina fulfilling its Cancun obligations?

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Geoff, you must know better than that!
    They don't think “obligations” apply to them.
    Only other people.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 36 we are, well, aparently we are :) it's more a Cocoon than Cancun in our case.

    @ 37 Isolde, you drown yourself in a spoonful of water! Take it easy, life feels much better this way :)

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tipstonga

    happy that you agree #27, politicians will fight back in both RA and UK against Falklands freedom. I have already met other wise islanders in the Facebook community page Falkland Islands.
    I hope people from Falkland Islands stand up claiming the world for independence as soon as possible.
    The best luck for you

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Granero del Mundo ?

    In ”Tucuman (province), 87 percent of the children have intestinal parasites,” Néstor Gutiérrez, head of parasitology for the Provincial Health Services, told La Nacion newspaper.
    Dying from hunger in food-exporting Argentina
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
    At least 10 indigenous children have died from malnutrition in north-west Argentina this year.

    Three of the six dead children in Tucuman developed a polyparasitic ailment, only possible through the ingestion of contaminated water or food.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$pend $$$$$$ome $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ the no fishing zone just got bigger, they all better have their papers in check and ready to show them when the Argentine patrol comes to inforce international sea laws supported by UK marine protection plan, in this issue as an Argentine I support UK, but I still demand they return Islas Malvinas to Argentina. LONG LIVE DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM TO IMPEACH.

    Dec 08th, 2011 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • livin' in argentina

    21 ed (#) Dec 08th, 2011 -
    (#) 16 Amigo
    England,Scotland,N.Ireland,Wales are represented separetely in
    UEFA,FIFA organizations , but not represented seperately in EU,,UN,.
    What an interesting fact !,What a double standart ! isn't it ?

    True they are seperate entities in sport. But no one country can unilaterally act on its own in International affairs. There is no mechanism to do so. The constituent parts of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) do not have legislatures with their own areas of exclusive jurisdiction, and England has no legislature at all..
    Why? because to have a federation you need a constitution, and the UK does not have one.
    Sport is one thing. In Rugby Northern Ireland combines with Ireland but England, Scotland and Wales compete separate. In others (e.g. football) there are separate teams for Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. It is only in the Olympic Games, where participation is strictly on the basis of nationality, and in sports focused on the Olympics, such as track and field athletics, that a UK or “British” team is likely to feature. As a final curiosity, our leading cricket team, although always called “England”, actually represents England and Wales. Scotland and Ireland have their own teams. So no. no double standards. Politics and sport....keep it separate.

    Dec 09th, 2011 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 40 stick up your junta you're so boring talking about the same things time after time, there are starving people in the UK too, what's new about that? Get out of the islands you pr*cks!

    Dec 09th, 2011 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Yeah - people starve to death all the time in Britain !

    Dead bodies lying in the streets ... you'd think the councils would clean up faster, so that the fat people don't have to look.

    Terrible.

    Now tell me, ExBrain where do you get your news - Charles Dickens ??

    Dec 09th, 2011 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Valle Ricardo

    news come from the free argentine press agency. fair. Inteligent. Balanced. Neutral. Who else can you trust with the truth?

    Sorry, what am i saying. i just caught a dose of Agentine bullshit. I'm ok now though. It's easy to get rid off. Just swat it away with a Milanesa.

    Dec 09th, 2011 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @38Xbox,
    Well, Argentines carry on like a storm in a tea cup.

    Dec 09th, 2011 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Politics and sport....keep it separate. #42 like the Moscow olympics?

    Dec 09th, 2011 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • livin' in argentina

    that's right. Argentina boycott the games. Great Britain did not.

    Dec 09th, 2011 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    What about S Africa.you did boycott that and I know why.Don't need it explaining.just what you thought about that

    Dec 09th, 2011 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • livin' in argentina

    South Africa have never held the Olympics as far as I know.

    Dec 09th, 2011 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    can someone helpe me imagine what will the Olympic games be like in London 2012? I can't do it myself! =P

    Dec 10th, 2011 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • livin' in argentina

    find an adult to help you.

    Dec 10th, 2011 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Valle Ricardo

    Si. Imagine Buenos Aires in the year 2880. They have completed the new national stadium and are hosting the Olympics soon. They are proud as it has taken many hundreds of peso's to complete. But to thier credit that completed the task in record time. Only delaying the event for 300 years. It will be spectacular. They will have Pizza there and everything!

    Dec 10th, 2011 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    By 2880 Buenos Aires will be a Brazilian city.
    All of northern Argentina will be Brazilian states & southern Argentina will be part of Chile.

    Dec 10th, 2011 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    A huge South Atlantic marine protection zone in South Georgia is indeed great news for all mankind. No country is better equipped to organise and manage such a project than the United Kingdom, its legitimate sovereign power.
    On one of my trips to the Falklands, I had the pleasure of meeting Robert K. Headland, who is a leading expert on South Georgia and also the author of the outstanding book, “The Island of South Georgia” (Cambridge University Press, 1984.) SG has a surface area of approximately 3,755km2. It is about 170km long and from 2 to 30km wide. Around South Georgia there are several small islands, islets, and rocks. South Georgia is then far from being “tiny,” as two ”The Times authors called it in a recent article.

    Philippe

    Dec 10th, 2011 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tipstonga

    Philippe, of course South Atlantic protection is important. But you can not seriously say that UK is better equipped for the task(have you heard about USA or France?) and that UK or any country can have sovereignty over a territory so far from “home”. So the only rational and fair thing to do is that international control of the zone -together with all the South Atlantic and the Antarctic Continent- is taken joining the best technical and human power from all nations. The only exception -as it is an already populated area- should be Falkland Islands that should be freed becoming a new independent country.

    Dec 11th, 2011 - 04:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Tipsy!

    USA ? France? Nah, never heard of them :-)

    But I've heard of geography - and I know that it's irrelevant in international law.

    Fair ?? You'll be making me cry next ! Who said life was going to be fair?

    The Falklanders are FREE. Already. FREE to make up their own minds.

    Don't you wish that you were ??

    Dec 11th, 2011 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    By 2880 Buenos Aires will be a Brazilian city.
    All of northern Argentina will be Brazilian states & southern Argentina will be part of Chile.
    AAHAHAHAHAH! isolde: pelotuda!!
    AMlvinas will be Argentinian...

    Dec 12th, 2011 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @58Malvinero1,
    Don't cry malvin. You can always go back to ltalia(if they'll have you!).
    btw- where are/is AMlvinas? lf you find out, please let me know. Fool.

    Dec 13th, 2011 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    #59 Not in south Africa that the British boycotted during the apartheid days.Is my spelling ok.I need to dry the dishes,forgive me if I rush.

    Dec 13th, 2011 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    A curious fact that most people seem to forget is that in general about 15% of the genes of the population are from Native Americans. Most of it is from Mestizo heritage. Being descendants of Mestizo means we also are descendants of Natives. It means that we can say that about 15% of the country are the real owners and can decide what to do with the other 85%. Obviously, they will choose us to stay.
    And this way, the British counter-claims saying that we are also not the Natives to the our land are beaten.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    l don't care what your heritage is, Juan. l'm glad for you.
    This is our land & we're not going to give it to you or anyone else.
    There will be no deals & no negotiations.
    Anyway, apart from all that. Merry Christmas.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rosarino

    There will be no deals no negocitation-
    You give me my a funny day!
    That´s is our best argument for get, peacefully and, support after support, country by country, will after will, our island back-

    Regardssssss

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @63Rosarino,
    l'm glad that you agree, there will be NO NEGOTIATIONS.
    Thank you for that.
    You also, make me smile.
    Pray tell, what countries support you so much that they are willing to “peacefully” give OUR lslands to you.
    And how exactly do you think that you are going to“peacefully”conquer OUR lslands?
    l would be interested to know.
    (besides l would get a bonus when my report is received at MI6).
    Oh, damn, l've let the cat out of the bag, now.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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