MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
UK “feeling uneasy” with Argentine diplomatic campaign to recover the Malvinas
Argentine Defence minister Arturo Puricelli rejected the announced UK plan to create a huge marine protection zone in South Georgia saying the British are feeling “uneasy” because of the Argentine diplomatic work displayed to claim the South Atlantic Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesgood!! file a complain with the UN and take a seat it's going to be a long long wait, we might even become good friends as we wait.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0The English might be feeling uneasy, but believe me it's got nothing to do with the massively inflated ego of the Italian Minister Puricelli.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0And Redhoyt said not important hahaha
Dec 09th, 2011 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmm, I would like to see the evidence that we feeling “uneasy”. I think this is great big indicator that we are feeling as confident as usual http://www.ocean-rig.com/modules/module_123/proxy.asp?D=2&C=29&I=34&mid=39
Dec 09th, 2011 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Beautiful!
It's the desperate tone of the Argentine 'diplomacy' that feels uneasy. If they could get their message across and sound convinving without telling lies then we might have something to worry about. They can't and we don't.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina; listen; it's better to build windmills than to tilt at them.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not important!
Dec 09th, 2011 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't this the fella who reckoned that the islanders were being held hostage? Or was he the one that thought the islanders were being bribed not to become Argentine? Can't remember, but it all smacks of deperation.
Still he's giving himself some space, the 21st Century is the one is it? Just as well there's still 88 years to go :-)
Not quite sure whether he's the one that's 'uneasy', or just plain barmy!
@7 The only one that can be desperated and uneasy is the one that has something to loose... What`s at stake here? Oh yeah! The illegal occupation of Malvinas by uneasy UK.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Exactly. Telling lies so big and blatantly false is not diplomacy. It just undermines the Argentine government's credibility.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0#9 It's impossible to undermine what does not exist in the real world: Argentina has no credibility there.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Argentine Defence minister Arturo Puricelli' is he the person responsible for counting the rowing boat navy and fractured airframe airforce? Not much of a job and from this diatribe not much of an intellect.
#8 I second your opinion and will like to add that a fleet of Argentine made submarines could put another economic nail in the british coffin. if with just hot air and a few trips Argentina got them scrambling for cover, can you imagine what a few military investments can accomplish? UK has being colonizing for a long time and the issue with Argentina has being around for a long time we might as well plan for the long term. if EU economic health is any indicator of UK's economy I am sure we won't have to wait long as EU is gasping for life this days, words like regulations, bail out and insolvency have being used to descrive the situation and this words are no friend to investors, bankers will make a killing with the profits from the fire sale of public and private assets but UK's working class will pay for it in blood plus interests.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0”More Britons turn to payday loans
(UKPA) – 1 day ago
Payday loan companies are expected to see a surge in demand over Christmas and next year as Britons struggle with their finances, a report has claimed.”
www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gE51B44LxqvJAcGrS2dM0VZatCMQ?docId=N0309361323257979576A
Oh so this muppet thinks that the UK's annoucement that they are created a mariine protection zone in south georgia, which is part of a much bigger project that has been ongoing for over a decade, as part of the eco conservation project, that argentina is also signed up to, mean we are feeling uneasy about argentinas diplomatic rhetoric.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0If anyone is feeling uneasy or getting desperate it is argentina, and that is showed by them now trying to provoke britian by boarding innocent fishing vessels and by their illegal blockade of sea lanes to and from the islands.
#9-that was not a true statement.Your yanqui gvt has lied plenty had you still believe the lies,eg the land of the free.The return of territory of Argentina must occur at some point.That is the truth,the only point at issue is will it happen this century.I am fascinated to know how anyone can call that lie and not mean that they wish it was a lie.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0If he had said this month, week, year, or even decade one might feel uneasy as the criminally insane are unpredicatble in their actions ..... but 'this century' .... ho hum....
Dec 09th, 2011 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0How come the implanted italian Puricelli isn't wearing his clown suit and big red nose today?
Um are you confused? I am not from the USA, though I travel there a lot on business. Just as my work takes me to South America and, over the years, to many other countries.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The kind Billy Liar statements about Falkland Islanders being paid to stay there or that they are being held hostage by the British army are too ridiculous to be believed by anyone other than the CFK devotees.
The Falkland Islands never belonged to Argentina.
“The Falkland Islands never belonged to Argentina.”
Dec 09th, 2011 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And they never will belong to then, just like south georgia and the south sandwitch islands never belonged to them and never will belong to them either.
As long as argentina keep talking about this mythical place called the malvernarse then they will never get them!!! the word which argentina needs is ACTION and it cannot do that as it lacks any real support and self believe to chase that particular Fairy Tale.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long Live the Falklands.
Puricelli is a nobody, he must do such “announces” to get in the news. Why he does not tell how he got rich when he was minister in the province of Santa Cruz? sad, but some people, as me, still remember it.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 “The Falkland Islands never belonged to Argentina”
Dec 09th, 2011 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then show your proves and convience Latinamerica, the US, G77 + China, etc... They don´t seem to be so sure about your statement.
@16 “They never will belonged to them”
It´s just a matter of time
@17 Action like not allowing UK ships enter argentinian, brazilian and uruguayan ports?
@18 Kirchner´s administration´s corruption does not have anything to do with Argentinian rights over Malvinas.
We´ll be back.
@19 “Then show your proves and convience Latinamerica, the US, G77 + China, etc... They don´t seem to be so sure about your statement.” Why should we prove anything, we already have the islands, it is for Argentina to prove their case, but atlas you seem keen not to goto the ICJ, probably because your government no that if they did, all their lies they have been making up about their claim would be exposed.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It´s just a matter of time” - Thats what was said in 1833 and 1982 yet we still have them. So come on, just how do you intend to get the islands back if your not willing to goto the ICJ or start another war?
“@18 Kirchner´s administration´s corruption does not have anything to do with Argentinian rights over Malvinas.” Err yes it does, as corruption is deceitful actions and lies are deceitful, so argentinas whole claim is based on corrupted version of history that is nothing but a lie. Also governments that try to force their will on other nations territory and people in breach of international law is a clear sign of a corrupt government, that has also corrupted its own people by indoctrinating them into believe the government lies.
Argentina is cruises towards getting another bloody nose and you idiots can not even see it coming, at its because your government is asking for us to punch them one in the face once again.
@11 “a fleet of Argentine made submarines”. You're going to have to wait a long time for those. The subs you numpties do have are made by Germany. By the standards of the premier submarine-equipped countries, i.e. the USA and the UK, your crap is incredibly noisy. Did you know that most of our submarines are classified as “hunter/killers”? Couple of things to consider. You have 3 submarines. We have 9 “hunter-killers”. When your subs don't return from patrol, who knows what happened to them? Might it be a leak? A fire? Or might you remember how we feel about “threats”? Will you ever find them? Remember what three WW2-vintage torpedos did to that Belgrano tin-can? And you can't find it? Just imagine what our Spearfish torpedos are going to do! Spearfish torpedos have twice as much explosive as the Mark 8s we used in 1982. Boom, boom, no submarine. Scattered all over the seabed.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And if you want to get aggressive, just imagine what might happen if you stick your noses out of harbour! In 1982 we destroyed that “pride” of your fleet. And the rest RAN for home in TERROR!
Tell you what. You put up your submarine “fleet” and I'll pee on it. All sunk in 10 minutes!
@19 What a prick! Argieland is nothing. It is an irrelevance. “
@15 “The Falkland Islands never belonged to Argentina”
Then show your proves and convience Latinamerica, the US, G77 + China, etc... They don´t seem to be so sure about your statement.”
We don't have to prove anything, prick. To you or anyone else. You don't like it? Go to the ICJ. I wonder why, in 65 years, you haven't done that? But I know we have something that will make us friends. What would you like? A truncheon, a baton, a bayonet. I can give you pleasure by shoving any one, or all three, up your ass. You need to get together with Prat-Hunta. I'm sure you could pleasure each other and forget about political matters you don't understand. Just shove your dick down his throat and you can both enjoy yourselves. Argentine poofs!
Teaboy you really talk a good game a little like the English futbol team.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But the facts are the City are ever more rattled by Argentinas diplomatic iniative.Camerons disastrous performance this morning in Europe gives Argentina a serious possibility to advance its case in the one continent where the City had maintained an advantage.With Latin American influence gaining massive ground in the US in both terms of population and trade the City will become completely marginalized on the Malvinas.Press on Sr Puricelli they will soon be in Buenos Aires in a hurry to talk
@22 Actually Cameron Vetoeing the treaty was the best thing that could happen, it pulls us futher away from the EU and leaves the door open for us to leave altogether while at the same time protecting or governments control of our economy, financial sector, finances and taxes. You on the other hand have no idea what you are talking about. The city is still 2nd biggest financial center in the world and will remain so, ohh look the ftse 100 is up by 0.83% today, argentinas Merv was down 2.20% on the 7th, looking forward to see what the next day of trading results are for argentina. The fact the Ftse 100 is up just shows that cameron was right. Muppet.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After your attempts at economic commentary on another post i can only say that the last word would be really far too kind for your goodself but then I suppose teaboys as a rule dont have any grasp of economics do they?
Dec 09th, 2011 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bomb Buenos Aires.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The argentines are all talk still no Action and that wont change anytime soon lets say the next 100 years or more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 09th, 2011 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long Live the Falklands
always the same deluded indocrinated rubbish,
Dec 09th, 2011 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if its theirs, they will come and take it, if not its just another false hope on their part, crap,
@24 thats coming from the idiot that claims the UK is in 100% Debt, when it is impossible to be 100% in debt as the amount of debt a country can be in can technically be infinite.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh and by the way the other post your were referring to were correct, it just you were to dumb to understand the difference between numeric vales us 10^12 (billion) and 10^18 (trillion) or the impact converting pounds to dollars increases the total figure and converting peso to dollars decreases the the total figure for argentina. But hey your one of the guys that keep denying the argentine actual rate of inflation and that is bubble is starting to leak. I guess that makes you the real fool here. Especially when you pick on a dsylexic person like myself about my spelling and grammar, when your spelling and grammer is not much to go by either. Hell you even missed a couple of commas out of your post in #24 and you do not even know how to spell impoverish or even football correctly. Hell am dyslexic and even i have never spelt football as futball. Muppet lol.
The Brits and their allies make things up as they go along their down the path to the deep blue sea
Dec 09th, 2011 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who made the UK join the EU,and if getting isolated is leaving the EU,that must be Brit logic
There is no such thing as 100% debt.Yanqui debt is at 110% last time I saw a number for it,110% in relation to it's GDP
The Malvinas where never Argentinian.Yes they where most of the world know that.
They will never get the Malvinas.Argentina will recover the Malvinas this century and the Brits isolation in Europe will ensure that it will be sooner rather than later.
Your guns are emptying
“a fleet of Argentine made submarines ”
Dec 09th, 2011 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has Argentina ever, once even made a sub? I assure you - ours are better.
O'gara is quite amusing, an irish person giving economic tips to the country that bailed his one out.
@29 Sorry My furry little friend but the malvinas was amade up land created by Juan Peron to distract his people from his failing policy!!! all the stories you have been told were created by argentinian politians to keep you deluded!!
Dec 09th, 2011 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long Live the Falklands.
l don't feel uneasy, l have full confidence in our military forces.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l do believe however, that the Argentines will try again.
Lets have a full military alliance with Chile.
When the black stuff starts rolling
Dec 09th, 2011 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The grey stuff, will be around in abundance to look after it,
[royal navy][grey stuff]
I didn't know Chile wanted an alliance with the Brits or is that another British fact.Like the black stuff and the grey stuff.Dreaming will not become reality,you know the movement is away from the Brits and their empireism and toward the new world and Asia.When Argentina finally recovers it's territory you will be aliens that is what is your nightmare.
Dec 09th, 2011 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All that work, and no response from the United Nations - sad !
Dec 09th, 2011 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/un-general-assembly-consider-decoloization/
@ 32 you can't woman, because this is South America and Chile is in South America and by the way, YOU ARE TOO! hahaha
Dec 10th, 2011 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Could anybody find the UK on a map? I think that was a country part of Europe, but not anymore. Not even themselves can find their own country hahaha
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/6074202.stm
#12 in UK pirats might be a common thing but it Argentina it is still illegal, in any case call mercopress and ask them to change the title in this report to sude your criteria, you never know they are white they might even do it for you.
Dec 10th, 2011 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0#15 #16you are 100% right fakland island company belongs to UK and all the british illegal aliens will have to go back to their country or apply for Argentine passports as Mexican going to el alamo texas do, no body wants confrontation all we want is international laws to apply to everyone equally.
#17 yes long live the fakland island company in UK go home illegal alien.
#20 for the reason you mentioned I support a nuclear defence program in Argentina to rid Islas Malvinas Argentina from illegal british occupation.
#20 I am sure they can be made in Argentina have you ever heard the say “where there is will there is a way” ott mention resources.
#21 LOL sorry don't compare straight Argentine men to the tipical british homsexual, you could become someones biotch in a jail just for talking like that.
#23 yawn ! is EU still in existence this morning or is it all hot air ??
#25 I support a nuclear defence program in Argentina to end the british illegal occupation of Islas Malvinas Argentna, I support equal rights.
#26 we did it for 100 years what harm will another dark spot do on a tiger skin ? for UK 100 years could mean a good nuclear defence program in Argentina and a fleet of stealth subs to go with it, or the same old ocean full of mine traps. anything is possible when we put our minds to it.
#28 quit the trashtalk son I bid anything that the most stupid Argentine in here can write and speak better enlgish then the scarse spanish your little brain could ever grasp, you are welcome to prove me wrong cuando quiera!
#30 yes! they have, but when the new one gets built you might be the last to know, right now the president was admiring Brazils nuclear subs, it won't be long before Argentine contracts the same flu.
“After your attempts at economic commentary on another post i can only say that the last word would be really far too kind for your goodself but then I suppose teaboys as a rule dont have any grasp of economics do they?”
Dec 10th, 2011 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah there you are. thought you'd given up. Please enlighten us with your economic wisdom.
Wait for it! here it comes!
22 O gara (#) Dec 09th, 2011 -
“ Teaboy you really talk a good game a little like the English futbol team.
But the facts are the City are ever more rattled by Argentinas diplomatic iniative.Camerons disastrous performance this morning in Europe gives Argentina a serious possibility to advance its case in the one continent where the City had maintained an advantage.With Latin American influence gaining massive ground in the US in both terms of population and trade the City will become completely marginalized on the Malvinas.Press on Sr Puricelli they will soon be in Buenos Aires in a hurry to talk”
- Oh dear. I really felt hopeful. I was “willing” you to say something intelligent. What a disapointment.
22 O gara (#) Dec 09th, 2011 -
Dec 10th, 2011 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ Teaboy you really talk a good game a little like the English futbol team.
-NENA
But the facts are the City are ever more rattled by Argentinas diplomatic iniative
FACTS. SHOW US TONTO
.Camerons disastrous performance this morning in Europe gives Argentina a serious possibility to advance its case in the one continent where the City had maintained an advantage.With Latin American influence gaining massive ground in the US in both terms of population and trade the City will become completely marginalized on the Malvinas.Press on Sr Puricelli they will soon be in Buenos Aires in a hurry to talk”
HAHAHA YOU ARE A FUNNY MAN.
@yuleno
Dec 10th, 2011 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ok heres a little lesson for you. Yes a country can have debts of 100% or more of its GDP, but that does not mean that country is 100% in debt as to be 100% in debt would mean you can not obtain anymore debt, bit like maxing out yur credit card, but countrys do not have credit cards, the money is their for those that can afford to repay it to continue to borrow. So even if we had a national debt of 200% plus of our gdp we will still not be anywhere near 100% in debt - Unfortunately you argentina simply do not have the brains cells to understand the difference.
And another thing, O'gara claims the citys debt is 80% of our GDP well if he took into account the debts owed to the city and the interest payments, then it would be clear to him the no the city is not running at a loss equal to 80% of our GDP infact its running at a profit, hence why its the 2nd largest financial sector in the world, hence why the banks are horading billions of pounds in profit in reserve to protect themselves in the even of further crisis, surely if they were in debt, they would not be in profit by billions of pounds. You also have all repayments from civilians such as mortage payers and loan payers adding to the profit of the banks. To say the Financial sector is 80% of our total debt towards our GDP when the financial sector is only worth 10% of our GDP is... Well ridiculous.
Oh and britains trade deficit narrowed at the fastest pace since records began in October due to increased exporting (not to EU coutries either) and a decrease in importing, so not all doom and gloom like you argentines would like everyone to believe.
www.fsa.gov.uk/pubs/final/darwin_clifton.pdf
Dec 10th, 2011 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-1662624/FSA-insider-trade-fine-for-Falklands-Speaker.html
Facts
Desire is an AIM-quoted company founded to explore oil and gas in the Falkland Islands. Mr Clifton was a non-executive director of Desire, and both Clifton and Byron were long-term shareholders of the company. During the course of 2006 and 2007, Desire was engaged in discussions with Arcadia Petroleum Ltd (Arcadia) in relation to a joint venture agreement. Mr Clifton was aware of these discussions and knew that it was likely that if an agreement was concluded that it would significantly benefit Desire's business. Between November 2007 and February 2008 Mr Clifton instructed Byron to purchase a number of shares in Desire on four occasions. On 25 February 2008 Desire issued an announcement that it had concluded the agreement. At close of trading that day Desire's shares were worth 46.5p, a rise of approximately 36% on the price at close of the previous trading day.
www.herbertsmith.com/NR/rdonlyres/F597B911-77BA-472A-B878-2F90E6707928/0/MarketabuseupdateMAY09FINAL.pdf
www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-1662624/FSA-insider-trade-fine-for-Falklands-Speaker.html
“ALL ARGENTINE'S” are feeling uneasy with UK's illegal aliens in Islas Malvinas Argentina, this is why I support a nuclear defence program for Argentina!
To those of you Brits who are upset that your country is in a weak state financially
Dec 10th, 2011 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Britain,as well as the other European countries,and the USA,have all said that they looking to Latin America and Asia to get them out of the crisis that these examples of correctness got themselves into.they did it themselves and Britain was at the front of the mismanagement
The UK economy is in decline and that shows up in all the economic indicators that measure economic activity.
It is not possible anything without a comparator,therefore,it is somewhat stupid to say you can't have 100%debt.Without a comparator you cannot have 1%.
Only 89years left maximum before you need a passport.
I guess all the countries welded to the Euro can just look towards Agentina. There is a country that was completely bankrupt just ten short years ago and look at it now. An Argentine will tell you that 'everyone feels rich' there and they are the new economic power that everyone is fighting to do business with.
Dec 10th, 2011 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you believe them.
@42 God Loves an English man always has always will!!! Britain is still the Country in the world that EVERY nation wants to do business with and WE still have our triple AAA rating!!
Dec 10th, 2011 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would You like a loan for Your nuclear defence program, so much for peaceful means.
Happy Christmas Yuleno and remember LONG LIVE THE FALKLANDS.
@5 Exactly. Telling lies so big and blatantly false is not diplomacy. It just undermines the Argentine government's credibility.
Dec 10th, 2011 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure Elaine...uk credibility,is Zero!! Chagoss island,res 2065,that called for good faith negotiations...Just cut the crap elaine.uk IS FINISHED!!!
Puricelli is rigth...uk are gonners...
@22 “the City” A very interesting comment. Confirming that there is only one place that can be called “the City” and have everyone know where is meant! As it happens, David Cameron is VERY popular in Britain today! We are looking forward to the end of the euroslugs. And, as the mercosluts carry on talking to the euroslags, Britain can look forward to not having to accept any Argie crap. Also looking forward to watching you trying to sell your crap to a bankrupt continent.
Dec 10th, 2011 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29 Did you know that your last paragraph is drivel. Would you like to know how long Argentina has had the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands in the last 321 years? Never. How about how long Argentina has had control over the same period? 2 years 9 months.
@34 & 36 You may not have noticed but Chile has 8 frigates in its navy. And 4 of them are British. Chile exercises jointly with the Royal Navy and refuels it as well. By the way, did you read this? http://en.mercopress.com/2010/09/20/brazil-uk-defence-cooperation-treaty-joint-amphibious-exercises-in-rio
@37 Actually, Argentina is illegal. Try to keep up. The Falkland Islands Company only has a limited interest in the Islands after it sold all its agricultural assets to the Falkland Islands Government. Good luck with your nuclear defence programme - aimed at defending the Islands from Argentina. I spent many years working at the border of my country. Haven't seen a “straight” Argentine “man” yet! Is the EU still in existence? Don't care. “I bid anything that the most stupid Argentine in here can write and speak better enlgish”. Well, you can't. Argentina has NEVER built a submarine of its own. Best its ever done is to put to gether a kit made by someone else.
@42 Latin America may have been mentioned. But that isn't YOU. Except that you might be a good place to sell stuff that we can't sell to intelligent countries. How ARE things now that your “government” has cut its subsidies? Do you still “feel rich”?
#46 Conqueror (@42)
Dec 10th, 2011 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And don't forget that the submarine that tried to hit British Navy ships in 1982 missed with ALL the torpedoes. Why? a 'technician' aka an Argie Pratt, mis-wired the gyroscope DC supply (+ = - & - = +) which when the thing was in the tube ran the gyroscope up to speed BACKWARDS. As the three torpedoes left the tubs (one failed to leave) and the gimbal lock was released the gyros inverted and sent the torpedo in the wrong direction!
I bet the technician was chucked out of a plane without a 'chute for that.
Maybe argentina needs a regime change so that they can concentrate on there own country rather than using the Falklands as an excuse for failed policies and corrupt politicians.
Dec 10th, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for a nuclear sub they cost a lot of money to build and even more to maintain and thats one thing argentina does not possess or get hold of as they insist on not paying there debts.
Long Live the Falklands.
Why do you war-like Brits keep going on about military stuff.You only know the propaganda.The fact are,that without US agreement it's all wasted talk.You cannot move a nuclear weapon without yanqui permission,unlike when they exploited your weakness in WW2.Them were the days when you could be warlike,now things have changed,Haven't they.Soon the occupation will be over.
Dec 10th, 2011 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Soon the occupation will be over.
Dec 10th, 2011 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you argies will be sailing back to good old Europe
The fact are, that without US agreement it's all wasted
Dec 10th, 2011 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[not true] we are very much smaller than the Americans, but then Argentina is tiny compared to us,
The yanks only re-fit the missiles , we have our own warheads, and they are for defence only,
[but we can, like the rest , use them if required] as with the rest of the nuclear powers,
………………..
Exploited your weakness in WW2
different time in history, , in WW2 we had an empire, we were exhausted at the end of it,
Royal Navy Warship Strength In 1939 ....
The Royal Navy, still the largest in the world in September 1939, included:
15 Battleships & battlecruisers, of which only two were post-World War 1. Five 'King George V' class battleships were building.
7 Aircraft carriers. One was new and five of the planned six fleet carriers were under construction. There were no escort carriers.
66 Cruisers, mainly post-World War 1 with some older ships converted for AA duties. Including cruiser-minelayers, 23 new ones had been laid down.
184 Destroyers of all types. Over half were modern, with 15 of the old 'V' and 'W' classes modified as escorts. Under construction or on order were 32 fleet destroyers and 20 escort types of the 'Hunt' class.
60 Submarines, mainly modern with nine building.
45 escort and patrol vessels with nine building, and the first 56 'Flower' class corvettes on order to add to the converted 'V' and 'W's' and 'Hunts'. However, there were few fast, long-endurance convoy escorts.
TOTAL STRENGTH AND LOSSES
ROYAL NAVY
Warship types Strength as of Sept 1939 Commissioned to Aug 1945 TOTAL IN SERVICE TOTAL LOSSES
Capital ships 15 5 20 5
Carriers 7 58 65 10
Cruisers 66 35 101 34
Destroyers 184 277 461 153
Submarines 60 178 238 76
TOTALS 332 553 885 278
885 not bad for a little warrior tribal island .
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Another bad idea !
Dec 11th, 2011 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/12/11/falklands-war-archaeology-controversy/
Exploited your weakness in WW2
Dec 11th, 2011 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0different time in history, , in WW2 we had an empire, we were exhausted at the end of it,
Very revealing.So you do recognise that times have changed.You had an empire,but now it's different.You were exhausted,and countries fought liberation wars against you and other colonial countries and you surrendered to them.You have never recovered your strength.It passed to the yanqui.You have even joined the EU to enjoy a large Market where you could recover your economic power,and it's failing.Your gvt feels uneasy about Argentina and it's claim for the Malvinas.Uneasy because increasingly you are losing the ability to influence matters in general.At least,now,some people in your country are beginning to recognise that the historical trend is in favour of Argentina.
53 Yuleno
Dec 11th, 2011 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course we recognise that times have changed since WW2. What kind of ludicrous propagada bubble do you live in in that stupid school of yours?
What you need to recognise is that this doesn't change the commitment of the UK to the best interests of the remnants of its former empire, or our determination to forge our own future as other countries of the empire did.
This is not a popularity contest. You don't get to 'win' the Falklands if you get enough neighbours to support you. That's not how it works.
The sooner you recognise that the sooner you stop making yourself look stupid with your self- destructive and doomed policies.
@53
Dec 11th, 2011 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you really believe we are going to hand over the Falklands to you,it aint going to happen
30 years of IRA bombings didnt work, so you lot stamping your feet sure aint going to do the trick,you are Naive if you think you will win with diplomacy that is not backed up with Military Strength, anyway keep up the wish, if it makes you happy, go for your life
@53Yuleno,
Dec 11th, 2011 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0What part of “There will be NO negotiations about sovereignty” don't you understand?
They have a problem with the word NO - too many letters for an Argentine brain ... and too many implications :-)
Dec 11th, 2011 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@53 Yuleno you do talk rubbish and your belief that the UK is finished is misplaced Britain will ALWAYS rally to protect its territories from alien (argentine) countries.
Dec 11th, 2011 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long Live the Falklands.
http://www.lacapital.com.ar/politica/Piera-ratifico-que-Chile-respalda-el-derecho-argentino-sobre-Malvinas-20111211-0065.html
Dec 11th, 2011 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For you all falklanders & british people, official possition of Chile-
Regards,
@59 Rosarino talk is cheap and only action will make argentina's fairy tale come true and that will NEVER happen as all south american countries can do is talk and sign worthless pieces of paper.
Dec 11th, 2011 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long Live the Falklands.
http://www.infobae.com/notas/621589-Chile-ratifica-que-respalda-el-derecho-de-Argentina-sobre-Malvinas.html
Dec 11th, 2011 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Presiden of Chile, Sebastián Piñera, reiterated Chile´s support to argentinian sovereignty rights over Malvinas”.
Looks like you`ll need St Helena`s airport...
#54-in particular,you only have a remnant of an empire because you didn't do enough for the countries you occupied.Most chose a destructive war of liberation to free their country from British exploitation,some you realized were better resolved by negotiation.(wisely in the circumstance))
Dec 11th, 2011 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#56 57 58 &60.....Again you resort to an imagined war that you will fight against Argentina to perpetuate your occupation of Las Malvinas.What you need to do is to realise that those who,in fact,occupy the territory are not the ones who will make the policy change that will be made in the future.The politicians of the UK will be the ones who decide if it is worth continuing to occupy the islands.That will be made on the balance of costs and benefits.Imagine that Latin American countries boycotted UK trade until the UK withdrew from las Malvinas.In this century because Argentina have the right and the UK occupies Las Malvinas will be freed from occupation.
#62 Yuleno
Dec 11th, 2011 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No-one presntly reading MercoPress will be alive to see the fabled 'Malvinas' occupied by Argentina, nor the next century, nor the next... DO YOU GET IT NOW?
There are no Malvinas, only the Falklands.
@62 Yuleno No one is occupying malvinas as that country does not exist only in works of romantic fiction which is standard reading in argentine schools!!!
Dec 11th, 2011 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are NO political parties in the UK that will simply hand over the Falklands for argentina to turn into an adventure park!!!!!!!!!!!!
And if you are going to rely on the whole of south america to boycott British trade then you are going to be waiting for hell to freeze over as the trade is not large enougth to have a severe impact on the UK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
#63 & 64.the islands exists and las Malvinas is a,A,name for them.Argentina will recover them this century irrespective of who is alive and who is not.
Dec 11th, 2011 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The question of Latin America boycotting British trade is a reminder to you to think why you boycott Cuba which is because the yanqui tells you to,whether you want to or not.
Beware the labour party papamoa.you know they defend different interests to the conservatives!
A technique to usurp the free Falkland Islands!
Dec 11th, 2011 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. Puricelli is one of those hyphenated Argentineans whose parents probably came from Italy not long ago. Now, he is a member of a contingent of mussolineans who aspire to redraw the atlas of the South Atlantic region through a disinformation campaign. But, why no redrawing at the same time the map of other areas of the world?
Mr. Puricelli: Please ask dear Italy to “return” to the Kingdom of Spain the old Kingdoms of Sicily and Naples. And also, tell Italy to “return” to Austria the South Tyrol and Triest (Trieste.) Those territories were grabbed from Austria after WWI. You see, that was much, much later than 1833! Also ask the USA, to please “return” to Spain, Porto Rico and Cuba, and to Colombia, the Republic of Panama, and last but not least, insist upon the USA to “return COD,” both the State of Louisiana to the French Republic and the State of Alaska to Holy Russia. In my humble opinion, these few suggestions should inspire you in the usurpation of other people's territories!
Philippe
Yuleno
Dec 11th, 2011 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We think you may be reading from the wrong hyme book,
Yes we were weak and exhausted,
We fought for freedom, and much of it on our own,
1914-18 we were alone for some time,
1939-45 we were alone for some time,
And failed politicians and our enemies said [Britain is finished]
We won the Falklands, and the silly Argies say Britain is finished,
We use our veto in Europe, and they all say, Britain is finished,
[guess what]
BRITAIN IS STILL HERE,
And will be ,, long after the likes of Argentina has given up her freedom and country, for A deluded obsession of the Falklands .
.
@65 Please remember the Labour party did not entertain cfk (love her special recipe chicken breast yum yum) and her foolish claims on the Falklands!!
Dec 11th, 2011 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yes the Islands do exist and they are called the Falklands and argentina will never get them unless the Falklanders decide that is what they want!!
Long Live the Falklands.
62 Yuleno
Dec 11th, 2011 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are Falkland Islanders. We don't have any kind of empire.
As for.....'' Most chose a destructive war of liberation to free their country from British exploitation'' ????
Okay there was the Americans, and......oh the Irish, and....hmm struggling now......Malaysia maybe.
So not 'most'. Most countries of the British Empire were granted independence as the empire came to a natural end. Your idea that the British could have kept them if they had done more for them is absolutely ludicrous. Educate yourself.
And Latin America is not going to boycott trade with the UK until you get back anything. That is because they can see what you are to puffed up to notice; that it won't work. It won't make any difference and it isn't going to happen.
No-one cares about the falklands except for you and us, and we care more because it is our home. That's why we will win and you will lose.
indirectly we inadvertently help the colonials to independence,
Dec 11th, 2011 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we actualy employed and trained their leader,
[very true] wanna no more ?
Piñera confirmed that Chile supports the right of Argentina on Malvinas
Dec 12th, 2011 - 02:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The Chilean government's position is clear and firm: endorse and support the right of Argentina, for legal and historical reasons, over the Islas Malvinas and surrounding islands,” said the chilean president .
The full story:
http://www.lacapital.com.ar/politica/Piera-ratifico-que-Chile-respalda-el-derecho-argentino-sobre-Malvinas-20111211-0065.html
60 Papamoa: yes, is free, but all latinamerican countryes said FREELY the same: and is possible, this year, to finish FLIGTHS or maybe we can put our taxes on its fligths, whit agreement on chileans, because TALK IS FREE, AND BECAUSE Chile recognize our sovereignity rigths on Malvinas, and that sovereignity inthe facts is charge taxes when you buy some stuff on Chile rigth?
Dec 12th, 2011 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Many ways to squeeze your proud my friends....
Regards- ;)
The only country ever to have a claim to the Islands other than Britain, was Spain - she's said nothing in 187 (nearly 179) years !
Dec 12th, 2011 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rosy - tax away, there are always alternatives. And your neighbours are not as supportive as you'd like to think :-)
Kenyatta Nhurumah Mugabe.just names Monty69.the wars they had to fight where destructive.British military action in India,was it war or repression.That the problem with Brits.You don't hear.It has to be imposed on you,your pride for being violent is psychotic and eventually you destroy yourselves.Las Malvinas will be freed from such an ideology.you are not superior,merely greed and violent
Dec 12th, 2011 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 074 Yuleno
Dec 12th, 2011 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your problem is that you are a nasty little racist bigot. I would never assume that all Argentines were like you though.
How dare you call me violent and psychotic. I'm neither, and you know nothing about me.
The Falklands are free and we're very happy about it. The British help us to remain free to be whatever we want.
Nobody said they were superior to you. That's the old Argentine paranoid inferiority complex talking there. Why don't you just grow up, stop obsessing about the British and make something of yourselves? You don't have to persecute us to do it. That way lies failure, and more grudges against the British, because you've picked another battle you can't win.
75 Monty69:
Dec 12th, 2011 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those people who live in the island even recognize theirselves as a natives from south america, a latinamerican ! They think they´re live in, I don´t know, Southampton? As them, we are not the paranoic...their are so much racist than Hitler-
By the way, Hitler in 1938 recognize black superiority in Berlin Games, because they won in several games. UK want to close our participation because our sport teams want to use a MALVINAS ARGENTINAS phrase in their Tshirt-
Who is more racist?
Regards
No politics in sport - didn't you know that ??
Dec 12th, 2011 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0;-)
#76 Political slogans are banned by FIFA and the IOC, nothing to do with the UK. Please go ahead and embarass your country if you desire, we don't care.
Dec 12th, 2011 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In answer to your question as to who is the most racist, a non-sequitur if ever there was one, that would be the person complaining that its racist not to allow a racist slogan on their T-Shirt.
DISCRIMINATION are part of your policy all around the world........
Dec 12th, 2011 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We don´t have an empire ;) We never conquer others peoples will by arms; and for the idiots who think we conquer patagonia killing indigenous, well, READ MORE, because ROCA and others conquist land only because Argentina has part of ENGLISH economics system, same as Paraguay and Uruguay.
Roca-Runciman for example-
Regardsssssss-----
You didn't conquer any peoples ??
Dec 12th, 2011 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No indigenous peoples ??
Not your fault ??
Rosy - you are as daft as a brush !
We FREE people- Read San Martin Life you jerk-
Dec 12th, 2011 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Regardssss
76 Rosarino
Dec 12th, 2011 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''Those people who live in the island even recognize theirselves as a natives from south america, a latinamerican''
Those people??? Hellooo is there anyone home? I live in the Falklands. Don't tell me what I think. You don't know anything about the Falklands or Falkland Islanders. I know what I see out of my window, and it's nothing like Southampton. Neither is my culture or way of life.
You are the racist because you make assumptions about me based on where you think my ancestors came from, although you don't know anything about it.
'More racist than Hitler'?? Are you a troll trying to make Argentines look like morons?
#79
Dec 12th, 2011 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Triple_Alliance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Triple_Alliance
Both examples of Argentina conquering other people by arms. Trying to lay the blame on other people is pretty pathetic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Triple_Alliance
Another example, more recent of Argentina using force of arms to conquer “peoples”.
I thought Pratt-Junta, xbollox and the Malvs were the dreggs of Argentinean society BUT I WAS WRONG.
Dec 12th, 2011 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rosarino has surpassed them all for stupidity and aggression.
Once again judge ChrisR has pronounced.Redhoyt supplied the rules of the court's ' no sport and politics here'.He is now a moderator.
Dec 12th, 2011 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you notice,how,like killer dogs,the Brits hunt together.An example of the type of psychotic behaviour to be expected from them
If they are so sure of themselves and the right to occupy Las Malvinas why does the UK feel so uneasy
82: do you feel your “LATINOAMERICANIDAD” IN ANY WAY?
Dec 12th, 2011 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was change impressions whit a lot of malvinenses, and their recognize only as british people, even don´t care if their WAS BORN IN THE SOUTHAMERICAN CONTINENT.
Triple Aliance war, ....what a stupid example...would you tell me WHICH PART WE KEEP OF THE PARAGUAYAN TERRITORY?
We cannot conquist any part of Paraguay-
And, once again for you nonsense people, the conquest of deserte it was because Argentina was cooncted as a part of the economic system of england.
Their will need cows, food, all we can provide cheap BUT whitout space is impossible-
MAPUCHES are original from Chile: Tehuelches are from Patagonia argentina-
They have rigths, but was conquest by Mapuches, so we only send them back to tehir own lands : Chile.
Cris R, no problem, is the same stupidity i read every time your people has a comment, whitout enough knoledge about what they write-
Regardssssssssss
All talk and NO action, business as usual then!
Dec 12th, 2011 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands will ALWAYS be British until the Falklanders decide otherwise and the UK will maintain a presence to preserve that right!
No amount of argentine fiction will change that, it will not influence any political party in the UK so if you want to waste your time carry on with the fairy tales and lies!
How the removal of the French Vernet in 1833 with his French colonists has anything to do with argentina is beyond me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as argentina was not a French territory!!!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
-Those people who live in the island even recognize theirselves as a natives from south america, a latinamerican !
Dec 12th, 2011 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rosarino,
Falkland Islanders may be South American, but they are not Latin American. Neither are the Guyanese or the Surinamese, who are also South American. To be Latin American, the country has to be Latin language speaking - Spanish, Portuguese, or French speaking ; not English or Dutch speaking.
-And, once again for you nonsense people, the conquest of deserte it was because Argentina was cooncted as a part of the economic system of england.
Their will need cows, food, all we can provide cheap BUT whitout space is impossible-
So you invaded and stole land that did not belong to you. Then you blame others. Pathetic.
-MAPUCHES are original from Chile: Tehuelches are from Patagonia argentina-
Patagonian Tehuelches were not Argentines until after Argentina conquered their land
-They have rigths, but was conquest by Mapuches, so we only send them back to tehir own lands : Chile.
Shame you didn't then return the land to the Tehuelches and then return to Argentina yourselves, instead you kept the stolen land and annexed it to Argentina.
86 Rosarino
Dec 12th, 2011 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You clearly don't know anything at all about Falkland Islanders, so you can stop telling me what I think.
It is Argentines who say we are indistinguishable from people from the UK. We say we are a multicultural society, British in nationality, Falkland Islanders by culture and history and not the same as someone living in Southampton, and you can say whatever you like.
to the Argentinians
Dec 12th, 2011 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Forget about South Georgia and Sandwich islands. Don't go around with these diplomatic shows, your neighbors such as Chile and Uruguay aren't putting any teeth to their “ supposed support” of Argentina. The colony has survived this long because Chile has been providing them logistical support till these day, also Uruguay.
CFK says she wants “ negotiation”. If Argentina claims the entire South Atlantic, there there is NOTHING for UK/Malvinas to negotiate. because that would mean that British will have zero sovereignty on the islands.
The SMART move is just to claim GRAN MALVINA( West Falkland), as a sign of GOOD FAITH, in accepting the UK as part of the SOUTH AMERICAN FAMILY, just like French Guyana is.
That is a negotiation, not claiming the entire Malvinas and South Georgia/Sandwich islands.
If your neighbors can't truly put teeth in their support with this Gran Malvina/W.Falkland formula, then that's it, is over.
Kenyatta Nhurumah Mugabe
Dec 12th, 2011 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong people?
The Rhodesian Bush War – also known as the Second Chimurenga or the Zimbabwe War of Liberation – was a civil war which took place between July 1964 and December 1979[note 1] in the unrecognised country of Rhodesia (latterly Zimbabwe Rhodesia).[note 2][18] The conflict pitted three forces against one another: on one side was the Rhodesian government, under Ian Smith (later the Zimbabwe Rhodesian government under Abel Muzorewa), on another was the Zimbabwe African National Liberation Army, the military wing of Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe African National Union, and on the third was the Zimbabwe People's Revolutionary Army of Joshua Nkomo's Zimbabwe African People's Union.
Most chose a destructive war of liberation to free their country from British exploitation'' ????
When the colonial administration rejected the People's Assembly's recommendations, Nkrumah organized a “Positive Action” campaign in January 1950, including civil disobedience, non-cooperation, boycotts, and strikes. The colonial administration arrested Nkrumah and many CPP supporters, and he was sentenced to three years in prison.
Kenyatta
Contrary to African customs and values, [Mau Mau members] assaulted old people, women and children. The horrors they practiced included the following: decapitation and general mutilation of civilians, torture before murder, bodies bound up in sacks and dropped in wells, burning the victims alive, gouging out of eyes, splitting open the stomachs of pregnant women. No war can justify such gruesome actions. In man's inhumanity to man there is no race distinction. The Africans were practising it on themselves. There was no reason and no restraint on both sides
@91stick up your junta,
Dec 12th, 2011 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite correct, the Argentines as usual, have twisted history to put the British in a bad light.
ln the Rhodesian war, Britain wasn't even involved.
The whites were ex-British nationals in open rebellion against the Crown.
Much like the Americans in 1776.
Look how good Mugabe has been for Zim.(being sarcastic here!).
@90Andean4000,
So you expect us just to turn over half our country to you?
What will you give us in return?
Half of your country?
@86Rosarino,
Are you telling me that you have given Paraguay it's land back?
The land that you stole from them.
Another one with a dicky keyboard.
85 Yuleno (#)
Dec 12th, 2011 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only person accusing the British of 'feeling uneasy' is the poor bastard of a Defence Minister with no means to defend his adopted country of Argentina.
I tell you one thing though, I feel quesy (that's sick) everytime I see his face.
And if it ever comes to a fighting match, that little wop will be missing before the first shot is fired.
@92 isolde
Dec 12th, 2011 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not British/Kelper,
Malvinas/S.Georgia-sandwiches is not “ half of Argentina”.
trying to get just Gran Malvina is better than nothing at all. Galtieri's invasion in 1982 was a big mistake, and this is “ Gran Malvina” route is the best solution.
CFK's “we want all the islands” is absurd and very unreallistic. Convince your neighbors to TRULY back up on this. Nobody will say that Argentina is being unfair.
Kelpers will gain alot by handing over Gran Malvina, Argentina can give ” most preferable trade status to the ones on the Eastern Islands. CFK signed a law recently that limit how much land foreigners can by, CFK can wave that to the Kelpers, you have to know how to negotiate.
claiming the entire islands, is NOT negotiation, and Argentina is not going anywhere with this issue.
Remember, Gran Malvina is better than nothing !
As a journalist, I have been investigated for problems of many countries with UK. Today, Spain reclaim against UK for Gibraltar. I would like to express for people from Argentina my hate for the british Queen (pirate) of unmoral, killer and arrogant country. The anglicanism is just a lie. God doesn´t save the Queen of terrible hell.
Dec 12th, 2011 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@92 isolde
Dec 12th, 2011 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ooops, I thought you were on the Argentina side, seems you are on the Brit/kelper side, anyways, Kelpers can gain alot more with handing over West Falkland/Gran Malvina.
@95 periodista espanola
Spain says that supports Argentina with the Malvinas issue,but she allows Spanish trade with these islands. all that squid for the tapas at the hotels in Spain.
Don't hate all the British for Gibraltar,not all British people are pirates and colonialists. Most don't even know the true history on how Gibraltar came to the hands of UK. Even mp's of Britain such as Rossindell are ignorant about the history, an has said that “ UK was at war with Spain back in 1704”.
Uk was NEVER at war with Spain during the War of Spanish Sucession. They just took side in a Civil War, which is VERY different.
The UK has given the people of Gibraltar the “ choice” of either be with Uk and Spain, so when they choose UK, Spain takes revenge just on Gibraltar, not Great Britain.
The colonists in Gibraltar celebrate an offensive ACT OF PIRACY in 1704, and expect the rest of Spain to be “ a friendly neighbor”.
Periodista Española (#)
Dec 12th, 2011 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dec 12th, 2011 - 08:35 pm
express for people from Argentina my hate for the british Queen
and we hate you so piss of, you raciest little dictator.
Never Spain will be friendly of UK, we just aceppt british just for consuming alcohol as depressive drunkers. The history of Gibraltar permited to UK to use, but not to take as a land. Drink too much as a depressive british drunker. You soul is of the pirate.
Dec 12th, 2011 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@95 You are not a very good journalist, you sound more like a drunken spanish bum who has lost his job and wife and your home!
Dec 12th, 2011 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a sad little man you are, I pity Your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#91 So you really expect me to believe your version of things.Like Isolde with Amritsar you have a magically way of selecting the fact that absolve the Brits of any involvement in events.That's known in psychiatric terms as delusional psychosis.So now you want me to believe that the war like Brits are in fact peaceable with a load of weapons.
Dec 12th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No
Dec 12th, 2011 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The brits are a peaceful nation today,
We all know what the past was, and as long as people keep throwing it up, you will never get past first post,
The UK has done many good things in the past 30 odd years, and it’s only anti British people, that don’t even know why they have a grudge in the first place, keep pushing them,
Yet those same people will be the first to start crying when it all goes wrong,
You should be looking to the future,
the first and best Christmas present Argentina could give, is to recognise the rights of the islanders, be very nice to them, and offer to help where needed, instead of abusing and trying to hurt them,
Its not rocket science is it, to be civilised to them, and it costs you nothing .
Just a Christmas thought .
Isolde:
Dec 12th, 2011 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WHAT LAND? we don´t keep ANY PIECE OF LAND, there was a political war, because Solano Lopez (and I like Solano Lopez work) wasn´t convenient for the interest of Brasil and Argentina at that time, equal as Mr. Ghandi and Mr. Mountbatten ;)
LATINAMERICA is from Mexico to Argentina, including MALVINAS my friends: and the probe you are in the wrong place is your language, because you are imported from ENGLAD to colonice extrange lands occupied ILEGALY for your ancestors.
Spain sell their colony in USA (Florida - Miami) and Russia to (Alaska) because the world is CHANGE- long time ago no empires,-
You are only there because UK whant to project their power in SOUTH ATLANTIC; there´s the only reason-
Gran Malvina is part of the archipielago, and we want all, because is our land-
BRITON: how many wars are you envolved; I have a friend here, englishman, one of the best guys I know, very good people, generous- But he knows policy, futbol, womens and beer is a serious case in England, and only INTERESES primacy-BRITON: we can give you your rigths and more; but you prefer to NO TALK and discriminate and give to us agression, agression, agression-
Wanna talk? yes, why not!! We are very good people-
Flaklanders:
Don´t forget: when 190 countryes TALK FREELY and says Argentina hace rigths on Malvinas (in shot time), WELL, you will live in UTOPIA ISLAND- and try to find the way to talk whit someone who want to speak whit you for a long time and you´ll never attend....very differents conditions ;)
Regardssssssssss...sss
Rosy - you are living a fantasy.
Dec 12th, 2011 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) the islands have been helf by the British for 178 peaceful years against the one other country that could make a claim. Spain ! Argentina has never had any rights to any of the islands.
2) 190 countries DO NOT support you. If you believe that they do then you are quite mad ! Diplomacy is a game we've been playing for centuries - you can hardly get on with your neighbours sssss
) the islands have been helf by the British for 178 peaceful years against the one other country that could make a claim. Spain ! Argentina has never had any rights to any of the islands.
Dec 12th, 2011 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 02) 190 countries DO NOT support you. If you believe that they do then you are quite mad ! Diplomacy is a game we've been playing for centuries - you can hardly get on with your neighbours sssss
AHAHAHAHHAH lord troll:uk is finished...do nto waste time on her..
102 Rosarino
Dec 13th, 2011 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Isa think you have been duped, and indoctrinated,
the UK is involved in [no] wars, the UK is not at war,[define war please]
[][]you can give me my rights, that’s interesting that is,
my descendents fought and died for my rights, many centuries ago, you cannot give me or my fellow Britons, what we already have.[rights]
Give to us aggression, aggression, aggression''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
But the history books give a different version.
It states that Argentina has given the Falklands aggression aggression
it also states that Argentina illegally and uncaringly aggressively invaded an unarmed and innocent peaceful little island race, without provocation, and thus are directly responsible for the deaths or innocent people,
Now who do we people of the earth believe
YOU and [the world according to argentine].
OR
The history book according to historical facts.
Just a historical thought.
.
103 Redhoyt:
Dec 13th, 2011 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0I´m not Rosy.
1) That´s why Spain, Chile, Uruguay, SPEAK FREELY and said we have rigths, and UK most sit to talk whit us?
Do you think they are stupid....look, there are a lot of people ;) We have the rigths for legacy of Tordecillas treat, recognized for UK-
2) sorry for my english, isn´t good enough: NOW, last votation, 120 countryes said that- WHEN 190 SAID THE SAME, your position become a (please use Google because I can´t translate this) PAPEL HIGIENICO, CON EL QUE DEBERAN LIMPIARSE your parts and start to talk whit us.
RedHoyt: we know very well diplomacy of english.
You´ll see: we have more english monuments, railways, story, museums, inmigrants, bridges, station, ARMS, SHIPS, CULTURE, paintings, or whatever you want to see in BSAS-
We love part of their culture; example: ROGER WATER FULL 9 RIVER PLATE STADIUM, more than 500.000 people see he´s art-
The only problem is: keep your ass out of south atlantic guys.......
Regardsssss---- and remember, your support on Chile will be finished soon; we put some special atention on GET and charge OUR TAXES , because Official position of Chile WHO SPEAKING FREELY SAYS WE HAVE RIGTHS on Malvinas, and is our rigth to keep import taxes on Malvinasssssss------asssss!!!!
Can you imagine that? you payng taxes?.... sera fascinante ver como pagan las importaciones and finish your “kioskito” in the south atlantic !!!!
And all because don´t want to TALK whit us..... good nitgh southamericans semi europeans people...by the way...what time is there? here is 22:39 minutes PM....ARE YOU USING GREENWICH LINE OF LONDON???
Rosy - yup, living in a fantasy.
Dec 13th, 2011 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why does Britain HAVE to listen ? Why MUST we talk ?
After all we don't have a dispute. That appears to be your problem.
And rhetoric, freely expressed or not, is forgettable. Politicians do it all the time, its called - politics :-)
You have a lot to learn.
Argentina has no rights, if she had, then the ICJ is the place to lay them out and have them adjudged.
But Argentina won't go there will she. Afraid ??
@107
Dec 13th, 2011 - 05:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Forget ICJ, is not a real court, is like you trying to go to a court controlled by the mob. ICJ can't be trusted after the ruling they had for Kosovo, going in favor of KLA thugs destroying Serbian churches, profanating Serbian cementeries.
If South America as a whole doesn't blockade Malvinas in the near future, Malvinas/Falklands got nothing to worry about. If everybody is blockading you( not just Argentina) then that is trouble. Unless you don't mind finding logistical support all the way from South Africa.
@ 106 Rosarino
tranquilo che
Just reduce the claim to Gran Malvina, forget about Soledad(East Falkland), S.Georgia and Sandwiches. Argentina can get more international support like that, that is seen as a sign of good faith.
@108Andean4000,
Dec 13th, 2011 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0So you want the West Falkland lsland, do you?
What are you offering in exchange?
What about the three southernmost Argentine provinces?
Why not? The British were there before you lot.
Get lost mate. The Falklands are not for sale.
l do however agree with you with what you said about the KLA desecrating Serbian churches etc. Don't know what to think about that one.
So if you won't go to the ICJ & you won't(can't)go to war, what hope have you? We will REFUSE to “negotiate”about sovereignty.
Far better for you to just forget about the Falklands & concentrate on your own country.
@102Rosarino,
Argentina took(stole)land from Paraguay, in, l think 1870, after a war.
Since you LatAms are all brothers now, are you going to return the land?
What you call, gran malv, is actually West Falkland. l know you want it, BUT it's NOT your land & you're NOT having it. Clear?
@100Yuleno,
So you don't believe what l posted about Amritsar? Well that's your problem & l couldn't care less.
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Just remember, 3 amigos, NO NEGOTIATIONS
The ICJ cannot be trusted ??
Dec 13th, 2011 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0The United Nation's court cannot be trusted ??
Andick -you are a fool !
Isolde, you lost your Tristan long time ago-
Dec 13th, 2011 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We want ALL ISLAND, not only one-
ICJ is like your mother house to go whit our claim- Why you don´t try to claim something in CELAC maybe?
Look the maps of Chile “plataforma Continental”: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Cl-triconti.png
Do you think, if Chile in the past would conquer the patagonia....... you´d part of Chile now, no doubt!
Why? because you are part of the SOUTH AMERICAN TERRITORY-
You are in your mind part of England ;) ---you are just a case of divan-
Argentina never stole any part of any country; in fact, Argentina loose, by treatments, more land than we claim.
Because we never had a war for limits; only in 1978, whit the same Junta who make the war against UK want to make a war whit Chile-
The country who loose more than anyone was Bolivia-
Andean4000, yo estoy muy tranquilo, but i don´t understand you - We can negotiate anything but not sovereignity, because Isolde was rigth, our view is not all islands and spaces; not just Gran Malvina-
And now, is not only our claim; our partners doesn´t want other potencias metiendose en los negocios latinoamericanos; Brasil por ejemplo, no tiene interes en la copetencia inglesa en el Atlantico sur, en temas como pesca o petroleo.
Regards, and good morning......
Rosa so much anger and a very hard to follow dialogue, things are very simple the Falklands wish to be a British overseas territory and that will be the case unless they want to be argentine, it is that easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 13th, 2011 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No amount of ranting from you will change that destiny.!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
Isolde. It's not that I don't believe what you posted on Amritsar,it's you take on it.An English man was trapped and had to defend himself.
Dec 13th, 2011 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why was he there?
What were the people threatening his safety there for?
Why would he have used machine guns if he could have?
Why did you credit him with honest?
Was he being honest or exaggerating the danger he assumed he was in?
Just some questions you might clear up before I start to think about British version of history,rather than an interpretation of individual events
Briton,sir.I believe I have asked you previously,what are these outstandingly good things the British have done for anyone.And I don't believe it's occupation of territories outside the British isles is doing anyone but the British,any good
@113 Britain helped to bring down the argentine military dictatorship and restore democracy to argentina!!! A BIG THANK YOU TO THE UK.
Dec 13th, 2011 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your Welcome.
Long LIve the Falklands
Rosy - what you want and what you are entitled to are two different things. CELA is just another Latin joke.
Dec 13th, 2011 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ICJ is the only place that is capable of deciding a sovereignty issue.
There is nowhere else for you to go.
But, hey its up to you. We don't have to go anywhere. The Islands are British and there ain't nothing that Argentina can do about it :-)
Red, Rosy is the name of my ex wife, and mentioning “it” should be banned from this forum for ever !! :-))
Dec 13th, 2011 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@109 Isolde
Dec 13th, 2011 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not Argentinian, I'm just a fellow Westernhemispherian
I consider the kelpers to be part of the South American family. I said Gran Malvina/West Falkland ( I don't put too much emphasis on names, people have a right to name geopraphical places whatever they want, but I'm putting Spanish/English names here to make this neutral.) should be enough for Argentina.
What do you get in return? you ask.
1) The East Kelpers get most preferred trade status with Argentina ( the second largetst economy in Latin America)
2) East Kelpers can buy as much land in Argentina as they want, which other foreigners can't.
Kelpers will win alot more having Argentina as a friend.
Don't count too much on that oil, the world will move away from oil as oil consumption is supporting jihadist states that fund terrorists/islamization of the secular world, and also cause environmental damage. Oil prices can fall bigtime if hundreds of millions of cars switch to hydrogen and other alternatives, oil will be used just for heating, and its derrivatives to make roads and tires, but to run cars, is going to get reduced.
There is this bloke in the UK that invented something that can retain hydrogen in large quantities and safely for cars, the British oil lords and others are hating on him, trying to shut him out, because they think he will take “ their lunch money” away.
The West Falklanders can give Argentina a “ 20 year trial” of sovereigty, Kelpers would still have the highest degree of autonomy within the Argentine Republic.
no immigration from Argentina to West Falkland/Gran Malvina
the British military stays in West Falkland/Gran Malvina.
and ofcourse, Kelpers keep all their land, property, language, left side of road, etc.
“ a 20 year trial period” , if kelpers don't like Argentina sovereignty, that's it, back to British or independence.
Argentina never stole any part of any country; in fact, Argentina loose, by treatments, more land than we claim.
Dec 13th, 2011 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rosarino,
Argentina stole The Pampa, Patagonia, and Tierra del Fuego from their indigenous inhabitants. These were annexed by Argentina after independence.
#118 are you confused as to the difference between the unitied provinces, buenos aires and Argentina.Or are you just looking to try to compare Argentina with the UK.(I bet you will say you can't compare argentina to the UK)(oops should have thought to myself)
Dec 13th, 2011 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Yuleno. I'm not confused. They were never Spanish territories. They were annexed at various times after independence. It doesn't matter whether it was called United Provinces or Argentina when the annexation happened.
Dec 13th, 2011 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dab14763:
Dec 13th, 2011 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What are you questioning?
Argentina was free in 1816; we occupied Patagonia in several times, from Rosas to Roca campaign-
At your sigth, all countyes, including UK, kill people to get territory-
We occupied our legacy from Spain, including in Tordecillas treatment-
Even Chile do the same-
Or Brasil-
BUT WE NEVER DO A WAR FOR KEEP TERRITORY- We never stolen territory-
UK can said the same?
You knew about India? or Pakistan? Yuo knew 190 million people displacement in indian peninsula, because Mr. Mountbatten´s idea was “divide & conquer” policy? You knew 4.5 million people die in India in “pacific resistance” policy of Mahatma ?
Or Jordania, invented for Churchill?
Come on my friend- we can´t compare whit UK in several items...but in that item, we are babys compare whit that people-
And don´t tell me about Mapuche crap, because Mapuches are originals from Chile, they conquer Tehuelches and we fait against them and send them back to Chile-
Regardssssssss......
Artillero: mis respetos a Rosy, este idiota solo quiere humillar, y lo unico que logra es que me cague de risa por lo poco maduro de su discursito--- como dirian en Santiago...es un hombre chiquitito-
Saludos
@121
Dec 13th, 2011 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-))
sabes lo que mas me molesta?
Dec 13th, 2011 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0que no ven siquiera la posibilidad de ser mas independientes, de tener poder para exigir condiciones, inversiones, mantener ingresos iguales o superiores a los que tienen, pedir trato de provincia y no ser parte de (como serian hoy, parte de TDF), lo que les daria derecho a coparticipacion, recaudacion de IIBB, etc etc etc.
Lo peor es que cada vez mas ingleses viven aqui y eligen Rosario por ejemplo como lugar para vivir e invertir, como muchos otros lugares-
Ellos son como niños que prefieren estar bajo el paraguas de un pais a 14mil km de distancia, y que como pais, solo tiene intereses, y que cuando le convenga los dejarán, tarde o temprano sucederá, y alli estaremos nosotros- Y que pasara con ellos?
Realmente necesitan un gran divan y mucho dialogo interno-
En fin, una locura-
Saludos
#123 the English think the people in Rosario should thank the English for living there.they generally think they are superior to all other people.Except maybe the yanquis
Dec 13th, 2011 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no teentiendo Yuleno- Viven aqui very rich guys and poor guys....and they don´t feel superiors...even they work and share all time but I can´t see what you say-
Dec 13th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Regardss
121 Rosarino
Dec 13th, 2011 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''And don´t tell me about Mapuche crap, because Mapuches are originals from Chile, they conquer Tehuelches and we fait against them and send them back to Chile-''
Well I'm glad we sorted that one out. If booting people out because they originally came from somewhere else is ok, then you don't have much of a claim to the Falklands do you. The British found you here in 1833 and sent you back where you came from. QED.
113 Yuleno
Dec 14th, 2011 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you honestly don’t know what the UK government has done,
Then no amount of explanation would help [would it]
But then again to be fair,
Let’s hear what Argentina has done for the freedom of others,
Or helping the poor,
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if they do not belive the history books, then their is no point in convincing them is there,
for those who think the ICJ and the UN are rubbish,
then their is no hope of salvation.
Argentina will do , what argentina will do.
and what ever happens will be down to argentina,
your move ??
Monty69, you are very very funny guy..... probably you are the last zorro extinted in the Malvinas area....
Dec 14th, 2011 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0At your sigth, the world belong to Adan & Eva ;)
By the way, we incorporate the Tehuelches as gauchos or soldiers and they integrate to our society-
Listen: as all american, we do wrong things; sometimes pushed by others interest of countryes, sometimes because our full; but we repare our wrongs movements whit “pueblos originales”-
Brasil has the same problem.
USA, same thing-
So if you want to be Mapuche Redentor, get some mapuche friends and come to BUE or Rosario to make a discussion group about it ;)
Briton: the problem is not ONU, is ICJ-
You´ll see, we have reasons to believe the ICJ is not blind, deaf and dumb-
We think ICJ is partial for South Atlantic issues, y responde a intereses britanicos, los mismos intereses que casi nos llevan a una guerra con Chile en 1978-
Regards-
Roady (happy now Art ?) - You appear like so many of your countrymen, to have a very limited grasp of your country's history. Looking at it through 'Rose Tinted' glasses in fact (sorry Art).
Dec 14th, 2011 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Unitied provinces held very little of the south cone in 1816. They didn't hold much more in 1833.
Argentina 'conquered' the lands to the south. Argentina never had and right to those land. Uti possidetis juris did not apply, so Argentina employed uti possidetis de fact instead !
It's out of favour these days but de facto was the principle legal argument for expansion for centuries :-)
You don't have to be crazy to be a member of the Argentine Cabinet, but it certainly helps!
Dec 14th, 2011 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0@113Yuleno,
Dec 14th, 2011 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you do some research on the subject and you will get all the answers.
l have already mentioned the title of one book. There are others.
You ask what he was doing there, well one thing l do know.
He wasn't cutting Hindu Ladies' fingers off as that poltroon, Malvinero1 stated.
@129
Dec 14th, 2011 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Roady (happy now Art ?).... Much better Red, thank you! :-)
On the war of 1812, here is the American side of the story:
1. Both Britain and France were interfering with American trade and were taking American ships.
2. The United States believed that Britain still not treating it as an independent country, and was actually providing Native Americans with guns to attack American settlers.
3. The United States also wanted to take Canada from Britain, and Florida from Spain.
Obviously, nobody learnt to share their toys when they were little ! ;-)))))
Well we kept Canada - how's Spanish Florida doing ? :-)
Dec 14th, 2011 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#131 unfortunately I am unable to research every subject matter that arise on mercosur.I therefore asked you the questions as it appeared you would have the answers
Dec 14th, 2011 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rosarino that your English acquaintances do not appear to think they are superior might be true,or it might be that you are not the average argentinian.You know there can be exception to general steretypical guidelines as to operational summations of any individual.That of course would apply to argentinians also
134 Yuleno
Dec 14th, 2011 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''.....can be exception to general steretypical guidelines as to operational summations of any individual''
Good grief. If your teachers are not teaching you to think beyond stereotypes then they deserve to be sacked.
Okay, I'll give you a stereotype.......
All stereotypes are bad.
Independent thought is good.
I'll go further if you like.....applying sterotypes to people on account of their nationality is unacceptable racism.
the white house got its name from the british in essence,
Dec 14th, 2011 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it was the british army that painted the building white,
during the war, and thus become knowed as [the white house]
**brit
Dec 14th, 2011 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i don't guess any colours have meanings white or others...
the british history has been white ?? ... it is beige for me !!
the white house does have meaning,
Dec 15th, 2011 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0ask the Americans,
[the british history has been white]
yes sir, whiter than white.
@138briton,
Dec 15th, 2011 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0l believe we burned part of it down.
137 geo: it was very very bloody red-
Dec 15th, 2011 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Saludos
~140 Rosy
Dec 15th, 2011 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just like the poor bastards thrown out of airplanes without parachutes by the Argentinean Government.
It doesn't matter how you die, screaming or instantly by a bullet to the medulla oblongata, when you are dead, you are dead.
Please do try and not be so hypocritical.
Cry-Still, el plomo britanico ha regado de sangre todo el globo-
Dec 15th, 2011 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Una cosa es ser olvidadizo y otra ignorante-
Donde te pongo?
Y sí, hemos tenido errores como argentinos...pero estoy seguro que no hemos matado tanta gente como Uds. en toda su historia-
Unos 4.5 millones en India....cuantos habran matado? 8-9 millones en todas sus guerras?
Sería interesante contabilizarlos no crees? Hitler es un bebe de pecho al lado de Uds..... por algo los respetaba tanto ;)
Saludos ;)
139 lsolde , i cant remember if we painted it, before or after the fire,
Dec 15th, 2011 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0still its all part of history now .
Isolde. Another question for you.You didnt answer any of the others.
Dec 15th, 2011 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When a person sees another person for the first time,does the other person say everything about themselves,or does the first person use their knowledge and experience to make assumptions,which she will then test,in practice,to ascertain the veracity or not of their first assumption
Supplementary question-how do people recognise other people and if they are of a different gender,do they make assumptions on the basis of their gender
Los Kelpers tienen miedo y eso es natural en aquellos que saben que estan haciendo las cosas mal.
Dec 15th, 2011 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tic - Tac - Tic - Tac. Es solo una cuestion de tiempo.
Kelpers feel fear, and that is natural on those who know that are doing the wrong.
Tic -Tac- Tic -Tac.
Saludos Piratas en decadencia!!!!!
#142 Rosy
Dec 15th, 2011 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Olvidado cómo escribir en Inglés ahora?
Well lads (the British) old Rosy has just invoked Hitler so Godwins Law is in play: this means we win this topic!
But no doubt the Argies will whine and cry about it and deny the result because it was formulated by an America.
www.cadena3.com/contenido/2011/12/15/89394.asp
Dec 15th, 2011 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0news of Malvinas in the region that MP dont publish
you are all wasting your breath in here, UK is suppose to file a complain to UN and wait in line as the rest of us do, we being waiting for UK to deal with this issue, but complaining here will do the british illegal aliens occupying Islas Malvias Argentina no good, I have a solution for tis illegal aliens get your immigration papers or ge the hell out of Agentina, simple or else STFU already.
Dec 15th, 2011 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mingo ya los vamos contagiando, ahora nos escriben en español.
Dec 15th, 2011 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#149 Yo
Dec 15th, 2011 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, you are not spreading, except thinking about it you bunch are a bit diseased.
The rule of MercoPress is English. Please use it if you wish to have replies to your posts.
is it a bird ?
Dec 15th, 2011 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is it a plane ?
no its argie lier flyers.
bla bla bla
148 Pratt-Junta
Dec 15th, 2011 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has not signed the declaration to the ICJ.
Britain HAS.
You can mouth off all you like, but until you lot DO sign to the ICJ, that is all it is MOUTHING OFF.
@144Yuleno,
Dec 15th, 2011 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l could not be bothered to explain to anyone my thoughts or reasonings as to what happened at Amritsar in 1919.
For a start,obviously, l was not there at that time to experience the full events & what lead up to them.
As l said, there are several books written about it & of course the lndian history books will have their version as well.
l found the book that l liked best was called:-
“Six Minutes to Sunset”, can't remember the author but you can google it if you're interested.
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As for your other questions, l will try my best although l do not know where all this is leading.
You see l am very wary of Argentines because l do not trust them.
lt's a sad world, but there you have it.
1)When meeting someone for the first time, l would never reveal everything about myself. You do not know anything about the person you have just met & whatmotivates them.
Knowledge is power & they could use the information you have given them, against you. You must know this, Yuleno.
2)Everyone makes assumptions based on gender & it's a sad state of affairs that they do.
Merry Christmas, Yuleno.♥
YO, solo hago que se vayan acostumbrando al español-
Dec 16th, 2011 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0By the way, B RAVO MUJICA-- all soth america do the same
I hope Piñera & Cristina agree to cut or
supervise those fligth and COLLECT TAX as normal citizenssss
I´m happy-
Regardsssss
#153-where I am going is toward establishing the fact that everyone makes assumptions in their process of organising knowledge.The problem is when one has a certain amount of knowledge they organise it according to other information,such as related information.They take shortcuts to get to a conclusion,if you like.Now you must realise that the indigenous people at Amritsar had their reasons for their actions.Therefore both had their reasons but without knowing,in this example,both sides of the story,it is a bit presumptuous to have a definitive conclusion.
Dec 16th, 2011 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@155Yuleno,
Dec 17th, 2011 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0l have given you the title of one book. One of many.
Read it & of course the others & draw your own conclusions.
Happy researching.
In Amritsar, India's holy city of the Sikh religion, British and Gurkha troops massacre at least 379 unarmed demonstrators meeting at the Jallianwala Bagh, a city park. Most of those killed were Indian nationalists meeting to protest the British government's forced conscription of Indian soldiers and the heavy war tax imposed against the Indian people.
Dec 17th, 2011 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A few days earlier, in reaction to a recent escalation in protests, Amritsar was placed under martial law and handed over to British Brigadier General Reginald Dyer, who banned all meetings and gatherings in the city. On April 13, the day of the Sikh Baisakhi festival, tens of thousands of people came to Amritsar from surrounding villages to attend the city's traditional fairs. Thousands of these people, many unaware of Dyer's recent ban on public assemblies, convened at Jallianwala Bagh, where a nationalist demonstration was being held. Dyer's troops surrounded the park and without warning opened fire on the crowd, killing several hundred and wounding more than a thousand. Dyer, who in a subsequent investigation admitted to ordering the attack for its “moral effect” on the people of the region, had his troops continue the murderous barrage until all their artillery was exhausted. British authorities later removed him from his post.
History.com
Do I need to read more or just wait for you to explain what's unreliable about History.com
@157Yuleno,
Dec 17th, 2011 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are doing some research, bravo.
Pray continue.
Don't make your mind up until you have read everything.
Some works are biased of course.
Keep an open mind.
mind you, it doesent help the poor men womas children and babies the indians killed does it
Dec 18th, 2011 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's not research Isolde.It's something from the Internet that I copied and pasted,to highlight to you,there is another story.
Dec 18th, 2011 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Had you read it before.
Briton,your contribution was highly effective and to the point.That's about the first post from you that has impressed me to such an extent.Keep it up.
thank you,
Dec 18th, 2011 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the only interest i had, was the fact a decendent of mine was in india at the time of the rebelion, and whitnessed bad things from both sides,
least forgets i think .
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