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“Malvinas is a global cause” because it involves the grabbing of natural resources
“Malvinas is not an Argentine cause, it’s a global cause because they are taking our fisheries and oil resources” said Argentine president Cristina Fernandez on taking the Mercosur rotating chair for the next six months. Read full article
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Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0More like the citys membership of the security council will soon be numbered.City,England,Europe ever more irrelevant.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ogaga - you're gaga !
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0This story is being done to death !
All becauee these are key decisions.The citys presence in the south atlantic are every day more untenable
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ban us we do not care we do not have to send our ships to some seedy corrupted Country............cutting of your nose's springs to mind....come on Falklands ban Argie passport from coming in NOW, lets get on the sauce, lets stop the flight coming in from Chile before they do ACT NOW.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK says the UK “does not respect any of the resolution of the international organizations because it happens to be a permanent member of the UN Security Council”
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is incorrect. The UK respects its Treaty obligations to the UN, which prevail over all other obligations, which is why the UK adopts the position it has taken since it follows the express democratic wishes of the Falkland Islanders according to UN Charter Article 73 to which Great Britain is legally bound to obey and its duties as the Administrating Country under resolution 1514(XV) and 1654(XVI)
Argentina has not taken responsibility for its abandonment of its UN Treaty obligations under Articles 2 and 74 nor its abandonment of resolutions 1514(XV) and 2065(XX) when Argentina unlawfully attacked, invaded and occupied the Falkland Islands and subjugated the Falkland Islanders with violence
It is Argentina who ended UN negotiations, chose military force and lost. CFK needs to take responsibility for Argentina's misdeeds. It is incredible that Argentina refuses to take its claim to the UN International Court of Justice given its past abuses and still seeks to circumvent the UN
Systematic political and economic persecution of the Falkland Islanders is unlawful and this is precisely what Argentina is guilty of
They won't go to the ICJ, yet they moan, whine & lie at any other forum they can find.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0They won't try legally,
They won't try militarily,
What do they expect?
That we'll say “ok, here's our country, take it” ??? Fat chance.
They are becoming a pest(not quite a nuisance, yet!!).
Still & all, it's entertaining in it's way. Twerps.
Key decisions - don't make me laugh !
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0As far as I can tell, less than 3 dozen vessels are affected, and I'm sure that not all of those ever go to Montevideo or Brazillian ports, as some are pleasure craft. They haven't gone to Argentina for years anyway.
It'll take an Islander to actually figure out the possible impact, but they don't seem to be getting riled up about it. Rather the opposite.
And a tit-for-tat refusal to recognise Mercosur flagged vessels and Argentine passports sounds like the way to go. Particularly with the 30th anniversary of Argentina's cowardly invasion approaching.
Argentina likse to pronounce 'laws' to stop this, or licence that, but they don't obey the international ones. The UK is not in breach of any international laws over the Falklands. No 'live' Resolutions still exist.
The high moral ground makes a difference :-) or should that be with a halo
0:-)
Redhoyt so badly informed.Do you not know that these EU boats are useing the Malvinas flag as one of convenience like Liberia or do you imagine the rest of us are as ignorant.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0i hear some Malvinas representative says if we were Palestine the EU would be up in arms.Rogy baby go tell David he needs to be nicer when in Brussels.
When Chile bans flights in the next year the next thread will be reached.
I have asked on these pages, and been told that only 28 boats are registered with the Falklands Flag. I have no information to the contrary which is why I said, “As far as I can tell ..”
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps someone can enlighten me - or O'gaga ??
As for flights, the number from Britain is due to increase with the oil companies adding to the set I understand. What chance does Argentina have of getting Britain to agree to ban its flights I wonder :-)
There never can be and never will be any negotiation of the WILL of the people of the Falklands Islands OR the people of Gibraltar. The British have been known to give the choice to stay or to go to such places as Newfoundland and the will of the people was to join Canada. Newfoundlad has been a welfare province of Canada since and with the discovery and production of oil it has been trying to avoid coming off the gravy trainand now contributing to pay for the other welfare provinces like Quebec, who have and still do sponge off the rest of Canada. Bad move for Canada in the long run !! If Argentina would like a similar situation it must deal with the people of the Faulklands ...how much money will it take...who knows.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Less I would say facing the city in the future as South America isolates the Malvinas and David isolates the City from Europe.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0these pragmatic people however have an incredible ability to survive and in the end dont concern themselves too much with planters or paid hands.
well indeed redhoyt flights from London to a population of 2000 while trade is being lost in a continent of 400 million.Yes you are indeed a historian of the city.
There are already voices appearing in the city urgeing negotiations. Strengthen this Cristina the results wont be long coming
WTF cares what the Botox queen has to say about the Falklands there is nothing she or anyone else in Argentina can do about them, they won’t go to the ICJ because they would end up with crap on their faces and they won’t invade again because they know that they will get another good thrashing. So let her and her psychopaths whinge WTF cares.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot support Argentina's tactics to systematically persecute the Falkland Islanders to impose the Argentine Executive's will on the Falkland Islanders. It is morally and ethically wrong.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina must accept that Argentina ended negotiations through the UN Resolutions by its acts of war, violence and intimidation of the Falkland Islanders.
Argentina needs to recognize its negotiations outside of international court have failed and that Argentina's lawful option is to pursue its claim through the UN ICJ
Any reasonable person would take their claim to civil court when a dispute with a neighbor cannot be settled by their own direct negotiation between the parties concerned or by supported arbitration
The negotiations between Argentina and Great Britain have failed for good reasons and the fault for that failure lies with Argentina
Thus Argentina should take its sovereignty disputes to the UN International Court of Justice
Instead, Argentina seeks to circumvent the rule of international law by use of systematic political and economic persecution of the Falkland Islanders
It is the equivalent of an ordinary person inciting their friends to break the law and practicing vigilantism against a neighbor by carrying out extra legal punishment for alleged wrongdoings in their own private quarrel in direct contravention of existing court orders on the matter (i.e. UN Charter Articles 2, 73, 74 and Resolutions 1514 and 2065).
Shame on Argentina.
Will Redhoyt's greatgrand children being referring to this speech in their historical story of the Malvinas.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0A global cause huh? Give it a couple of years and she'll be claiming the citizens of a distant galaxy support her noble cause and that Jedi Knights will be arriving soon to sort out the problem.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are our natural resources, what is the silly bitch on about.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sad to read about the suicide though.
** 14
Dec 21st, 2011 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0this is a Redhoyt soft version comment ...!
I wonder what purpose CFK thinks will be achieved through such behaviour. She'd have to be daft to believe it will make any difference to the status of the Falklands so I can only assume it is for domestic nationalist consumption.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0'the Foreign Office has hit out at Argentina following the decision by a South American trading bloc to ban boats with a Falkland Islands flag from its ports, warning that Britain's “determination to protect” the overseas territory should not be underestimated.'
Dec 21st, 2011 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think if we're honest, this is the only comment needed, ignore all these indoctrinated minds. We have a duty to the Islanders, and i think we've made it clear that we will honour this agreement despite any number of foes .
Argentina respect the right of every british citizen and fakland island company can do as it wishes in UK, however Islas Malvinas and Argentina's territorial integrity are non negotiable. this reports point out something interesting wich happened in Iraq and now Libya, the theft of resources is the strongest point in this debate.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0#14 ilegal aliens in USA are persecuted and Gypsys in uk also, I don't see the british in Islas Malvinas Argentina any other way.
@21 Gypsies are persecuted cause many are crime families, those that are not, sometimes face certain racial abuse that is present in some people of any country, and i feel present in you as well. It is a totally different situation, as they have come over to a country with a full government and populance . Hence your argument is faulty.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0@12 ogara
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0”These pragmatic (and Proud) people however have an incredible ability to survive”.
This is the most accurate description You have ever given to the Falklanders and the fact that You have recognised that they will not be oppressed by any (argentine) Bullying countries is a huge step forward for you O'gara!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
@19 Spot on. The woman is an attention seeker who thinks playing the victim and wringing her hands is going to get her want she wants.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0That poor young man died and she has a fainting spell and has to have medical attention, making it all about her; her tragedy; her drama. Argentines should be very worried about such a psychologically 'delicate' person running the country.
But the truth is she can have as many tantrums as she likes, unleash her admitted uncontrollable temper and send her poodles out to spread lies. It will have absolutely no effect, save push her health even further to the edge. The Falkland Islands will remain as the islanders wish, for as long as they wish. There is absolutely nothing Argentina can do about it.
@24 Elaine
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here Here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well said!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
The UK Telegraph has this report of the Mercosur summit, not seen it anywhere else yet:
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0A senior Argentine official was found hanged in his hotel room in Montevideo during the summit meeting.
Ivan Heyn, 33, the undersecretary of trade, was found dead at the Radisson Hotel downtown.
He was found naked, nearly six hours after his death. He had hung himself with a belt.
Mrs Kirchner was informed about the death while she was attending a closed door meeting of the presidents and was so upset she was seen by her doctor.
The death forced organisers to cancel a photocall with the leaders.
Ah well, one gone, how many more to go?
Why would the Islanders be bothered? - they have all the money in the world now so they can hire big aeroplanes to fly them back to their real homes in Europa (Don't forget that all islanders are Europans) every week and they can hire Jamie Oliver to come down and cook them their fish and chips.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0And from next March they won't have any choice hehe.
@8 Redhoyt: Did you see an argentine passport?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think you never had in your hands before-
Says MERCOSUR- REPUBLICA ARGENTINA-
So If you refuse that passport, refuse ALL MERCOSUR PASSPORTS.
Mercosur: Close to 400 million people- potential customers for tourism in Malvinas-
And MAYBE Mercosur adopt same options for TURISTIC companies who want to go there stopping in Mercosur ports.
How do you see this? would be expensive one Malvinas tour from Southampton? How many days? How you promote this tour?
You make me laugh my b*lls-
Regards-
27 Dental floss.....
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where did your ancestors come from matey and what language do you speak a European one no less?
Given the majority of the Falkland islanders were born on the islands and have roots going back 6 generations (the same for most Argentines) they are as European as you.....
And anyway on the subject of LAN flights considering the only people who use them are the Argentine relatives of the fallen it would be a political own goal for CFK if she and Pinerea suspended them, it would be quite hilarious and political coup d'etat for the UK and Falklands Islands government when relatives of the fallen have to go through Brize Norton with all expenses paid for by the Argie govt.....
@28 If the islanders ban Argentine passports then it would only apply to passports with Mecursor - Repulica Argentina on them. It would not apply to Mercursor - Brazil, Mercursor - Paraguay or Mercursor - Uruguay. To say that it would have to apply to all is nonsense. Therefore your comment is a load of nonsense too.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“”Malvinas is not an Argentine cause, it’s a global cause because they are taking our fisheries and oil resources” ”'
Dec 21st, 2011 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shouldn't that read 'This is not a Falkland's cause, it’s a global cause because the RGs are trying to steal Falkland's fisheries and oil resources” ??
What is it about dagos and thieving??
Strange that Cananda has no irredentist claims on French colonial St Pierre and Miquelon! Canadians would laugh at the idea of invading St Pierre and Miquelon. I guess some countries are more enlightened, progressive, and peace-loving than others.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27
Dec 21st, 2011 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lmao, well said. Owned!
Until Argentina agree to appear before the ICJ then we aren't listening to her belligerent fascist comments. The various international organisations she mentions have no legitimacy or authority. It is time that the UK took a big diplomatic initiative in South America. Mercosur backing for illegal claims is not without consequences. Time for gun boat diplomacy.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite Right Roady - let's refuse ALL Mercosur passports !
Dec 21st, 2011 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
@21 What would Argentina know about respect?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, on one level, Kirchner is right. This is a shameful attempt at grabbing natural resources. The shameful attempt by Argentina to grab what belongs to the Falkland Islands.
Still, only a short period of research can clearly the way things really are.
Argentina is a rogue state. Argentina is a fascist state. Argentina is a criminal state. Argentina and Argentines are enemies of humanity. Any nation is entitled to take any action it chooses against Argentina and Argentines for their many criminal acts, including piracy and obstruction of trade, as well as interfering with the legal rights of proper people. “Proper people” are defined as those who are not Argentine.
I'm sure CFK believes she is very big at the moment. I wonder how she will feel when he head is, literally, on the block?
@36 hahaha
Dec 21st, 2011 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2011/12/21/comment-the-thuggery-of-argentina-s-falklands-claim
Dec 21st, 2011 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0interesting comment,
we all know that their is nothing they can do, but the british are much better than the riff raff the argie bloggers on here,
all the islanders have to do, is change from falklands registered, to UK registered, then the bann, falls flat on its face, does it not,
#21 ilegal aliens in USA are persecuted and Gypsys in uk also, I don't see the british in Islas Malvinas Argentina any other way.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PH. That's not justified, fair or reasonable. Argentina blame the present day Falkland Islanders for the establishment of the Falkland Islands as British Colony by past British governments. Acts long in the past which the present day population had nothing to do with. Now Argentina seek retribution on this vulnerable ethnic minority for the past; that is morally and ethically wrong because they were not the deeds of the present day Falkland Islanders. They cannot be held responsible for what they did not do
All the Falkland Islanders are doing is living their lives in the place they live causing no harm to anyone
The present day Falkland Islanders have the same right to democratically chose their future of their status beyond being a British Colony as Argentines had the right to decide their future beyond being a Spanish Colony.
The Falkland Islanders rights are recognized in its founding treaty Article 73 and also expressly in resolution 1514(XV) , 2065(XX) and the Falkland Islands inclusion in the Decolonization Committee's list of non-self-governing-territories. Argentina voted for resolution 1514(XV) and the Falkland Islands inclusion in the list of non-self-governing territories and Argentina is a UN Treaty signatory
So in law and in deed, Argentina agrees the Falkland Islanders right to self-determination and to develop themselves and make use of their natural resource and the UN Treaty requires the self-determination and development of the Falkland Islanders
The fact that Argentine nationalists and nationalist populist politicians disagree is irrelevant. You may call the Falkland Islanders nasty names but it has no meaning other than to demonstrate your own nasty bigotry
@36
Dec 21st, 2011 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol, so how hardcore!! Haha!
@37 That would be your version of an “intelligent” comment, would it?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's try this
A - asocial
R - recidivist
G - gonorrhea-ridden
E - emetic
N - nihilst
T - timorous
I - ignorant
N - narcissist
E - extinct
OR
A - ass*ole(s)
Know something, toe-rag? I really want to see you die, screaming in agony.
Now that's funny!
I just noticed the photograph - is CFK still only wearing black because of that dead bloke?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Botox Evita needs something else to steal. She has fleeced the farmers and needs more dinero to keep her Ponzi scheme going. Argentina are you ready for a massive devaulation and further confiscation of your assets? We won't cry for Argentina, you voted for this
Dec 21st, 2011 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is time to wipe the Argentine military and their tin pot dicktaorship off the map, we need to bomb them into sand!
Dec 21st, 2011 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sink all their ships.
Launch per-emptive strikes on all their airports.
This is an act of war and they must be made to pay.
Oh dear - the standard of the native English speaking contributions has just plummeted.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@44
Dec 21st, 2011 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, now go back and take your meds.
It's taken 30 years to get South American nations to agree to block roughly 30 boats from their ports. I wonder what magnificent progress they will have made by 2041?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#44
Dec 21st, 2011 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lmao. And who exactly is going to do that? Last I heard the UK was broke. Saw it on the news that it had to sell or decomission most of its ships.
@48 arrrhh, but as many before you have done, you are underestimating the individual worth of any man or woman in the British military. We alsways seem to do better outnumbered anyway, gives our troops a boost :)
Dec 21st, 2011 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever the rights and wrongs you have to admit Cristina is one ugly old bint.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0welcome to chav central.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mon Dieu ! if this is an example of the British education system it is not surprising you keep running your submarines and ships aground....you can't read your own language.
Can a supporter of Argentine sovereignity in the Falklands please answer me this - why when the people of the Falklands clearly want to be British do you believe that you have a right to the islands? Surely the principle of the self-determination of the Islanders must be the way to judge who controls the islands?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@51 dreyfoss Doesn't really have much relevance to the matter at hand does it ?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Out of curiosity when did we run our ships and subs aground ?
Its great to see all the planters and peripheral collaterals so upset.They are finding it so hard to accept the new global realities.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahh Elaine 'The woman is an attention seeker who thinks playing the victim and wringing her hands will get her what she wants,'
AHH COME ON YOUVE BEEN LOOKING IN THE MIRROR AGAIN
@53 One of the new submarines ran aground during tests, it is fixed and as far as I know seaworthy now. Its pretty much why they have tests
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 O gara (#) Dec 21st, 2011
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ More like the citys membership of the security council will soon be numbered.City,England,Europe ever more irrelevant.”
If that ever happens imagine how insignificant Argentina will be by then.
@ O garaCareful there son, you dont understand what it means to get in the way of British defiance, and of course thats how we are going to be. Are we going to let an angry old lady try to take OUR islands, after around 250 of our soldiers were killed defending it from another crazy leaders, desperate attempt to seize it ?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, we're not. And with any luck the call for a nuclear sub to be sent down to ward you away will do the trick . Its not reality, not while any one of us are still standing......
@55 And thanks , i hadn't heard of such an occurrence, and it was played up loads by number 52.
24 ElaineB, 54% remember?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I heard that sheep jumped out the flag and joined their brothers in the mainland to seek freedom from British colonial rule.
Kelpers are beginning to follow his example:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13780144
@ 52
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Why when the people of the Falklands clearly want to be British do you believe that you have a right to the islands? Surely the principle of the self-determination of the Islanders must be the way to judge who controls the islands?”
Very simple:
If someone breaks into your house and kicks you out... would you “respect” his “right to determine his own future” inse your house? Or “his” house“? Would it be ”his“ house? Would he have ”rights” to stay in your house?
Argentinian rights over the islands are prior the british occupation.
54 O gara (#) Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:18 pm
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its great to see all the planters and peripheral collaterals so upset.They are finding it so hard to accept the new global realities.
Ahh Elaine 'The woman is an attention seeker who thinks playing the victim and wringing her hands will get her what she wants,'
AHH COME ON YOUVE BEEN LOOKING IN THE MIRROR AGAIN
aaawwwww- you've found your voice again....not more personal attacks by saint ogara? or whatever other names you go by on the site.
@59 As far as I am aware the vast majority of the Argentine population are not the original inhabitants. Does that mean that Argentines have no rights to vote in that country?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54 LOL! Of all the comments here you just had to comment on mine. Awwww. So smitten. Listen. luv, you have not a chance with me so go and pull someone else's pigtails. : )
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Warmonger Brits there is something that they hate and there is nothing they can do, getting kicked in the rear and out od South America without firing a single shot.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get used to it.
“Nuclear submarine should be sent to Falklands to show British anger at boat ban decision”
“Roger Spink, president of the Falklands Chamber of Commerce, said they were a small community and felt increasingly under blockade”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/8970880/Nuclear-submarine-should-be-sent-to-Falklands-to-show-British-anger-at-boat-ban-decision.html
57 thor baby where i come from we know all about the English and their planters.We know only too well that the plebs matter not a whit its when you make the city pay that they sit down and talk.They couldnt give a monkeys ass about the collateral damage of 250 peripherals except for propaganda purposes.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You also have to be persistent and ruthless which Argentina needs to so.
60 I am afraid livin i just cant comprehend that childish babble could you try to be at least a tiny bit coherent.
62 Honey I wouldnt go near your pig tails or Concha for all the tea in China,little stupid Saxon gals dont do it for me
The UK still has the 4th largest navy in the world and a commonwealth consisting of almost a third of the worlds population.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In 1982 Argentina just fought Britain but it is worth remembering that New Zealand lend us warships and was prepared to assist militarily, so was Australia and Canada. While the US not only supplied us with bombs and missiles, but intelligence, and offered us an Aircraft Carrier and additional US Navy assets if we needed them.
You brainless fascistic loons in Argentina we're too busy killing your own people to realise that Britain had the world on her side, you had no one. Even Italy didn't want to know you and went along with the ECC declaration on the invasion as being illegal.
The next war will occur when Argentina fires on British warships and it will end with British Marines removing your fascistic government. Just like Iraq, the first time around was just a warning, the second time will be full on! Your military will be annihilated, it is smaller than the London Police Force.
65, Just like Iraq?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know that you lost that war, right?
@62 According to my Argentine girl friends, Argentine men don't do it for them; lack of adequate equipment. One described them thus, “Imagine a cork; imagine the disappointment”. I thought it a little harsh myself and would have dismissed it if I hadn't heard it so many times from various sources. : ) Just sayin'.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's very simple.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina can't do anything via the ICJ as they will lose.
The population on the islands that has been there for generations want to remain British.
To get the Islands back you have to fight (and beat us) militarily, (you can't) so in the meantime you'll bitch and whine and make puny embargoes...
Why not focus on your own country with your own history of massacring your own population and stop making scapegoats for your endless torrent of fail.
67 ElaineB, You must be mad or British men don't do it for you, are you answering your own messages? Just sayin' :-)))
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64 O gara Are you aware of how physically retarded you sound ? I dont even know the point of your argument, so im just going to say, if we can contend with catholic Spain, revolutionary France and Nazi Germany, then you can bet that we can sure as hell contend with a bunch of ex-Spanish colonists that want to play dirty. And if your country men are anything like you, i think a war would be a damn shot easier than i expected,.........
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos shes always looking in mirrors.Oh we know all about your Argentine girl friends who cant get books in Buenos Aires.Maybe they werent these rare philosophical tomes after all but a bit of erotica.I bet you tried to find a man on CORRIENTES didnt you?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your dreams at this stage are sad more than anything else.
68 As i said on another thread Little man you are the experts in genocide you even invented it so dont throw stones when you live in a glass house
CFK says .... they are taking our fish - oil resources......
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i don't agree with CFK..
BECOUSE
i don't believe there are any oil-gas reserves around Malvinas
and, their rare fishs are not already delicious ,have no market value..!
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fish expert Geo.
@71 O gara wipe your mouth out son, how dare you call our soldiers 'peripherals' . And if your referring to concentration camps, then get your facts straight . Britain did not invent the concentration camp. Spain did in the Cuban war. Also our version of concentration camps were not the same as Hitlers. The loss of life in the British camps, were due to poor administration , low supplies and neglect. Im not saying its right, but im sayin it wasnt intentional , npr was it genocide .
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@69 LOL! Just replying to my pet cyber stalker. Sweet little thing. : )
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL O gara cry me a f*king river ; )
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't change the fact that there's N O T H I N G
I repeat N O T H I N G
you can do about it.
History is strewn with the remnants of idiots who underestimated British resolve.
Amen to that LOL
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OMG These Brutish people are so pissed today, I thought there wasn't anything that we can do...they say.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get used to it and take to the ICJ if you wish.
Also Kirchner looks like someone has reanimated a corpse half way through the embalming process, her enormous gob is a rubberised monument to insecure vanity.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I mean that in the nicest possible way.
@77 we're just concerned that you can squander away human rights like this......We're not angry just clarifying our stance on the situation.....
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@77
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My point is that the ICJ is the one thing you can't because you'd lose.
That's why you don't.
Simple : )
i saw fist time in my life that the brits are on deep panic ....!!
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this could be the starting of the end for brits...
71 I wont wipe my mouth little boy facts are facts.The ones who fights the citys wars are poor people from peripheral areas of the country or children of planters as in the Malvinas.Your country has caused numerous ethnic cleansing cases in its savage history of abuse against native peoples all over the World.You didnt need concentration camps you just slaughtered them on the spot.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pobrecita always the victim in her imagination now being stalked lol you really are pathetic
ElaineB
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are awful, teasing the poor old Irish Wannabe O gaga with all the talk of cork: he thinks you are talking about Ireland.
Still, carry on the good work! :o)
@ O gara, BAWWW : * (
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Geo, yes we're really panicking, the might of the Argentine military is... terrifying (lol).
A single SSN could easily deal with your “entire” Navy.
Christy where have you been all day ????????
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 084 You have brought English to a new level dear boy.Can we be of help.I know you have communication and anger control problems.Really you should come to Buenos Aires there are many good doctors here,i understand nobody can afford them up north any more
@ 85
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According to the last World Health Organisation the UK ranks 18th in terms quality of coverage....
....Argentina came in 75th
But thanks for the invite ; )
There can't be that many good doctors in BA. Look at the state of your presidente Cristina.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When plastic surgery borders on taxidermy that's what you get...
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0** 84 Greed Britain
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as you know the military operations are very expensive ..
don't forget that the outlays of Iraq/Afghanistan operations will be
paid by you all -people not by elite class....
don't expect any hot war at south atlantic
BUT
my intelligence says that this fishing boats embargo is just
first step......next ones are coming...
be realistic please
the demode colonialism can't drive you to anywhere.....
if you can't find any new ideologies then you'll be wiped up from the world...this is the order of nature not my order...........!!
81 geo ”i saw fist time in my life that the brits are on deep panic ....!!
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know :-)))
Lol
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can embargo anything you want, oil can be traded anywhere on earth (transport costs are CHEAP), cut off all supplies if you want, it will just make the islanders hate you and increase British resolve.
Again, you don't seem to understand that the British do not respond well to threats, even if those threats are 1000x worse than those posed by Argentina (yes I'm referring to your friends the Nazis).
Military outlays are expensive as you say, luckily an SSN can patrol anywhere we want it to, one or two is more than enough for your navy, a few jets (out of several hundred) more than enough to deal with your air force.
There's nothing you can do.
91 Chris, Suuuure...
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Dumb British Submarine Stuck In Mud”
http://wonkette.com/427479/dumb-british-submarine-stuck-in-mud
86 What nineteenth century stats book did you pick that up in.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All these rioters told us that the collapse of the health service was one of the big problems along with fuel poverty.
poor old GB he imagines the empire as in the days of youre sailing the seven seas they way the deficit is going they soon wont have enough fuel to reach Calais
** 91 Greed Britain
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0please keep calm...
please try to think logical...
don't push the Britain to any new frustrated adventure...
don't sweep Britain into new insolvencies ,already it is broke....
no need any irritations for these worthless islands....
:-))))
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 082 O gara LOL did i touch a nerve old boy ?! The people who fight the wars are from all different backgrounds, i dont think they'll take kindly to being called poor....
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Am i right in believing that your country is a country that was based in a region that was owned by another populance, that was destroyed and forced to move on ? am i also right in believing that still in south america natives are being killed an extorted ? By jove old boy, i think i am right !
Also grab a history book. The empire did eveil yes, but nothing that wasnt accustomed at the time. I am not condoning it, but it was what happened at the time, and wasnt always considered wrong Also you cant dismiss the good the empire did . It was the leading nation and force behind the destruction of black slavery ? Britain helped many third world countries become 2nd world, upgrading education, infrastructure and health care . In fact at the time of its deconstruction , many countries wanted to remain in British power, including Jamaica , where some still believe they were better under our rule. Britain gave birth to the first true democracy and have lead the way throughout history. Remember much of the empire was conquered not through military might , but through trade and diplomacy. Not our fault that we were smarter than some nations. Cant have been all that bad ey old chum ?
I think someone needs to pick up a history book once in a while and read some facts.
What have Argentina done ? What have they accomplished ? Anything ?
Lol the rioters had nothing to do with the NHS, health spending is one thing that isn't only exempt from cuts but is increasing in budget : )
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At least we're not broke like Ireland with a sh1t credit rating begging Germany to bail us out ; )
** 97 Greed Britain
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Foreign Debts per person
Ireland ... £ 390.650
UK ... £ 117.580
Italy ... £ 32.875
Spain ... £ 41.366
Portugal ... £ 38.080
Greece ... £ 38.073
France ... £ 66.508
Germany ... £ 50.659
Thank you for hitting us with a debt report geo , wasnt asked for but appreciated much the same.....
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yawn,
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the case of the UK It's private sector debt, London is the biggest banking centre on earth...
UK borrowing costs are around 2% (cheap) because a) we never default and b) we cut when needed to avoid having to do an “Argentina”.
The EUROzone is F**KED, not us.
Anyway, none of this is relevant to the Falklands, they are going to remain the property of the Falkland islanders and there is nothing you can do to change that short of military force.
Household indeptedness as percentage of disposable income
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK ... 170 %
France ... 106 %
Germany ... 98 %
Italy ... 88 %
USA ... 127 %
@101 this boy is just full of facts a figures, no wonder he gets slightly confused about the Falklands islands :') its not his fault :D
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes because most UK households have a mortgage (UK is not a renting nation), this is sustainable.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mortgages debts are ...132% of UK household's disposable income...
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 064 O gara (#) Dec 21st, 2011 - 05:53 pm
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 060 I am afraid livin i just cant comprehend that childish babble could you try to be at least a tiny bit coherent.
You can't comprehend this--
aaawwwww- you've found your voice again....not more personal attacks by saint ogara? or whatever other names you go by on the site.
let me explain to the weak minded. You fail (or refuse) to answer a direct question. Go AWOL for a while so you don't have to answer anything. Then when you do appear it is using your “other” account on mercosur....busted!
Then you decide a personal attack is the way to go. yet you chastise others for doing just that. Hypocrite!
Is that clear enough for you. I understand English is not your first language so we give you leeway but this is very basic. if you don't understand things in English then you really shouldn't be commenting that fact. Just learn some more English.
Your post's are increasing difficult to comprehend. If I didn't know better I'd say you were drunk but now I know your just plain stupid. But keep up the good work. With You helping Argentina's case I'm sure things will speed up tremendously.
Mortgages debts are ...132% of UK household's disposable income...
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look up what disposable income means and you'll understand ; )
170% of debt is sustainable.Osborne is so desperate to get enough cuts in hes joining all in the Euro on its way to ruin.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for London being bigger than New York well says it all really about this Caballeros rants
The reality is and the Planters should take note negotiations are about three years away.If Argentina continues on this policy, is firm and continues to grow over these 36 months the City will soon be in touch.
England is on its knees and if it pisses of Brasil it would really be terrific
@ you complete an utter fool. He didn't say it was bigger in SIZE, he said it was the FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. New york is either second largest or third. Please before making these completely blind statements, read up on things to save yourself the embarrassment .
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0105 livin you are clearly someone in need of help.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could you try to ask this question you have written a hundred words of complete incoherent nonsense.
You say you are livin in Argentina Tierra de Fuego I assume its the right kind of place for you.
108 Poor old Thor the kiking hero who imagines himself defending the empire.
London lost that title to New York over 50 years ago whatever little Englanders like you imagine and soon it will also be behind Hong Kong
The IRA came to the negotiating table because they were losing influence in NI, it made sense for the UK to negotiate because demographics alone indicate that republicans would never have a majority in the assembly.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And who “won”, last time I checked NI is about as secure a territory of the Kingdom as England is ; )
As for brazil, like all hyperinflated developing economies the bubble will soon burst.
As an exporting economy (though you're too much of an idiot to realise this) Brazil is FAR more vulnerable to a trade/diplomatic war than a major importer is.
As I said, there is NOTHING you can do, for someone who glorifies the IRA one might have thought you'd have some sympathy for the occupants of an island to determine their own status.
You are pathetic, like most of your countrymen.
GB Irishmen understand the Citys planter policy to perfection which is why this self determination red herring cuts no ice.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are so lacking in knowledge you dont know that that Brasil and indeed Argentina are not huge exporters but depend on the internal market more.This is imo one of their weaknesses but of course someone as pathetic as you are incapable of understanding simple things like this.
As for who won well i have to say its nice to see Martin Mcguiness as deputy first minister as old Lady Thatcher moves along.They were very close you know
Errrr, I thought FI flagged vessels were banned from Uruguay ports. Clearly not this one:
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=740352000
#110 Great Britain
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You obviously know nothing about the Brazilian economy. There is no housing bubble and no banks are broken. 70% of Brazilian own their homes. Brazilian banks are better capitalized than their U.S. counterparts and healthier as a result of banking reform in the 1990s
Brazil's growth is due to its INTERNAL market. Brazil is not a major exporter, in fact, the total import and export in Brazil is relatively small. Brazil is largely a self-sufficient economy with a vast hinterland of eager middle-class consumers.
P.S. Brazil just surpassed the UK as the world's 6th largest economy this week.
I remember another dumb argentine sub stuck in the mud the santa fe except she was sunk by a helicopter and Royal Marine fire. An astute nuke sub can take out you entire navy.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0109 O gara (#)
Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you have too much time on your hands adding up my words. Are you still having a problem with English? Nice to see you found your voice though....squeek squeek little mouse.
109 O gara (#) Ahahaha thats the joke, New York didnt :D search it up, London is still leading :D I dont imagine myself defending an empire, i want to defend the Islanders . Mate why dont you try coming back at all the other comments ive destroyed you on ? then i will answer you :D
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Re: Exports
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No I understand the situation perfectly thank you, and is one reason that I feel they are hyperinflated, exports as a percentage of GDP is artificially LOW compared to sustainable economic growth, i.e. they are in an investment BUBBLE (check graphs since 2000). Like the PRC damage to exports impact growth to a far greater extent than a 1:1 ratio.
A house of cards, see what happens in the next year or two and tell me I was wrong.
116 THOR94 (#)
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He wont come back. I noticed this trait a while ago. He only comments when he thinks of a personal attack or he'll use some answer that includes perfidious Albion is finished blah blah blah
** 108 THOR
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0World Stock Markets' as percentage of Market Capitalization
USA :.. 28 %
China :..8 %
Japan :.. 7 %
UK :.. 6 %
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Stock Volumes ...June/2011
NYSE ... 19813 billons US $
Hong Kong S.E. ... 4496 billons US $
Tokyo S.E... 3787 billions US $
Shenzen S.E... 3611 billions US $
London S.E... 2741 billions US $
Deutche Bourse... 1650 billions US $
Korea S.E ... 1610 billons US $
Marcos,I don't know if it was a keyboard error but the idea of naming the paranoid psychotics Brutish was a brilliant idea.I will henceforth adopt it
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Previous posts have highlighted the fact that parapsyc Brutish established in south Africa camps which they called concentration camps.They were not like hitler's extermination camps but they were very similar in purpose to his concentration camps.Of course,as usual,the Brutish will make long historical monologues in defence of their aims and how things went wrong with these camps.But they still occupy the Malvinas and colonise other nations and their territories.They have 89years to withdraw and improve their global image.Their own military recognise that their war talk is not getting results and the support of Argentina's case is growing.The Brutish cannot see over the horizon and don't even try.
Geo, stock market capitalisation is irrelevant (you need to look up what it actually means), what you need to look at is total trading volumes etc.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_centre#Global_Financial_Centres_Index
@ 119 geo more facts :D you should really get some rest, i bet all those numbers are hurting your skull ? ;)
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@118 livin' in argentina I know, he makes arguments, that you destroy and then he makes more arguments :D
120 Yuleno, No keyboard error :-)
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0English/Brutish talking about fighting another war in Malvinas. Are they going to charter British Airways to take them there?.
** 121 Greed Britain
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well done ...keep on watching their panaromic pictures
on secondary school students level Wikipedia...
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** 122 THOR
numbers are dissappointed for you ? ...
BUT
unfortunately they are real/true.
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my advice to you .. don't waste your time at the front of Latin America
doors here ...be bold ,go and participate to next “” occupy City“” protests..
Geo, those figures are a compilation of the major studies in terms of trading volumes.. Forbes is a pretty reputable source as is the study by mastercard..
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem a bit stupid, as with your “disposable income” comment..
85 Gaga....
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Really you should come to Buenos Aires there are many good doctors here,i understand nobody can afford them up north any more.”
Thanks for proving you are not Irishman, but a Daygo blogger pretending to be one :) ......Idiot!
Cristina also said in her statement that argentina is not asking the u. k. to recognize that the malvinas are argentine, we are just asking it to dialogue with us and find a solution, these words destroy the wrong thought that many of you have about the posture of my country, like said in planty of oportunities as long as the you insist on rejecting to resume the negotiations, it's obvious that we are going to have more and more problems, unfortunatelly i wasn't wrong.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Respecting the aniversary of yesterday, ten years ego, i was 20 years old, i had a very precarious job, and i didnt have any social safe, beside, i lost it a few days after dicember 20. Since that moment planty of things changed in my life and in the country, i got a job in 2004 which i have never liked, but unless i could do many things thank to it, beside i have all the social benefices, on the other hand, in a few monthes i'm going to start a new life, and i'm sure it's going to be great, anyway yeasterday i was very said for ivan hein's death, he was a very good economist who supported strongly the economic model of the government like me, whereever he is i'll miss him.
Thor what planet do u live on NEW YORK IS THE BIGGEST.little Gb tells us capitalization doesnt matter.Well adam smith has risen from his grave to hear this new revolutionery theory.Thanks geo for attempting to educate these dinosaurs still living in days of empire..Andthen the little wel collaborator arrives whose brain is so small he cant comprehend an Irishman LIVIN IN ARGENTINA still here dude waiting for one coherent sentence.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0128 O gara (#) A world that agrees with my statement, a world that i got my facts from, not a world that is in my mind, like you, where if i think of it it must be true, 'that than which nothing greater can be deceived' ey ? You sir are ignorant of the facts. London is considered by most the financial capital of the world. do your self a favour and google it, and then take a moment or two to console yourself, because you realise how idiotic you've been.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0124 geo (#) Not at all, i have known for a while that our figures arnt to good, isn't the end of the world and isn't the end of the UK. Didn't Argentina go for a world of pain and have to default ? and are they finished ? Maybe recession and debt isn't the end of the world.
,It happens to be a fact, that the UK government wishes to avoid conflict if possible.
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0And Argentina will come to regret she ever heard of the Falklands,
The fact is, you can only talk so long,
Then action will inevitably take place,
Argentina is slowly stopping talking, as a cover, and slowly but surely pressuring others into action,
[Action] that will have repercussions ]
Even you must see that,
We are sliding to a conflict, that will [May] and can cost the lives of thousands,
And it will be the south Americans themselves, unwittingly and blindly doing Argentina’s, bidding, that may well start it,
Sooner or later, Britain must either
1, give up the Falklands, and hand it to you on a plate
And live with the shame
Or
2, retaliate to stop you guys encroaching any more on British interest,
Not fighting talk, just common sense,
You just keep on pushing, and pushing, with no regard to the inevitable consequences
Just an opinion . .
“Thor what planet do u live on NEW YORK IS THE BIGGEST.little Gb tells us capitalization doesnt matter.”
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Idiot:
A financial centre is a hub that facilitates global trading, the capitalisation figures refer to the VALUE of the UK's stock exchanges, that is, stock listings for UK companies. So it should only take a few irishmen to figure out that OBVIOUSLY the NY and Tokyo indexes will have a higher capitalisation.
BUT IN TERMS OF GLOBAL TRADING VOLUMES AND SHARE OF THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL MARKET LONDON IS THE WORLD's LARGEST FINANCIAL CENTRE.
At least, it is according to Forbes, the Worldwide Centres of Commerce Index, the Global Financial Centres Index, and most other indices that rank financial centres on trading volume and global share:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_centre
You are a pig-ignorant cretin.
More good news for the English.
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thursday 22 December 2011
“Britain's most senior civil servant Sir Gus O’Donnell has publicly questioned whether the United Kingdom will still exist in a few years’ time”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8971787/Sir-Gus-ODonnell-The-UK-faces-break-up.html
132 Marcos Alejandro
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0very silly,
@ 133 Gus O'Donnell is a Sir, don't call him silly.
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0we warned NOAH , if he took you two on board, their would be trouble down the line,
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0we stand absolved ?
@96Thor 94....YOU need to pick up a history book OLD CHAP!! You know your English history, but you die there!
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Expand yourself buddy, expand...
@ 136 expand like elastane?
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems to be a bit of unrest in the ranks.
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Happy summer solstice everyone. And of course Merry Christmas.
Falklands still British, l see. Excellent,(sorry for using your line, Red!).
Merry Christmas to you too, la Princessa.
Even though you are talking out of your arse when you say that we are “grabbing”your resources. They are OUR resources & we will do what we like with them.
128.....Gaga
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0You told us when you first blessed this blog with your angelic presence....That you lived in Dublin...Nice one....Here is a question for you, When did you start living in Buenos Aires?
The other half of why I think your a lying Daygo....You don't put a space after your full stops, which ones assessment implies someone trying to deliberately mask their sentence construction to avoid recognition.....You also don't rise like a trout to bait to bog trotter comments or implications that all Micks are terrorists, which all true Irishmen would rise to with capital letters and and 4 letter words.....
Ergo O'Gara is a sock puppet account created by one of the lunatic Argie bloggers here....Due to the above intelligence displayed, possibly Think....If Thunk replies to this within the hour...he has proved my point.
113 Limongi
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Brazil's growth is due to its INTERNAL market. Brazil is not a major exporter, in fact, the total import and export in Brazil is relatively small. Brazil is largely a self-sufficient economy with a vast hinterland of eager middle-class consumers.”
If your claim is true then Brasil is of no use to the rest of the world: it neither exports or imports.
This is nonsense but I just cannot be bothered to look the real figures up.
@136 Alegianna (#) Yes i know much about British history :) But i when have i given you evidence to the fact i dont know any other history ? I have read many books dear boy, about many regions and know much history. So your comment is pretty pointless :D i know you may stuggle with the concept that someone may know more than one topic, but it is possible you may get there one day dear boy ! :D Besides knowing much about British history is knowing much about many histories, as British have been involved in making history worldwide, as you would have known, if you decided to read a bit more :D If your going to try and come at me, your going to have to do a damn shot better than that :')
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent, the discourse of Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner. All Argentine and Latin are very pleased with his speech and the implementation of continental solidarity with facts.
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#140 Chris R
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According to a U.S. Congressional Report on Brazil:
“Brazil has a modern, diversified economy, with services accounting for 53% of GDP, followed by industry and manufacturing at 37%, and agriculture at 9%. Brazil is actually a small trader, with total trade accounting for only 26% of GDP in 2004.” (http://www.nationalaglawcenter.org/assets/crs/RL33258.pdf)
“If your claim is true then Brasil is of no use to the rest of the world: it neither exports or imports.”
I could care less about Brazil's “use” to the rest of the world. What I care about is that while the world is facing a severe recession, Brazil will grow 5% next year. The fact is that we are currently the world's 6th largest economy, will be the 5th by 2014 and 4th by 2025, according to the IMF.
@143
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0limongo, Brazil is not the only economy that is 6th in the world rankings as Brazil is only joint 6th and 3-4 other nations are joint 7th. So no Brazil has not overtaken the UK, plus you also have the unexpected growth in the third quarter here in the UK and the reduction in our deficit to take into account, where as such figures were not known until this week. So it will be safe to say, Brazil probably has not yet quite got 6th place and are likely still only just in joint 7th. Plus the UK economy is set to overtake France soon too.
Heres a link reference the recent World Bank Report - Funnily enough it is the only article i could find that was relevent as no other new site of website has actually reported it as actually happening, perhaps you could share the source of your information if it is different to my source i have linked to - http://investinbrazil.biz/news/brazil-sixth-world-economy-says-world-bank-12d5
Also the report was based on the use of purchase through local currency instead of by simple conversion of local currency to the dollar. which would also explain the difference in Brazils improvement in the rankings.
Plus our economy is alot more stable and not open to as serious economic threat as you would like to believe, where as Brazil's is, with it close ties to argentina, and we all know argentina's economy is currently on unsteady and showing signs that it's about to burst and collaspe in on itself.
143 Limongi
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasil is not the Worlds' 6th largest economy if all the wealth is kept within its' borders. Do you not see the reasoning here?
Now you say that 26% of trade is exported. This is not nothing, it is more than a 1/4 of your trade!
144 Teaboy2 (above) puts it into more detail and perspective for you.
please read my this comment carefully ...
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasil is the World's (5th) big Economy behind USA,China,Japan,Germany.....
Brasil has calculated ( FORMAL) ~ 2.2 trillions US $ Economy
BUT
Brasil has non calculable (INFORMAL) ~ 500 billon US $ Economy
what does it mean ?
Brasil has ~ 2.7 trillions US $ Economy
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Brasil has always *Internal Demand* dominant Economy
BUT
it is not true in everytime
BECOUSE
this Economy had fluctuated in the years of 2003 and 2009
by *External Demand* dominance........!!
obrigado
NOW WE KNOW!
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fiscal surplus drops 87.1%
The fiscal surplus reached 425.9 million pesos in November compared to the same month last year, the (Argentine) government reported.
The primary budget surplus dropped 87.1 percent to 425.9 million pesos. In November 2010, the surplus had reached 3.307 billion pesos.
Well, who would have thought that with all the Argies stating how good the economy was and denying that we were correct in saying that old Turkey Neck herself (CFK) was panicking about the lack of money.
AND, it must be worse than this, these are the govt. OWN figures. But we know how truthful they are don't we?
AND, if you take inflation into account at 25%..... :o)
GREAT JOY FOR THE FESTIVE SEASON!
It couldn't happen to a nicer country (NOT).
..budgetary expenditures are soaring when the general election
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0times at almost all countries....very normal/unfortunately....
Clarinette newspaper says the inflation rate 25%
BUT
it is not true in reality.....
148 geo
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your calculations are a bit wrong,
Allow me,
Brazil is growing [we are not]
Brazil is getting richer [we are not]
Brazil has not big debts [we have]
Brazils growth is more than 5%, [ours is about zero]
The point im making is this,
If Brazil is doing all these great things, and can only manage 5th place,
And the UK economy is zero, [and we are fighting 5th place,
Think were we would be when we start to grow again,
For a country that has flatlinned, we ain doing to bad,
For a country that is zooming upwards, you aren’t doing that good.
What say you, GEO,
And no dragons?
Just a simple thought.
.
Well, geo. Answer the man. l, too, would like to know.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK says: “Malvinas is a global cause”
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree the issue is global because the choice for the world is either upholding lawful UN Treaty obligations to the Falkland Islanders or condoning their extra-legal colonial annexation
Global Cause.heheheh No other countries have got the slightest interest in our dispute..Even her so called allies find ways to get round the port blockade..It will be buisness as usual
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0** 149 / “” 150
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you didn't like the numbers
BUT
they are true.
what a disappointment ....!!
I see Lady O'Gaga is very reluctant to tell us when he/she/daygo moved to Buenos Aires, possibly because the mask is finally slipping ho ho ho :)
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0153 geo you did not answer the question,
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so is it geo & dragon
or geo i forgotti
** 155 brit
Dec 24th, 2011 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasil is a vast country who have vast natural resources ,have more population,have no any strategical enemies........so on..
the result is very normal.......!!
The “malvinas” fiction-fixation is indeed a global issue because it involves grabbing other peoples territories. Nothing more, nothing less.
Dec 24th, 2011 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
All the world , includes some english against the Cameron stupid policy and falklanders primitive mind!
Dec 24th, 2011 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.infobae.com/notas/623628-The-Guardian-apoya-el-dialogo-que-pide-Argentina-por-la-soberania-de-Malvinas.html
#157 You totally correct
Dec 24th, 2011 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0global issue because it involves grabbing other peoples territories. Nothing more, nothing less.
Now will you support the global cause of returning the Malvinas to argentine sovreignity
Now will you support the global cause of returning the Malvinas to argentine sovreignity
Dec 24th, 2011 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the falklands to remain british,
that sounds ok.
we can let the facts speak for themselves.
Dec 24th, 2011 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3SU9qUAkSg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxjOeS8vhUs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSMeWe9EUoI&feature=BFa&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&lf=mh_lolz
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjrBzIv7zis&feature=BFa&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&lf=mh_lolz
www.video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8883910961351786332#
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4yiJkyLQqI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiYKIDi4gqs&feature=BFa&list=PLDD1D761ACD4581AB&lf=mh_lolz
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTP8ZIXnoMM
We can let the facts speak for themselves
Dec 24th, 2011 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We already know the facts, and we don’t need doctored video to know it.
Theirs is only two facts on this very important day, we all need to know about,
1, its Christmas eve,
2, the Falklands are still British,
[but if you force me to make a third, then so be it ][]
3, you lost.
Merry British Christmas .
.
CFK says that the Falklands are a global cause......... in her world of course but nowhere else.
Dec 25th, 2011 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Contributed
Hey folks Pratt-Junta's back!
Dec 25th, 2011 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hasn't said anything though, just a load of links (or bollox as usual)
128 O gara (#
Dec 26th, 2011 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes you are. But like I said many times before. You don't answer anything. Just go quite for a while and then chirp in hoping no one will notice. Is that plain enough for you or do i need to type really slowly for you?
I found you amusing before but that has worn off. You are quite boring. Your post's are predictable and you say very little substance. Unless of course it is in your support for IRA terrorist who you admit you would like Christina to emulate in Argentina. You are a Paid Idiot indeed.
Baiting you was mildly amusing though.
In FI doesn´t have ophthalmologist. Come on, read Shakespeare and Borges because it will permit to open your mind (so closer). Sunday Bl.... Sunday... After 40 years, this year, the Queen apologized (and paid indemnisation of victims) of the terrible killing (for UK) event in Ireland. God save the IRA and Sinn Féin!
Dec 26th, 2011 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for that (166) kipling.
Dec 26th, 2011 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your support for the pub bombing murderers of the IRA shows you're in a different world to the rest of humanity.
A good many ordinary folks, men and women, going about their business were ripped to pieces in those blasts. Many died. Many were maimed for life. There was plenty of blood around. I know people that had to help deal with the aftermath of the attacks. It was'nt pretty.
None of them were particularly against the Irish people and none of them had any enmity against your country. We were'nt enemies then.
The irony is that Sinn Fein realised that violence was'nt going to solve anything, they had to get into a political discussion with the UK govt AND with the protestants in Northern Ireland.
However, we don't need to talk to the likes of you or CFK.
I bet you never had to deal with a terrorist incident, and I hope you don't have to. I don't think you would have the stomach to be of any use.
Kipling,
Dec 26th, 2011 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a real dipsh*t. You even qualify for poltroon status.
Kipling must be Ogara, he is always praising the IRA scum.
Dec 26th, 2011 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I lost some workfriends in the pub bombings: as far as I am concerned all the IRA scum and their 'Irish' mates in the USA should have a 0.22 bullet in the head, even now.
1 - proximity analysis Capital of the Falklands, Port Stanley (Stanley) Distance between London and Port Stanley (Stanley): 12,700 Kilometers / 8000 Miles Distance between Rio Grande, Argentina and Puerto Argentino (Stanley): 800 Kilometers / 500 Miles: Rio Grande is the nearest town to the Islands, and Argentina, the closest nation. Within a radius of 800 kilometers (500 miles) Stanley (Stanley) will find nothing but water and Argentine mainland and island. “The Falkland Islands belong geographically to the South American continent, and for this reason are a natural part of Argentine territorial domain, in whose presence they are.” 2 - Sea Convention The Sea Convention is a comprehensive document produced in the field of United Nations in 1982, dedicated to legislate and define the jurisdictions in the waters and seabed. The seabed is a natural extension of the landmasses and integrate so-called continental margins, now covered by the sea. The Sea Convention has established a complex procedure for claiming those countries with sea coasts. It has been estimated that the territories that belong to Argentina in this condition have an extension of 2,500,000 square kilometers, and in this case, and according to the provisions of the Convention, over ocean areas belonging to the so-called “ exclusive economic zone. ” The dry land portion of the ocean are obviously islands. In the case of Argentina is the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands, in addition to other children. They are continental islands because in all cases emerge from platforms or continental margins. The islands have been usurped by the United Kingdom. The seabed and ocean are the masses under the provisions of the Sea Convention “The Falkland Islands are geologically related to the Patagonia.” The discovery of the Falklands has been alleged by several sailors be
Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0In that case the the UK can claim the continental landmasses of Europe and Asia as we share a continental shelf with them. That's great!
Dec 27th, 2011 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0We could possibly extend this to include Africa as well...........
I think you'll find that prior claims and existing settlement of islands modify what people can actually claim. Besides these things are open to dispute in some areas (like the Artic Ocean).
Hey, I just realised, being as we own the Falklands, and they are connnected to South America by the continental shelf, we can claim Argentina too! I don't think that the size of the contingent territory affects the legality of our claim!
You had better be prepared to learn how to drive on the left and become a British citizen Cero. If you don't like it we'll arrange for you to evacuate your home in Argentina and re-settle in “your country of ancestral origin”. You can take all your belongings with you. We promise to treat the others who remain behind well................
171 shb
Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great reply.
Only trouble is the idiotic Argies have no concept of irony!
@171 shb,
Dec 27th, 2011 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too true,
And as we were in Patagonia before them, thats 2 good reasons why it belongs to us.
l'm going to like this when we take over. l want sr Think's farm.
He can bugger off back to Sweden where he belongs :)
It is a Global Attack against UK, no way my arrogant friend.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@171
Dec 27th, 2011 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0again good reply.
B.A. was occupied for a while so let's start there. Head northwest and liberate the Guarani who are being oppressed there. They would love to join in and get rid of the occupyers!!
PETER PRESTON, THE GUARDIAN, UK: “IT MAKES NO ECONOMIC OR POLITICAL SENSE TO HANG ON TO THE FALKLANDS, BUT NO ONE WILL FACE THE TRUTH”
Dec 27th, 2011 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MORE: www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/nov/14/falklands-economic-crisis-politics-argentina
Shb you nearly had me in tears
Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ChrisR the creator which pub were your friends in when they wrer killed?
Isolde you sound like you will be shipped off somewhere when Argentina recovers it's territory.When we do you will have the right to live inPatagonia should you wish.But please drop the land grabbing notion,there are laws in Argentina you know.Would be lovely to see you kiss the flag of Argentina.
PS shb you do know many Irish people were executed during the shoot to kill period as there were in Argentina during the 70's.You need to grow up,the world isn't as we might like it to be,only the creator can explain it's working's
149@ briton
Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don´t be ridiculous
Let´s see:
Brasil tiene un ingreso per capita cercano a los 11500 dolares y UK esta alrededor de 35mil año-
Eso significa que Brasil tiene mucho mas por crecer: Uds. son una economia maduro, crecer al 3% es casi un milagro para Uds. Crecer a tasas de Brasil ó Argentina ó China es para economias que todavia TIENEN MUCHAS OPORTUNIDADES, cosa que en UK eso no es posible-
Así que ubicate en el lugar que te toca en la palmera: si Brasil llegase a los 20 mil dolares anuales, como economía serían una de las 3 mas importantes del globo, y eso es muy posible...que vas a decir entonces? que son feos?
Ellos tienenmucho por crecer, son un pais joven de mucha gente-
Y son nuestros principales socios comerciales-
Briton: keep your pocket bussy whit Malvinas expendeture: we say thank you, in the minwhile you pay for our own land.
And please send to the island a good qtty of therapists.... they will need them....
Regards.
177
Dec 28th, 2011 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh no, you are going to have to make me use some facts.....
QUOTE “You need to grow up,the world isn't as we might like it to be,only the creator can explain it's working's” .
This is a bit unfortunate when the poster is guilty of exactly what he is accusing someone else of........
Lets look at the numbers killed : North Ireland
British Army 705
RUC 301
NIPS 24
TA 7
Other British police 6
Royal Air Force 4
Royal Navy 2
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Irish Army 1
Garda 9
PIRA 293
INLA 44
OIRA 29
IPLO 9
RIRA 2
UDA 81
Civilians killed: 1,857 (About 187 were killed by the secrurity forces).
This shows that events like bloody sunday were the exception rather than the norm and, generally, troops were under restrictive ROE.
The body count for the Dirty war varies between 9000-30,000. This massive degree of uncertainty shows just how bad things got in your country and that either there were so many the Junta could'nt
A) be bothered to keep the records,
B) “lost” the records to prevent criminal proceedings, such as those Levelled against the Prachute regiment after Bloody Sunday.
As for shoot to kill, it was rarely used. Besides lets look at a typical shoot to kill incident (Gibraltor). You can A) shoot the members of an IRA active service unit who are planting a bomb set to go off outside the governors residence during the changing of the guard- or-B) take the risk that they will get away or detonate the device remotely.
You almost had me in tears, oh, actually you did'nt. I hope the bullets really hurt.
Besides: QUOTE “You need to grow up,the world isn't as we might like it to be,only the creator can explain it's working's” pretty much sums up what I think of your countries claim to the Falklands, being as we are the party actually in posssession of them at the moment.
@177Yuleno,
Dec 28th, 2011 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0So you would deport me would you?
Typical Argentine response.
Don't like opposition to your“peaceful”tyranny do you?
You would have to catch me first. l've been through all that before.
l have an Argentine flag, but l certainly don't kiss the grotty thing.
No, Yuleno, l have my heart set on sr Think's farm. Can you arrange it?
After all, you Argentines are pretty good at claiming something that doesn't belong to you!
btw-did you ever research about Amritsar?
Happy New Year, Yuleno.
si nunca nos pertenecio, porque dejaron entonces antes de la guerra que mi pais pusiera oficinas de LADE, Gas del Estado, Correo, etc. etc. etc.?
Dec 28th, 2011 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0No era empresas privadas: eran empresas estatales, que estaban en todas las provincias argentinas-
Please Isolde, try to remember, i´m sure you know that-
Medical atention at continent, free education.... now is not convenient to remember that?
Always belong to us, and try to find the way to understand that..... G77 (131 over 190 countries who participate on ONU Assembly), Mercosur (Chile for example), China, even Rusia, Caribean countries....... Lot of people support us don´t you think?
Even Guardian and Independent want to talk......
Oh my God, you will need lot of help !
Regards-
@181Rosarino,
Dec 28th, 2011 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l hate spoil your delusions, Roses, but you are in fact wrong.
The Falklands have NEVER belonged to you(l know, l know, you tried to steal them, but that doesn't make them yours).
l do feel a bit of sympathy for your countrymen.
You desire something that you can NEVER HAVE.
l don't care who supports you, you have been lied to.
The lslands are not yours, they are ours, don't you think?
The Guardian is a communist newspaper.
l read it occasionally just to find out what the reds are up to.
Those two newspapers don't live here.
The people who do, do not want to talk to you about sovereignty.
Therefore there will be no talks. Get used to it.
One of the problems with you Argentines, is when you can't get your own way, you start with the personal insults.
You do not endear yourselves to us. We don't like you. We don't want anything to do with your broken country. Just go away.
lf you are SO SURE that you are right, then take us to the ICJ.
lf that doesn't work, then there is always War.
Your decision, Rosarino, Court or War.
Well?♥
Some people don't read what's written
Dec 28th, 2011 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only 187 civilians killed by security forces.Thats it,what I wrote.That Irish civilians were murdered by state operatives acting illegally.State Terrorism if you prefer.
You will be able to move to Patagonia,is not being shipped off.But if you don't want to live under argentine jurisdiction you would ship yourself off.
Now on armritsar we got as far as you soldier man got put on trial and thrown out of the force because of his actions at Amritsar.Did you not keep up,Isolde,or did you not read those last few posts.Perhaps you have more on the subject which would be of interest before we find out about Iraq, Libya and other places
Happy new year to you and yours Isolde
@177Yuleno,-- So we now know what would happen if you psychopaths ever get your hands on the Falkland islands, you would deport Isolde from her home and I suspect everyone else who lives there and probably throw them into the sea to disappear for ever . That's why Yuleno most able-bodied persons in Britain would walk over the water to get at you psychopaths if you ever tried to do just that.
Dec 28th, 2011 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0183
Dec 28th, 2011 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0187 people killed over many years. Not only in deliberate attacks (thankfully few, like in Bloody Sunday) but also in rioting, accidents and acts of idiocy, like the cretins who from time to time decided to play chicken with army checkpoints (would you drive a car at a group of heavily armed soldiers at a roadblock for fun?)
Hardly an extermination policy, besides people have been held to account if their actions where illegal.
Besides, much of your discourse is irrelevant to the matter at hand, unless you want to talk about “tragic week”. Well you wanted to dredge up 1919.
If you don't already know tragic week was the one (jan 1919) in which 700 people were killed and another 4000 wounded in Buenas Ares during demonstrations and strike action. A further 1500 were killed in the following repression. To make it even more pleasant the Argentine Patriotic League used the unrest as cover to launch a pogrom against the cities Jewish population.
Is'nt history ugly........I really would'nt go throwing around too many rocks in that greenhouse if I were you........
Besides we are living in 2011, not 1919. What matters is the people affected now.
Happy New Year, Yuleno(again).
Dec 28th, 2011 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isolde -
Dec 29th, 2011 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I take it you actually come from the Falkland islands - I'm not surprised you dislike some of the Argentine posters here, considering their casual dismissal of your right to live in your own home in peace.
QUOTE “You will be able to move to Patagonia,is not being shipped off.But if you don't want to live under argentine jurisdiction you would ship yourself off.”
If someone was threatening my home and family, I would be angry too. It's a disgusting attitude for them to have.
You tell 'em.
Don't suppose you want shipping someplace,shb,for writing rubbish.You were the one who wrote-
Dec 29th, 2011 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0You had better be prepared to learn how to drive on the left and become a British citizen Cero. If you don't like it we'll arrange for you to evacuate your home in Argentina and re-settle in “your country of ancestral origin”. You can take all your belongings with you. We promise to treat the others who remain behind well................
Aren't you a nice one
As the brutish might say,get a brain or use it better.
@188 Yuleno,
Dec 29th, 2011 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0l have refrained from calling you Argentines,
1) wops
2) wogs
3) spics
4) greasers
5) dagos etc.
But if you continue to call us “brutish” then all bets are off.
You are not very original as sr Think thought of that name long before you.
You, however use it whenever you can.....& you want us to have dialogue with you???? ln your dreams sweetheart.
Your nation is far, far more “brutish” than we will ever be.
You just don't get it do you? (& you're not going to get it, either!)
Hello Yuleno. Throw as many insults at me as you like, I could do with a laugh.
Dec 29th, 2011 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HERE ARE YOUR OWN WORDS TO ISOLDE
“Isolde you sound like you will be shipped off somewhere when Argentina recovers it's territory.When we do you will have the right to live inPatagonia should you wish.But please drop the land grabbing notion,there are laws in Argentina you know.Would be lovely to see you kiss the flag of Argentina.”
Don't you like it if someone says the same thing to you? What a pity for you. YOU ARE THREATENING TO THROW HER OUT OF HER HOME.
If deportation is good enough for for the Falklanders, then it is good enough for you. You are talking to someone who really does'nt care what you think of me personally.
Don't threaten people with actions you would'nt like to happen to you.
If someone threatened to annex my country, force me use a foreign language, take away my culture and identity, I would fight to the death to oppose them.
Don't be so surprised that The Falklanders are equally as dedicated to preserving their way of life.
Besides, I bet you're imaging you're in the glory days of the 80's, “shipping shb out” by helicopter to a watery death for the temerity to stand up to you and say “NO”.
Slagging each other of, won’t achieve nothing,
Dec 29th, 2011 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This may well suit the Argies better, as it absolves their arguments by watering ours down,
The fact is, it does not matter how long they have claimed [what is clearly not theirs]
They had no excuse under the sun, to invade a defenceless, little unarmed island,
Without provocation,
Thus are directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people,
Yet despite this, [and their refusal to apologise] they shill, even to day, without justification, abuse threatened intimidate blockade the islands, then have the Gaul to say, you belong to them,
They want you; they will respect your rights,
This is in effect nothing more than indoctrination and brain washing, to try and turn the islanders against the British, by promising a luxury lifestyle,
Then 5 min, later start up the abuse, telling lies to the world, getting other nations to do her dirty work, than say[its not us, their choice]
// for if they really wanted you lot, they would be treating you like royaly and doing everything they could, to help you,
But alas I think all they want, is the wealth, that lies under and just off your coast,
They will move in hundreds of argentine citizens, so as to out number you, then with a majority, change everything, that you hold dear, then make life totally anti British, so you will leave.
They wont fight, so they use the talking word, on the surface,
Then skulduggery beneath, they will stop at nothing to get them,
[Including dragging themselves to war and bloodshed]
She knows as long as she keeps on pushing, their can only be one likely outcome,
But being obsessed and in denial she thinks we will just crack, and hand them over,
But she keeps forgetting, we are not a 3rd world defenceless nation,
We can and we will fight for them, the decisions she makes, will have severe consequences for all.
Just an interesting thought .
.
190# doesn't deserve a reply,unless it's for the benefit of other posters.
Dec 29th, 2011 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0189# I'm sure you use the words you prefer.Don't let me influence your choices.You refer to me by any name you wish.I got the word from Marco and use it to reflect the aggressive nature some people have not their racial make-up or some other stereotypical slur.
191# are you a serial poster or is it an editorial for the brutish posters.
@190 shb, & 191 briton,
Dec 29th, 2011 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for your support boys.
@192 Yuleno,
As much as l would like to carry out my threat, l will not.
There are, no doubt, many decent Argentines, such as Artillero601, & l would not knowingly like to insult them for no reason.
Besides, such words are not normally in my vocabulary.
However, you are despicable.
191# are you a serial poster or is it an editorial for the brutish [british] readers ] posters
Dec 29th, 2011 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yes sadly the truth hurts, but dont expect us to supply you with any plasters .
Okay Isolde I will bow to your wishes.You are after all correct and it was the novelty that appealed to me.What about bratish,that would be just as silly wouldn't it.How is it your so sensitive about it though :-)
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