MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
“We can never accept the Argentine government’s challenge to Falklands self-determination”
“We will always maintain our commitment to you on any question of sovereignty because your right to self-determination is the cornerstone of our policy”, said British Prime Minister David Cameron in his Christmas message to the Falkland Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesyes, he is a really bullie, but sorry gordito!!
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kiwank - what was your president's Christmas message to those who are forced to live in your slums?
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I am CFK and I am on medication. I am trying to get hold of some Islands in the South Atlantic and am not doing a great job as the Uruguayan navy have said they cannot legally ban vessels from those Islands. Such laws are not important in Argentina as I am CFK and I am going to soon control the media. My glorious gift to the poor is inflation and a picture of myself that must be hung in your house and schools, my visit to North Korea has crystallized my view that this will make us strong.”
Not far from the truth?
l want one of those pictures of rubber-face, Beef.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0So l can show my kids who it is who would like to cause a lot of trouble.
After that we might use it for a dart board.
“he Falklands continue to enjoy significant economic success. ”
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0How many of this “success” is the fishing resources use?
Making friends
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/12/20/rajoy-announces-to-spain-deep-spending-cuts-and-tax-breaks-for-companies
Hurrah !
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Be careful, England
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nicolas-sarkozy/8946443/Did-Nicolas-Sarkozy-snub-David-Camerons-handshake-at-EU-treaty-summit.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nicolas-sarkozy/8946443/Did-Nicolas-Sarkozy-snub-David-Camerons-handshake-at-EU-treaty-summit.html
And, of course, making friends
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nicolas-sarkozy/8946443/Did-Nicolas-Sarkozy-snub-David-Camerons-handshake-at-EU-treaty-summit.html
We are always careful - which is why we are winners!
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hubrys, hubrys everywhere
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0en.mercopress.com/2011/12/20/rajoy-announces-to-spain-deep-spending-cuts-and-tax-breaks-for-companies
2 read the Irish Times yesterday it seems you have quite your share but in a cold horrible wet climate.Are you one of those?
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cameron will soon tell the planters that indeed they will have the final say but the City cant afford them anymore
@6 Asdrúbal el Bello (#) Thats over a week old news mate, since then Germany has snubbed the French and came begging back to us, to try and repair our diplomatic relationship.Sarkozy is nothing, hes a jealous arrogant leader......
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8965870/Germany-tells-Britain-not-to-give-up-on-Europe.html
Well, but the dinosaur is still here
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2011/12/20/rajoy-announces-to-spain-deep-spending-cuts-and-tax-breaks-for-companies
And there
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/12/20/rajoy-announces-to-spain-deep-spending-cuts-and-tax-breaks-for-companies
So, your point is that the EU will collapse, a point that is widly considered true and not doubted by many here. So why exactly do you feel the need to emphasise this ?
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0My friend, it is the same for us. Argentina will not give up of Malvinas forever.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't mind Kiwi everyone, hes just a little shaken up from today's earthquake and hasn't recovered from the skid marks in his pants yet lol ;)))
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands will remain a British Overseas Territory for as long as the Islanders wish it!!!
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing argentina does will change that situation in the forseeable future as nobody likes to be threatened by an overbearing argentine Bully!!
Long Live the Falklands.
no disrespect david, but i suggest you get of your arse, and give us back our forces that you and your deluded mates in power, have destroyed,
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0give us back our ships and planes and carriers,
before some other 3rd world wannabys make you look stupid .
just my opinion .
13 Kipling cakes---- Then we had better reduce your puny country to ruins to settle the matter once and for all, oops I forgot your country is ruined, high inflation 2 million in slums and that's just in your capital and most of the population so deluded and fixated on our Islands that they belong in some sort of institution
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=ytff1-&va=Argentina+slums
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=ytff1-&va=Argentina+slums
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=ytff1-&va=Argentina+slums
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=ytff1-&va=Argentina+slums
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=ytff1-&va=Argentina+slums
And you bunch of psychopaths want to subject our people to this. Go f*** yourselves, we are more than willing to once more kick your arses. How is it that a few small islands that do not belong to you psychopaths can do so well and a country the size of Argentina always as high inflation and most of its population live in slums? There must be only one reason for it, its former citizens are from the scum of society in Europe and it’s been passed down generation to generation to keep up the tradition of being scum by interbreeding. I can think of no other reason for Argentina to do so bad in the world while a just a few hundred miles away on wind swept islands a community of people mostly from British descent do so well.
Well that me done until after Christmas. Happy Christmas to everyone, all except anyone who comes from Argentina that is, to them I hold them in the utmost contempt and wish nothing but pestilence and plague its nothing more than they deserve.
This conflict is really complicated and annoying. Both UK and Argentina uses the islands as a pretext to nationalistic politics. Thanks to the war, Margret Thatcher got re-elected. Otherwise she would have lost. Argentina claims the islands when thing are not well at home. If this conflict continues it can become more complicated. Since Argentina is backed up by Mercosur and nowdays also a bit by UNASUR, it means that all southamerican countries would be able to support Argentina.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I understand both Argentinas claim and UK. I think the best solution would be to share soverignity. Make it a Free zone of some kind, so that both countries are satisfied. If this conflict continues it can become bigger in a global context. This conflict reminds me of Hong Kong. South america is becoming stronger like China and does not want to have a strong military and bellic nation as neigbour. Now that there could be oil and other resources around the island it complicate thing even further.
#19 I think the best solution would be to share soverignity.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, the best solution would be for the FI to get full independence. Unfortunately, that would be acceptable to the UK, but not to Argentina.
Also, the Islanders aren't going to want full indpendence while they have an aggressive neighbour on their doorstep who is enviously eyeing up their territory.
14 Asdrúbal el Repugnante
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why are you so fixated on an obviously fake photograph – was it your brother or some other relative that you are ashamed of?
It is very clear that Falkland Islands are Argentinian. Studying a little of history and geography, is enough to realize of that. Of course, in the world some countries believe that have good reasons to steal territories (England) but really only have the military power to impose their interests.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A lot of people around the world in different countries and several continents agree with this positions. It is very known that the arguments of UK are too weak. However, as in most of other situations, sooner or later the truth will prevail.
22 johnfarrel2050 (#)
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK OK enough already. We all know you have mastered the concept of cut and paste but pasting the same worthless quote over and over again does not make your comment any more original. We don't care what you have to say because it is a stupid post. It was stupid the first time and continues to be be.
You have not studied anything. You are not fooling anyone OK? Goodbye.
Islanders' self determination rights ?
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then ,don't wait , determine your rights .
Mr R.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the pic is a “an obviously fake photograph”...
Why is still here?
25 Asdrúbal el Repugnante
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, we can all have a laugh, can't we. Well, the Brits can anyway.
David ..who can take you serious/listen...
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0here is the historic truths
-- 1776 / British expelled from the region
-- 1806 / British attack on to invade La Plata
-- 1807/ British are expelled from this region again
-- 1811/15 Spaniards withdrawn from region
-- 1831 / British uses US warship to destroy the islands
-- 1833 / British invade the islands to revenge of 1806/07
Mr R.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then we can all have a laugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Deomj7buc&feature=related
27 geo why do you always come up with lies,
Dec 24th, 2011 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0propergander, you lost, bye.
“- 1831 / British uses US warship to destroy the islands”
Dec 24th, 2011 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is the funny one.
What a complete idiot.
27 geo (#)
Dec 24th, 2011 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think i've read something this idiotic since ogaga, xboybox, yulnoentiendo, or morcocs.
You really make Argentines proud! Thanks for your input.
i like -- 1776 / British expelled from the region
by who exactly. Please just answer that.
If you can I will fight on your side.
Tell the Yanks that the Lexington raid was British doing Geo - you'll get laughed out of your mental hospital !
Dec 24th, 2011 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Live and learn Geo - http://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/falklands-history.pdf
@27geo,
Dec 24th, 2011 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0l don't know where you're getting your information from, but it's all wrong.
geo, you just stick to the conspiracy theories(l like them, too!).
maybe we can trade secrets & stories.
merry christmas
** 31 V.Ricardo
Dec 24th, 2011 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0-1770 / Spaniards expel the British Colony
-1771 / Anglo-Spanish treaty allows Brits to return to colony
- 1774 / British withdrawal from colony
- 1776/ British leave plaque to assert caim on abondoned colony
- 1811 / Spaniards withdrawn from colony.....
@34geo,
Dec 24th, 2011 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Better, some more?
** 35 isol
Dec 24th, 2011 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i am country expert not colony..have not much idea on Malvinas
these dates / explains are taken from Ed's old posts............!!
36 geo ///- i am country expert
Dec 24th, 2011 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which country are you an expert of,
And is that expertise, pre-Argentina, or post-Argentina,
Just a thought .
** 37 brit
Dec 24th, 2011 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i am an expert of Fiji/Kiribati/Samoa.....etc.
is not Fiji british
Dec 24th, 2011 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is not Samoa American
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
but i see you are not an expert on great britain or the falklands,
interesting, very interesting,
the intergalactic police will be interested in this information.
merry xmas friend .
** brit 39
Dec 24th, 2011 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i am very interested nowadays on the last 4 years house prices more
lowering of N.Ireland/Scotland contrary of other regions /causings.
BECOUSE
N.Ireland : 2008/585(index).....2011/530(index)
Scotland : 2008/480(index).....2011/420(index)
well if they drop below 50,000 in devon,even we little mites, might get a look in .
Dec 24th, 2011 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Devon ? south west region !
Dec 24th, 2011 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this is most expensive region after London...!!
yeh tell me abt it .
Dec 25th, 2011 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0#36 - Geo(graphy) admitting he/she/it has no idea what he/she/is's talking about !
Dec 25th, 2011 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well it's a start :-)
geo & Ed, same person?
Dec 25th, 2011 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0** 45 isol
Dec 25th, 2011 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0no aint ...!!
you have some guessing problem...!!
geo = geo2
BUT
there are some multi-named posters here ??
Briton Says
Dec 25th, 2011 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0for my new year resolution I am going to turn over a new leaf .
?????????????????
I will go into the Garden,
I will find a new leaf,
And I will turn it over.
??
47 briton
Dec 25th, 2011 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Watch out for Argies crawling underneath it.
dont worry
Dec 25th, 2011 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i have a cruise missiles
in my back pocket.lol
how ignorant of him, Argentina doesn't want to intefere with fakland island company rights to selfdetermination they are free to get Argentine citizenship or go back to their motherland nation, the british has overstayed their welcome in Argentina we didn't want british in south America back in 1807 and we don't want it now, apparently UK seems bent on starting a war, and if that is what they want I demand Argentina to build a nuclear defence program, to make sure this time the brits get the point.
Dec 26th, 2011 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 050 Pratt-Junta
Dec 26th, 2011 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0'and if that is what they want I demand Argentina to build a nuclear defence program, to make sure this time the brits get the point'
With what? You new 'defence budget' is only 5.0BUSD and you have a fixed cost base of 3.2BUSD to come out of that, 1.8BUSD would not even get you a set of design briefs done. How are you going to do it, what 'scientists' does Argentina have (still in the country) who can design it and WTF can you build it apart from the poxy shipyard that is storing on wood all the crap old submarines from'82?
Old Rubber Neck would crap her nickers at the thought of this nonsense AND I know the Wop has got 'preparations for a nuclear sub' in his 'defence review' (ha, ha, ha - sorry, I just had to laugh) but that is only to sweep the yard out.
I think Briton has the right idea, get Airfix (the well known childrens plastic model kit maker) to build you a full size one so all you deluded Argentino pratts can sit and admire it. NOW there's a plan for you!
Argentina doesn't need nuclear weapons. The English will be bombing their own country soon. Talk about slums - it looks more like Congo every day. It's falling to bits. Soon the Falklanders will be begging for readmission to Argentina
Dec 26th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 052 john jones guys like you
Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0are thicker than a cheese sandwich,
without the pickle.
bloody indocinoughts
Yes, the truth hurts. I really do think if the Falklanders are so proud to be British, they ought to rush back to England and save it before they end up getting ruled by King Bongo I or Suleiman the Merciful.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54 johnjones,
Dec 27th, 2011 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We don't ought to do anything, johnnylito. We can do what we like in OUR country & it's got nothing to do with you.
The truth has never hurt me, what about you?
When the Aborigines finally get all their land rights & you have to return the land that you stole, don't come knocking on our or the UK's doors.
Perhaps you should carve out a new life for yourself in Argentina where you & your new mates can make each other miserable all day, dreaming of what might have been while staring westwards towards the Falklands.
Hope this helps♥
John Jones.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aaww. I like 'em actually. I have many Ozzy friends and family and use many phrase. I guess because many are derived from Cockney it feels right too me!!
Anyway. It's too hot here to carry on typing. I'm off for a few tinny's. Straiight out of the Esky!! happy xmas to all the normal people here. (that's not you Ogaga IRA lover or Xcockbox)
Aren't the Malvinas Islands EAST of the Argentinian coastline. The Aborigines will get nothing because if Aussies finally lose their bottle, as you British say, it'll be the Chinese that take over (or finish taking over) and Aboriginal lands will go from 20% of the continent to zero.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aren't the Malvinas Islands EAST [they dont exist
Dec 28th, 2011 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, John, you are correct in one thing. l made a mistake.
Dec 28th, 2011 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0We look westward but “they”would look east.
However you got the country's name wrong.
These are the Falkland lslands.
Easy mistake for you to make, l guess.
Especially if you've been reading Argentine lies.
(or finish taking over
Dec 29th, 2011 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0why would finland take over australia .
@60 briton,
Dec 29th, 2011 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Quite witty, briton.
l'll bet Welsh johnny won't like it though!
He obviously prefers a Chinese
Dec 29th, 2011 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fish & chip man myself.
Titter titter ..
Over 60 comments on this subject and we are still british. A billion comments won't change it either. 1000 years won't either. Get used to it Argentina we are Proud to be British and more proud to be Falkland Islanders living our dream in a democratic way we chose to live.
Dec 30th, 2011 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0You could not persuade us in 1982 what makes you think you can change our wish now.
MR Cameron says,
Dec 30th, 2011 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina now wants to apologise for the lies and deceit,
We will seriously consider it .
195 Malvinense 1833 in another comments page said You ask I think who controlled the Falklands befor 1833 rather than who controlled Britain. Well from all the evidance pointing to 1592 and a certain British Captain John Davies I suspect it was always rightfully controlled by Britain though there was a small period when the French thought they could start to settle our Islands without first checking who actually did control them. That little act started what we know today as the Argentine claim. so it would appear that everyone once laid claim to us including Spain but reality is just like your country is now settled by your lo,t ours is settled by Falkland Islands decendants running into nine generations so moraly the people of the Falkland Islands now rightfully own and control this land. If Argentina disputes that then she should also be called into question as to how she became in control of what is now Argentina.
Dec 30th, 2011 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But as we all know Argentines are small minded thugs by and large who do not believe in rights do they.
Hang on, didn't the treaty of Tordesillas allot Spain this past of the hemisphere in 1492? The line moved westwards later but the Portuguese don't seem to have questioned possession of these islands whose existance was certainly known in the 16th century. Of course this was before “privateering”. The states is South America inherited the rights of the Spanish crown.
Dec 30th, 2011 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Treaty Tordesillas was not recognised by any other country except Spain & Portugal.
Dec 31st, 2011 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0The states in South America were in rebellion against the Spanish Crown & thus inherited nothing.
Try again, johnny.♥
2012 will be the year of the british
Jan 01st, 2012 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0football
olympics
diamond jubilee
Royal navy
everywhere you look , you will see the Union Jack
all over the world, radio TV newspapers,
and argentina will all, but be forggoten about.
happy new year
Well, no other states were able or willing to dispute Spanish and Portuguese possession as for over 100 years after the treaty of Tordesillas, every European possession outside Europe itself belonged to those two countries.
Jan 01st, 2012 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0The rebellions in America were initially against Napoleon and in favour of Ferdinand VII. Eventually the Spanish crown recognised the American republics as inheritors of its territories and rights.
So what? The world was not theirs to divide. No other countries acknowedged their “claims”.
Jan 01st, 2012 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0What about the Russians extending eastwards through Asia?
What about the French in the St Laurence valley in Canada?
First explored then settled in 1524.
Spain did not recognise Argentina until the 1860's when there had been continuous British settlement in the Falklands for 30 years.
Argentina inherited nothing from Spain.
lf you recognise the Treaty of Tordesillas, then do you also recognise the Treaty of Zaragoza? lt was a follow up treaty some years later.
Naturally the Spanish & the Portuguese would meet on the other side of the earth 180degrees from the Tordesillas line.
So they drew another line.
Thats why the Philippines were Spanish & the spice islands(lndonesia) was Portuguese.
Well that line happens to bisect Australia.(not too sure of its exact location, but l think that its the border between WA & the rest)
Are you willing to cede WA to the Portuguese & the rest of Oz to the Spanish? lf not, why not as you have such strong feelings that we should give our land to Argentina?
Stop the anti-British rubbish, mate & just admit that you are wrong.
The Falklands do NOT belong to Argentina & NEVER have.
You know it,
l know it,
The Argentines know it but will not admit it,
The whole bloody world knows it.
And guess what? They'll NEVER get these lslands & they know that too.
To put it mildly
Jan 01st, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They have run out of excuses and the truth,
The insults are wearing pretty thin
The sabre rattling is getting fainter
And their whole argument is on very dodgy ground,
The only back up they receive from ANYONE is purely in the form of talking
Or token gesture.
Let’s face it, 2012 is the year of the British
And the Argies will just fade away, except for a very few deluded bloggers who cant find the nuthouse .
Just a British thought .
.
Happy New Year, briton♥
Jan 01st, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lsolde
Jan 01st, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A happy new year to you too.
.
Never is a long time. Tordesillas is of course superseded but was a means of establishing lines between Europe's only colonial powers in 1594. Spain and Portugal remained so for more than a century after that - Russia didn't start moving into Siberia for a century and the French poking around in Canada, like Walter Raleigh's abortive colony, the Huguenots in Florida, all bear witness to the monopoly enjoyed by the two Iberian kingdoms.
Jan 01st, 2012 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina, like the other states arising from the former Viceroyalty of La Plata can only establish their historical borders on the basis of that historical entity, which was not a colony technically speaking, and therefore Spain was not at liberty to dispose of any territories formerly belonging to it. If while the two countries were in dispute, part of either one of them was occupied by a third country that wouldn't really constitute much of a legal argument.
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