MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Chile prepares for “crossed pressures” on the Falklands’ conflict 30th anniversary
The Chilean Foreign Affairs ministry has been very busy doing a complete review of norms and of maritime traffic and international trade agreements in the event of what are considered growing pressures from Argentina to establish a sort of “regional blockade” against the Malvinas Islands, a UK Overseas Territory. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo, diplomatic sources in Chile are confirming they will not break any international laws - the consequeces of which would be far greater than upsetting their irrational neighbours - and warn Argentina not to ask them to do so. Thus Argentina can avoid a humiliting refusal.
Jan 16th, 2012 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting and well played by Chile.
Chile realise that they are doing alot of the business that Argentina is losing and are currently laughing all the way to the bank.CFK is having her backside gently wiped with a wetwipe ! LOL
Jan 16th, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, Visc., Chile is just reminding Argentina that it intends to be scrupilous in its application of international laws.
Jan 16th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0If this is analagous to wet-wiping CFK's bunda, then Chile is saying 'don't ask me to clean you up, do it your self'.
I think Argentina should start looking into inevitable sanctions against nations trading with the enemy, not just to focus on chile but anyone taking a possition against Argentina's interest, maybe people just want war to sale weapons to south America but I think trading the resources in Malvinas Argentina's ocean will give Argentina a lot of fire power withpout investing 1 cent, buyer be ware, not for the soft stomach but for the high rollers.
Jan 16th, 2012 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 04
Jan 16th, 2012 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do it and do it now!
Pirat is talking through his BUNDA !!
Jan 16th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How-ever lets hope President Sebastian Piñera,Ambassador Bejamin and Chile’s Foreign Affairs ministry are able to help LAN when they come under pressure and show loyalty to their own successful Chilean company rather than a temporary Argentine President.
Really, Chile is commited to keep it under Intl. laws so won´t never ever close it´s ports to any pacific wherever flagged vessel because Chile respect it word and sign even if it means conflicts with it neighbors, as on 1978 and on 19thc entury was showed......
Jan 16th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know Mr. Benjamin is working very hard to keep the situation under control related to the Argentine pressing to the Chilean Gvt.
@4 Yes, great idea!! Throw a tantrum and impose sanctions against all your trading partners. Then what will you do when they retaliate?
Jan 16th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is going to be interesting for chile is reconciling themselves with the legacy of Pinochet.There will be divisions there,nothing to do with inter/l law,or will there be?
Jan 16th, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 04 Pirat-Hunter (#)
Jan 16th, 2012 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jan 16th, 2012 - 12:09 pm
I think Argentina should start looking into inevitable sanctions against nations trading with the enemy
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Doing that would mean nothing else than economical suicide of an end-time drug addict. Argentina is in a very sensitive situation regarding their biased economic trade policies. “Sanctioning” the ones what will not follow Argentina's Tantrums would mean they would have to sanction the whole world. Not even Argentina's Sattelite state Uruguay is willing to do it, so forget about it that Brasil or Chile would do it.
Pirat - Who is the enemy? Didnt know you had any. I thought he whole world loves you and the whole world support you and is going to offer to assist you in reclaiming Las Malvinas?
Jan 16th, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With your talk of sanctions (which no one of any significance will back you on) then it appears you have some doubt as to Argentines ability or case to prevent the Falkland Islanders exploit their own resources.
Oil exploration in frontier regions is certainly for the high rollers which is why Argentina is not involved.
Again this is nothing short of purely anti British rhetoric,
Jan 16th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their cannot be a regional blockade” without it being illegal,
Any other unilateral action, would be classed as provocative,
And would lead directly to conflict, so this is totally rubbish, and indoctrination of the masses, and argie bloggers, no other south American country will back Argentina, in anything other than talking,
Argentina would face world condemnation and almost certainly embargos on her own country, if she pushed this to far, so it should be treated as it is, [rubbish]
Until she backs it up, then talking is the norm, take or leave it,
Talking is all Argentina is prepared to do,
As for her loyal bloggers,
The same goes for them as well,
Talk .
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Chile is going to do whatever they feel is in their best interest obviously. Bedding down with a collagen version of Chavez, read CFK, is probably not in Chile's best interest. Maybe that's why Chile has the best managed gov't. in Latin America and their standard of living and per capita GDP are doing well? Still lots of problems, but doing well. The socialist maniacs of Latin America will run their course and the people of those countries will realize that making people happy short-term doesn't do any good necessarily for the long-term.
Jan 16th, 2012 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pathetic Argentinian diplomacy amounts to “do what I want or else”.
Jan 16th, 2012 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hateful Argentina is always full of threats.
Cowardly Argentina is full of shit.
Tactless Argentina is heading for a fall.
Be serious Get a life mate, go and blog about the crap thats going on in
Jan 16th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brittain you have no purpose on this site you dont belong to Mercosur
go back to the London slum you crawled from.
Hello Chile. Can you remember your history? Would you like to recall British and Argentine actions in relation to your country? Should you remember British leadership?
Jan 16th, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, stuff you! Get this straight. You are for us or you are against us. CHOOSE! You believe in freedon, democracy, free speech or you believe in the Argentine way.
You CHOOSE and tell your government! There was a time when you had guts!
15 Pussy2000
Jan 16th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You've got it all wrong :- I'm not your mate. Can blog where I want. Britain is just fine. Point made-purpose achieved. Mercosur is irrelevant. Falklands are British. Not from London. Never crawl.
And still ... the Union Jack flies proud and high over these our beautiful and resource rich Falkland Islands and other South Atlantic territories.
Let is see how the Chilean people respond when that oil starts getting shipped past Punta Arenas and into the pockets of Goldman Sachs and Merryl Lynch.
Jan 16th, 2012 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let us see you dictate how the game is played THEN.
Hello Chile. Can you remember your history? Would you like to recall British and Argentine actions in relation to your country? Should you remember British leadership?
Jan 17th, 2012 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem,uk is HIStory!! That is the reality...The empire is gone,never to return...
brits leadership?/ Sure,just follow the UNGA resolutions recomendations.....That would be leadership..HK and Chagos island case: That is what I call“leadership”....c'mon.....Wake up pal!
ManRod 10 - You should bnot say that Uruguay is Argentina's satellite state. Clearly history is not one of your strengths. Please read up on the subject and you'll learn that Uruguay has resisted all kinds of Argentine bullying for over 150 years and remains completely independent, even though the potential invader is only a hundred yards is certain places. For many years the “Darwin” did the Stanley-Montevideo run, even at the time of Perón and his threats. A few days ago President Mujica stated that Uruguay would not support an economic blockade of the Falklands and that the red ensign is welcome at the country's ports, as ever. A week ago HMS Protector was tied up in the Port of Montevideo.
Jan 17th, 2012 - 04:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ignorance will not favour the Falklands cause.
@18dreyfoss,
Jan 17th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0You've lost me with the oil. Are you accusing us of stealing Chile's oil?
@19Malvinero1,
Go back to sleep, signor.
@16Conqueror,
Please don't upset the Chileans, we have quite a good relationship with them. They are an independent respectable nation & they make their own choices. Don't drive them into Argentina's arms.
@11 Beef,
Good comeback! They're always telling us that everyone supports them.
ha ha!
A very significant silence from Mercopress is much more than telling. It claims to cover the whole ofnthenSouth Atlantic and even reports irrelevant news fromthe islands it insists not to call as all ofnthenregion does: Malvinas. However, it purposedly omitsnto mention the article by Simon Winchester recently published in The Times of the UK. Interesting ommission as the article calls the UK to put and end to this colonial situation, sit down and negotiate a “civilised solution” recognising Argentine sovereignty and the need to take into account and guarantee the islanders' interests and way of life. That is to say UN and hence Argentina's position. This article accompanied an opinion column by Argentine FM on this issue. Mercopress is regrettably too biased to speak mthe truth!
Jan 17th, 2012 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ynsere, I wish you'd be right... the facts show something different. Uruguay AS A NATURAL STATE, is a satelite of Argentina, which does not mean that their proud people are, they opose to !
Jan 17th, 2012 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think we are mixing up 2 different things.
But economical/political pressure/dependency from Argentina towards Uruguay is always permanent and Uruguay has few instruments to resist them. I don't think I have to remind you, that Uruguay suffered a similarly severe decrease like Argentina and only BECAUSE of Argentina in 2001, no other state in south america was nearly that affected than Uruguay.
23 Manrod - What on earth are you talking about? What severe disease? If you mean literally, I can only think of foot and mouth disease that came from Paraguay, through Argentina at about that time. I believe this was due only to geographical proximity, although conspiracy-believers said at the time that Argentina had done it on purpose. If you're talking about economic problems ( figuratively a severe disease?), Uruguay has paid her debtors, unlike Argentina, which has still not done so. The only thing you say that is true is that Uruguay has suffered and continues to suffer economic and political pressure from Argentina, but please note that she has always withstood both and will hopefully continue to do. Every Argentine government has had a pronounced bullying attitude, not only against its neighbours but mainly against its own population. For your information, severely ill Islanders and armed forces members are treated in Uruguayan hospitals. Uruguayans like Argentines on an individual basis, but a dozen Argentines together amount to a rabble!
Jan 17th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again, I think you should try to get a grasp of the facts before writing such bollocks.
ynsere, I wrote DECREASE, not disease... Please get some glasses before and read accordingly before you try to ridicule people and fail in the intent to...
Jan 17th, 2012 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have been talking about economical and political processes all the time and I have always stated, that I am not talking about social relationship or behavior of the Uruguayan people. So please save your “disease” humor for yourself and stop distorting my sentences. If that was not your intention, please get some comprehension training. Thank you.
If you are Uruguayan, and might react allergic to any of my sentences before, don't take them as an offense. In no means I have offended Uruguay in order you to show such a “defensive” reaction. I consider Uruguay a proud and great nation, and have only referred that they have resisted the Argentine bullying and are natural satellite (by geographical and economic means, which would be difficult to negate with facts ) so what is your problem?
Argentina appears to have forgotten
Jan 17th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Members of the United Nations also agree that their policy in respect of the territories to which this Chapter applies, no less than in respect of their metropolitan areas, must be based on the general principle of good-neighbourliness, due account being taken of the interests and well-being of the rest of the world, in social, economic, and commercial matters.”
That's Article 74 of the UN Charter. The one that Argentina signed and ratified. And now breaches on a regular basis.
And how can we tell if an argie is lying? It's speaking, typing or writing.
26, enjoy with this
Jan 17th, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1441064-malvinas-el-mercosur-puso-un-limite
25, Uruguay is not a satellite of any country, it is part of South America and, this case, against UK. Falklands doesn´t exist, your are loosing your time building your life in a risk land in South America. Come on People, the last boat is comming....
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1441064-malvinas-el-mercosur-puso-un-limite
As Argentina inevitably continues to try and increase pressure on the Falklands/HM Gov, Argentina's neighbours are going to have to decide how far they can support them.
Jan 17th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Argentina raises the profile of the issue, they also raise the profile of the Islanders who have a very simple message. Unlike Argentina.
As the S. Atlantic continue develope independant of S. America, how relevant is Argentina going to be.
27 Kipling /Falklands doesn´t exist
Jan 17th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if this is so ,, then why are you claiming it,
Kipling /your are loosing your time
and your losing your mind .
Kipling //Come on People, the last boat is comming....
==please can you make sure, you are on it,
29, just Malvinas, nobody recognises u!
Jan 17th, 2012 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0can you understand?
what do u need to understand this situation? no way my friend!
30, Kipling, then why are we still here and why are you in a frenzy over us? We understand the situation perfectly well. Just chill man.
Jan 17th, 2012 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 026#Butt israel signed it as well.It's good not being liked by certain people
Jan 17th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 028# you are dreaming aren't you.The support is growing,for continental security,as well as for other reasons.The current occupiers are depending on a fading power.
Bruce, please, u need to read more and open your mind, do u believe that Argentina doesn ´t want to fight (thru diplomatic reason all around the world) for our right of this Island? do u believe that for more than 180 years we are fighting against UK and we gonna finish the dispute? ...then ...believe... the moment is great for fragil UK that It ´s consequence of stupid belief (oversise territories).
Jan 17th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you have no right,
Jan 17th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your outlook is childish
the falklands are not yours,
you are the ones that refuses the truth,
and the only fighting you will do, is talk
got it .
@19Malvinero1,
Jan 18th, 2012 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Go back to sleep, signor.
Señorita,isolde: You are a failure!
Interesting ommission by Mercopress: it quotes all UK newspapers but The Times. last Saturday it claimed a “civilised solution” must be found tomthis conflict. The author, Simon Winchester established what the solution should be in exactly the same terms as Argentina and the UN: negotiation, dialogue, respect for islanders' interests and way of life and recognition of Argentine sovereignty. It may hurt but it is very sensible as it come to terms with reality, international law and justice. He may write for The Guardian too, so what? This last piece was published in Conservative The Times. It's no use crying over spilt milk!
Jan 18th, 2012 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 036
Jan 18th, 2012 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0the solution should be in exactly the same terms as Argentina and the UN: negotiation, dialogue, respect for islanders' interests and way of life and recognition of Argentine sovereignty.
Think you've got that wrong somewhere and as for Argentina's “respect for the Islanders interests” are we talking about the same Islanders - are we talking about the same Islands.
@27Kipling,
Jan 18th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you a heavy smoker, lad? Not good for you, you know.
@35Malvinero1,
l don't think l'm a failure by any standards & l've got a lot more living to do yet. Why would you say so?
Also,dahling, l am not a señorita.
Isolde you are obviously not a señorita.
Jan 18th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@32 Yuleno
Jan 18th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not me who is dreaming! I see no signs than Chile, Uraguay or Brazil
are prepared to support any stronger action against the Islanders.
Should Rockhopper find a partner, then it's a done deal the S Atlantic will develope completely independant of SA (Argentina anyway), deepwater port, air links anything required will happen.
Argentina continues to alienate the Islanders who only want to decide there own future.
The actions of the Argentine Gov seem designed not to achieve their goal.
Are you sure your not being manupilated.
Would you honestly support a deluded obsessed indoctrinated nutter,
Jan 18th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0who is quite willing to drag the whole of south America into a violent conflict,
Just so this woman and stalk her prey,
Argentina may be stupid, but the rest of S/A certainly is not .
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40#I think you are dreaming.The support is growing while the UK is threatening to break up.
Jan 18th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ok time to grow up,
Jan 18th, 2012 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are men or boys
the gauntlett has been thrown,
pick it up
or run to mummy
@42Yuleno,
Jan 19th, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even if the UK did break up, l am confident that England alone could still take on Argentina & win any war. :-)
England was a powerfull force, long before the unity
Jan 19th, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if it broke up, [it wont]
44# why wouldn't you.isn't that pure English.Don't you also think the others couldn't survive without the English.That's very indicative of what being British really means,doesn't it.
Jan 19th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0britain was the chosen 13th tribe,
Jan 19th, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we are gifted, we are british, we have swarve sophistication
charm, charisma , and the gift of the gab, the world aspires to us,
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
possably possably not,???
@42 Yuleno
Jan 19th, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly what support are you talking about? as I said:
“I see no signs than Chile, Uraguay or Brazil
are prepared to support any stronger action against the Islanders.”
Unless you know different?, and by that I mean more than just vague comments about growing support.
You have as we say “shot your bolt” (done all you can do).
48#I'm afraid you need to do more than that to get a reaction.
Jan 19th, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have a look at the thinking behind Brazilian planning along the line of arms procurement,to defend against satellite status as in the past.
Now when you do,you will see that SA sees a different future for itself.Partly as the Malvinas 82, highlighted that the yanqui where not there with there Monroe doctrine type rhetoric when it wasn't what they wanted.
I think all this is called the balance of power, and it's movements over time.
@49 Yuleno
Jan 20th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You still havent answered the question!
Surprise surprise the British sell defence equipment in SA, in that respect the British probably know more about some of your neigbours capabilities than Argentina does.
The balance of power is always shifting, but predicting its movement short or long term is never more than guesswork. There is always unforseen events. Even if your guess is correct.
Whilst SA is undoubtedly developing (well some parts) to equate this with Argentina some time soon, suddenly getting the power to dictate terms, is not credible reasoning in the first place.
What you completely miss is that the world is moving towards human and democratic rights, including SA (well some parts). In this environment it is going to be increasingly difficult for Argentina to argue it should be allowed to colonise the Falklands.
the falklands are british
Jan 20th, 2012 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0brazil is brazilion
and argentina is alone,
as they say,
you made it////you lay in it .
50# You are answering your own question but,unfortunately,you are trying to say that it is insignificant.At least that's how it sounds.What you don't recognise is that SA is moving to a position where it is self reliant on itself to protect the continent against imperialist dictat.That is significant and especially for the UK.
Jan 20th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@52 Yuleno
Jan 20th, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe it is inevitable SA will come closer together as Europe has done, the economic forces alone are too powerfull for any indivdual country to resist.
However part of this process will be an increasing value on human and democratic rights, by the time SA is united enough to act in concert many in SA will not support any action against the wishes of the Islanders.
The increasing development/power of SA does not mean an increase in support for Argentina on an issue where it is blatently in the wrong.
53 Pugol-H - I hope you're right, but the presidents of Argentina, Ecuador and Venezuela are eating away at democracy with their internal policies designed to restrict freedom of speech. I have the impression things will get worse before they get better. I also believe Mercosur will no longer exist, at least in its present form, in but a few years' time.
Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 053# & 54.What exactly are you talking about.SA is becoming more untied and stronger, both in economic terms and in political terms,and the support for Argentina dispute with the UK is positive.Letting your imagination run away with you,like Ecuador and Venezuela and democracy is a smokescreen to hide what is really happening.It is clear that while SA is strengthening and are cooperating,not being so divided by the yanqui,the UK is becoming more stretch for allies and are becoming increasingly dependant on a imperialist USA.Like a fly struggling to free itself from the web.
Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 055 Yuleno - OK, let's agree to disagree. But if SA is indeed becoming more united (which is what I imagine you meant), why is Argentina always trying to screw Uruguay, and why is Brazil now screwing Argentina? SA unity will be based on trade, not on lip service to the “colonial” ambitions of a far from powerful member.
Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On trade and friendly relations.And of course solidarity.
Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not with a colonial and imperialist country holding on to it ill gotten territory in SA.
As in all families there will be disagreement and none of the countries in SA are in capable of taking care of their own affairs.It's the old empire mentality showing itself thinking that it is an unequal relationship.No country is bossing another country.
But Yuleno, you conveniently forget that Argentina is holding onto ill gotten territory in S.A.
Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your country murdered thousands of native peoples to get ahold of Patagonia & you still occupy Paraguayan land which you stole in 1871.
lf the world ever saw you hand it ALL back, they might consider your ridiculous “claims” in the Falklands.
Don't you love your LatAm Paraguayan brothers? :-)))
You write some rubbish Isolde.be sensible it doesn't suit you being reactionary.But you must find it convenient
Jan 21st, 2012 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 01) Do you deny that Argentina occupies land that was formally part of Paraguay?
Jan 21st, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Land stolen in 1871 after the War of the Triple Alliance.
2) Do you deny that in the Conquest of the Desert, thousands of native people were murdered & Argentine people now inhabit their land?
Then you say that l write “some rubbish”.
ls that because you do not like to be reminded of the colonialist crimes that Argentina comitted?
Then you have the hide to accuse us of being “squatters”!
Your country is a nation of squatters.
Get it through your thick head, this is NOT your land.
lt is OURS & it will stay OURS.
Go away & fix your broken country.
Perhaps Yuleno would also like Argentina to get revenge for the defeat in the Platine war. That was another Argentine failed attempt at a land grab.
Jan 21st, 2012 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isolde.You are trying to be convincing and claiming Argentina occupy's other countries land.Argentina's boundaries as they are,are not controversial to any other country,only to people like you who want to blame Argentina for doing what the British have done.Even on the issue of northern Ireland and gibraltar,colonial possessions that the British occupy,your in ability to defend the UK,is not distracted from by such stupid examples you submit.
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 061# I don't know what your point is,and how it justifies the UK's current position regarding the malvinas
Yuleno,
Jan 23rd, 2012 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0You Argentines try to take the high moral ground & delight in pointing out perceived past failings of the British.
ALL nations have dark stains on their history, including your precious Argentina.
The facts speak for themselves.
1)Argentina took part in the War of the Triple Alliance against Paraguay which ended in 1871.
2)Argentina then annexed/ took over/stole, whatever you like to call it, land that belonged to Paraguay.
THIS IS FACT
3)Argentina started th “War of the Desert” against the native peoples in Patagonia & killed/ murdered/ “liquidated”/ removed from this plane of existence, whatever you like to call it, most of them, solely to steal their land.
THIS IS FACT.
Just because you want it not to be so, doesn't make it go away,IT IS FACT.
l am not “trying” to do any more than show you what a shower of hypocrites that you are.
The British did this or the British did that.....
OR
lt wasn't us...........it was the Junta.
You are not an innocent people, Yuleno
And now of course, you make up all these lies to justify your someehow “right” to the Falklands.
You have NO RIGHTS in the Falklands, Yuleno.
IT IS NOT YOUR LAND.
If you are confident, take it to the ICJ,
Jan 23rd, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If not forget it.
The islands will remain British .
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