In an article published today the Foreign Secretary William Hague sets out why the future of the Falkland Islands can only be decided by its people themselves. Read full article
Sure but the South American want their turf for them..not for you,uk...
He saidWhatever political differences there may be between UK and South America on our sovereignty of the Falklands, we have with Brazil and other partners a relationship where we can discuss them honestly, and address them in the context of international law and respect for the human rights of the Islanders.
Sure Mr hague,but we want to sahre the resources with the Chileans,Uruguayan,Brazilians and Argentines,what happens to be living in the South Atlantic.....Any Extracontinental powers...Out.....
Yes, WH points out that Argentina is alone in wanting to make trouble. The more CFK ramps up the tension, the more we all know she is trying to hide the growing problems in the country. She will embarrass herself and the good people of Argentina.
Argentina is a boil that should lance itself: it will be messy but it will clear up. A potentially skilful artisan who blames others outside the country for the standard of its workmanship.
No use blogging further about this situation: it's all been said. The Falklands are a scapegoat, and that's what it will remain so long as this present government rules Argentina.
The article was without doubt a statement of the real history of the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) for the world to see, as distinct from the lies and obfuscation of the Government of Argentina.
It also offers an olive branch to them: start to mend the damage you are achieving to your own ambitions in the Southern Hemisphere and the World in general. Ignoring this olive branch will just deepen the view, certainly within the EU and the USA, that the Argentine Government hold childish, unsubstantiated views, about themselves being World Leaders.
This article is purelly for internal british consumption. falklands flag in Mercosur ports? No way, just use the same flag that uses britain in europe.
The traditional British newspaper The Times, which usually reads the Queen Elizabeth II, published in a full page opinion column Timerman entitled “The UK has to talk now to end this nineteenth-century imperial hangover” with that of British journalist Simon Winchester
Thought Winchester was one of those wet, left wing, liberal Americans, the type most Americans and a growing number of Brits despise.
When he was in Argentina during the first Falklands War, you gimps liked him so much you locked him up for 3 months. This time no doubt you will welcome him with a snog from old turkey neck and let him inspect your army, navy and airforce. A copy of your latest invasion plans might be of interest as well but on second thoughts, I think we already have a copy of those.
Hague said he sees no regional appetite for joining Argentina in its attempts to damage the Falkland Islands’ economy or target the livelihoods of Islanders.
HA! - that will soon change when that oil starts coming out of the ground - which raises an interesting question:
How much of that oil will britain grab now that it's contribution to the euro bail-out fund has risen..... again.
After all - isnt the Falklands part of the European Union?
According to Mrs.Ashton it is an overseas territory and dependency of britain and is thus part of the european union so naturally it will be expected to stump up some of that oil as part of britain's contribution to the euro bail out fund which will probably reach a gazillion $ by April 1st.
hehe
@ 13 be serious
Winchester was one of those wet, left wing, liberal Americans, the type most Americans and a growing number of Brits despise
Errrrrrrr...ahem -
Simon Winchester, OBE, a British writer, journalist and broadcaster, was born in north London on 28th September 1944, the only child of Bernard and Andrée Winchester (née deWael).
Errrrrrrr...ahem -
Simon Winchester, OBE, a British writer, journalist and broadcaster, was born in north London on 28th September 1944, the only child of Bernard and Andrée Winchester (née deWael).
woopsy daisy..
On July 4, 2011, Winchester was naturalized as a United States citizen in a ceremony aboard the USS Constitution
woopsy daisy
Ah, I see the argie high command, has sent out, only the junior bloggers today,
While they re-indoctrinate the elders,
As long as /and longer CFK just uses her lips to move,
This gives other more time to prepare,, but like all 3rd world fools, they tell us before they do it,
She has no intension of doing nothing, but gets noticed by the TV, ready for her next career,
As soon as she has made you lot look stupid, she will make her excuses and retire, and become a part time actress, writer, or TV celebrity
As for you lot,
Allow me to express CFK commiserations to you in advance,
[Bye]
Kippers - you have Russia and China???? What do you mean? Are you now claiming soverignty over Russia and China?
Considering how many Russians and Chinese are in the UK (and spending their miney) compared to the numbers in Argentina then I don't think your fantasy of a Sino-Russian invasion of the FI will happen. Do you?
It will be very interesting to see how CFK & Co respond to this. So far they have issued rebutals to everything HM Gov have said allbeit with rhetoric. Here WH directly adresses the history for the first time, set piece in play.
Nice to see a politician getting his history right. In fact, I cannot remember a politician actually refering as much to the history of the isands before. Must have had help :-)
Totally off topic here, but Mike Summers just popped up on facebook letting us know he'll be debating with Peter Preston tomorrow, 7.15 Falklands (Stanley) time on Radio 5 Live. Should be very entertaining.
21 stick up your junta
Simon Winchester, OBE, a British writer, journalist and broadcaster, was born in north London on 28th September 1944, the only child of Bernard and Andrée Winchester (née deWael).
On July 4, 2011, Winchester was naturalized as a United States citizen in a ceremony aboard the USS Constitution
woopsy daisy
31 Lord Ton
Absolutely classic. What an idiot. Shame Sharon Halford isn't in the clip- she was part of the debate too and everyone said she was very good.
Well written article and it puts the UK message up front and clear as long as the Falklanders wish to remain British they can have all the Protection that is required to defend there Human Rights!!!
The argentines can just keep dreaming of the make believe malvenass!!
Argentina alleges that Britain took the Falklands by force in 1833...
Ok then, so, take it back by force! What cry babies.
Organize a Mercosur Army and take it back.
As this dispute becomes more confrontational and escalate into a full-blown conflict watch Argentina's friends in the region run for the hills.
Speaking of which, when war breaks out, and it can't since Argentina doesn't have a military and the UK still very much does (how DUMB can you be Argies?) you will be able to find Timerman and Randozzo hiding under the furniture.
Oh, wait, I have an idea.
Why don't you Argies try to occupy the Falklands while International community occupies Argentina?
How's that sound.
Of course, it is already happening.
Puerto Madero in BA is the most important commercial center in the country.
Very little of this is being done BY Argentina FOR Argentina.
It is simply being done IN Argentina.
THIS boys and girls, is the future of this region. Get used to it.
Ah, and I can't resist commenting on this.....
we are full of satisfaction at the support being built by the rest of the world,” Randazzo said.we are full of satisfaction at the support being built by the rest of the world,” Randazzo said.
Argentina is loathed throughout the International community.
As one Argentina acquaintance once said to me about her country,
We hate the world and the world hates us.”
That's true. By and large they are a not a well-liked people in the world.
And do you know why?
They are not likable.
One can easily dismiss Randozzo's comment as more hot air, the accumulation of which is only going to contribute to the inevitable evaporation of his country.
Im thinking of making the master of my future in one only one caribbean island. Ill go there with some arms and friends, allow to enter only my firendds, expelled the population put my flag with the photo of my pet in one corner and proclaim my country sovereignity. If anyone else that lived there before claims it, I say that according to what I think and Im very fond to my oppinnion Im entitled to do what I want there, with the resources, with the land and of course they are argentinian for the generations of generations, because people of caribe cannot enter to live in my isles. Ive always thought that sovereignity over caribe would be better than having to pay the estadía there.
get all the oil please, and go away to your first world.
south americans for southamericans
Quite right old chap,
Rest assured when you put the argentine flag on top of the white house,
The world will know who Argentina really is,
Sky blue on top
Sky blue on the bottom, and a telly tubbier in the middle,
Yep, it wont be long now, the argentine imagination knows no bounds .
South America is South America! Malvinas are South America too. For ever and ever! British no south America! Malvinas is south america! So? Go home british!
You talk like Cortez! But, in this time no more Cortez! You can learn about South America. Southamericans are apaixonados for live, dignity and democracy....like romans, and greeks!
Both societies based on slavery and conquest. Even in the Athenian democracy the vote only extend to Homi or those of equal status, the rest were slaves.
You think I talk like Cortez, you are the decendant of Cortez still running the family business.
I dont agree, sorry. Malvinas belong Argentina. Your resources belong argentina. And 3 thousands of peoples...belong England. England stay in Europe...not here. England make war for 3 thousands? England want to have one enemy like South America? NATO? hehehehe. Poland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Ukraine....and BRIC....China, Rússia....they go to NATO too. I doubt. This world no more England or only cause. Peace. Learn our language, castellano. Learn all about us. Live like south american. Live like argentinians!
I am a portuguese in coração. Our real family is single. Our territory, our language, our culture, our modus operandi, YES, we are portuguese in América....in Brazil!!
We aore ONE!!! Brazil, Argentina, Uruguai, Paraguai, Venezuela, Peru, Colômbia, Equador, Suriname, Guiana, Chile....WE ARE ONE!!!!
jes suis desolee !!!!!!!
French Guiana is an overseas region of France, consisting of a single overseas department located on the northern Atlantic coast of South America
poor Brasileiro! another indocrinated brain washed fool,
sadly his brain extends only as far as his skull,
and all the time forgets to basic fact of freedom,
they fought for their freedom, and now try to deny it to others,
argentina sadly will pay a very high price for her stupidity,
and despite some bloggers aiding them in their quest, brazil will do nothing, she has everything to gain, and evrything to lose,
south America may be united, in name only, but make no mistake,
brazil is top dog, the rest are puppies, and as long as you argies are willing to be puppies, then carry on with you insults and wimper.
Guaraná is very tipycal in Brasil, but to drink it.
Guaraní is more tipycal of Paraguay, although you can find communities in south of Brazil and north of Argentina, you know that in Paraguay they speak both spanish and guaraní language and they have more identity with guaraní culture.
Brasil had other communnities like caraibas, panos, guaicurús etc and many of them were killed but many others also mixed with portuguese. then came black people they brought from africa to make slaves and they also mixed (mulato, mameluco, etc). Brasil is a great mestizaje. as all america.
Britain took formal possession of the islands in 1765, establishing various settlements over the next half century before the independent state of Argentina came into being...................... CFK does not understand this simple fact !
Such a good job Argentina once again and again! The whole world speaks of the sovereignty dispute all the time, gets to know the truth and becomes aware of Argentina's peaceful stance and growing support. This is exactly the least that the UK expects: the existence of the dispute and the need to solve it cannot be no longer hidden or denied! Come to terms with it UK both in London and your colony!
I am glad UK wants to give the illegal aliens rights in their jurisdiction.the real question is when are the brits going back to claim their rights in UK.
The above article gives the correct historical facts (which are generally very different from those taught in Argentine schools). The Argentinean government need to respect the rights of the Islanders to self determination. The Argentinean government has signed up to this specific right at the UN so I am puzzled as to why they are changing course on this matter. You can’t have it both ways. When will you realise that the Islanders have been there since before Argentina existed and that if you just respected that and tried to forge a relationship with them then you would benefit, after all, Buenos Aires is the closest major port. The UK isn’t going to allow another invasion, there are 3000 troops permanently stationed there (at the request of the inhabitants) and they will only discuss sovereignty if it is in the context of asking the Islanders what they wish.
If the Argentinean government really wants to discuss sovereignty with regards to the Falklands, then I suggest that, firstly, the Argentinean government enter into negotiations about giving back the southern part of Bolivia which they stole all those years ago. Whilst doing this they should also enter into talks with Chile about disputed borders and possibly even Uruguay/Paraguay. Also, whilst you're sorting this out, how about an official government apology for the mass genocide committed against the native population by general Roca and others...
@71 Welsh Wizard,
All this has been pointed out to them before but they just ignore what they don't like.
l think that they are genuinely shocked at being called colonialists.
But thats what they are.
Many of them scream about us not wanting to go to the ICJ.
But they wouldn't respect the court's ruling if it went against them.
lt really hurts their pride that they were defeated in 1982.
They seem incapable of moving on. They have to get even
We've lost plenty of battles & wars, but we've won more.
Hopefully we learn from our mistakes(sometimes l wonder about that!).
They just have to win ALL the time. NO-ONE wins all the time.
You suggestions are good but the Argentines will dismiss ALL of them without even a raised eyebrow.
I invite ours brothers from South....come to invade Falklands. 1000000 of peoples from south. I invite! In boats,,,in boats, like Cubans!
Pacific invasion! Stanley will be latin! Thousands boats! The summer is now! We go to Malvinas! Pacific invasion!!!
Brasileiro, several parts of those islands are peppered with landmines, a gift from the Argentinians before their final defeat. Therefore, even in the summer those islands are not a good place for frolicking trespassers.
As to Cubans, the only boats on which they are eager to embark are those going from Cuba to Florida. Besides, when they happen to reach their desperately sought destination, they invariably arrive there as immigrants rather than as settlers. Do you understand the difference?
From a Brazilian to another: you are embarrassing our country. Could you please stop spouting ungrammatical nonsense?
Isolde, you are right. Brasileiro's behaviour matches perfectly the stereotype of Brazilians as an incoherent and overemotive lot, which is precisely what a poorly travelled Argentinian would employ in a forum like this.
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Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what a well written and factual correct article.
Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agree with you my Irish friend....
Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anytime you want to visit me,O'gara,I live in Argentina north,and I will take to a nice Irish pub...
Cheers
lol.... o gormless is about as paddy as the islands belong to the argies ;)
Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure but the South American want their turf for them..not for you,uk...
Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He saidWhatever political differences there may be between UK and South America on our sovereignty of the Falklands, we have with Brazil and other partners a relationship where we can discuss them honestly, and address them in the context of international law and respect for the human rights of the Islanders.
Sure Mr hague,but we want to sahre the resources with the Chileans,Uruguayan,Brazilians and Argentines,what happens to be living in the South Atlantic.....Any Extracontinental powers...Out.....
Yes, WH points out that Argentina is alone in wanting to make trouble. The more CFK ramps up the tension, the more we all know she is trying to hide the growing problems in the country. She will embarrass herself and the good people of Argentina.
Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is a boil that should lance itself: it will be messy but it will clear up. A potentially skilful artisan who blames others outside the country for the standard of its workmanship.
Jan 21st, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No use blogging further about this situation: it's all been said. The Falklands are a scapegoat, and that's what it will remain so long as this present government rules Argentina.
The article was without doubt a statement of the real history of the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) for the world to see, as distinct from the lies and obfuscation of the Government of Argentina.
Jan 21st, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It also offers an olive branch to them: start to mend the damage you are achieving to your own ambitions in the Southern Hemisphere and the World in general. Ignoring this olive branch will just deepen the view, certainly within the EU and the USA, that the Argentine Government hold childish, unsubstantiated views, about themselves being World Leaders.
This article is purelly for internal british consumption. falklands flag in Mercosur ports? No way, just use the same flag that uses britain in europe.
Jan 21st, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The traditional British newspaper The Times, which usually reads the Queen Elizabeth II, published in a full page opinion column Timerman entitled “The UK has to talk now to end this nineteenth-century imperial hangover” with that of British journalist Simon Winchester
Jan 21st, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.acercandonaciones.com/en/diplomacia/instan-en-el-diario-que-lee-la-reina-a-dialogar-por-malvinas.html
Not surprisingly Mercopress had forgotten and omitted to inform on Winchester's column...
Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0stop British colonialism. return the islands, uk get out of america
Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thought Winchester was one of those wet, left wing, liberal Americans, the type most Americans and a growing number of Brits despise.
Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When he was in Argentina during the first Falklands War, you gimps liked him so much you locked him up for 3 months. This time no doubt you will welcome him with a snog from old turkey neck and let him inspect your army, navy and airforce. A copy of your latest invasion plans might be of interest as well but on second thoughts, I think we already have a copy of those.
Hague said he sees no regional appetite for joining Argentina in its attempts to damage the Falkland Islands’ economy or target the livelihoods of Islanders.
Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HA! - that will soon change when that oil starts coming out of the ground - which raises an interesting question:
How much of that oil will britain grab now that it's contribution to the euro bail-out fund has risen..... again.
After all - isnt the Falklands part of the European Union?
According to Mrs.Ashton it is an overseas territory and dependency of britain and is thus part of the european union so naturally it will be expected to stump up some of that oil as part of britain's contribution to the euro bail out fund which will probably reach a gazillion $ by April 1st.
hehe
14 dreyfoss:
Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong.
@ 13 be serious
Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Winchester was one of those wet, left wing, liberal Americans, the type most Americans and a growing number of Brits despise
Errrrrrrr...ahem -
Simon Winchester, OBE, a British writer, journalist and broadcaster, was born in north London on 28th September 1944, the only child of Bernard and Andrée Winchester (née deWael).
woopsy daisy..
Hague, u are so decadent (as UK).
Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0SO FUNNY!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308240/Why-did-William-Hague-feel-need-divulge-much.html
Come on people, US wants to discuss about the sovereignty!
@ be serious
Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hague is sending the Royal navy in the wrong direction...
He should be firing his torpedos at the british press
lol
18, NO WORRY, WE HAVE Russian and China.... My Friend, wait!
Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Kipling - If
Jan 21st, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Errrrrrrr...ahem -
Jan 21st, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simon Winchester, OBE, a British writer, journalist and broadcaster, was born in north London on 28th September 1944, the only child of Bernard and Andrée Winchester (née deWael).
woopsy daisy..
On July 4, 2011, Winchester was naturalized as a United States citizen in a ceremony aboard the USS Constitution
woopsy daisy
Ah, I see the argie high command, has sent out, only the junior bloggers today,
Jan 21st, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While they re-indoctrinate the elders,
As long as /and longer CFK just uses her lips to move,
This gives other more time to prepare,, but like all 3rd world fools, they tell us before they do it,
She has no intension of doing nothing, but gets noticed by the TV, ready for her next career,
As soon as she has made you lot look stupid, she will make her excuses and retire, and become a part time actress, writer, or TV celebrity
As for you lot,
Allow me to express CFK commiserations to you in advance,
[Bye]
.
22
Jan 21st, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Briton, very poor sport today I'm afraid.
Kippers - you have Russia and China???? What do you mean? Are you now claiming soverignty over Russia and China?
Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Considering how many Russians and Chinese are in the UK (and spending their miney) compared to the numbers in Argentina then I don't think your fantasy of a Sino-Russian invasion of the FI will happen. Do you?
It will be very interesting to see how CFK & Co respond to this. So far they have issued rebutals to everything HM Gov have said allbeit with rhetoric. Here WH directly adresses the history for the first time, set piece in play.
Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice to see a politician getting his history right. In fact, I cannot remember a politician actually refering as much to the history of the isands before. Must have had help :-)
Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvina Vernet y Sáez http://cilley.net/thecilleypages/cilley-en-o/p242.htm
Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and as you would expect from a gentleman,
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0not an insult in sight,
unlike the uneducated riff raff, later .
Totally off topic here, but Mike Summers just popped up on facebook letting us know he'll be debating with Peter Preston tomorrow, 7.15 Falklands (Stanley) time on Radio 5 Live. Should be very entertaining.
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 021 stick up your junta
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Simon Winchester, OBE, a British writer, journalist and broadcaster, was born in north London on 28th September 1944, the only child of Bernard and Andrée Winchester (née deWael).
On July 4, 2011, Winchester was naturalized as a United States citizen in a ceremony aboard the USS Constitution
woopsy daisy
He's still one of yours mate LOL
Sky News went well - is that the Professor rumoured to be the next Ambassador ??
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smzf6GME6Lk
He's still one of yours mate LOL
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0People in the UK are allowed to express there opinions, even if most disagree with them.
It's still, just an opinion.
31 Lord Ton
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Absolutely classic. What an idiot. Shame Sharon Halford isn't in the clip- she was part of the debate too and everyone said she was very good.
@31 .... if that is an intellegent RG what hope for the rest of them....
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0He's still one of yours mate LOL
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0So James Peck is not a argie then?
Love it, Lord Ton.
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0That professor is a real dipstick
Well written article and it puts the UK message up front and clear as long as the Falklanders wish to remain British they can have all the Protection that is required to defend there Human Rights!!!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0The argentines can just keep dreaming of the make believe malvenass!!
Long Live the Falklands.
Down with argentine Colonialism.
Argie bloggers
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That’s
Argentine Colonialism
.
Argentina alleges that Britain took the Falklands by force in 1833...
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok then, so, take it back by force! What cry babies.
Organize a Mercosur Army and take it back.
As this dispute becomes more confrontational and escalate into a full-blown conflict watch Argentina's friends in the region run for the hills.
Speaking of which, when war breaks out, and it can't since Argentina doesn't have a military and the UK still very much does (how DUMB can you be Argies?) you will be able to find Timerman and Randozzo hiding under the furniture.
Oh, wait, I have an idea.
Why don't you Argies try to occupy the Falklands while International community occupies Argentina?
How's that sound.
Of course, it is already happening.
Puerto Madero in BA is the most important commercial center in the country.
Very little of this is being done BY Argentina FOR Argentina.
It is simply being done IN Argentina.
THIS boys and girls, is the future of this region. Get used to it.
Ah, and I can't resist commenting on this.....
we are full of satisfaction at the support being built by the rest of the world,” Randazzo said.we are full of satisfaction at the support being built by the rest of the world,” Randazzo said.
Argentina is loathed throughout the International community.
As one Argentina acquaintance once said to me about her country,
We hate the world and the world hates us.”
That's true. By and large they are a not a well-liked people in the world.
And do you know why?
They are not likable.
One can easily dismiss Randozzo's comment as more hot air, the accumulation of which is only going to contribute to the inevitable evaporation of his country.
Im thinking of making the master of my future in one only one caribbean island. Ill go there with some arms and friends, allow to enter only my firendds, expelled the population put my flag with the photo of my pet in one corner and proclaim my country sovereignity. If anyone else that lived there before claims it, I say that according to what I think and Im very fond to my oppinnion Im entitled to do what I want there, with the resources, with the land and of course they are argentinian for the generations of generations, because people of caribe cannot enter to live in my isles. Ive always thought that sovereignity over caribe would be better than having to pay the estadía there.
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0get all the oil please, and go away to your first world.
south americans for southamericans
Quite right old chap,
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rest assured when you put the argentine flag on top of the white house,
The world will know who Argentina really is,
Sky blue on top
Sky blue on the bottom, and a telly tubbier in the middle,
Yep, it wont be long now, the argentine imagination knows no bounds .
@40 malen
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0south americans for southamericans - we agree with you.
But
The South Atlantic is British, and no more a part of S America than the Caribean is part of S America.
South America to south americans! Malvinas belong Argentina!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands/South Atlantic are British. Get uesd to it and try getting along with your neigbours.
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasileiro - Actually understood you this time, keep it up!
We aore ONE!!! Brazil, Argentina, Uruguai, Paraguai, Venezuela, Peru, Colômbia, Equador, Suriname, Guiana, Chile....WE ARE ONE!!!!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One continent yes, which the falkland/S Atlantic is not a part of.
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you read the article above you will learn that the British have been there since before Argentina or Brazil ever existed. (did you read it)
And we are staying, with as much right to be there as you have to be in SA.
Like I said better get used to it, there is nothing you can do about it.
South America is South America! Malvinas are South America too. For ever and ever! British no south America! Malvinas is south america! So? Go home british!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is our home, since before you stole yours from the Indians
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You talk like Cortez! But, in this time no more Cortez! You can learn about South America. Southamericans are apaixonados for live, dignity and democracy....like romans, and greeks!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0like romans, and greeks!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both societies based on slavery and conquest. Even in the Athenian democracy the vote only extend to Homi or those of equal status, the rest were slaves.
You think I talk like Cortez, you are the decendant of Cortez still running the family business.
Really? Do you think that?
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you sound like one of those rampant rabbits in action,
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0listen carefully,
argentina may own south America,
but the falklands are british,
if you stop being anti for one second and key ya brain,
ya might unlock something interesting .
I dont agree, sorry. Malvinas belong Argentina. Your resources belong argentina. And 3 thousands of peoples...belong England. England stay in Europe...not here. England make war for 3 thousands? England want to have one enemy like South America? NATO? hehehehe. Poland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Ukraine....and BRIC....China, Rússia....they go to NATO too. I doubt. This world no more England or only cause. Peace. Learn our language, castellano. Learn all about us. Live like south american. Live like argentinians!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well then you belong Portugal Brasileiro. When you go back?
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am a portuguese in coração. Our real family is single. Our territory, our language, our culture, our modus operandi, YES, we are portuguese in América....in Brazil!!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see they have complete, raving, hypocritical nutters in Brasil, as well as Argentina.
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasileiro, Thank you for confirming that you are a Portuguese colonialist. We are grateful for your honesty.
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We aore ONE!!! Brazil, Argentina, Uruguai, Paraguai, Venezuela, Peru, Colômbia, Equador, Suriname, Guiana, Chile....WE ARE ONE!!!!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0jes suis desolee !!!!!!!
French Guiana is an overseas region of France, consisting of a single overseas department located on the northern Atlantic coast of South America
Brazil, stolen from the Guaraní. Go back home to Portugal Brasileiro!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0poor Brasileiro! another indocrinated brain washed fool,
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sadly his brain extends only as far as his skull,
and all the time forgets to basic fact of freedom,
they fought for their freedom, and now try to deny it to others,
argentina sadly will pay a very high price for her stupidity,
and despite some bloggers aiding them in their quest, brazil will do nothing, she has everything to gain, and evrything to lose,
south America may be united, in name only, but make no mistake,
brazil is top dog, the rest are puppies, and as long as you argies are willing to be puppies, then carry on with you insults and wimper.
1/3 of the planet stolen by the English....now you have to give it back.
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All of Argentina stolen from the Natives..........now you have to give it back. Hypocrite!
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guaraná is very tipycal in Brasil, but to drink it.
Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guaraní is more tipycal of Paraguay, although you can find communities in south of Brazil and north of Argentina, you know that in Paraguay they speak both spanish and guaraní language and they have more identity with guaraní culture.
Brasil had other communnities like caraibas, panos, guaicurús etc and many of them were killed but many others also mixed with portuguese. then came black people they brought from africa to make slaves and they also mixed (mulato, mameluco, etc). Brasil is a great mestizaje. as all america.
Britain took formal possession of the islands in 1765, establishing various settlements over the next half century before the independent state of Argentina came into being...................... CFK does not understand this simple fact !
Jan 23rd, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Such a good job Argentina once again and again! The whole world speaks of the sovereignty dispute all the time, gets to know the truth and becomes aware of Argentina's peaceful stance and growing support. This is exactly the least that the UK expects: the existence of the dispute and the need to solve it cannot be no longer hidden or denied! Come to terms with it UK both in London and your colony!
Jan 23rd, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alejomartinez, another cut & paste expert!
Jan 23rd, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still funny though. the WHOLE WORLD! Ha ha ha ha, ldiota!
I have jus replied to some Argie idiot on another topic with exactly the same nonsense.
Jan 23rd, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you all using the same brain cell today?
gets to know the truth and becomes aware of Argentina's peaceful stance
Jan 23rd, 2012 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and now you test launch the PCX-2009, MISSILE
YEP VERY PEACEFULL
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I am glad UK wants to give the illegal aliens rights in their jurisdiction.the real question is when are the brits going back to claim their rights in UK.
Jan 24th, 2012 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pirat-Hunter anti anti tut tut .
Jan 24th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The above article gives the correct historical facts (which are generally very different from those taught in Argentine schools). The Argentinean government need to respect the rights of the Islanders to self determination. The Argentinean government has signed up to this specific right at the UN so I am puzzled as to why they are changing course on this matter. You can’t have it both ways. When will you realise that the Islanders have been there since before Argentina existed and that if you just respected that and tried to forge a relationship with them then you would benefit, after all, Buenos Aires is the closest major port. The UK isn’t going to allow another invasion, there are 3000 troops permanently stationed there (at the request of the inhabitants) and they will only discuss sovereignty if it is in the context of asking the Islanders what they wish.
Jan 25th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the Argentinean government really wants to discuss sovereignty with regards to the Falklands, then I suggest that, firstly, the Argentinean government enter into negotiations about giving back the southern part of Bolivia which they stole all those years ago. Whilst doing this they should also enter into talks with Chile about disputed borders and possibly even Uruguay/Paraguay. Also, whilst you're sorting this out, how about an official government apology for the mass genocide committed against the native population by general Roca and others...
@71 Welsh Wizard,
Jan 26th, 2012 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0All this has been pointed out to them before but they just ignore what they don't like.
l think that they are genuinely shocked at being called colonialists.
But thats what they are.
Many of them scream about us not wanting to go to the ICJ.
But they wouldn't respect the court's ruling if it went against them.
lt really hurts their pride that they were defeated in 1982.
They seem incapable of moving on. They have to get even
We've lost plenty of battles & wars, but we've won more.
Hopefully we learn from our mistakes(sometimes l wonder about that!).
They just have to win ALL the time. NO-ONE wins all the time.
You suggestions are good but the Argentines will dismiss ALL of them without even a raised eyebrow.
I invite ours brothers from South....come to invade Falklands. 1000000 of peoples from south. I invite! In boats,,,in boats, like Cubans!
Jan 26th, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pacific invasion! Stanley will be latin! Thousands boats! The summer is now! We go to Malvinas! Pacific invasion!!!
this indocrinated child is an idiot of the hight ,
Jan 26th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0childish or what .
Brasileiro, several parts of those islands are peppered with landmines, a gift from the Argentinians before their final defeat. Therefore, even in the summer those islands are not a good place for frolicking trespassers.
Jan 26th, 2012 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As to Cubans, the only boats on which they are eager to embark are those going from Cuba to Florida. Besides, when they happen to reach their desperately sought destination, they invariably arrive there as immigrants rather than as settlers. Do you understand the difference?
From a Brazilian to another: you are embarrassing our country. Could you please stop spouting ungrammatical nonsense?
@75 ljordao,
Jan 26th, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe he isn't a Brazilian.
Just an Argentine trying to show that they have Brazilian support.
Well, he has [5] holes, and judging by what comes out of the middle hole
Jan 26th, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You may well be correct.
Isolde, you are right. Brasileiro's behaviour matches perfectly the stereotype of Brazilians as an incoherent and overemotive lot, which is precisely what a poorly travelled Argentinian would employ in a forum like this.
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