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“Only the Falkland Islanders can be the masters of their future”

Saturday, January 21st 2012 - 15:19 UTC
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In an article published today the Foreign Secretary William Hague sets out why the future of the Falkland Islands can only be decided by its people themselves. Read full article

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  • O gara

    The WASP alliance appears in trouble Obama calls for dialogue.

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nightingale

    what a well written and factual correct article.

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Agree with you my Irish friend....
    Anytime you want to visit me,O'gara,I live in Argentina north,and I will take to a nice Irish pub...
    Cheers

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nightingale

    lol.... o gormless is about as paddy as the islands belong to the argies ;)

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Sure but the South American want their turf for them..not for you,uk...
    He saidWhatever political differences there may be between UK and South America on our sovereignty of the Falklands, we have with Brazil and other partners a relationship where we can discuss them honestly, and address them in the context of international law and respect for the human rights of the Islanders.

    Sure Mr hague,but we want to sahre the resources with the Chileans,Uruguayan,Brazilians and Argentines,what happens to be living in the South Atlantic.....Any Extracontinental powers...Out.....

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Yes, WH points out that Argentina is alone in wanting to make trouble. The more CFK ramps up the tension, the more we all know she is trying to hide the growing problems in the country. She will embarrass herself and the good people of Argentina.

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Argentina is a boil that should lance itself: it will be messy but it will clear up. A potentially skilful artisan who blames others outside the country for the standard of its workmanship.
    No use blogging further about this situation: it's all been said. The Falklands are a scapegoat, and that's what it will remain so long as this present government rules Argentina.

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    The article was without doubt a statement of the real history of the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) for the world to see, as distinct from the lies and obfuscation of the Government of Argentina.

    It also offers an olive branch to them: start to mend the damage you are achieving to your own ambitions in the Southern Hemisphere and the World in general. Ignoring this olive branch will just deepen the view, certainly within the EU and the USA, that the Argentine Government hold childish, unsubstantiated views, about themselves being World Leaders.

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Liberato

    This article is purelly for internal british consumption. “falklands” flag in Mercosur ports? No way, just use the same flag that uses britain in europe.

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “The traditional British newspaper The Times, which usually reads the Queen Elizabeth II, published in a full page opinion column Timerman entitled “The UK has to talk now to end this nineteenth-century imperial hangover” with that of British journalist Simon Winchester”

    http://www.acercandonaciones.com/en/diplomacia/instan-en-el-diario-que-lee-la-reina-a-dialogar-por-malvinas.html

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alejomartinez

    Not surprisingly Mercopress had forgotten and omitted to inform on Winchester's column...

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cero

    stop British colonialism. return the islands, uk get out of america

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Thought Winchester was one of those wet, left wing, liberal Americans, the type most Americans and a growing number of Brits despise.
    When he was in Argentina during the first Falklands War, you gimps liked him so much you locked him up for 3 months. This time no doubt you will welcome him with a snog from old turkey neck and let him inspect your army, navy and airforce. A copy of your latest invasion plans might be of interest as well but on second thoughts, I think we already have a copy of those.

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    “Hague said he sees no regional appetite for joining Argentina in its attempts to damage the Falkland Islands’ economy or target the livelihoods of Islanders.”
    HA! - that will soon change when that oil starts coming out of the ground - which raises an interesting question:
    How much of that oil will britain grab now that it's contribution to the euro bail-out fund has risen..... again.
    After all - isnt the Falklands part of the European Union?
    According to Mrs.Ashton it is an overseas territory and dependency of britain and is thus part of the european union so naturally it will be expected to stump up some of that oil as part of britain's contribution to the euro bail out fund which will probably reach a gazillion $ by April 1st.
    hehe

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    14 dreyfoss:

    Wrong.

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    @ 13 be serious
    “Winchester was one of those wet, left wing, liberal Americans, the type most Americans and a growing number of Brits despise”
    Errrrrrrr...ahem -
    Simon Winchester, OBE, a British writer, journalist and broadcaster, was born in north London on 28th September 1944, the only child of Bernard and Andrée Winchester (née deWael).

    woopsy daisy..

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    Hague, u are so decadent (as UK).
    SO FUNNY!
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308240/Why-did-William-Hague-feel-need-divulge-much.html
    Come on people, US wants to discuss about the sovereignty!

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    @ be serious
    Hague is sending the Royal navy in the wrong direction...
    He should be firing his torpedos at the british press
    lol

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    18, NO WORRY, WE HAVE Russian and China.... My Friend, wait!

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viva Las Falklands

    @ Kipling - “If”

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Errrrrrrr...ahem -
    Simon Winchester, OBE, a British writer, journalist and broadcaster, was born in north London on 28th September 1944, the only child of Bernard and Andrée Winchester (née deWael).

    woopsy daisy..

    On July 4, 2011, Winchester was naturalized as a United States citizen in a ceremony aboard the USS Constitution
    woopsy daisy

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Ah, I see the argie high command, has sent out, only the junior bloggers today,
    While they re-indoctrinate the elders,
    As long as /and longer CFK just uses her lips to move,
    This gives other more time to prepare,, but like all 3rd world fools, they tell us before they do it,
    She has no intension of doing nothing, but gets noticed by the TV, ready for her next career,
    As soon as she has made you lot look stupid, she will make her excuses and retire, and become a part time actress, writer, or TV celebrity
    As for you lot,
    Allow me to express CFK commiserations to you in advance,
    [Bye]

    .

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    22
    Yes Briton, very poor sport today I'm afraid.

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Kippers - you have Russia and China???? What do you mean? Are you now claiming soverignty over Russia and China?

    Considering how many Russians and Chinese are in the UK (and spending their miney) compared to the numbers in Argentina then I don't think your fantasy of a Sino-Russian invasion of the FI will happen. Do you?

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    It will be very interesting to see how CFK & Co respond to this. So far they have issued rebutals to everything HM Gov have said allbeit with rhetoric. Here WH directly adresses the history for the first time, set piece in play.

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Nice to see a politician getting his history right. In fact, I cannot remember a politician actually refering as much to the history of the isands before. Must have had help :-)

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TALDY

    Malvina Vernet y Sáez http://cilley.net/thecilleypages/cilley-en-o/p242.htm

    Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    and as you would expect from a gentleman,
    not an insult in sight,
    unlike the uneducated riff raff, later .

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    Totally off topic here, but Mike Summers just popped up on facebook letting us know he'll be debating with Peter Preston tomorrow, 7.15 Falklands (Stanley) time on Radio 5 Live. Should be very entertaining.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    21 stick up your junta
    Simon Winchester, OBE, a British writer, journalist and broadcaster, was born in north London on 28th September 1944, the only child of Bernard and Andrée Winchester (née deWael).

    On July 4, 2011, Winchester was naturalized as a United States citizen in a ceremony aboard the USS Constitution
    woopsy daisy

    He's still one of yours mate LOL

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Sky News went well - is that the Professor rumoured to be the next Ambassador ??

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smzf6GME6Lk

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    “He's still one of yours mate LOL”

    People in the UK are allowed to express there opinions, even if most disagree with them.

    It's still, just an opinion.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    31 Lord Ton
    Absolutely classic. What an idiot. Shame Sharon Halford isn't in the clip- she was part of the debate too and everyone said she was very good.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @31 .... if that is an intellegent RG what hope for the rest of them....

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    He's still one of yours mate LOL

    So James Peck is not a argie then?

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Love it, Lord Ton.
    That professor is a real dipstick

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Papamoa

    Well written article and it puts the UK message up front and clear as long as the Falklanders wish to remain British they can have all the Protection that is required to defend there Human Rights!!!

    The argentines can just keep dreaming of the make believe malvenass!!

    Long Live the Falklands.

    Down with argentine Colonialism.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Argie bloggers
    That’s
    Argentine Colonialism
    .

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • catagom

    “Argentina alleges that Britain took the Falklands by force in 1833...”

    Ok then, so, take it back by force! What cry babies.

    Organize a Mercosur Army and take it back.

    As this dispute becomes more confrontational and escalate into a full-blown conflict watch Argentina's “friends” in the region run for the hills.

    Speaking of which, when war breaks out, and it can't since Argentina doesn't have a military and the UK still very much does (how DUMB can you be Argies?) you will be able to find Timerman and Randozzo hiding under the furniture.

    Oh, wait, I have an idea.

    Why don't you Argies try to occupy the Falklands while International community occupies Argentina?

    How's that sound.

    Of course, it is already happening.

    Puerto Madero in BA is the most important commercial center in the country.
    Very little of this is being done BY Argentina FOR Argentina.

    It is simply being done IN Argentina.

    THIS boys and girls, is the future of this region. Get used to it.

    Ah, and I can't resist commenting on this.....

    “we are full of satisfaction at the support being built by the rest of the world,” Randazzo said.we are full of satisfaction at the support being built by the rest of the world,” Randazzo said.

    Argentina is loathed throughout the International community.

    As one Argentina acquaintance once said to me about her country,

    ”We hate the world and the world hates us.”

    That's true. By and large they are a not a well-liked people in the world.
    And do you know why?
    They are not likable.

    One can easily dismiss Randozzo's comment as more hot air, the accumulation of which is only going to contribute to the inevitable evaporation of his country.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Im thinking of making the master of my future in one only one caribbean island. Ill go there with some arms and friends, allow to enter only my firendds, expelled the population put my flag with the photo of my pet in one corner and proclaim my country sovereignity. If anyone else that lived there before claims it, I say that according to what I think and Im very fond to my oppinnion Im entitled to do what I want there, with the resources, with the land and of course they are argentinian for the generations of generations, because people of caribe cannot enter to live in my isles. Ive always thought that sovereignity over caribe would be better than having to pay the estadía there.
    get all the oil please, and go away to your first world.
    south americans for southamericans

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Quite right old chap,
    Rest assured when you put the argentine flag on top of the white house,
    The world will know who Argentina really is,
    Sky blue on top
    Sky blue on the bottom, and a telly tubbier in the middle,
    Yep, it wont be long now, the argentine imagination knows no bounds .

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @40 malen
    south americans for southamericans - we agree with you.

    But

    The South Atlantic is British, and no more a part of S America than the Caribean is part of S America.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    South America to south americans! Malvinas belong Argentina!

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Falklands/South Atlantic are British. Get uesd to it and try getting along with your neigbours.

    Brasileiro - Actually understood you this time, keep it up!

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    We aore ONE!!! Brazil, Argentina, Uruguai, Paraguai, Venezuela, Peru, Colômbia, Equador, Suriname, Guiana, Chile....WE ARE ONE!!!!

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    One continent yes, which the falkland/S Atlantic is not a part of.

    If you read the article above you will learn that the British have been there since before Argentina or Brazil ever existed. (did you read it)

    And we are staying, with as much right to be there as you have to be in SA.

    Like I said better get used to it, there is nothing you can do about it.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    South America is South America! Malvinas are South America too. For ever and ever! British no south America! Malvinas is south america! So? Go home british!

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    That is our home, since before you stole yours from the Indians

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    You talk like Cortez! But, in this time no more Cortez! You can learn about South America. Southamericans are “apaixonados” for live, dignity and democracy....like romans, and greeks!

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    like romans, and greeks!

    Both societies based on slavery and conquest. Even in the Athenian democracy the vote only extend to Homi or those of equal status, the rest were slaves.

    You think I talk like Cortez, you are the decendant of Cortez still running the family business.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Really? Do you think that?

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you sound like one of those rampant rabbits in action,
    listen carefully,
    argentina may own south America,
    but the falklands are british,

    if you stop being anti for one second and key ya brain,
    ya might unlock something interesting .

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I dont agree, sorry. Malvinas belong Argentina. Your resources belong argentina. And 3 thousands of peoples...belong England. England stay in Europe...not here. England make war for 3 thousands? England want to have one enemy like South America? NATO? hehehehe. Poland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Ukraine....and BRIC....China, Rússia....they go to NATO too. I doubt. This world no more England or only cause. Peace. Learn our language, castellano. Learn all about us. Live like south american. Live like argentinians!

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Well then you belong Portugal Brasileiro. When you go back?

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I am a portuguese in “coração”. Our real family is single. Our territory, our language, our culture, our “modus operandi”, YES, we are portuguese in América....in Brazil!!

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I see they have complete, raving, hypocritical nutters in Brasil, as well as Argentina.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Green Goose

    Brasileiro, Thank you for confirming that you are a Portuguese colonialist. We are grateful for your honesty.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    We aore ONE!!! Brazil, Argentina, Uruguai, Paraguai, Venezuela, Peru, Colômbia, Equador, Suriname, Guiana, Chile....WE ARE ONE!!!!

    jes suis desolee !!!!!!!
    French Guiana is an overseas region of France, consisting of a single overseas department located on the northern Atlantic coast of South America

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Brazil, stolen from the Guaraní. Go back home to Portugal Brasileiro!

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    poor Brasileiro! another indocrinated brain washed fool,
    sadly his brain extends only as far as his skull,
    and all the time forgets to basic fact of freedom,
    they fought for their freedom, and now try to deny it to others,
    argentina sadly will pay a very high price for her stupidity,
    and despite some bloggers aiding them in their quest, brazil will do nothing, she has everything to gain, and evrything to lose,
    south America may be united, in name only, but make no mistake,
    brazil is top dog, the rest are puppies, and as long as you argies are willing to be puppies, then carry on with you insults and wimper.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    1/3 of the planet stolen by the English....now you have to give it back.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    All of Argentina stolen from the Natives..........now you have to give it back. Hypocrite!

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Guaraná is very tipycal in Brasil, but to drink it.
    Guaraní is more tipycal of Paraguay, although you can find communities in south of Brazil and north of Argentina, you know that in Paraguay they speak both spanish and guaraní language and they have more identity with guaraní culture.
    Brasil had other communnities like caraibas, panos, guaicurús etc and many of them were killed but many others also mixed with portuguese. then came black people they brought from africa to make slaves and they also mixed (mulato, mameluco, etc). Brasil is a great mestizaje. as all america.

    Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    Britain took formal possession of the islands in 1765, establishing various settlements over the next half century before the independent state of Argentina came into being...................... CFK does not understand this simple fact !

    Jan 23rd, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alejomartinez

    Such a good job Argentina once again and again! The whole world speaks of the sovereignty dispute all the time, gets to know the truth and becomes aware of Argentina's peaceful stance and growing support. This is exactly the least that the UK expects: the existence of the dispute and the need to solve it cannot be no longer hidden or denied! Come to terms with it UK both in London and your colony!

    Jan 23rd, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Alejomartinez, another cut & paste expert!
    Still funny though. the WHOLE WORLD! Ha ha ha ha, ldiota!

    Jan 23rd, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I have jus replied to some Argie idiot on another topic with exactly the same nonsense.

    Are you all using the same brain cell today?

    Jan 23rd, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    gets to know the truth and becomes aware of Argentina's peaceful stance

    and now you test launch the PCX-2009, MISSILE
    YEP VERY PEACEFULL
    .

    Jan 23rd, 2012 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    I am glad UK wants to give the illegal aliens rights in their jurisdiction.the real question is when are the brits going back to claim their rights in UK.

    Jan 24th, 2012 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Pirat-Hunter anti anti tut tut .

    Jan 24th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    The above article gives the correct historical facts (which are generally very different from those taught in Argentine schools). The Argentinean government need to respect the rights of the Islanders to self determination. The Argentinean government has signed up to this specific right at the UN so I am puzzled as to why they are changing course on this matter. You can’t have it both ways. When will you realise that the Islanders have been there since before Argentina existed and that if you just respected that and tried to forge a relationship with them then you would benefit, after all, Buenos Aires is the closest major port. The UK isn’t going to allow another invasion, there are 3000 troops permanently stationed there (at the request of the inhabitants) and they will only discuss sovereignty if it is in the context of asking the Islanders what they wish.

    If the Argentinean government really wants to discuss sovereignty with regards to the Falklands, then I suggest that, firstly, the Argentinean government enter into negotiations about giving back the southern part of Bolivia which they stole all those years ago. Whilst doing this they should also enter into talks with Chile about disputed borders and possibly even Uruguay/Paraguay. Also, whilst you're sorting this out, how about an official government apology for the mass genocide committed against the native population by general Roca and others...

    Jan 25th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @71 Welsh Wizard,
    All this has been pointed out to them before but they just ignore what they don't like.
    l think that they are genuinely shocked at being called colonialists.
    But thats what they are.
    Many of them scream about us not wanting to go to the ICJ.
    But they wouldn't respect the court's ruling if it went against them.
    lt really hurts their pride that they were defeated in 1982.
    They seem incapable of moving on. They have to get “even”
    We've lost plenty of battles & wars, but we've won more.
    Hopefully we learn from our mistakes(sometimes l wonder about that!).
    They just have to win ALL the time. NO-ONE wins all the time.
    You suggestions are good but the Argentines will dismiss ALL of them without even a raised eyebrow.

    Jan 26th, 2012 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I invite ours brothers from South....come to invade Falklands. 1000000 of peoples from south. I invite! In boats,,,in boats, like Cubans!
    Pacific invasion! Stanley will be latin! Thousands boats! The summer is now! We go to Malvinas! Pacific invasion!!!

    Jan 26th, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    this indocrinated child is an idiot of the hight ,
    childish or what .

    Jan 26th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljordao

    Brasileiro, several parts of those islands are peppered with landmines, a gift from the Argentinians before their final defeat. Therefore, even in the summer those islands are not a good place for frolicking trespassers.

    As to Cubans, the only boats on which they are eager to embark are those going from Cuba to Florida. Besides, when they happen to reach their desperately sought destination, they invariably arrive there as immigrants rather than as settlers. Do you understand the difference?

    From a Brazilian to another: you are embarrassing our country. Could you please stop spouting ungrammatical nonsense?

    Jan 26th, 2012 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @75 ljordao,
    Maybe he isn't a Brazilian.
    Just an Argentine trying to show that they have Brazilian support.

    Jan 26th, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Well, he has [5] holes, and judging by what comes out of the middle hole
    You may well be correct.

    Jan 26th, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljordao

    Isolde, you are right. Brasileiro's behaviour matches perfectly the stereotype of Brazilians as an incoherent and overemotive lot, which is precisely what a poorly travelled Argentinian would employ in a forum like this.

    Jan 28th, 2012 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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