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Chavez is also father of an embarrassing teen-ager who angers Venezuelans
President Hugo Chávez 14-year-old daughter, Rosines angered Venezuelans and embarrassed her father by posting a picture of her holding a handful of US dollars on the web. Read full article
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Jan 25th, 2012 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's what I call a relevant story!
A fourteen years old girl holding about 50 dollars in cash!
The perfect proof that Venezuela is a brutal communist dictatorship!
Thank you for opening my eyes MercoPress.........
Normally, I'd say “Don't go out and spend it all at once!”
Jan 25th, 2012 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0She is young, she knows her father is dying, let's cut her some slack.
Jan 25th, 2012 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Think
Jan 25th, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Am surprised someone with you intelligence missed the whole point of the article. It clearly shows just how its 1 rule for chavez and another rule for the rest of the population, not to mention a possible clear sign of curruption. Then you have the to ask the reason why a 14 year old girl has or even needs US dollars in the first place and just how many more she has in the bank. Hopefully she will use them to enjoy what little time she has left with her father, regardless as to how she acquired them.
Think is only jealous because the fifty dollars the girl has as pocket money is what he gets as his weekly wage in Argentina while standing on street corners.
Jan 25th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hate to see anybody suffer from cancer, and I'm sorry she'll probably lose her father soon. But, this is probably a good example of how these “socialists” simply can't create the utopia they tell the masses they can create. The Soviets couldn't do it and poverty, inefficiency, and corruption in Venezuela are probably worse now than ever. Even though communists and socialists claim they can create equality, class divisions are worse under those systems because the “haves” are in smaller numbers than in an open-market economy. Hopefully the Venezuelans and the other LATAM countries that have elected other socialist-oriented (take from “the rich”, wealth re-distribution, etc.) will wake up.
Jan 25th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has Chavez blamed the yanks yet ??????????????????????
Jan 25th, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Razor, what you're saying about Venezuela isn't true. I don't know whether the current administration is more corruption than previous ones, and it's perhaps correct to say urban violence has gotten worse. But inequality and poverty have both declined and there are many sources on that - the World Bank, for example. Why don't people try to research about a subject before trying to make a comment on it? Social instability in Venezuela is nowadays nowehere as intense as in 90s, when the presidents were trying to push their “modernization reforms” (neoliberal policies) down people's throats.
Jan 25th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i will always remember a speech made by the chinese consul of Rio in my university:
Jan 28th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You are mistaken,China is a democracy sir“
Yes..so venezuela too. Its time for us to wake up and dont allow such things in SA and Mercosul. Our government is too friendly with stupid rulers, its time to act more like USA and less like Africa. Assertiviness will ensure SA power in the world. Chavez must be shot down if the cancer dont work out. Greetings from a liberal Brazilian.
Forgetit87, my research comes from speaking with Venezuelans, i.e., people who actually live there. Are you Venezuelan? If not, what do the Venezuelans you spoke with say about it? I'm assuming that you consider expropriation of land and assets by the Venezuelan government as just fine? Normal people would call that corruption. Going out to some PDF on the World Bank's website to find nuggets of information is helpful in what way exactly?
Jan 30th, 2012 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 Razor
Jan 31st, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mate, hes just throwing statistics with no sources of how wonderful are left-wings government in LA. As all “workers party“ members.
Am i right Forgetit87 ?
(9) DanMoura
Jan 31st, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“Chavez must be shot down if the cancer dont work out. Greetings from a liberal Brazilian.”
I say:
Liberal.................?
Sounds more like a criminal Brazilian to me.........
Yep, i was rude, but you was able to undestand my statement.
Jan 31st, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(13) DanMoura
Jan 31st, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I “Think” you are overestimating your powers of communication, Mr. Moura.
The only thing I, or anyone else, can “understand” from such a statement is that you are promoting the shooting of a democratically elected president.
You may be many things lad……………. but you ain’t no liberal.
Democratic...uhum..as the comunist party in china?
Feb 01st, 2012 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Democracy in venezuela is a joke.
What i mean is that Chavez must be pull off venezuela's government, in one way or another.
So dont waste your time defending such people.
Greetings.
@razor
Feb 01st, 2012 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0So you speak with Venezuelans! How silly of the World Bank to maintain a database to calculate the Gini Index or similar measures! It should just send one member of their personnel -- you could volunteer! - to speak with people on the street! How more accurate would its numbers then be, and the budget would thank! Seriously now, I don't need to be Venezuelan to know how to read simple statistics. Perhaps things have changed a bit as a result of the financial crisis, which affected Venezuela more than most of her neighbors -- but at least before 2008, poverty and inequality fell steadily under Chávez. You can very well google something about the matter yourself, though if you say you're too incompetent, I can myself bring about some sources.
@Think
Avoid this dumb Moura child. 'Tis quite clear whatever capacity he once had to make an impartial reading of the world's facts has been corrupted by a bad literary diet of resentful right-wing agitators. Try and debate his points, and he'll just explain them away as factoids made by a lefty. DanMoura, do you wish to be like Reinaldo Azevedo when you grow up?
Its clear for me that you and your mate arent impartial at all. My statement arent based in “right wings whatever“, im just trying to find the path that in my opinion our country should follow. About factoids, well, lets see the facts, Venezuela IS NOT a democracy, whatever you say wont change the real world. You seems to be intelligent, so as i said to “Think“ , dont waste your time in pointless arguments about how wonderful is Chavez and his government. I ve been with a venezuelan farmer weeks ago, you would like the conversation and would be as angry as me.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, dont make personal attacks when your are arguing, like dumb child or whatever, keep the respect.
Greetings compatriot.
(17) DanMoura.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You ask for respect when a poster calls you ”Dumb Child”….
Yet, you show the greatest possible disrespect to the 65 to 70% of the Venezuelan electorate by asking ”black on white” for their elected President to be shot.
Would you care to tell me, shortly and concisely, why, in your opinion, Venezuela is not a democracy?
Do you know anything we don´t?
Hey Forgetit, I was trying to be civil and have a discussion, but you had to go and call me incompetent didn't you? Should I stoop to your level now?
Feb 01st, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should do what I said -- go research about the subject. Though I don't think these matters have been extensively reported on mainstream media -- perhaps because it didn't offer journalists a stick with which to beat Chávez -- it's not hard to find something about Venezuela's poverty and inequality under Chávez.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 08 Forgetit87
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't people try to research about a subject before trying to make a comment on it?
I thought the point was to comment on the subject above. people have an opinion on the subject after reading it don't they? Or is this not allowed?
Yes Mendoc, I was expressing an opinion, but you see, Forgetit87 is one of those socialists who knows better than everybody else. He needs to educate “the others” on “reality”. Did you see how he dismissed the fact that I was actually speaking with Venezuelans? See, this is what happens with these socialist/communist pedazos de mierda, if you don't agree with them, they vilify you, then they close down or take control of any media outlet (TV, newspapers, etc.) they say is “anti-government” or “anti-revolutionary” and they shut down free speech. Chavez did it, CFK did it. I live in the First World with free speech. Where do you live Forgetit87? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0@mendoc
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Though razor is probably grateful enough that a troll has come along to stand up for him, our debate has nothing to do with the article's subject -- it has to do with his allegation that poverty has worsened under Chávez. This is not an opinion -- this is an allegation. And that Venezuela's become poorer now would be indeed amazing, considering that she had fantastic growth prior to the financial crisis, and there has been much more investment to expand services for the poor. You read the exchange before making a weird and entirely unnecessary contribution.
@razor
Has the self-pity party finished already? Do you now have the time to read something? Because, buddy, personal anecdotes are not evidence, and not something anyone is forced to accept. “People” you have spoken with are not all Venezuelans; thus whatever feelings they communicated to you, may not reflect what's been going on in their country as a whole. Moreover, a lot of common criticism directed at particular administrations, specially one as divisive as Chávez, may be contaminated by ideological biases. It's much more preferrable to resort to statistics in a debate of this sort, not to (perhaps invented) anecdotes. Wipe your tears and debate like a rational being. Commence by reading the article below. It's overtly laudatory towards Chávez, but it has facts from reliable sources. Oh, and so much for me being the aggressive one, pedazo de mierda.
http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=3016
Why... lets see the facts, Venezuela‘s press is controled by the government, private property is not respected, president‘s ellection is a joke, a bad one.
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Try to see the facts.
As i said before you really should talk to a venezuelan who was deported because he doesnt agree with Chavez, or like the farmer i had the opportunity to talk to, lost EVERYTHING, because he owned a milk‘s farm and Chavez decides to take his land and give to a fellow of his party. Now he lives here in Rio.
Venezuela isnt a democracy nothing what you say would change that.Democratic rulers have deadlines to leave the power, Chavez dont. Hope i aswered your question.
Just for curiosity, do you thing that China or Cuba are democracies?
Wow, I'm trying to follow your post referring to “tears” and “self-pity”, etc. You lost me there. Anywho, you sound like a helluva guy, so maybe we can get together the next time I'm in Argentina and have a beer and discuss politics?
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