MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Malvinas dispute helps ‘to distract UK public opinion’ from serious domestic problems
The UK is taking advantage of the diplomatic conflict escalade with Argentina over the Falkland Islands sovereignty dispute to distract public opinion from serious domestic problems such as unemployment, said Argentine Vice-president Amado Boudou. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNice theory VP Boudou. Except it's not big news in the UK. Is it dominating things in Argentina?
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Boudou is of course completely correct.This story is all over the conservative and red top press.Yankee Christy and teaboy have been telling us Argentina is fu..ed ha ha Car sales in january hit yet another all time record 113000 units more than double Spains who have a larger population.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL.. The papers in Britain are more concerned about the big freze coming... I think its the argies rent a mob smashing up banks in their shanty towns that are being distracted from their plight
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Buying up cars? Probably also buying up rice, sugar, butter... nope... butter is already off the shelves...... buying anything they can lay their hands on before the price goes through the roof.....
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's a massive distraction in Argentina, where inflation is still out of control, and the storyline nicely covers up Christina's corruption.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0and they still have 7 % unemployed during their “boom” time..
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0“They have domestic questions that must be solved such as unemployment and Scotland’s independence referendum and the oil in the North Sea. They must have minds concentrated in other issues to compensate for the floundering support of government and keep strengthening the colonialist spirit”, underlined the Vice-President.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Alternatively Argentina feels UK might be distracted and sees an opportunity to repeat their 1982 Military Adventure, Naked Aggression, War Crime. How little these Hispanics understand the British.
Taiana assured that the Argentine Government will continue to push with the sovereignty claim until “the United Kingdom sits down to negotiate” over the Malvinas Islands.
He's in for a long wait.
I can only to agree that Argentina is in for a very long wait!
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well Boudou that might be correct, except the papers here seem more interested in the death toll from football violence in Egypt and that more people die in hospitals at the weekends :)
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0O'gara, drop the charade mate, its getting tedious, everyone here knows you are a sad Argie blogger masquerading as a bog trotter pretending he knows what he is talking about, when quite clearly a Haggis has better grasp of UK affairs and the Falklands then you could ever manage......
Puro ecolalia, nada mas...
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you really want a parrot, go and buy one at the petshop!
Is it incredible to read an Argentine Vice president talking about British questiones as “London is after issues of big media impact to hide the daily sufferings of Britain with its problems of unemployment, shrinking economy, social unrest by appealing to a very distant situation such is the South Atlantic Islands dispute”, Seems as Mr Boudou is reading and old statement said by the MNinister of the dictatorship that inatiated the 1982 invasion Mr. Costa Mendez.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 09 tHow is the the little welsh collaborator today?.Indeed the bogs of Ireland are beautiful and I enjoy walking them immensly.The UK as you call it is facing oblivion what are little collaborators like you going to do when Scotland leaves? Even the Welsh the sorry poor excuse for a province that they are will surely get a little bit of balls after that.You should be careful those that remained in Ireland met a rather sad end.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0But as for the Malvinas all the serious English newspapers openly admit the time is limited for the planters to come to their senses.
hasnt irelands economy collapsed ..building more homes than there are people living there... Only the irish. .... Still they seemed prettu grateful we bailed them out...
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0No offence but isn't this usually CFK's strategy?? The islands always get brought up when they are trying to avoid their own bad press -
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is nuts, Britain isn't doing anything except answering some of the more extreme nonsense coming out of Argentina.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Britain doesn't 'need' any of this and we would all much rather live quietly and peacefully.
Quite apart from the fact that this isn't a big news story in Britain.
Do you have to be a compulsive liar and a hypocrite to get on in Argentine politics?
@14
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its part of argentina's new effort to prove they are just as delusional and retarded as creationists, who patented the use of psychological projection to enable them scrambling to get moral highground
fortunately anyone with a working internet connection or access to UK papers shows differently
This has only started making the news in the last two weeks. Seriously you are being fed lies if you believe this is major news over here in England. By the way are you guys in Argentina still making it illegal to give a real inflation rate? If you have woken up to the real rate then just for fun try this calculation. Take your 2011 GDP figure and subtract 25 (the rate of inflation) and that is your REAL GDP figure! Enjoy. Yes I know my country is in deep trouble and we have a hard 5 years ahead of us. It is called reality and we will deal with it like we have for over a thousand years. At least I can admit it- which is the first stage in dealing with it. Enjoy your delusion
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0thats most of the argies crossed off the list..
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. What a hypocritical goon.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0This article is not true and all comments are inadequate.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is not distraction.
This is as saying in technically .. controllable covering up strategy ..
also comes from both sides Britain and Argentina.
Boudou (Christ, get a haircut!) is projecting again. Argentina's behaviour is not a major story in the UK and the idea that people need a distraction is nonsense. As I posted in another thread, people understand what has to be done to put right the economy after the last populist government over spent. It will take decades, it will get worse before it gets better but 'worse' in the UK is a far better standard of living than a lot of countries can only dream of.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Boudou mentioned people were against the welfare reforms. Wrong again. The majority of people want to see the system reformed to more fairly distrubute help where it is genuinely needed. It will be debated - as all changes are - because that is what happens in a democracy.
Classic Argentine disinformation. 30%+ inflation Boudou? Yes, we're surely the ones distracting the population.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 013 Irelands economy since 2008 has indeed collapsed and indeed the City contributed something like 10% to the loan granted to Ireland at a fair interest rate.Of course as usual the city did what it does in self interest.Ireland buys more from England than Russia,China,India and Brazil combined.Anyway we are taking the pain and growing again albeit very slowly helped by its agri and computer sectors.But not unlike the rest of Europe serious inefficencies remain.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one really wonders how it is posisble that type of dumb people are elected in Argentina.. but again, they are the only ones to go backwards for more than a century so yes...lets go on and on... the day Brazil surpasses Argentina, it will be a big frustration ...its just a matter of time. Its also easy to see how incompetent they are... ever seen a argentina official become getting appointed in a top position on an international level?? they are big in Argentina, and garbage on international level
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are a couple of things amusing about this and the Argentine government in general. One, nobody outside of Buenos Aires gives a rat's ass about Argentina's claim over the Falklands. I was just in Cordoba last week and not one Argentine I talked to cared at all about them. Two, you could pretty much do a find/replace on Boudou's statements and replace UK or Britain with Argentina. See, CFK is one of those Latin American leaders who needs an enemy to keep her relevant (can you say Chavez?). Argentina is the one who is using the Falklands “dispute” (it's only a dispute in the minds of the CFK government) to distract the public from greater problems. The Argentinian people in general are really friendly, fun to hang out with, etc. but man you have to get rid of those maniacs “running” the country.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I amagree with ZULU99 by at would like to add that concerning the “Malvinas Argentinas” issue is a cultural problem which their causes are in the whole political elite divided in awful liars or harmless liarss...By exemple high official members in the foreign office during Menem´s administration mainly were harmless liarss, but the members of this government starting by the Chancelor, following by the Vice President and of course the President they are the worse owful liers that we had in govenment about the Malvinas / Falklnads matter in the last 20 years....Of course worse tha this current administration was Tha Military Junta Maffia and in the democratic era the Alfonsin ´s administration specially Chancellor Caputo a great owful lier in this issue....
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know all the argentine idiots have to do is go to the british newspapers website homes pages to see what major news they are reporting on to realise just how wrong their own government is when it claims britain is trying to deflect the population from the real issues by using the falklands dispute. (by the way the home page of a newspapers website usually contains the front page news and most major news storys
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The gaudian - http://www.guardian.co.uk/ - No mention to any aritcle on the falklands on their home page
Telegrapth - http://www.guardian.co.uk/ - Yet again no mention on the falklands dispute/tensions
The observer - http://www.guardian.co.uk/ - Again like its parent paper the guadian, there is not a single link to any article on the home page for the falklands dispute/tensions
Daily Mail - http://www.guardian.co.uk/ - Only a small mention of argentine thugs vowing to attack a british buisness every week, which appears right at the bottom mixed in with a number of other headlines and it of no real worth.
The Mirror - http://www.guardian.co.uk/ - Nothing mentioned about the falklands at all that i could see on the home page or on the news page.
The sun - http://www.guardian.co.uk/ - 1 link to article reporting on timmermans “conquerer” jibe at prince william and argentina thugs rioting, but even that was half way down the page and only a minor article. Note it was also in the paper on page 7 where the front page and page 4 and 5 were dedicated to a story or a woman who used to be a man, that claimed to have sleeped with 1000 men since becoming a woman. Page 2 was all about current politics and national issues, which is where things bout debt and unemployment and scottish nationlism is reporting daily as well as in extended articles on later pages. Page 3 was well a very pretty site as always.
So those are the main news papers.
Heres the BBC news hompage - http://www.guardian.co.uk/ - Again nothing at all.
So Bow-Wow's yapping at Old Rubber Neck's command again?
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How would any man with a backbone spout this sort of delusionary crap and think that anyone is going to believe it?
Apart from the usual Argie Bloggers of course.
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Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ere Lady Gaga Daygo boy..........nobody's fooled by your pretend Irish charade :) But keep it up, if you were truly Irish you would know exactly that Craughwell is an Irish place name (Welsh? On which drug did you come to that insane lapse of logic hahaha!), your yet another Walter mitty in the long line who hasn't a clue about Ireland and the UK let alone the Falklands (as you are another Malvinist sock puppet account).
P.S You live in Ireland now!.......last week you were living in Buenos Aires hahaha LOL if your going to pretend to be a Bog trotter with a brain, at least be consistent in the lie hahaah.
He is right, in his view but he has the wrong country,
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is in fact Argentina who is using the British news to distract attention of the argentine public from Argentina chaos, but again it will not work .
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This Boudou person is DELUDED, He has swallowed too much of there own Propaganda!!!
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long Live the Falklands.
No he is not deluded....
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He has his snout in the government trough and he will do what ever it takes to keep it there...
RGs don't just steal from gringos.. they steal from each other as well....
Well, if we have to tighten our belts, first thing we do in the UK is stop paying the £7 Million a year to Argentina in Overseas Aid, they don't deserve it.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@33 WTF - You mean we have been giving them £7 million pounds in aid each year and they return the favour by burning our flags and whining and complaining over the falklands, while at the same time they spread lies (like in the article) and make us out to be the ones with colonial ambitions, when it is they that are wanting to colonise a british population and british island. Fuck that, you tell me who signed that check and i make sure he doesnt have any fingers left to sign any more ;-)))
Feb 04th, 2012 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0The money is European Overseas Aid, they give £65 Million last year to Argentina because it's a poverty stricken shithole, and £7 Million of that came from the UK.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0£7 million?
Feb 04th, 2012 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0It must be mor of a poverty stricken shithole than I originally thought!
About time we put a stop to that!
@ben i'll draw up the mission plans, you bring the base ball bat, then when we find the twat that signs off that £7 million well break his hands so he can not sign any more of our tax payers cash. Are you up for it - Because i doubt or politians will do anything about it.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, look the educated, humble Europeans. Deep down their essence remains intact, it only takes putting them together to elicit that. The interlude we call Pax Americana and Sovietica kept your little continent at peace for a little while, just like the Romans afforded you two millenia earlier.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's coming to an end as we speak and no doubt by 2020 Europe will return to the Chthonic landscape it has always been. Because if European history tells us anything, it will always snatch war and misery from the jaws of peace and prosperity.
Been in the UK recently, it is not a big issue there. It only seems to be distracting Argentineans from what they should be worrying about. Their economy, their income inequality, their poor, their trade problems with their neighbours.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0@38 Tobias - I'm not South American or British/European but don't really know what you mean? Are you saying that the South American continent has been peaceful and a great bastion of human rights and justice? Lots of armies, lots of grand parades and lots of silly uniforms is what we have seen in recent history.
I would agree that the Pax Espana is a bit of a European problem as not many of its former colonies have been peaceful or had stable governments in history. Maybe this is what the Falkland Islanders fear: the instability that goes with leaving Pax Britannica? Just a thought.
@Tobias. Most European countries are too wedded to welfarism and left-liberal ideals to have the stomach for war. They just are'nt the same people who were prepared to fight continent sized siege campaigns like 1914-18 or 39-45. They are weaklings who would be swiftly conquered by a determined enemy such as a resurgent Russia or radicalized islamic coalition.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0The military capabilities of most EU countries are laughable. Our own forces were gutted by Labour then had the coup de grace committed by David Cameron, a man I consider to be as fitting to be PM as the average goldfish.
The USA have been relied on to do the heavy lifting in terms of defence, thats why the yanks were rightly complaining about it to us recently.
As to aid to Argentina! That is bizarre, and should be stopped immediately. Only our moronic government would stand up to it's only people and brazenly tell them that providing cash to it's enemies is in our best interest. The usual refraim of “just think of the poor children” is wheeled out, sickening. Meanwhile HMS Dauntless is sent out with most of her designed weapons load..........but that's OK we gave the money to those who would send her to the bottom, along with her crew.
@34, why stop at fingers, I think the idiots responsible for this should be shot.
I love it when public servants are honest and are deeply devoted to good ethical work, hat's off for MR. Amado Boudou public servant #2 right after Christina,
Feb 04th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Tobias - Clearly your not as intelligent as you make out to be, you would see alot of whats posted here is in humor. Only an idiot would believe that we actaully mean to carry out any finger breaking. Personally i'd rather shoot a few of the argentine bloggers on here, to stop them benefitting from the £7 million aid and to make sure it goes to all those children that are suffering from starvation in argentina and all those that are currently living in slums in BA, that you and your fellow argentines are doing sweet f off to help.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@40 good point, out comes the GPMG, we will probably need it as theres a lot of people to shoot lol.
Ok, 7 million down... 893 billion to go.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a couple million more guys, such a grand sum of money in countries who's GDPs run in the hundreds of billions. It will brake Argentina's back.
Nah argentinas back is already broken - high inflation, devalued currency, GDP in decline when inflation is accounted for meaning economic growth firgures are not accuraqte as when the true inflation is added, the economy is in major decline, Government reserves running out and all the while your government is deflecting from it with their sabre rattling over the falklands, how cullible you argentines are. We don't need to take any action against your country to bring it down, your doing an excellent job of letting your government destroy your country yourselves. Yet then again, you have been doing that since the 1930's comulating in your countries default in 2001, the last 10 years has been nothing be a rebound wave that is now in retreat back to the point of origin in 2001. keep up the good work, and we may even give you a medal lol
Feb 04th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, 7 million down... 893 billion to go.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its only money,
but at least we pay our debts, most of the world is suffering,
perhaps argentina, could teach us a thing or to,
perhaps if we followed argentina and refused to pay our debts, think of where we would be now ??
@tobias
Feb 04th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do yuo really think we should be giving your country money? A country that is trying to annex the Falklands and evict, or force to live under occupation, thousands of British people? I don't care if it's “only” £7 million pounds, we should'nt be giving you a penny.
Would you give any money to a country that was trying to annex a province of Argentina and using economic threats to do so?
@ teaboy - I can do better than a GPMG - I know where an old Chieftan tank is parked up - believe or not it was used as an advertising gimmick by RBS......
@Shb - Lol - now that would certainly do the trick. Would save having to get C4 as well. ;-)))
Feb 04th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Next stop would have to be CFK's presidential palance, what you think? We can get all the last few years worth of british aid money back from CFK herself before we run her over lol.
awwww has poor ittle gaga run of in a huff because I found out he is nothing but a sad little spotty Argie teenager pretending to be Irish :)
Feb 05th, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 046 shb
Feb 05th, 2012 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But the gun won't have a breech block in it and getting ammunition for it will be difficult. :o)
Argentines are not very bright, given the choice between fascism and democracy they have chosen fascism every time. Given the choice between American hegemony and being an independent nation, they have chosen America hegemony every time, characterised by its attendant secret police (NSA, CIA, Special Forces and other such gestapo trappings, including their own) and an attendant military or militant right government.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Given the choice between being diplomacy and child like spats of anger and lies, they choose child like spats of anger and lies.
Argentina has never recovered from being a wannabe be Axis power in the 1930's. Argentina's version of fascism (like that of Spain's) remained undefeated by WW2 Allied powers. It hadn't even had to fight a real civil war to maintain power, just murder 50,000-100,000 of its own unarmed political activists and we all know how easy that was for their brave and heroic military men, like their hero Commander Astiz.
It took the Falklands War to shake the Argentines into some semblance of reality. Remove their military government and see the Americans as something other than a benevolent uncle, rather more like a the uncle you kept your children away from, you know the one in the old mack who always had his hands in his pockets and a grimace on his lips.
But within a few short years a girl came alone, a wannabe Eva Peron and took them all the way back to year zero! And the Argentine people gave up their collective memory and switched back to servile child.
In the West it's very difficult to understand how the average Argentine thinks. We have to imagine how our own per-adolescent children think and we can then get into their mindset. Give them a box of toy soldiers & some flags to play with and they are as happy as pie, tell them that they can't own Tracey Island though and they will cry their eyes out.
At school, the teachers would always tell them “Tracey Island” was their's. Even though the reality was, it wasn't!
@49 well with bit of engineer skills am sure we can make some of our own ammo for it lol.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 051 Teaboy2
Feb 06th, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It will be getting a slow propellant that will be a problem - civilian propellants for pistols and rifles are far too fast and will result in breech explosions no matter how much you fill them with inert matter (ground walnuts, etc)
Been there, done that, got the tee shirt!
27 Teaboy2 - well pointed out! Ogara - 'all the serious English newspapers' - I take it you've never actually read a serious British (not English) newspaper and were in fact refering to the Sun or Sport?
Feb 07th, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This whole article is utter nonense!
The Falklands issue has only truly made UK news over the past 2-3 weeks - predominently as a result of the need to counteract the Argentinian propoganda. Argentina state William's deployment is an act of aggression and that the UK refuse to negotiate on the Falklands. Did anyone in a position of power as the Falklanders to negotiate thier right to live there in peace? Do the Argentinian government comment on every 6 week military training placement in the Falklands and state they are aggressive acts?
Lots of things are in the media in the UK right now - including rising unemployment and increasing inflation - normal during a WORLDWIDE recession (that incidentally is also affecting Argentinia); the Queens upcoming Jubilee; the London Olympics; the latest indiscressions of celebrities; the phone tapping scandal; the earthquake & tsunami in the Phillipines; the latest football results; the 6 nations. As a % of news the Falklands (aside from the 30th anniversary of the conflict) falls towards the bottom of the list of ALL subjects. If you search on the internet for 'Falkland' and 'UK' over the past 6 months the results you will find will focus on the anniversary of the conflict and the oil - not Argentinia's rediculous attempts to sway world opinion on the right to self determination with the Falklanders.
Argentian needs to accept they are increasing the 'hype' around the Falklands, the UK government are not!
I'm sure the Falkland Islander's would welcome Christina to a meeting to discuss thier rights and desires for the future.....
@ 53 british_but_open_minded
Feb 07th, 2012 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would like to say well said but could you please break your comments down into well spaced paragraphs :) as it is much easier for reading.
Yes in Argentina all we hear about is Malvinas, Malvinas, Malvinas, it's a constant and continuous drone from our government. We have heard it all before, the lies and the disinformation. They have nothing useful to do or say, so they keep on Malvinas, Malvinas, Malvains and the same people answer the call. the more they hear, the angrier the nationalists get, their small minds easily confused.
I sometimes wonder what would happen if CFK and her goons woke up one morning and found that the Malvinas belonged to them , the blue and white dishcloth flew over government house, and there was not a Kelper to be found......
Feb 07th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What would they do....?
What would they tell the people...?
How would they move forward from there....?
I think they would be totally buggered........
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