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UK warns Argentina on cutting off the air link of Falklands with South America
Britain warned Argentina against cutting off an air link to the Falklands as part of an economic blockade of the Islands, reports the Evening Standard. Buenos Aires is threatening to stop a weekly flight from Punta Arenas in Chile to Port Stanley by refusing permission for it to use Argentine airspace. Read full article
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Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0On the one hand, the UK can unilaterally begin exploration and potential exploitation of sea-bed resources around the Malvinas because they currently have possession of the islands. Meanwhile, Argentina has to accept that because it cannot do anything about it.
On the other hand, Argentina is a sovereign nation with jurisdiction over its territory but it is compelled (or should) allow aircraft to overfly its sovereign airspace to get to the Malvinas, a territory which Argentina claims as its own? WTF gives?
Seriously *roll eyes*.
The colonist of Malvinas want to use Argentine airspace while they at the same time despise and vituperate actively against Argentina. Besides, surely they can build their own airport given they are so proudly wealthy.
I mean they should be both consistent and coherent with whichever outcome develops from their strongly held principles. Therefore, if Argentina is 'this' or 'that' well, then carry on without them and don't rely on them for anything.
You can't have your cake and eat it. Put your money where your mouth is and act accordingly.
Besides, if the colonist of Malvinas had any pride, they would utterly reject using Argentina (e.g. airspace) for anything.
The noose tightens and davidito will play to the little englanders and huff and puff and send hague to Bogota and do nothing because he can do nothing
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like the dead argies families will have to swim over.. Oh well but look on the bright side ..St Helena gets an airport and the Falkjlands get a new shipping port.. One door shuts as they say
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh don't worry about the 'dead argies families', as you put it, Nightingale. They can always protest and lobby the Argentine Gov't to change policy.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or are you now all of a sudden concerned about them? *roll eyes*
Nah .. I just like watching the impotent stunts CFK tries . What ever she does always seems to help the Islanders..
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Keep escalating the crisis Helber and you will get to a point where Argentina will not have any influence whatsoever over events.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0What you cannot seem to get into your thick nationalist facist skull is that the Falkland Islanders have self determined to remain British. Forget history, forget who had the biggest Empire and killed the most indigenous people, focus on today and the Falkland Islanders, put yourself in their position. How would you feel?
Be assured Britain will never negotiate away any of the Islanders rights. It would be unlawful and more than that it would be morally wrong.
So I say, do your worst old boy but don't be surprised or feel provoked if Britain retaliates in equal measure.
I say let them do it, blockades have never really worked, they tend to have the complete opposite effect, making the targeted people far more self-resilient and ever less likely to succeed to the belligerents demands.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just look at North Cyprus, despite the best attempts to ostricise the Turkish Cypriot state by Greece, its booming and the Greeklings can do very little about it accept whine impotently on the international stage.
So are you saying that Argentine as a sovereign nation MUST allow access to Argentina' airspace????
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0As Argentina has signed up.. ...yes..
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0from wiki.... The freedoms of the air are a set of commercial aviation rights granting a country's airline(s) the privilege to enter and land in another country's airspace. Formulated as a result of disagreements over the extent of aviation liberalisation in the Convention on International Civil Aviation of 1944, (known as the Chicago Convention) the United States had called for a standardized set of separate air rights which may be negotiated between states but most of the other countries involved were concerned that the size of the U.S. airlines would dominate all world air travel if there were not strict rules.
The convention was successful in drawing up a multilateral agreement in which the first two freedoms, known as the International Air Services Transit Agreement (IASTA), or “Two Freedoms Agreement” were open to all signatories. As of mid-2007, the treaty is accepted by 129 countries.[1]
The first freedom is the right to fly over a foreign country without landing.[3]:31 It is also known as the technical freedom. It grants the privilege to fly over the territory of a treaty country without landing. Member states of the International Air Services Transit Agreement grant this freedom (as well as the second freedom) to other member states,[4] subject to the transiting aircraft using designated air routes.[5]
As of the summer of 2007, 129 countries were parties to this treaty, including such large ones as the United States of America, India, Australia and Argentina.
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But Argentina never honours anything..... a people without honour....
# 2 Ogara ,,,,, mate
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0For all i see your comments are too careful. WHY ? don't be concern on
this web site which is neither British nor South American(no address)
If you are on troublesome where some Mercopress employees write many comments under the different names here....don't be care.!
If you are on troublesome where some likely Monteneros write some comments here to sniff the air .....then this is your problem.!
I have an ability to understand what they are from ,from which origin ,from which race by way of perception of their blood pressure styles,by way of their brain reflexive frequencies ,not important their Spanish,English or anyelse their speaking/writing languages and kinds.
Am i making a sense ! ....!! regards !
#1 There was a Joint hydrocarbons agreement between Uk on behalf of the Falkland Islands and Argentina which would have allowed joint production in our waters and some Argentine waters. Argentina unilaterally withdrew.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0So whose unilateral action are you criticising ?
1 Helber Galarga
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0LAN can get to the Falklands without overflying Argentine airspace.
The problem is that LAN also need to fly over Argentine airspace to get to other places. Argentina uses this to threaten them and they have to submit or ruin their business.
So you can 'roll eyes' as much as you like, but it seems to be distracting you from thinking things through properly.
We already have an airport, but you have to have somewhere to fly to, and we would much rather it was somewhere in South America, although this isn't essential.
We don't have the kind of insane pride that you seem to specialise in.
We don't reject everything about Argentina.
We would like to co-operate over fisheries management, we offered to share oil exploration, and we would like normal communications.
We don't want to be ruled by Argentina. That is a reasonable and considered response.
The rest is hatred and bile whipped up by you and we are not responsible for that. If you choose to punish us, that is your choice, but it mainly hurts you in the end, not least because you can't win.
LAN can get to the Falklands without overflying Argentine airspace.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is that LAN also need to fly over Argentine airspace to get to other places. Argentina uses this to threaten them and they have to submit or ruin their business.
So you can 'roll eyes' as much as you like, but it seems to be distracting you from thinking things through properly.
We already have an airport, but you have to have somewhere to fly to, and we would much rather it was somewhere in South America, although this isn't essential
uk It is time to negotiate.....Do nto waste time..uk (since there is no oil) in MAlvinas,remember Ridley wanted to getrid of MAlvinas.
Just follows the advise.
Sooner or later, the Falkland islanders will be sold out
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/02/falklands-islanders-sold-out
We don't want to be ruled by Argentina. That is a reasonable and considered response
And we want our property back.....
Too bad that the brits will not help you...
#12 Monty ,,,mate
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dont hesitate and afraid of to say about if you are a Monteneros ( Disappeared)...somehow there no any more people who read this web site.
The guardian... LOL
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The guardian... LOL
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nightingale LOL!
Ridley wanted to give back Malvinas......
It is written in the walls.....
If argentina wants to ban the flight from it's airspace it has a right to. But it's time UK exercised it's soveriegn rights and refused to import anything from Argentina Corned beef springs to mind. If argentina is going to fight economic warfare on Islanders it's time UK waged an economic war on Argentina.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The decision is - is the flight from LAN Chile worth while if it flys around Argentina's airspace ?
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Up to LAN I think.
A few less fresh eggs.
A few less Argentines.
Seems to be a fair swop !!
In relation the comments of #17
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I too support the ban on importing products from Argentina.
I personally do not buy products from Argentina (and other selected countries around the world). I accidentally purchased a jar of Dulce de Leche and found it to be from Argentina. Will never make that mistake again. :)
@ Helber Galarga -
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is clear to us that only Argentina has right over Las Malvinas. Population there is illegal pirate population, who have been squating on islands illegally for almost 200 years. They do not speak our language, they do not accept to be reborn Argentine like our national hero Bob Peck, they do not fly our flag, they insult us. This to me is reason enough to force all colonials on islands to move or, if they refuse, to die at hands of our brave Army.
All these piate colonials need to be removed from these islands and replaced with Argentines. Argentines do not owe their origins to a foreign power. This is our islands and they should not have illegals on.
My grandfather's generation will be rolling in their graves, they helped rid this country of thousands of political disidents, yet in Las Malvinas thousands remain. Our coward military failed in 82, they must become brave this time.
@13 Malvinero1
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice piece from Peter Preston, aka Percy Parsnip must make you feel real good him bating for ya :-))))))
Oh for fax sake…
Preston’s inglorious departure from the paper followed two fiascos – the Jonathan Aitken “cod fax” scandal, which saw him accused of forgery during a failed attempt to entrap the Tory minister, and the Sarah Tisdall affair, in which Preston’s spineless submission to a government demand for documents had a young Whitehall whistleblower sent to jail.
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=street_of_shame
In 1970's my father responsible for helping to disappear many thousands of political traitors from this country but his work was undo by failiur of our coward military to win Las Mavlinas battle. But always remember that parents of disapeared were praising their government when we re-occupied Las Malvinas, this is proof that people believe in our country more than they care for their family. This is what make Argentine such strong country.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We can be strong again, with all our might and all our passion directed at Las Malvinas and ignore all our problem at home, we can again be strong.
Never give in to English colonials because our blood is thicker than water and the blood of Las Malvinas I believe is black gold for which many of us with right connections can get very rich from.
@22 Filippo, Las Malvinas battle? wtf !!!!!!!! and your faher did what? Come on !!
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Couple of things:
1. we did not kill civilians, we fought terrorism and in any was there is collateral damage, ok?
2. A true argentine doesn't call the Islands Las Malvinas, we just call them Malvinas so get that right please
3. In terms of oil, there are 1000 times more oil on the main land and the coast that whatever you can find at the Islands
4. The moment we continue electing corrupted politicians the country (my country) will continue being fucked as always
5. We can be strong but we need to recycle our mentality first in other to be a great Nation again.
Just a thought, signing off from the Lone Start State and Viva la Patria carajo !!!
Looking at the map of Chile it appears that they do not need to overfly Argentina but can navigate through the gap in the country boundaries and over the estuary towards the Falklands (correct me if I am wrong) therefore any pressure applied is surely commercial and amounts to blackmail and victimisation.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is my first post after watching this site for a couple of years and I still find it hard to believe the arrogance and stupidity of the Argentine government with their ridiculous argument claiming possession of the Falklands
**12 monty
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tell us anything for about “” desaparecidos“” ....
we can resolve even though by encrypted narration by other names....!
24 copland
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, that's right. Blackmail and victimisation.
Geo
Don't understand any of that. English, dude, English.
20 Filippo (#)
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'They do not speak our language, they do not accept to be reborn Argentine like our national hero Bob Peck'
Sorry your hero is Bob Peck? who is Bob Peck?
** 26 monty
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let the Spanish/English and all other languages which understood and used by ordinary people...as i said you can explain by encrypted narration no one can understand....! be brave ..!
** 27 emma
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do you ever know Bob Peck is good football player,but he has addiction on
bet/game rigging...!!
29 geo2 (#)
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well that's a strange national hero to have :)
@26
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“English, dude ... ”Ahhh , Californian lingo ! sweet ! ;-)
Who in the hell is Bob Beck?
Lets send out a search and rescue party for Bob Peck cause no one knows who he is.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(32) Emma
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's surely just walkabouting somewhere.....
You know those Peck man......
Wondering if he is walking about with a wheel barrow full of vegetables? I better go check my back garden.......
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 23 Scipio Africanus
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You, “fought terrorists”?
So according to Borges and many other experts up to 100,000 of your politically active youth were torchered, raped, murdered,dumped into the Atlantic Ocean from Argentine Air Force planes and helicopters, most of their families still go without a body to bury or a confirmed death to mourn. Who exactly were the terrorists?
It's outrageous that people like you still claim that these people were, quote “terrorists”. What they are were politically active leftist youth. Many of them were murdered by mistake. The few incidents ascribed to these people were probably false flag terrorism - something as old as the hills and still carried out today by such governments as Israel, Russia and many many others including America.
The entire reign of terror carried out on its own people by the Argentine government was under the direction of Operation Condor, itself an South American wide operation carried out under the direction of the CIA, NSA, and School of the Americas directed at countering the rise of the left in Latin America and ensuring the survival of right wing regimes (mostly military) reliant on America for their survival and thus guaranteeing American hegemony over Latin America. That includes American Coporations buying up most of Latin America.
That you people are so uneducated on this period of your own history is outrageous. It is well documented at academic level.
On the balance of probability, you probably even knew of someone or were related to someone “disappeared” to therefore lable them the terrorists is UNBELIEVABLE! The mere act of ”disappearing someone, is not just an act of terrorism, it's a crime against HUMANITY.
You people never cease to amaze me. Your country is disgusting, that it can produce people like you, who can excuse acts so outrageous.
@35
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0100,000??? No ! and yes, somebody that grabs a gun, puts a bomb under my bed, kidnap people for ransom, kills military and police personnel for no reason, YES , those are called terrorist !!
UK warns Argentina? Suuuuure master Cameron whatever you say...
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2012/feb/03/argentinian-protesters-flag-falklands-video
Argentines are far from uneducated on this sad period.Borges or nobody claims anything near 100,000.what is the case is that the likes of xbarilox and some others are supporters of the proceso.There are extreme right wing people in every country.The difference in Argentina is that the anti Peronistas have never except really in 83 under Alfonsin been able to command a majority of the people so that these elements up to 76 resorted to military coups to throw out democratically elected governments.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I dont know anything about you but the reality is Argentina is an example to practically all other countries who have been victims of a brutal military dictatorship.Name me one other country who has put three of its former presidents in jail for human rights crimes.
Contrast this with England for example where Winston Churchill is still lionized whilst it is well known he was involved in horrific crimes in India and Ireland
JayD
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We people” may be as uneducated and benighted as you claim. Yet if you are so much better informed and a cognoscenti on the matter, what do you make of your nation's “special” relationship (and the continual celebration of it), with a country that sanctioned and encouraged what you expatiated upon, around the entire globe, and which apperently abhors your conscience?
Which people would therefore not cease to amaze, and which nation is disgusting?
(34) Emma
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Emma dahling….
I “Think” you are missing your Peck men.
Bob is late Terry’s brother…….....…, not his son.
(37)
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say :
UK warns Argentina..............
I say :
Argentina always has been the collaborator of Britain....!.............
I dont know anything about you but the reality is Argentina is an example to practically all other countries who have been victims of a brutal military dictatorship.Name me one other country who has put three of its former presidents in jail for human rights crimes.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/77173.stm
The 76-year-old has been living in Argentina for the last 50 years. In the TV interview on Monday, he denied any knowledge of atrocities committed at the Jasenovac concentration camp established by Croatia's Ustasa Nazi puppet government in 1941.
He claimed that Jasenovac was a work camp and attributed to natural causes any deaths that ocurred at the camp, adding that he considered himself “a Croatian patriot.”
41 Mr Think, you say ”Argentina always has been the collaborator of Britain....!.............
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please explain how.
Thanks
(40)
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At post 40 I intended to write:
I “Think” you are mixing your Peck men.
The dumb auto speller decided to write:
I “Think” you are missing your Peck men.
But, coming to “Think” about it......
Maybe the speller is not quite so dumb....
Many good reasons to miss those Peck men....
@43
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It looks Marquitos that you don't know your history very well. In the '30, Lisandro de la Torre said that we were the most loyal colony of Great Britain. Did you know that? ;-)
Simio Tejanus :-)
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Honestly I didn't, but reading your post above about our recent history I can tell that you don't have a clue either.
Answer 42 I think proves which side tends to broach completely unrelated subjects when incapable of refutation, and then claim it is the other faction deliberately divagating or departing.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The clamorous indignity on this website of contributors from a nation that celebrates openly a special relationship with the country behind a large portion of the atrocities they themselves bandy about as proof of the brutality of others, is as genuine as a crack-addict lamenting the proclivity of her onychophagist daughter.
Dully dismissed.
@46
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Opinions are like “assholes”, everybody has one :-)
@48 That's right Pomi, opinions no facts
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You @23 “1. we did not kill civilians, we fought terrorism and in any was there is collateral damage, ok?”
Suuuure Pomi, who told you that Mickey mouse?
(43)
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say :
Please explain how .............
I say :
Please look at “” Geopark Oil “” web site ...........
just a sample ............!............................
@48 lol. We also say 'Irish relatives are like arseholes; everyone has one'. (Usually a whole bunch of them) : )
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 050
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks, I will like to read more about this company, so far I learned that they loveee Southern Argentina and Southern Chile(700,000 acres) and is managed from its headquarters in Buenos Aires..
(48)
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say :
Everybody are like “” i am ashamed to say “” ,everybody has one..
I say :
This is the rule of nature ....
Don't you have one of it..?..............!................
Did anybody figure out where Bob Peck is yet? Or was it Bob's Pecker?
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@53
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, I have one ! How many do you have 3?
@49
I speak on behalf of the ones that lost their lives protecting the country from terrorist organizations such as :
Tte Grl Aramburu Pedro E. My Gimeno Jaime
Tte Grl (PM) Caceres Monie Jorge E. Tcnl (PM) López Néstor H
Tte Grl (PM) Sánchez Juan C. Tcnl (PM) Pepa Aldo E.
Grl Div (PM) Actis Omar C. My Reyes Osvaldo R.
Grl Div (PM) Cardozo Cesario A. Tcnl (PM) Sánchez Héctor A.
Grl Div (PM) Muñoz Ricardo A. My Servidio Romeo A.
Grl Div (PM) Salgado Enrique E. Tcnl (PM) Zelaya Pedro A.
Grl Br (PM) Cano Eduardo W. Tcnl (PM) Zihel Leonidas C.
Grl Br (PM) Carpani Costa Arturo H. Cap Arteaga Carlos E.
Grl Br (PM) Castellanos Francisco B. My (PM) Aguilera Roberto C.
Cnl Cavagnaro Abel H. My (PM) Keller Miguel A.
Grl Br (PM) D´amico Leonardo R. My (PM) Leonetti Juan C.
Cnl Dalla Fontana José E. My (PM) Paiva Miguel A.
Grl Br (PM) Fernández Cendoya Andrés J. My (PM) Petruzzi Luis M.
Cnl Gay Camilo A. My (PM) Ramallo José A.
Grl Br (PM) Grassi Jorge O. My (PM) Viola Humberto A.
Grl Br (PM) Iribarren Héctor A. Tte 1ro Asúa Mario C
Grl Br (PM) Mendieta Juan C. Cap (PM) Brzic Luis A.
Cnl Peralta Astudillo Geofredo G. Cap (PM) Carbajo Roberto E.
Grl Br (PM) Reyes Rafael R. Cap (PM) Caceres Héctor
Cnl Rico Martín Tte 1ro Cativa Tolosa Fernando
Grl Br (PM) Sureda Ángel A. Cap (PM) Correa Carlos E.
Cnl Triaca Numa O. Cap (PM) Casagrande Carlos M.
Cnl (PM) Bevione Oscar R. Tte 1ro Lucioni Oscar A.
Cnl (PM) Colombo Horacio V. Tte 1ro Naccarato José M.
Cnl (PM) Duarte Ardoy Raúl J. Cap (PM) Spinassi José L.
Tcnl Gardon José F. Tte Gambande Juan C.
Cnl (PM) Ibarzabal Jorge R. Tte Ledesma César G.
Cnl (PM) Larrabure Argentino del V. Tte Mundani José C.
Grl Br (PM) Mutto Alberto E. Tte Rolón
Cnl
Hello argie bloggers. we are thinking of electing a new leader. He is only known by his nickname “Trident D5”. I hear “he” is thinking of making an early visit to Argentina.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Argentine airspace? What's that? An area over which you do not have complete radar coverage. What are you going to do? Bear in mind that downing a civilian airliner is either classified as terrorism or an act of war. Would the British government assist the Chilean government in wiping argieland off the face of the planet? Bet on it! By the way, it isn't the Falklanders who want to use argie airspace, it's the Chileans.
@4 'Dead argies' are just that. 'Dead argies'. Stinking masses of corruption being eaten by worms. No essential difference from occupiers of argie villages, towns and cities.
@10 No, you don't make sense. Because you're a bent pr*ck!
@13 Never your property, d*ckhead. Tell you what, d*ckhead, if you pay for my return airfare (because I wouldn't want to stay in a cesspit longer than necessary) I'll be happy to smash your face against a brick wall until you get some sense. And I'll leave you a souvenir! Guess where I'll shove a bayonet?
@20 Don't you think it's time to stop extruding your brown brains from your rear end? All the indications are that you don't have much left.
@22 Glad to hear your blood is thick. We'll be able to do without paint for a while.
@28 Spanish? Why are you South Americans using Spanish?
@29 Football? Do you mean soccer? I think argie heads make the best soccer balls.
@38 Don't be silly. Three argie presidents have been jailed because they were too much like the people. Vicious, uncivilised, mendacious cowards. Still, you are all the same. And queer as well.
@39 Anything that isn't British, North American, Australian, from New Zealand or a territory of those nations has a choice. You can be slaves or dead. We quite like dead. How do you feel?
@46 How do you “read”? Reading involves so many capabilities of whch you are obviously incapable.
[][, what do you make of your nation's “special” relationship with a country that sanctioned and encouraged what you expatiated upon, around the entire globe, ][]
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[no name of country was mentioned]
Oh dear, the life of a politician,
Did no one tell you, that it is common practise for politicians to deal and trade with the devil,.
Sadly some of you are at least 50,000 years out of date,
Why does Britain or USA and or Argentina, and 199 others , support and trade with these people, well they don’t,
Its called politics, as they say, for the benefit of the people, no country has dealt with no more or no less bad people and countries, than Argentina has, or for that matter most other countries,
Sometimes it is a necessary to deal with certain people.
Not nice but sadly inevitable,
For it is better the devil you know, than ?/
Just a thought .
.
Well said Mr Briton , sir ! tell those “argies” how to deal with politicians ... :-))))
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0** 54 zulu
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you like to eat [ hazelnut ] ....!!
Butter pecan with chocolate will do my dear friend :-)
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, look at number 56, so preoccupied in ordure (argies), he makes absolutely certain to respond individually to every single one of them.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't he seem like a man with his balls in his brain, so inverecund and braggartly? An outstanding exemplar of Britannica.
I may not be able to read Conqueror, but I can indite (not indict, I have already done that of you; get out your unabridged dictionary... preferably a 20 volume version), in a way to render your own language incomprehensible to you. Yeah, an ordure (argie), rendering you illiterate in your own tongue. Wanna try it?
Cadburys whole nut.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0mmmmm
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** 60 Scipio ....62 Brit
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doctors say that ;
Chocolate has (100 gr) ..36 gr Stearic Acid + 42 gr Omega 9 Acids + 18 gr Omega 6 Acids.
Egg(to compare) ...36 gr Stearic Acid + 44 gr Omega 9 Acids + 16 gr Omega 6 Acids.
Butter(to compare)100gr...68 grStearic Acid..28grOmega Acids + 3 gr Omega6 Acids.
Eachs has high level cholesterol...
BUT
Omega 9 Acids are very useful for Brain/Adrenalin/HyperTension..
Omega 6 Acids are very useful for nervous..
keep away from Sunflower Oil / Corn Oils.....!
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 055 Scipio Africanus/artillero/Ga3/
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know that you are hurting because our dictators and friends are in jail or heading there , what can I say...Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.
http://www.desaparecidos.org/arg/victimas/muro2.html
Very well written and interesting article by Graham Bound here who is himself an Islander:
Feb 04th, 2012 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It is remarkable to see a senior British diplomat wearing a 19th-century colonial governor's uniform. The tight breeches and tunic, decorated with yards of brocade and fore-and-aft hat covered in white rooster feathers, tends not to suit today's corpulent diplomats. But in the Falkland Islands, governors are expected to display themselves in this fashion from time to time. Nigel Haywood is the latest to face this challenge.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/there-is-a-point-where-islanders-will-say-to-the-argentines-to-hell-with-you-6358941.html
'There is a point where Islanders will say to the Argentines, “To hell with you...”
Feb 04th, 2012 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAH! Amzing this brits...They care about 2000 people far away at 14000km,and they do not care for the 3 million unemployed at a 100 km radius.....
OHhhmy God.....Sooo glad I do not live with those weirdoos..
We do care about the 3000+ people in the Falklands Islands.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, unemployment is higher than normal at the moment, the whole world is going through a financial crisis.
I can't believe you are still trying to lay claim to an island that is home to Brits.
Thought you would have given up after the early 1980s. The islanders want nothing to do with you! Perhaps Argentinians have learning difficulties and that's why the EU give them a hand out of £65m a year. Argentina sees themselves as a charity case rather than a proper country that can stand on their own two feet.
We do care about the 3000+ people in the Falklands Islands.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, unemployment is higher than normal at the moment, the whole world is going through a financial crisis.
Argentine is a far bigger home to brits.BTW(We love them,but in Argentina)
http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/Wales-History/Patagonia.htm
Notable Scottish ArgentinesEduardo Mac Entyre, artist.
Luca Prodan, musician
Alejandro Anderson, actor
Andrew Graham-Yooll, author
Roberto M. Levingston
Walter Owen, translator
Jorge Brown, footballer
Jose Luis Brown, footballer
Carlos MacAllister, footballer
Juan Perón, 41st President of Argentina
Duncan Stewart, president of Uruguay, born Buenos Aires.
Fernanda Neil, actress
Franco Niell, footballer
[edit] See alsoSt. Andrew's Scots School
Universidad de San Andrés
Did you know that Peron had Scottish ancestry??
Shame on you brits..Against your brothers...
Monty69,
Feb 04th, 2012 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0What do you mean that LAN needs the airspace to flight?. I thought you Brits are so smart that could flight underground too. Ask BenC30, he could give you an idea how to contact the Democratic Monarchy Family. They have a website to support desperate people like you( Watch out! they may charge you a fee). The little Prince is very skillful and is my hero. He is able to drink chocolate in a military mug while is doing camping in Malvinas right now. What a man !!
No... Europe and South America (Americas in general) are nothing alike. Not brothers at all.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 04:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Europe got from America (pop) corn, tomato (sauce), chocolate (milk), the potato (fries), pineapple (pina colada)
America got from Europe smallpox, Christian fundamentalism, the parasitic wasp, and mad-cow disease (average European IQ).
What a trade!
#70 - 2nd - ('cos you ain't first) - It's nice to have hero's. Lord Rochford was one of mine, Palmerston too.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now who is the mug ??
TobyJug - what don't kill you makes you stronger, anyway, all those diseases reduced the need for you immigrants to shoot the natives, so be grateful !
People, Cristina is playing the cards correctly. As far I understood it, all she wants is you to do something stupid.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does the world care about our blockade to the 3000 people there? Not at all.
Now if you decide to do the same to us, you give us world attention and victimization.
Or a fishing ship with an Argentinean License gets too close and unluckly you do something stupid, and we get the same effect.
So as I believe British politicians understand realpolitik, they won't do something stupid and if we cut the air link, you will shout all you want buy nothing real will be felt.
The UK should at least try dialoguing about the Islands issue. It shouldn't even be a negotiation, just a bilateral conversation on how to best solve the problems.
Amzing this brits...They care about 2000 people far away at 14000km,and they do not care for the 3 million unemployed at a 100 km radius.....
Feb 04th, 2012 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0OHhhmy God.....Sooo glad I do not live with those weirdoos..
Dying from hunger in food-exporting Argentina
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
This is a country where social welfare provision for the poorest is almost nil. St. Teresa’s Foundation rescues people from appalling conditions and we provide over 100 residents with:
Why we do it
In Argentina, with many people there is a stigma having a disabled child. The irony is, the worse the disability, the worse the stigma. As such, those who need help the most are often the most neglected. Without our care, our residents would have been left to die in the most horrendous conditions.
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** 65 M.A
Feb 04th, 2012 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know him or did you ever hear his name before...!?
http://www.desaparecidos.org/arg/victimas/z/zaragozan/
illegal aliens are not neighbours just outlaws, in USA and UK Mexicans and gypsys get deported. what's UN decolonization comite getting payed for anyways ?? if theft of land and resources continue to go on, if this isn't evidence of duble standards and corruption by the elite, I don't know what is ! UN has gone from obsolete to becoming a relic for a museum wall.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is a country where social welfare provision for the poorest is almost nil. St. Teresa’s Foundation rescues people from appalling conditions and we provide over 100 residents with:
Feb 04th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why we do it
In Argentina, with many people there is a stigma having a disabled child. The irony is, the worse the disability, the worse the stigma. As such, those who need help the most are often the most neglected. Without our care, our residents would have been left to die in the most horrendous conditions.
At least we spend the money on Eductation and not weapons.If not ask anybody how much cristina spends on Social welfare........
Came and see for yourself....
nickname “Trident D5”. I hear “he” is thinking of making an early visit to Argentina.
AHAHAHHAHAAHA The imbecile looser of conquered.....
How dirty you like the nuke in London prick????
People, Cristina is playing the cards correctly. As far I understood it, all she wants is you to do something stupid.
I agree with you Juan!
She is very clever....She is outmarsting the brits..
Blockades never work. Talking to each other does.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Blockades never work. Talking to each other does.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too bad that uk and the MAlvinenses Do not want to talk.
Good for Argentina...always bully uk ignoring..
UN also wants UK and Argentina to settle the land theft but UK is set on confrontation, UK is gone as far as warning Argentina but according to international laws no country or group can interfere with the territorial integrity of another nation as if Argentina provided Iran, Iraq or IRA arm support.,
Feb 04th, 2012 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@79
Feb 04th, 2012 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is NOTHING to talk about the Islanders want to remain as a British Overseas Territory!!!
And as for Bullying We will leave that to argentina!!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
Down with argentine Corruption.
Bring an END to argentine LIES!!!.
From article @66
Feb 04th, 2012 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It is remarkable to see a senior British diplomat wearing a 19th-century colonial governor's uniform
“Mr Haywood has done just that in the recent past. He has been ambassador to Estonia and Consul-General in Basra”
Rest assured Brits in Malvinas, Mr Haywood did a great job in Basra, Iraq.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11419878
if UK wantsto support the illegal aliens they can do it from UK, the UK thefted land they can not support and now is delegating responsibility to Latinamerica, Not over our skyes they are not, I say bring all the british illegal aliens back to UK if they are not Argentines and don't want to be a part of the land they are in.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 083 Pirat-Hunter
Feb 04th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So do it. Oh hang on. Argentina can't do it. LOL!
What's it like to be an impotent Argentine? Not good for your macho Latino pride I would imagine.
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Feb 04th, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Amzing this brits...They care about 2000 people far away at 14000km,and they do not care for the 3 million unemployed at a 100 km radius.....
Feb 04th, 2012 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OHhhmy God.....Sooo glad I do not live with those weirdoos..
Report exposes egregious abuses in Argentine mental health system
In Argentina, people detained in the country’s public psychiatric institutions are subject to serious human rights abuses. Ruined Lives: Segregation from Society in Argentina’s Psychiatric Asylums exposes serious human rights abuses against nearly 25,000 people locked away in Argentina’s psychiatric institutions, where the average length of institutionalization is 9 years. Three of every four people detained in state-run institutions are warehoused in asylums of 1,000 beds or more.
Ruined Lives exposes widespread abuse and neglect in these institutions, including people burning to death in isolation cells, complete sensory deprivation in long-term isolation, forced sterilization and sexual and physical abuse. In one psychiatric penal ward in Buenos Aires, men were locked naked in tiny, barren isolation cells with no light or ventilation for months at a time. At another institution, four people burned to death while locked in isolation cells, and the day before investigators’ visit, a young woman had been forcibly sterilized. In this same institution, investigators found toilets overflowing with excrement and floors flooded with urine.
http://www.disabilityrightsintl.org/work/country-projects/argentina/
People with disabilities suffer severe forms of discrimination in Argentina. Everywhere disabled people turn, they are treated as different, abnormal and ...
http://www.disabilityrightsintl.org/work/country-projects/argentina/
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Feb 04th, 2012 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/who/
Feb 05th, 2012 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Britain should tremble :-)
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Feb 05th, 2012 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know this person where does he lives now....??
Feb 05th, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http:///www.desaparecidos.org/arg/victimas/l/lopezcarlos/
Do you know these persons where do they live know....??
Feb 05th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.desaparecidos.org/arg/victimas/r/rosenfeld/
interesting pictures ...aren't they ..??!!
The Falklanders want to remain as a British Overseas Territory and have NO interest in being a part of argentina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feb 05th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK will DEFEND that Right, Politically and by Force if necessary!!
Long Live the Falklands.
Down with argentine Colonialism.
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Feb 05th, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentines are not very bright, given the choice between fascism and democracy they have chosen fascism every time. Given the choice between American hegemony and being an independent nation, they have chosen America hegemony every time, characterised by its attendant secret police (NSA, CIA, Special Forces and other such gestapo trappings, including their own) and an attendant military or militant right government.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Given the choice between being diplomacy and child like spats of anger and lies, they choose child like spats of anger and lies.
Argentina has never recovered from being a wannabe be Axis power in the 1930's. Argentina's version of fascism (like that of Spain's) remained undefeated by WW2 Allied powers. It hadn't even had to fight a real civil war to maintain power, just murder 50,000-100,000 of its own unarmed political activists and we all know how easy that was for their brave and heroic military men, like their hero Commander Astiz.
It took the Falklands War to shake the Argentines into some semblance of reality. Remove their military government and see the Americans as something other than a benevolent uncle, rather more like a the uncle you kept your children away from, you know the one in the old mack who always had his hands in his pockets and a grimace on his lips.
But within a few short years a girl came alone, a wannabe Eva Peron and took them all the way back to year zero! And the Argentine people gave up their collective memory and switched back to servile child.
In the West it's very difficult to understand how the average Argentine thinks. We have to imagine how our own per-adolescent children think and we can then get into their mindset. Give them a box of toy soldiers & some flags to play with and they are as happy as pie, tell them that they can't own Tracey Island though and they will cry their eyes out.
At school, the teachers would always tell them “Tracey Island” was their's. Even though the reality was, it wasn't.
Helbert Galarga,
Feb 06th, 2012 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am going to stick with you. I have crossed fire with the Brits who post in this newspaper just for the sake to prove an hypothesis /jocke we have in Boston( since the late 1700's) about them. I realize that there are a few joke;and most are not only jokes but true life in the mind of each Brit. Monty Python's producer could hire them all.
According to the Democratic-Monarchic(?) nation, the world has to wait until they are conquer by them. Would not be nice to be the crew of servants of the Royal Family?
They are a live joke
95 you are not first
Feb 06th, 2012 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is the worst English i have seen on here and you are from Boston? Is that Boston, England or Boston, USA? Obviously English is not your first, second, third or fourth language.
You are right Benito. This is my fourth language. Secondly, I do not correct my English, especially when I am traveling in a ferri from Black Island to Rhode Island. Third and most importantly I am Argentinian
Feb 06th, 2012 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 97 you are not first
Feb 06th, 2012 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you are Argentine start to take more interest in the politics of our country and not side issues like this. When has the Malvinas issue ever promised to solve our economy? Only when the people charged with overseeing it are incompetent fools and want something to distract us from their incompetence.
Secondly if you're in Boston don't claim to be a Bostonian, when was the last time you seen America being any use to us? You know about the School of the Americas? You know about Operation Condor? You know about the Latin American Coups? Read! Read! Read!
Four languages is good but useless if you don't understand how the system works.
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Feb 06th, 2012 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0** 98 Benito
Feb 06th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0really...you comment like hawks not sparrows......!
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Feb 06th, 2012 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0We welcome UK recognition of the british illegal aliens occupying Islas Malvinas Argentina and we all hope they soon repatriate all their british inplanted civilians back to UK as USA does with Mexicans and as UK does with Romanian gypsys. unless they really believe that white trash racist have more rights then LatinAmericans, if they want to stay in Malvinas Argentina we can set a native recervation like the ones we have in Canada for native people, what's good enought for natives should be good enought for colonists and pirats.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Benito,
Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0You should read more in other areas. By they the School the Americas are located in VA. What does to do with it? I am sorry if I did not pay the membership of your Argentian Arian Nation and Tea Party. Who the hell you are? San Martin?
Anda a CAGAR
@103
Feb 07th, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“La escuela de las Americas”, was a program initiated by the US to train military personnel located in Panama (guerrilla warfare, special forces, jungle warfare, etc) . Coronel “el Milo” Seineldin was on of the directors in the 80's . Are we talking about the same thing?
103 you are not first
Feb 07th, 2012 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do not know what the School of the Americas is?
For your information -
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/a_f/espada/imperialism.htm
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/a_f/espada/imperialism.htm
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/a_f/espada/imperialism.htm
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/a_f/espada/imperialism.htm
Don't call me a Tea Party member because I do not support your views.
Or Argentinian Arian Nation - what has this to do with what I said?
Grow up and read. Time to take yourself out of that flag you have wrapped yourself up in, along with the other children and start learning about the real world not the one the government tells you about.
Time to realize people that claiming other peoples land doesn't make you brave, it makes you stupid.
Time to realize that others have a point of view and that insulting them doesn't win your argument, it only proves you lost it.
The Malvinas ? Falklands belongs to the people who live there. End of statement of fact. No matter how many years you wish to dig up comical fantasy claims over it, does not change that fact. Learn to accept other people have a right.
@102 Pirat-Hunter
Feb 07th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“white trash racist”, no bigotry involved then.
You only get to put a conquered people on reservations.
Unlike Atahualpa, the British have more than just bows and arrows with which to defend their territory from Conquistadors.
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