The rumours of a constitutional amendment in Argentina which could include a re-re-election review privileging a possible third consecutive mandate for President Cristina Fernandez have again resurfaced and this time by a close confident of the Kirchner family. Read full article
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Feb 06th, 2012 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hope it doesn't happen.
third consecutive mandate!! sound very good!!!Come on Crissstinaaa!!
Feb 06th, 2012 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0He's just flying a kite to see how badly it gets shot down. Argentines would have to be daft to agree to this. The first step on a very slippery slope.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0No respect for the Constitution....a very dangerous path to tread.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are stupid enough as a people to vote for it.... and what follows will serve them bloody well right...
Feb 06th, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares
Feb 06th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0The first step to outright dictatorship. And the sad fact is the majority of argentines that actually vote will vote in favour, whilst those that are against it will not vote out of fear of repercussions, as they still remember what happens when they go against the ruling parties - They disappear and are thrown out of planes, who could blame them for being afraid to vote?
Feb 06th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Teaboy2...
Feb 06th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0posting as if it were still 1982! Deluded muppet if I ever saw one...
You know what gave you away mate?
This:
whilst those that are against it will not vote out of fear of repercussions, as they still remember what happens when they go against the ruling parties - They disappear and are thrown out of planes, who could blame them for being afraid to vote?
such an uniformed statement.
You know what they say about the Brits, right? Too many years of inbreeding has made you not only ugly but stupid
8 Helber Galarga
Feb 06th, 2012 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is an old saying: it takes on to know one. :o)
8 Helber Galarga
Feb 06th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You remonstrate against Teaboyz making such an uninformed statement, then in the very next breath make one yourself. That means you are either a: a hypocrite, or b: stupid.
I don't see any problem with a discussion to change the Argentine constitution to allow more than two terms, after all a British Prime Minister can serve idefinitely as log as they continue to get voted into power.
What should be a worry for an Argentine is the talk of this while the Kirchner government also passes laws intended to gain a higher degree of control of the press.
With the two acts combined the Kirchener government is looking more and more like an authoritarian regime.
Sorry Helber but you simply can not deny that those actions by the military junta are not still freash in the living memories of the argentine population. To call me deluded for pointing out what is likely the truth is nothing more but a delusionary comment in itself. As its clear you can not accept what is likely the truth, probably because you fear it yourself.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for inbreeding, is that the best insult you can come up with. Surely someone with your level of intelligence can come up with a better insult towards me that is not based on your own family history. For the record i am, in fact, quarter Irish, my mother being halve irish and my dad by 100% english, how that works out as me being the product of inbreeding is anyones guess.
I clearly touched a nerve in my last post, didn't i Helber, you yourself making it clear you do not want CFk to have a third term in your first post i believe. Maybe i hit upon your own fears, and you evidently and as expected from someone who has the fears i pointed out, hit back purely in denial. It is well know that man always hits back in denial off their deepest fears. So yes your reaction was expected, though not necessary from you but from others too.
@Chris and Legion - Thank you for your support it is very much appreciated ;)
Feb 06th, 2012 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She barely started the 2nd term and now we are talking about the 3rd? Is it time to get the tanks out or not? ;-)
Feb 06th, 2012 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#4 Its not disrespectful to the constitution to discuss changing it by...constitutional means! After all no country's constitution is sacred scripture, even the Americans have a whole raft of ammendemnets, including one from the 50s banning re-election (after Roosevelt won 4 terms in a row). My country doesn't even have a constitution lol!
Feb 06th, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am Argentine and feel admiration for the way that England has continually updated the equipment of its armed forces. I feel that the best thing that happened to the Islanders is the arrival of Kirchner to power, members of a stupidly romantic youth of the 70 who wanted to achieve Socialist Fatherland in Argentina's arming itself against the bourgeois state thus forming the ERP guerrillas and Montoneros. Obviously the regular Army's response was unequivocal during the military dictatorship to the point that in 82 is not no guerrillas in the Argentine territory. This is where the hatred and resentment of the Kirchner everything that means military power, reducing to a minimum. Today we only have to protect military 50000 3000000 km2, luckily we have peace with our neighbors, but would disappear as a nation. So you can sleep peacefully pray for Cristina Islanders (for most who do not want much) as she is in power there will never be a major military force threatening peace.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hopefully our hermanos wont let cfk perpetuate in power. Open your eyes, even Lula dont made it, we brazilians know the value of democracy, Argentina must know too.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't worry Dan Moura!
Feb 06th, 2012 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many a persidents have tried for a consecutive 3rd term and failed.
This one has not tried yet! If she does, she will also fail. No doubts about that.
However, the most important bit in this post is, she has not tried yet.
Get a grip Helber... you have a simple choice .... that ugly old thief that you have at present or that mutant toad like creature she calls her son.... either way... you are stuffed... people get the governments they deserve... you deserve them...
Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the constitutional change is the one I believe it is, the 4 years more of Cristina is a price worth to pay even if it's not the best thing around.
Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@18 Frank
Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Gee Frank! easy there, mate! Looks like you might be the one needing to get a grip by the tone of your post *roll eyes*
Don't forget to take your valium before going to bed *lol*
@10LegionNi,
Feb 07th, 2012 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0You said that Helber is EITHER a hypocrite OR stupid?
l'd say that he's both.
The restrictions in the Constitution were put there for a reason, and all Argentine democrats will know precisely why that was. If CFK feels strongly that this is an un-necessary restriction on democratic development then she should sponsor a change to the Constitution for future administrations. If she does it for her own it will look just like the Chavez attempt at creating a hegomonic dynasty.
Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands related or not, this is a highly autocratic and centralised administration that is intolerant of opposing views. To change the Constitution to continue this marginal democracy would not be good for Argentina and not good for the region.
#15 Although from your tone I take it you like the junta and hate the Kirchners at least you have some sense of reality. The Argentine military has been defanged to protect primarily the Argentine people, but the Islanders also have nothing to fear from this peaceful leftist government. However with the threat of war shelved, Cristina's diplomacy may yet prove succesful in resolving the dispute, especially with the clear iniquity of the oil heist planned by Cameron and co
Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 023 British_Kirchnerist
Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oil heist by Cameron & Co. any evidence to back this up: the Isalnders can tell you who is going to profit and it had better not be the likes of you.
Why not go back to the 'Homeland' and stop sucking our taxes you hypocritical parasite.
wow!! I can feel the disturbance in the force already ..... so early though :-)
Feb 07th, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#24 Because of self-determination, my dear hypocrite! Because my homeland is your homeland! Its extraordinary, you support the Islanders' self determination” to excuse Cameron from even sitting down with Cristina (even though he's not fit to tie her shoelaces anyway!) and steal Argentina's oil, but won't seem to allow Scotland's self determination to remain in the UK and block your Tory mates from their pipe dream of a one-party England. I actually also dissaprove, as an internationalist, of Salmond's proposal to keep Scotland's oil wealth after independence but leave London to foot the bill for the Fred Goodwin's disastous banking adventures which he supported at the time. So you see I don't fit the anti-British caricature you have of me, I just don't support my country right or wrong a slogan if I remember right coined in defence of the needless Vietnam war
Feb 07th, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26 British_Kirchnerist,
Feb 08th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you really know who you are or what you want?
You seem at odds with yourself.
Your ramblings do the Falklanders immeasurable harm.
The malvinistas just love uninformed people like yourself.
As l once asked you, how would you like it to be invited to sit down & negotiate the rights to your house with someone who had absolutely no rights(to your house)at all?
Knowing all the time that this person's interpretation of the wordnegotiateonly meant a time-frame when you were going to turn your house over to them?
Don't thunk you'd laike it atall, as they say in Georgia.
You don't live here, so please don't support deluded peope who think that they have a right to dispossess the people that do.
Please think deeply on this. Thank you.
27 lsolde
Feb 08th, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice try Isolde, I hope he will consider you plea instead of spouting his 'I am an internationalist' cobblers and don't forget he is a Scottish Argentino after all.
He is probably in Argentina anyway and just another Ogaga.
26 British_Kirchnerist
Feb 08th, 2012 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are really great, mate!!! I hope that Scotland could be a free country soon.
29 Kiwisarg
Feb 09th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope that Scotland could be a free country soon. But British_Kirchnerist DOES NOT WANT THIS you idiot and he has stated that on MercoPress.
The reason he does not want the fabled 'freedom' peddled by Salmon Face and the Hag is that he would LOSE MONEY. England would no longer pay £2000 (USD 3,160) per year by every man, woman and child to subsidise the Scots.
They should leave the union and the sooner the better and we should insist those Scots living 'South of the Border' should be sent back: see how they like that.
Chris,
Feb 09th, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am following the process and is quite interesting , splitting of the debt, revenues from the North Sea, Defense, location of Nuclear Sub Station? is that all worth it? Just a question
I only raised my opposition to Scottish independence to show that I am not the caricature of a self-hating Brit or Brit hating Scot some people here take me for. And no its not because i'm worried about losing money, quite the opposite in fact, I don't think 5 million Scots should deprive 50 million English of the North Sea oil (maybe even Conqueror agrees with that one!) but likewise I don't see how 3 thousand islanders can siphon off the South Atlantic oil from 20 million Argentines. You see I actually believe in fairness, and I have more in common with a trade unionist in Sheffield than a banker in Edinburgh!
Feb 09th, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 032 British_Kirchnerist
Feb 09th, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think you have a clue about what you stand for, it seems to change that often.
And get your facts right, it is not difficult: there are 45 million Argies or rather Wops, neo-Nazi's, Spanish, first generation mainly, INCLUDING your Darling Old Smooth Neck herself. Check out the scar-check out WHERE it should be. She blubbed in Spain how her parents had moved to Argentina.
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