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Argentina is welcome to take Falklands ‘militarization’ to UN, but also principle of self determination
There was considerable anticipation and speculation in the Falkland Islands on Tuesday as residents and visitors alike waited to hear Argentine president Cristina Kirchner’s much-publicized evening announcement. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhy not self-determinating in a land that hasn't been seized and stolen by the UK?? :P
Feb 08th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“give peace a chance” Brits go to the negotiation table!! It is only way!! Gordito's Cameron.
Feb 08th, 2012 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina is welcome to take Falklands ‘militarization’ to UN”
Feb 08th, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you Mike, we were waiting for your permission..
By the way Mike, are the Chagossians back to their homeland?
Kirchner has obviously been listening to too many John Lennon songs whilst she was getting more plastic surgery.
Feb 08th, 2012 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice way to treat your veterans - on the end of a police beating. Does it remind you of anything Oh yes “the Junta”
i very much hope that the UN refers CFK to the ICJ,
Feb 08th, 2012 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then we can sort this out, once and for all,
and i know you will all agree, as you have all agreed she has done the right thing, [has she not]
4 “on the end of a police beating”
Feb 08th, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Liar.
@ 6 Bite me
Feb 08th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 2 OFF. Pick an English four-letter word to precede “OFF”. Could you wait while we decide our response. Five thousand years would be about right. And then we'll provide you with something to sit on. Sharp and made of steel.
Feb 08th, 2012 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Please see response to the sh*tface at 2.
I wonder if 2 and 3 would have the guts to cross a defended Falklands beach. Courageous juvenile children pretending to be “keyboard warriors”. What a good idea if the Wicked Plastic Witch of the South told them to go and take the Falklands. Result? 5 or 6 hours of p*ssing and sh*tting their pants and throwing up. Try to remember, girls, c*cksucking is not classed as first aid. No matter how much you like it.
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Feb 08th, 2012 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My research proves that Britain has had a continuous claim to Argentina since 1806. It is as relevant as the Argentine claim over the Falkland Islands and I propose the UK government take it to the UN.
Feb 08th, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I propose an economic and shipping blockade by Latin America, Royal Navy harassment of Argentine shipping, the suspension of air links and constant ratcheting up of the rhetoric and tension, followed by a claim that Argentina is militarising itself in defence. And a call on the UN Security Council to take action against them.
There we go. I am sure you can see our claim is as relevant as theirs
@ 9 This is not India, this is Argentina and The Falklands. Will you grow a brain someday?
Feb 08th, 2012 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 8 I like your comments.
What a way to treat your veterans. Using them as puppets and then setting the police onto them. Disgraceful! Why am I surprised?
Feb 08th, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Summers should have donated some fishing revenue to the Mental health fund with the proviso that CFK takes advantage of the facility :-)
Feb 08th, 2012 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I like your comments” Buuuaaaaa, pu##y.
Feb 08th, 2012 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My research proves that Britain has had a continuous claim to Argentina since 1806. It is as relevant as the Argentine claim over the Falkland Islands and I propose the UK government take it to the UN.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHA!!
@ 14 what?
Feb 09th, 2012 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWhtcU4-xAM
SELF DETERMINATION = INDEPENDENCE
Feb 09th, 2012 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Kelpers should formally declare their independence and elevate the status of the Falklands Islands as a sovereign state.
Argentine claim was that spain landed on islands before uk but after France. Argentina didnt even exist when uk landed. So Spain a European country was ok to claim territory but the UK was not, please explain the logic. But other countries are ok to still hold French Guyana, Guam , Marshall Islands etc etc Pearl Harbour. Get real and take it to court, but you wont because deep down you know the historical facts dont back you (not the propaganda you are taught at school)
Feb 09th, 2012 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is such a joke. I feel sorry for the good Argentinians, as it seems their country is being run by a mad woman. I hear she has introduced many freedom restricting laws lately, such as stopping free press and limits on trade. Their country is turning into a corrupt dictatorship, and she wonders why the Falklanders don't want to be part of it?
Feb 09th, 2012 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has been acting like a child who wants its siblings toy.
Argentina: Can we have the Falklands please? They're ours.
Britain: No, they're not yours and never were.
Argentina: They are ours, we found them.
Britain: No Argentina, you weren't even born when we found them, were you now?
Argentina: But they're 300 miles off our coast they must be ours.
Britain: No, and besides people live there who don't want to give their home away.
Argentina: They are ours. We want them.
Britain: ...
Argentina: Right we'll take them by force.
2 Months Later:
Britain: Well that was a bit silly wasn't it? Now people are dead because of you. Just to make sure that you don't do it again we'll keep some defenses there.
30 Years Later:
Argentina: Can we have the Falklands please? Oh, and Georgia, that's ours too.
Britain: No.
Argentina: They're ours.
Britain: No they're not.
Argentina: Can we talk about having the Falklands please?
Britain: No. We've had this conversation before and don't want it again.
Argentina: You're being aggressive and colonialist.
Britain: No we're not. You're the aggressors here, just leave it.
Argentina: We're telling our friends on you, now you can't use their ports.
Britain: That's a bit childish.
Argentina: Now you're threatening us by this sudden military presence.
Britain: No, the defenses are still there in the same place. And we've sent the Prince on a peaceful search and rescue posting to our territory.
Argentina: Right we're TELLING on you, you're being mean.
Britain: Go ahead. You signed the UN charter which includes a right to self determination.
@19markd,
Feb 09th, 2012 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0very funny & true, too!
can we have Antarctica as well?
NO!
@19markd,
Feb 09th, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0very funny & true, too!
can we have Antarctica as well?
NO!
AHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
Stupid brits
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS!!
It's a shame that such serious and well balanced articles attract many commentators who spiral into crude and disrespectful language, to make a point, which loses credibility because of it; counter productive and a sure sign of insecurity.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a general comment I would say that peoples of nations that are lead by politicians who are better at creating conflict, than a mature and peaceful solution, should focus their attention on putting them in check. The conflicts they create often result in the death and mutilation of many their country's youth, and those—including innocent women and children—of their opponents. The great majority of the world's leaders behave childishly when defending their political patch, or their (often misplaced) honor on the international stage.
They also ignore—to a large extent—the will of the people they were elected to represent: 84% of Brits were against the Iraque war, but Tony Blair allowed himself to be guided by hubris and was completely out maneuvered by Bush—who is far less intelligent, but extremely cunning—and sent home to do his will.
We as 'the people' should 'Arab Spring' our leaders into behaving more responsibly, and truly represent the long term interests of their people.
The best actual example is that of the American Congress and Senate— a greater bunch of irresponsible children who put political power above the interests of their people is pretty stunning.
19 markd very good mate, these children will never learn,
Feb 09th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as you see when Malvinero1 replies.
19 markd
Feb 09th, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very good, your little sit-com script is funny, yet very true and just about sums up how silly this has become. The Botox Queen should be sent to her room without her supper and given a smack on her plastic arse! The trouble is, a percentage of her people believe and agree with her. No wonder we have had to suffer so many wars, did they learn nothing from history...oh, I forgot, the Agentines only learn their own home spun history and not world history.
What will she say if Cameron sends illustrious
Feb 09th, 2012 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And ocean, south with the diamond for exercises in the summer.
do you think it may be seen as provocative lol.
@ 19 markd: very funny comment. You make me laugh, in fact it is the UK the one that has changed many times its fundaments about its rights over the islands.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the Argentina is not asking people living at the Malvinas to leave, they can have their own language, traditions, way of living and trade agreements with foreign countries, it is just that the land they are standing on was seized by the UK.
“Their country is turning into a corrupt dictatorship” LOL this is real upside-down version. Don't you know that this government has done a lot for Human Rights, not only in Argentina? Don't you know that this Government has taken strong participation in rescueing hostages from FARC in Colombia?
Don't you know that this Government has done a lot to prevent strong attempts of Coup dEtat in Ecuador and Bolivia while the BBC and CNN (said to be strong defenders of freedom) were showing its back to it?
We have never such a democratic government, and restrictions are for corporations, that's why international media is telling you lies and that's what you are buying.
You have really no fundaments to say all this, try to write responsibly.
@ 22 Rogbahia: I agree with you about the politicians and the “Arab Spring” thing. However, I think that countries are not lead by politicians only, and many times these are only the visible face of a leadership that is held in the hands of people who nobody voted for, and for corporations and markets.
So... politicians can be good, bad, corrputed, honest, etc. But please don't forget those that are not politicians and even then determinate our life everyday.
And one thing more: I don't think these articles are not so serious and balanced. In fact they respond to a specific ideology, they always defend corporative interests in Southamerica. Their interest is not the defense of democracy in this part of the world, their interest is not to defend peaceful claims, their interest has nothing to do with ordinary people.
26 fermin
Feb 09th, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Point well taken; I agree.
Self determination is for “ pueblo” (specifically in english doesnt exist a word for this), not for poblaciones implantadas o importadas.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is a pueblo. In 1810, we the pueblo, send colonizators back to their europe, and recovered what they have stolen. South americans for southamericans.
If you are british go to britain.
26 fermin
Feb 09th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Point taken and credit given when it is due, however, the whole question about self dermination is left out in your comment other than the little caviat where you say 'And the Argentina is not asking people living at the Malvinas to leave, they can have their own language, traditions, way of living and trade agreements with foreign countries, it is just that the land they are standing on was seized by the UK'.
Where is the part where they can choose what Government and Nation they want? The wishes of the islanders are the key and as things stand, Argentina have no chance what so ever in having them choose them over the UK, give us some reasons why they should? I bet there are many more reasons why they should not! Now lets see if Argentina under the Botox Queen can encourage trust with the islands...Mmm, no, that will not happen at the moment. Trust is earned and so is respect, both of which is sadly lacking, no matter how many 'good' deeds are done as none of these deeds have been done to make Britain or the Falkland Islands feel any better about Argentina.
Question of the day: If we (Argentines) have no claim over Malvinas, why was an option of a lease back before 82? ;-)
Feb 09th, 2012 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30 because, believe it or not, we are a peaceful nation and like to try to be diplomatic. but the people on the Falklands didn't want to be part of Argentina.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 Argentina is a nation of European colonist descendants. Lets do a deal, we'll leave the Falklands if you leave Argentina? Fairs fair.
@26 Fair points. I'll be honest, nothing against the Argentinians, but i don't like Kirchner. Her 'peaceful' methods of bullying are reminiscent of dictatorial leaders. Argentina does not have a good track record, from supporting the Nazis in WW2 to being a hostile dictatorship in the 80's, yet they preach about Britain being colonial from the 1800's. Her closest political ally appears to be the anti-american dictator Hugo Chavez.
Kirchner should be focusing at her home country, instead she is stirring up hate. Whatever happens, this is not a good thing. There will be ignorant people that hate us now, because of her foul words and ill informed principles. What good does she think can come of this? The worst would be another war, who would win is anyone's guess. But many will die, that's for certain. The other possibilities are that we give her the Falklands, against the islanders wishes, and they have the choice of being under Argentinas rule or leaving the place they were born. Or we stay put, as the islanders have requested, and she continues bullying and isolating a peaceful island. What would you suggest?
With regard to Britain's military deterrent, we all know what would have happened if it were not there. A quote from Aristophanes(a greek poet, 446-386BC):
“It is from their foes, not their friends, that cities learn the lesson of building high walls and ships of war. And this lesson saves their children, their homes, and their properties.”
@30 Artillero 601
Feb 09th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The war changed things, before the British did try to reach an accom0diation with Argentina everyone could live with.
After, nothing to discuss any issues were settled by the war.
End of.
@30 Artillero: ”Question of the day: If we (Argentines) have no claim over Malvinas, why was an option of a lease back before 82? ;-)“ Ver good point, one of the hundreads that make self-determination argument become obsolete, like all the arguments that the UK has had over history to keep a foot in the islands.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 29 BritishLion: People living in the Malvinas can choose the Government and nation they want, of course, but if they choose to be part of the UK they should go and live on a territory that hasn't been seized by them.
If I invade your house today, put you away and let other people live working for me there, tomorrow you will still have your wright to have it back, no?
And the president you call the ”botox queen” was elected by a huge majority of Argentinians in elections, in democracy, and a real one, and with a lot of press against. I am not a fan of her, but when I see the corporations and interests that go against her I realize that this Government has done a lot for ordinary people, and there are a lot of real facts.
I can't think the same about Cameron, or about Prince William, or about his grandmother or Harry. I don't see them doing much for democracy, for ordinary people's life. The royalty even enjoys owning these islands while kelpers think they rule them. They just like owning the islands and the people there like they enjoy having a cat or a dog...
You defend a very dishonest populism, but you come and claim against a president elected in clean elections, who talks, looks and speaks like ordinary argentinians, who studied at the same public university I do, who doesn't spend luxury holidays, who is 24/7 working like we haven't seen in our whole history of presidents.
And for those talking about DEFENSE or WAR understand this: War has been and is a good business for a little group of people, and they try to provoque, but Argentina can't stand another war and is determined not to have one.
This is honestly what I think.
2nd Question of the day:
Feb 09th, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did the UK (and probably the Americans too) used Galtieri ('82) as a “tool” to end the so called “ sovereignty dispute over the Islands” ? provoking a war ..... ?
@fermin - you're an idiot. you've ignored all of my points and just gone on to quote inaccurate 'facts'. Just another poorly educated moron, i shan't bother trying to communicate with you any further.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 Artillero 601
Feb 09th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, that idiot almost certainly did it all by himself.
@36 lol !!!!!!!
Feb 09th, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True but ! to be honest with you and obviously is only a theory , they guy was setup. I can't back it up yet ;-)
35 markd: I have read all your comment, I have nothing against you and I don't even know you. It is just that you wrote a lot of things that have no fundaments. How can I answer to that??
Feb 09th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You brought the word nazi to relate it to Cristina fernandez Government. Tell me: if Cristina is in that tendence also why is her government with the support of a lot of ONGs fighting with anti-democratic corporations? Why did this government gave shelter to foreigners from neighbour countries in stead of invading them like it happened very often in Europe and why can same-sex marriages adopt children in Argentina nowadays?
You describe Argentina in a very cliché and very banal way... mixing a million things that have nothing to do with each other.
All you defend is a warrior logic, and all the story you tell leads to war, and defense, and a supposed “aggression” from Argentina...
I was always polite to you, but you are disrespectful against me. Try to find another words in your dictionary that have more to do with discussion than to aggression.
@37 Artillero 601
Feb 09th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably was but most unlikely it was the British. To them he was a potential customer for arms sales. Not to mention he was almost as right wing as Margeret Thatcher, politically they were soulmates.
@38 I become hostile when i get an ignorant person saying that i'm wrong, when they provide no facts to back it up with.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the best point you made there was “You describe Argentina in a very cliché and very banal way... mixing a million things that have nothing to do with each other.”
How do you think Britain has been described lately? If its ok for you to call us colonialists all the time and bring up ancient history, then its ok for me to do the same. That's unless you don't believe in equality and free speech?
You're correct, i don't know every detail of the Argentine government. But what i do know is that its no better than ours, and in comparison it is a democracy still in its infancy. Hardly what i'd call stable, especially when your presidents main policy is an aggressive land grab.
Yes, there is a supposed 'aggression' from Argentina. The facts are:
1) Argentina want to change the status quo.
2) Argentina invaded once before.
You cannot argue with the above. Given those two facts alone, i think its only fair that we take precautions. Having military there is for defense only.
3) Argentina is a country made up from colonial powers.
Now, as you seem to be missing this very major point, and as such have no answer to it, i'll say it again. You are a descendant of Europeans. You are a hostile force in your own country. As such, how can you dare to tell us that we shouldn't be in the Falklands? You have no answer to this, as its a cold hard fact that you'd rather forget. But for me, this is a big point. You're no different to the population on the Falklands, you were implanted there when the Spanish invaded. So, if we give away the Falklands, will you also give away your home?
4) The Falklanders don't want to be ruled by Argentina. They wish to remain British.
What can you say to this? You believe they have the right to self determination, as long as its Argentina? But when they choose us, thats not ok?
@39
Feb 09th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He was not a very qualified General to begin with ( do I have to clarify it?) and I don't even how he became the President of the Junta at that time ..... Oh well, fuck it, I gave up :-)
Oh please, does Mrs. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner actually believe the UN has any ability to help her? The UN??????? Oh please, some one please help her view of reality. Poor Argentina, its hopeless. - Millet USA
Feb 09th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34Artillero601,
Feb 09th, 2012 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l agree,
l believe that Argentina was “lured” into invading the Falklands to end the matter once and for all(but it didn't!).
The same way that Japan was “lured” into attacking Pearl Habour.
Despite my belief, l still think that Argentina has no claim or rights to the Falklands.
The Falklands belong to the Falklanders & NO-ONE ELSE.♥
33 fermin
Feb 09th, 2012 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How selfish and arrogant is that,
[They can choose there own government,
But if they choose British, then sod off, but if argentine they can stay
Arrogance like that will get to nowhere,
Will you ever learn to listen,
The islanders have voted to remain British
And they want nothing to do with you,
Now you can lie, shout scream threaten all you want, but facts are facts
They are not yours, and never will be
And the British government has stated that they will defend them,
It’s that simple
But alas not in yours cases .
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@40 markd: I never said the islanders have the right to self-determination as long as they choose Argentina, I say that if they want to be ruled by the United Kingdom they should do it in a land that hasn't been seized by them. islanders can remain british, have their culture, have double-nationality, keep their language official at the islands, and have representation at the Argentinian Congress, but if they want to be ruled by the United Kingdom they go and live in a land that the UK hasn't seized.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you can't stay calm and discuss without being aggressive then you should deal with it in another way, it won't be healthy for you at the end of the day.
And you may be right about other's describing the UK in a banal way. I can tell you that I always try to keep generalizations away from my words, that's why I always refer to right-wingers, elite corporations and conservatives like Cameron as the responsible for colonization, wars, massacres, etc. I am sure it is not the will of the whole UK. In fact many at the UK do not think that their Government has wrights over the Malvinas.
It is funny to call Argentina aggressive when the UK is sending nuclear weapons right now to this side of the world. The Royal Army has even invaded Asian countries not so far ago with the excuse of a “threaten of nuclear weapons development”.
And the British Government knows this, it is just that it is better for them to convert everything into an armed conflict (although war will never happen because Argentina can't support it and doesn't want to). For the elite they represent the grabbing of natural resources is very important and it is the real cause behind the “self-determination” issue. War is also a good business for defense industries.
@42 Millet: Do you really think that our Government expects the UN to do much about this? We are doing what we can, with what we have.
@43
Feb 10th, 2012 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Talking about Pearl Harbour ... FDR, asked if Germans planes were involved in the attack , looking for a reason to declare war against them?
PS: you guys have being there since 1833, you must have some ownership :-)))))))
Fermin, give it up. Your desire for the future of the Falklands is never going to happen. I 'm sure in your heart you know it. Argentina is not capable of doing anything to change the present situation. - Millet USA
Feb 10th, 2012 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fermin,
Feb 10th, 2012 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are off your trolley! Where and What Nuclear weapons is UK bringing to the islands and South Atlantic?
The only Nuclear weapons UK has a on the Vanguard Ballistic Missile Class Submarines - and they do NOT come into this area at all.
Next thing you will be telling us that UK evicted all the people here in 1833!- even when your own history archives tell you that was not true!
Fermin, firstly we may have obtained the islands rightly or wrongly many many years ago. Neither you or i was alive back then so we can't ever be 100% certain about the real truth. Either way, these things have happened since the beginning of recorded history.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 05:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fact is, its been ours for about 200 years or so. Our government may well want it for strategic resources, just like the rest of the world wants resources. Are any of those resources more yours than mine? Who decides who gets what? Argentina backed out of discussions over profit sharing, their loss and our gain.
Lastly, i don't think Cameron has anything to do with colonization, like i said before you're talking about ancient history and you're representing a country of colonist descendants.
And don't worry, i'm sure the UK isn't going to nuke anybody. I'm surprised you'd even think like that. What lies must they be feeding you over there.
Fermin: 'People living in the Malvinas can choose the Government and nation they want, of course, but if they choose to be part of the UK they should go and live on a territory that hasn't been seized by them.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0If I invade your house today, put you away and let other people live working for me there, tomorrow you will still have your wright to have it back, no?'
What a load of nonsense Fermin! See how you have contradicted yourself! I think I am flogging a dead horse here!
45 fermin
Feb 10th, 2012 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See, this is what happens when indoctrinated people say crap, and expect the world to believe them,
The world, it seems, knows more abt the British that you deluded guys ever will,
Lies upon lies,
1, you say
Like Cameron as the responsible for colonization, wars, massacres, etc.
Eye say
Name one country that Cameron has colonized, name one country, that Cameron has been involved in, that has resulted in wars, massacres, committed by the British .
…………………………………………………
.you say
But if they want to be ruled by the United Kingdom they go and live in a land that the UK hasn't seized.
Eye say
Does that mean they can all go to Argentina then?
You say
It is funny to call Argentina aggressive when the UK is sending nuclear weapons right now to this side of the world. The Royal Army has even invaded Asian countries
Eye say
Argentina, not only burns British flags but is destroying British property, Argentina has and is threatening , abusing , intimidating , blockading , and insulting the islanders,[and you say Argentina is not aggressive ,??Also name me where these nuclear weapons are, [do you personally know there are nuclear weapons in the south Atlantic, and also tell me WHO is this royal army, what country are they from, and who have they invaded,[but what has this got to do with the British in the Falklands][more distraction again ]
You say
(although war will never happen because Argentina can't support it and doesn't want to).
Eye say
If you do not want conflict, then why the hell are you pushing for THAT very thing??
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@51 Briton - you're wasting your time mate. Trying to use reason and logic against these people is futile. They only respond with ignorance and emotion, true to their backwards nation.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0markd & briton
Feb 10th, 2012 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I said, flogging a dead horse. It might take longer to educate these backwards and brainwashed people who know no better due to the lies they have been told since junior school classroom. Once re-educated, we might have a chance...so keep on flogging the dead horse.
We are probably better of with the donkeys,
Feb 10th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But try we will
Thanks mates.
Is all this talk producing anything? It is what it is, no matter who likes it or not. Nothing is going to change. The UK is much to powerful, and Argentina is much to weak, to ever do anything about the situation. Alas, Argentina is left with nothing to do, but cry on the solder of anyone who will listen. This is my last post on this subject for a while, I have certainly much better things to do with my life, than listen to poor old Argentina crying . - Millet USA
Feb 10th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@46 Artillero601,
Feb 11th, 2012 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Google Automedon,
A British merchant ship intercepted by a German raider in the Malacca Straits, in l think 1940 or 1941.
What are your conclusions?
My word, three days later, and I see the banter continues; I hope this comment column doesn't reflect in any way the time the idiocy of Kirchner and Cameron will continue; they have so much to fix at home—a result of decades of governmental mismanagement. What children we have to lead us; the islanders have the right to self determination, so what's all the gabble about—a false sense of national pride from the UK and Argentinia?
Feb 11th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pretty much the story mankind on this planet; it was doing fine till we decided we were better than the animals. Remember the famous illustration of an ape evolving into a man, standing up and walking off with an axe? Well I saw a marvelous addition of a man coming in the opposite direction and saying, “Go back, we fucked up everything”!
that would be an argentinian then .lol.
Feb 11th, 2012 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is Argentine islands and Argentine oil, being drilled by colonial pirates, protect by pirate ships, sooner all destroyed better.
Feb 12th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly, Malvinas is Argentine, claim exist since before Argentina exist. This is well documented that we renounce claim in 1850 but claim was resurrected under Peron who traveled to Italy and adopted policies of Mussolini fascist party in order to make Argentina great nation that it became.
As part of expanded living space, we must continue this policy and we must take over Terra del Fuego and Beagle Channel and then Malvinas.
My grandfather while working for Intelligence visit Indonesia in 1976 to copy plans they used for invasion of Portuguese East Timor and removal of colonial population to be copied in invasion of Malvinas.
If we had copied these plans our invasion would be success and like East Timor is part of Indonesia, Malvinas would now be part of Argentina. World has very short memory.
In order to do good for our country we must do bad things. This is what my grandfather always says.
We know Malvinas never been under Argentine sovereignty but gifted to us by Papal Bull in 1496. No one can argue with Pope or God, that whole of South America given by him to Spain.
Go home colonial pirates w claim you land before our country exist, you can not argue with that. You live there almost 200 years illegally, you have no rights. We will own your homes, farms, businesses, oil and fish.
You will be made to speak Spanish, drive on right, obey our laws, live under our government and governor. In return we give you right to be reborn like our national hero James Peck.
James Peck is son of Malvinas War traitor Terry Peck, he was awarded MBE for helping British occupy our land. Unlike his father, James is brave, patriot, his father will be turning in his grave.
You can all be reborn like James Peck. Or you can die like Terry Peck!!!!
Aha! so that's what it's all about—OIL! Seem to have heard that somewhere before!!
Feb 12th, 2012 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0argentine greed will be her undoing,
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