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US diplomacy reiterates Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty is a bilateral issue
The US Acting Assistant Secretary for Western Hemisphere Affairs, Roberta Jacobson, ratified the Obama administration’s standing on the Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty issue, which urges Argentina and the United Kingdom to find a diplomatic exit to the matter. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThere is some quite interesting and telling diplomatic language being used here.
Feb 08th, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We PREFER that both countries negotiate a diplomatic solution in that matter.”
However, if push comes to shove.......well, you make your own mind up there.
Obviously the US is trying to sit in the middle. It can't lose the support of the UK, the UK is far too valuable to the US and it would be political suicide for Obama to go against the UK and lose its support.
Feb 08th, 2012 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's also trying to appease Argentina and not alienate South America given it would like to improve its trading links.
Although the USA would think all of its Christmas's have come at once if Chavez gave it a reason to attack since they have been trying to get rid of him for many years.
I do not see any of my Brits friends comment on it. I am my cold bitter friends but our big nation here will not be helpful if you insist to slave the world under your feet. Not with Obama
Feb 08th, 2012 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0interesting is it not, the americans give a tiny bit of adearence to argentina, and yet argentina and most other lating countries, hates her,
Feb 08th, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they dispise her, yet obama still still wishes not to hinder,
perhaps in november when obama is gone, the new president, will back britain, and argentina will just crawl away into the gutter,
but as long as they think obama loves them, there is hope ??
next mercopress will write a report of an interview with a penguin an icicle and a rock giving their opinion on why Islas Malvinas is british, and#4 will be the first to say “see all the support we have”
Feb 08th, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The US is using the velvet glove to try to get Argentina to honour their debts; that is the only reason. But the iron fist will be used if necessary.
Feb 08th, 2012 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's Hailey Cropper doing working for the US State Department?
Feb 08th, 2012 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you owe a small amount to a bank, they have you by the balls. I you owe them a huge amount you have them by the balls.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0:D
The US is using the velvet glove to try to get Argentina to honour their debts; that is the only reason. But the iron fist will be used if necessary.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0really? Any more stupid comments pro brits?
“Naval task force's chief in the 1982 Falklands War, Admiral Sir John “Sandy” Woodward has written to The Daily Telegraph that Britain can now do “precisely nothing” to stop Argentina from reclaiming the islands, amid unprecedented cuts to UK's defence forces.
Meanwhile, Admiral Woodward said that Britain has lost the US government's support in the ongoing dispute over the islands' sovereignty, since the State Department prefers a stable Argentina to a Britain in crisis.
The US played a significant role in the Falklands War by providing satellite intelligence and missiles to British troops.
But, now, with the emergence of Asian powers, and the end of the Cold War, the US no longer sees NATO and Britain as important. The State Department has already been calling the islands as “the Malvinas”, a name Argentina uses to call the islands.
Washington has once again put its weight behind Argentina when it endorsed Buenos Aires' call for negotiations to resolve the ongoing dispute over the chain of islands at the center of the 1982 war. ”
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184480.html
I wouldn't count on it Malvinero1
Feb 09th, 2012 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0The link you posted is from the state-owned media corporation 'Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting'. Anti-West propaganda and lies is their thing don't you know.
The link you posted is from the state-owned media corporation 'Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting'. Anti-West propaganda and lies is their thing don't you know.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0OK I will put another link:
Britain can do 'nothing' to prevent Argentina retaking Falkland Islands
The head of the Naval task force in the Falklands War has warned that defence cuts mean Britain can now do “precisely nothing” to prevent Argentina retaking the islands.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/8571442/Britain-can-do-nothing-to-prevent-Argentina-retaking-Falkland-Islands.html
US main interest is a “stable Argentina”, warns Falklands Task Force head
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/8571442/Britain-can-do-nothing-to-prevent-Argentina-retaking-Falkland-Islands.html
I seem to remember from my dissertation on the Falklands War that America offered Britain the use on an aircraft carrier in 1982? Apparently the Australians had also offered Britain the use of HMAS Melbourne . While New Zealand loaned the Royal Navy ships. While at the UN there was almost unanimity against Argentine aggression.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0All these enemies of Britain.
Oh my. Well we'll let you have the United States for now. See how you get on with them. We are by the way the only nation in the world that shares a seat on their National Security Council, part of the UKUSA Agreement. They kindly supplied the UK with all there satellite intelligence during the Falklands War.
There are friends and then there is family :)
Jo
“Crush the working classes” - HENRY KISSINGER's instructions to his bitch boys, the Argentine Junta. Don't forget those Fascist words.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 05:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW Why was Reagan buddies with the child-snatcher himself. Videla, who was one of the Junta, and thus indistinguishable from Galtieri.
Also, when the Junta was throwing students out of planes, shouldn't that have sent alarm bells ringing in the UK government? Hmmm?
HMMMMM???
Lost 1,
Feb 09th, 2012 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are lost. Review the current agreements that are going to be review in the next G20 meetings. China and India have a clear and solid agreement with Brasil.
Venezuela( 5th in oil) is reducing export to USA and Canada. The Mercosur trade is in working both among the continent as well as globally. England has stepped out from the latest EU financial decisions.
You are too young in this subject. I hope you did not pay too much in education my friend. You wast your money my friend.
What does the UK standing aside on some EU financial decisions have to do with anything? Remember it was Germany who came begging the UK to take part in the process even though Germany rightly agreed supporting the latest tax decision would be a bad decision for the UK's economy.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 07:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Remember overall the UK are the 2nd largest contributor to the EU and if the UK decided to no longer support the EU and leave, the entire Eurozone would collapse.
I think if anything it is you that is lost from your nonsensical post.
Obama hasn't been the best friend to us, i hope he is voted out. I consider the US to be our closest ally. Obama has treated his allies like scum, and tried making friends with the US's worst enemies. For example, referring to the Falkands as the Malvinas. Its unacceptable, many British soldiers died to protect the Falklands. And British and American troops have been fighting side by side after 9/11, we were there for the US in a heartbeat.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is a man who suggested 'talking' to the Taliban. What i would consider to be one of the most dangerously insane regimes in the world today. Personally i would like to see the Taliban nuked, yet Obama wants to talk to them.
Anyhow, it comes as no surprise that he would turn his back on his closest allies. He has a giant sized chip on his shoulder, as his grandad was imprisoned by the British many years ago. But its a shame that he would allow his personal feelings to interfere with his countries interests. I'm sure many Americans feel the same way, hopefully he will be voted out and disappear from the world scene again.
@3 you are not first (#) If you are an american, i hope you understand the irony of lecturing us about slavery......
Feb 09th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0A lot of Americans don't like Obama.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0l will be surprised if doesn't get voted out.
A lot of Americans don't like Obama.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0l will be surprised if doesn't get voted out.
Well he is better than the idiot criminal bush...And I think Obama will get reeelected....
Obama hasn't been the best friend to us, i hope he is voted out. I consider the US to be our closest ally. Obama has treated his allies like scum, and tried making friends with the US's worst enemies. For example, referring to the Falkands as the Malvinas. Its unacceptable, many British soldiers died to protect the Falklands. And British and American troops have been fighting side by side after 9/11, we were there for the US in a heartbeat.
mark: You are an IDIOT
No country really gives a shite about our little dispute.. They may give the nod either way when one of our politicions mentions it but we all know they have other thing to worry about.... oh I forgot Chavez might get a bit mouthy but who cares about him
Feb 09th, 2012 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.antiguaobserver.com/?p=70970
Feb 09th, 2012 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting that the Argies have been lying again
During Argentina's 1982 war of aggression against the Falklands, US team leaders Reagan-Haig knew nothing about what was going on, and understood less. Thank God at the time there was one single big man in the US Government who was 100% in favour of the Falkland Islands, and supported them with all his power as Secretary of Defense: Caspar Weinberger!
Feb 09th, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now the Obama-Clinton team is just as ignorant as the Reagan-Haig team.
And there is no Weinberger in sight.
Philippe
Whilst Reading this today another article came to mind that I’d read earlier this week, I thought Id share it
Feb 09th, 2012 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While the isolated and sparsely-populated outcrop famously became the subject of a bitter war between Britain and Argentina in 1982, the territory first came to international attention in the sixteenth century.
Given their key strategic importance as a base near Cape Horn, the islands attracted competing claims from Britain, France and Spain during the 1700s and have remained a subject of contention ever since.
An Englishman, Captain John Davis of the Desire, is credited with the first recorded sighting of the archipelago as early as 1592.
John Strong, another English captain, made the first recorded landing in 1690, naming the channel between the two main islands Falkland Sound after Viscount Falkland, then treasurer of the Royal Navy.
The Argentinian claim to the islands originates in that of the Spanish crown when it controlled much of South America.
In the 1760s the islands came under the jurisdiction of the Spanish Captain General of Buenos Aires, capital of modern-day Argentina.
A French settlement was established on East Falkland in 1764 by the explorer Louis Antoine de Bougainville but the following year Commodore John Byron landed on West Falkland and laid claim to the islands for Britain.
In 1766 - the year a British settlement was established at Port Egmont on West Falkland - France withdrew in favour of Spain.
Eight years on, Britain - occupied with the looming American War of Independence - itself withdrew, leaving only a plaque declaring sovereignty.
A new settlement was established under the control of Buenos Aires, by then independent from Spain, in 1826.
But five years later, Britain returned. Those who settled made up the islands’ first permanent population.
However, Argentina continued to forge ahead with its claims to the islands it calls the Malvinas.
Passions flared in the 1960s, and in 1965 the UN des
22 Philippe
Feb 09th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But Obarmy is due for retirement soon, we hope.
5 Pirat-Hunter
Feb 09th, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0see all the support we have
Argentina and only Argentina has been telling the world of all the support they have
[, not the brits, try again .]
[mm]
Washington has once again put its weight behind Argentina
[Utter rubbish, they just want to keep their influence]
The USA would never back Argentina in a conflict with the British]
The consequences would be incalculable] it just would not happen.
13 Suguler
when the Junta was throwing students out of planes, shouldn't that have sent alarm bells ringing in the UK government? H
mmm?
[when the type 45 was sent, shouldn't that have sent alarm bells ringing in the argentine government? Hmmm? ]]
Malvinero1
Visa versa .
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2012 the year Argentina falls apart.
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Feb 09th, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Love it.
Wonder if Roy knows “she's” flying around the Americas.
Eat shit and die Argentin-tinys
Feb 09th, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO-BOuIbBV8
Ok. Let's agree, in principle, with US diplomacy and accept it is a bilateral issue...
Feb 09th, 2012 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But Yankee Dooddle's theory leaks.
If it is a bilateral issue, why is it that the former colony came in 1982 to electronically support one of the sides of that issue? NATO agreements?
You may say that I should try a bit of my own remedy, but the US should better keep their traps shut or bring an advisor to tell them what to say, BEFORE, they say it.
Finally, I'm sorry that certain, also improperly or badly advised, members of my country's government, are escalating things that make islanders unnecessarily uneasy. Just as most of us are, the more they're pressed the stronger they'll grow in strength and hatred.
On the other hand, 'bitch' is a strong word which does not properly define her. 'Fool' fits better.
Cheers!
28 Argie
Feb 12th, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who care for America? Another anglo country, full of thieves! We do not need
This is Argentine islands and Argentine oil, being drilled by colonial pirates, protect by pirate ships, sooner all destroyed better.
Clearly, Malvinas is Argentine, claim exist since before Argentina exist. This is well documented that we renounce claim in 1850 but claim was resurrected under Peron who traveled to Italy and adopted policies of Mussolini fascist party in order to make Argentina great nation that it became.
As part of expanded living space, we must continue this policy and we must take over Terra del Fuego and Beagle Channel and then Malvinas.
My grandfather while working for Intelligence visit Indonesia in 1976 to copy plans they used for invasion of Portuguese East Timor and removal of colonial population to be copied in invasion of Malvinas.
If we had copied these plans our invasion would be success and like East Timor is part of Indonesia, Malvinas would now be part of Argentina. World has very short memory.
In order to do good for our country we must do bad things. This is what my grandfather always says.
We know Malvinas never been under Argentine sovereignty but gifted to us by Papal Bull in 1496. No one can argue with Pope or God, that whole of South America given by him to Spain.
Go home colonial pirates w claim you land before our country exist, you can not argue with that. You live there almost 200 years illegally, you have no rights. We will own your homes, farms, businesses, oil and fish.
You will be made to speak Spanish, drive on right, obey our laws, live under our government and governor. In return we give you right to be reborn like our national hero James Peck.
James Peck is son of Malvinas War traitor Terry Peck, he was awarded MBE for helping British occupy our land. Unlike his father, James is brave, patriot, his father will be turning in his grave.
You can all be reborn like James Peck. Or you can die like Terry Peck!
29 Filippo
Feb 13th, 2012 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you exposed is what ruins all possiblities of peace between us Argentines and Islanders of good will.
Moreover, your infantile words are the world's laugh.
To reply properly to the long list of inaccuracies, fallacies, bullying (without the means to defend youself in the event that they are taken seriously), lack of consideration to other human beings that you posted, I'd be forced to use crude expletives whose mentioning in here I'm always voting against.
So I won't really answer you. I do not discuss with spoilt children.
Well said Argie. I honestly think the best way forward would be for Argentina to make a positive effort to open dialogue with the islanders.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain's already tried to discuss the oil but Argentina broke off the discussions. But it wouldn't be a bad idea to discuss that too.
31. Honestly, I don't think there's anything to discuss after my country first accepted to discuss only in tripartite meetings and much less after that stupid war which, in a way, gave islanders something they were longing for decades: full British nationality, solid defence support and a better airport. They cannot however refurbish their port, even if they put every penny of it from their own budget. A seagull told me that it was the MoD that stopped the local plan for building new berthing, more warehouses, some including space to accomodate passengers etc.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just as Britain has their skinheads going for the Pakis, we have people who, as the one above, cannot understand that FKders are people like us who were born, not as us in 3 million sq km of fertile lands but in a piece of rock and peatmoss in the middle of the Roaring Forties and have been there for five or more generations, fought for their lives in a terrible climate and suffered for lack of food variety along most of that time. I don't know to what extent, but I believe they have rights including choosing a nationality. But with regard to the rock+peatmoss, I would'nt dare to advance an opinion.
Finally, I wonder what we want the four arcipelagos for, if we can't manage to keep order in our city streets...
@32 Yeah i was reading earlier about how hard conditions actually are there. I wouldn't want to live there at all! For example, it takes 19,000 acres to sustain 2,500 sheep, the soil is so rubbish. And they have a food shortage on at the moment, due to the pressure on their trade. I don't envy them at all, they have to work hard to survive there.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like you say, they were born there - we're talking children born on an island who have never known another home. Whether or not we took the islands in 1833 or the 1700's, its 2011 now, people need to move on. I don't know of one country that doesn't have blood on their hands from the distant past.
This could have so easily gone the other way. Argentina could have had a healthy trade relationship with the islands, and got on a lot better. It would have saved hundreds of lives and millions and millions of pounds. Humanity never seems to learn from past mistakes, and history repeats itself.
33. Thank you for mentioning that you know no country that doesn't have blood in their hands from the distant past. Actually most countries dwell now on the remains of what some time ago was another country with other people which is, by the way, the Law of Conquest by the Stronger over the Weaker. Besides what happened in Europe in 1945 that ended - at least partially - with the fall of the Berlin wall in 1989, Armenia and Tibet are more recent examples of the things that 'civilised' countries tolerate.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's current root-problem is that as from Peron's advent to power she never had again a long-time policy, both internal and external and no planning for the long run i.r.o. energy, education, health & housing. Every government since, kicks their predecessors' asses, say all that was done was wrong and begin eveything anew, from scratch, to unfathomly costs in all fields.
Foolish as it may appear, no politician - name the party - ever think about this deleterious way of conducting a country.
Corruption was what, to my view, began all this in the 40s and I am now waiting for corruption corrupting itself, in the vain phylosophical thought that corrupted corruption could one day appear as a form of honesty...
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