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The Falklands “a fantastic corner of the world with much trade to be done”

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“Far beyond expectations; this is a fantastic corner of the world”, said Dr. Nicolas Negrin, Head of Mission for the Uruguayan delegation describing his impression of the Falkland Islands. The 19 member Uruguayan business delegation spent a week in the Falklands and left on Saturday with impressions considerably different to those they had arrived with. Read full article

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  • nitrojuan

    of course!!!! in a democratic system... no , as a colonial enclave!

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • STRATEGICUS

    The Uruguayans as with the Chileans need to get out from underneath the dark shadow cast by bully Argentina. The Falkland islanders can introduce them to the Anglo world,especially Australia and New Zealand, which treats small countries with respect.

    There is a strong Chileno community in Australia which has deep roots.

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornishair

    democratic system? like the islander have aready?

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    # Yet another ridiculous comment made in spite. They are a democarcy you dim wit, they have their own elections.

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    “Hi, Here in Uruaguay we have common sense. We trade with people and make ourselves and our people wealthier and happier in all senses. We don't try to steal their land and ethnically cleanse them like the Argentinians”

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Feathers McGraw

    @4 Yes, democracy, like we've had for a long time in the Falklands. Not a whining plastic democracy that's only existed for 5 minutes like Argentina and is still scared of being chucked out for a military dictatorship again.

    It is nice to see the continuing education of South American visitors as to the reality of the FI rather than the whining lies peddled by the Argies. Most that come here from South America go away with a different view of our prosperous and free islands, and the few that don't usually came here with a closed mind anyway so were a lost cause to start with.

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Joke: How many Argentinians does it take to change a light-bulb?
    Answer: Two. One to wring his hands greedily over some islands they never owned and another to put on his ex-SS uniform.

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    You can always tell the indoctrinated from the freedom loving people in a crowd,
    Just look for the little antenna on the head.

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    Mc Graw... you know.. the FI are handled by a few men and influenced by the British with a clown as governor call Mr. Sparroy and a fantasy Assembly in a fantasy country with a fantasy flag ... ..Out of Malvinas are a integrated world if you dont change you keep out of this village... you choose...

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Interesting post nitrojuan, shame its not related to any semblance of reality.

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @10 To be fair, Argentina does own the Malvinas, but in another parallel universe, where Galtieri is still in charge and they all float around in hot-air balloons, the sheep are blue and eat nothing but marzipan.

    That's where we all got it wrong.

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anti-Fascist

    9 nitrojuan

    Sounds like you are describing your own government.

    The Malvinas does not exist, except in your childish imagination. Nothing you fascists can do will change that. The Falklands will exist long after Argentina has been absorbed into a South American super state. Run not by colonials like yourself nitrous but by the indigenous people of South America, who make up the majority of South Americas population but up until now have been treated like surfs.

    In the future, the European colonials who lord it over the Amerindians will become the minority, eventually, like the Europeans of Kenya you will all either home, or with greatly diminished numbers you will adopt a quiet existence.

    Chavez has the right idea, he has redistributed the wealth and the land to the indigenous people. In order to stay in Chavez good books, Argentina needs to act more like Chavez Venezuela. indeed Chavez may one day be the Le Presidente of South America.

    I look forwards to seeing the Amerindians get their land back from you colonials who robbed them of it and slaughtered them for it.

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    it seems Chavez even has a real navy with ships and subs,
    unlike the argies who chose airfix to save money lol.

    Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Feathers McGraw

    @9 admittedly the concept of a free government, good financial resources with no debt, and a flag that doesn't look like it was designed to be printed onto toilet paper probably IS a fantasy to you, but to us it's reality. Welcome to the reality of the free British Falklands, and also welcome to the reality that we don't want to be part of your village as ours is much better :-)

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    @9 admittedly the concept of a free government, good financial resources with no debt, and a flag that doesn't look like it was designed to be printed onto toilet paper probably IS a fantasy to you, but to us it's reality. Welcome to the reality of the free British Falklands, and also welcome to the reality that we don't want to be part of your village as ours is much better :-)
    Why Do you care what Argentina does,plumita???
    We do not care about your island,only about the continental shelf that you are stealing from Argentina,other than that....WE DO NOT CARE about the MAlvinenses!!!
    The Malvinas does not exist, except in your childish imagination. Nothing you fascists can do will change that. The Falklands will exist long after Argentina has been absorbed into a South American super state. Run not by colonials like yourself nitrous but by the indigenous people of South America, who make up the majority of South Americas population but up until now have been treated like surfs
    really fascist?/Too bad that the biggest SA amerindians,are giving the brits a ride...Brazil de 6 largest economy....See how many brits lives in Brazil and Argentina......fascist: YOUA RE AN IDIOT!
    MAlvinas will be absorbed by SA,and uk will be run by muslims....Already in uk the most common name is not JAck any more,but Muhamad...and there is nothing you can do to change it!
    falklnads ,,AHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA What an Imbecile..
    MALVINAS ARGENTINAS!! IDIOTS!

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • anti-fascist2

    15 MORON01

    Here is a film all the nationalist children of Argentina should watch. It should be compulsory education in Argentine schools to learn about their country recent history, instead of teaching lies about the Falkland Islands (the imaginary Malvinas - which Argentina has NEVER had sovereignty over).

    That something like this was allowed to happen is a crime against humanity, 50,000-100,000 raped, tortured, mutilated, murdered and disappeared (Borges). Unborn babies ripped out of their mothers wombs, young children taken from their parents, who were murdered by the heroic Argentine military.

    Anyone of you born in the 70's? I hope your lucky enough to know who your real parents are...

    The Official Story / La historia official

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7LF5II0wIY

    It's a film everyone should watch. Feel shame because the specter of fascism still grips Argentina and as Martino Moreno said “If publishing the truth is forbidden, then lies, ignorance and poverty will follow”.

    Argentina's history is still being written by Moreno's assassins.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    Malvinero1

    You just agreed that its British territory Your words “ We dont care about your island” regardless what you said after you agreed and most people in Argentina you will be surpised to know dont actually care about the island ! So me thinks you are malfunctioning from the CFK Brainwash program :-)

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Here is a film all the nationalist children of Argentina should watch. It should be compulsory education in Argentine schools to learn about their country recent history, instead of teaching lies about the Falkland Islands (the imaginary Malvinas - which Argentina has NEVER had sovereignty over).

    Do not fell bad about the chagossian and the thousand murdered by the brits???Anything from the the Maori in Australia?Do you know the way were treated and killed the AMoris in Australia by the brits??

    You just agreed that its British territory Your words “ We dont care about your island” regardless what you said after you agreed and most people in Argentina you will be surpised to know dont actually care about the island ! So me thinks you are malfunctioning from the CFK Brainwash program :-)
    I never said that.No I think uk is an Imperialist nation,that attacked a peaceful comunity( Argentina)when was trying to make a country.uk...signed the 1825 trewaty of Commerce and Frienship...is that of t a friend to kick out the people in MAlvinas??Argentina was not only patient,but very civilized.Protested,invited uk for arbitration...How good is Argentina..uk is just a miserable country...
    Just watch out they do not blow you up....

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    @16

    They teach us that. At least all private schools do and nowdays their are more than a third in the country.

    Still I don't get you people why you are mad at the Malvinas name. It's their name in Spanish, Portuguese and most of the Latin Languages. It's like people from Londres was mad because we call it Londres or Moscow was pissed off since we don't write it in cyrillic.

    Borges was wrong. The studies made before the dirty war gaves figure at most of 30.000. A lot anyway, and the cruelty you call was there and even worst. See “La noche de los lapices”. It showns what happened and it's still soft many say.
    At the same time, you show your complete lack of knowledge of our history, probably at the level of a local 14 years old kid. The Dirty War happened for a reason. Did you know we had left-wing terrorism? Did you know that back in Isabela's government people feared to go to street because a bomb could explode at any park or you could be kidnapped for a ransom to finantiate the guerrilla? Do you know what Montoneros did? Do you how AAA appered? People let the military to the power because they wanted this to stop. The military was the one who took their duty too far away.

    But you exagerate the babies issue to a laughable point. It's believed 500 babies were kidnapped and gave to families in the military. Hardly what you assume.

    Great movie. Most private highschool have their students too see in one of the two last years.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    18 Malvinero1 (#)

    I live in Argentina and I have a inside perspective of how peaceful this country is “NOT” but I do know that there is a huge population that do not give a crap about the island and they don't want to listen to CFK lies, and I know for a fact that Uruguay don't like you, Chile they are scared of you, Brazil would rather ignore you, and Argentina well they hate all their neighbours and usually racially abuse the Chileans, Venezuela well Señor Chavez is just a power junky who is currently trying to get a percentage of oil from some island in a 200 miles radius of his country which is similar to the distance of the Falklands to the coast of Argentina, so I wonder why he is backing CFK. but again I stress this is a small majority of hate people who seem to enjoy complaining. There is a better part of Argentina who are great people and who just want to leave the islanders in peace.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    NOT” but I do know that there is a huge population that do not give a crap about the island and they don't want to listen to CFK lies, and I know for a fact that Uruguay don't like you, Chile they are scared of you, Brazil would rather ignore you, and Argentina well they hate all their neighbours and usually racially abuse the Chileans, Venezuela well Señor Chavez is just a power junky who is currently trying to get a percentage of oil from some island in a 200 miles radius of his country which is similar to the distance of the Falklands to the coast of Argentina, so I wonder why he is backing CFK. but again I stress this is a small majority of hate people who seem to enjoy complaining. There is a better part of Argentina who are great people and who just want to leave the islanders in peace.
    Well pal,Argentina was in MAlvinas,well before the brits.Malvinas was a dependency from Buenos Aires.Malvinas had 11 governors,some of htem were born in Buenos Aires.Argentina got the independence in 1810,claimed them, as the rest of the Viceroyalty of the River Plate.We send a governor,in 1820,duly commisioned,There was aatriving economy with over 150 people,2000 horses,6000 sheeps,Hide treatment and Fish treatment with salt.uk signed the treaty of commerce and frienship with Argentina.So why the brits bother us?
    NO we do not want any Extracontinental powers around us.We kicked the Spaniards,we kicke dthe brits,1806/07 and 1845...
    Just go home to your island in the North Atlantic.We do not bother you,just we expect the same treatment.
    I do not like CFK,I did not vote for her,and I do not like politicians. I belong to a movement that promote a Direct democracy,we are 20-30% of the Population in Argentina,and growing,but we are worse than CFK in Malvinas.We just do not like an external power( I do not mind the neighbors,I like them and we respect them,and we have a common interest,SA belongs to Brazil,Uruguay,Argentina ,Paraguay and Chile.It is very simple...

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 04:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    Thing is pal ... I dont see the concreate evidence that supports your case ! Britain arrived in the Falklands in 1690 with Captain John Strong RN. Was there an Argentina? There was not. In 1765 Captain John Byron RN officially claimed the Islands. Was there an Argentina? There was not. In 1766 Captain John McBride RN constructed the fort at Port Egmont. Was there an Argentina? There was not. The Spanish expelled the British in 1770 but Britain threatened war. Spain capitulated, agreed to return all property and make reparations. Britain returned in 1771. In 1776 Britain evacuated the settlement but did not relinquish sovereignty. In 1828 Luis Vernet was given permission by the British to establish a commercial venture on the Islands. The United Provinces of the River Plate then appointed Vernet governor in 1829. Britain protested. Vernet then engaged in piracy against United States stealing vessels prompting the visit of the USS Lexington in December 1831. Vernet and several of his colleagues were arrested and removed. Britain returned in 1833 to re-establish sovereignty. Captain John Onslow RN requested removal of the UP flag and garrison. Settlers were encouraged to remain and most did. Particularly after having been paid in silver by Captain Onslow in place of the worthless paper issued by Vernet. The UP pirates sailed away on 5 January 1833. In 1849/50 Argentina and Britain signed and ratified a Convention to settle all outstanding differences. Britain was in control of the Falkland Islands.

    Anyway Yawn............

    and by the way ! I will stay put thanking you very much I do have an Argentine son or would you like to pass a comment on that too !

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 04:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Thing is pal ... I dont see the concreate evidence that supports your case ! Britain arrived in the Falklands in 1690 with Captain John Strong RN. Was there an Argentina? There was not. In 1765 Captain John Byron RN officially claimed the Islands. Was there an Argentina? There was not. In 1766 Captain John McBride RN constructed the fort at Port Egmont. Was there an Argentina? There was not. The Spanish expelled the British in 1770 but Britain threatened war. Spain capitulated,
    uk renounce at NOOTKA!
    This habe been study ad nauseum.
    Why do you think UN supporta Argentina,OAS,Mercosur..because Argentina has no case? Wake up [al,MAlvinas is only 3000NM from Argentina.Spain discovered them in 1520.There are maps in France,by Ribero dated from 1530.uk Did not discovered AMlvinas,uk did not discover even the whole continent,America.
    Your history is flawed.I have been studying this for long time..uk does not have a case!
    When you take a territory by force,even a declared war and you are defeated,a treaty has to follows...uk SIGNED the treaty of Commerce and Frienship with Argentina,in 1825.MAde NO RESERVES ABOUT MALVINAS.
    YOU ARE WRONG!!
    The convention has nothing to do with Malvinas.uk and France tried to dominate the River plate and were fully defeated.Rosas got all his demands.
    An Argentine,son?? What comment?
    Congratulation,but....

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Nootka sound did not include the falklands as the falklands was not adjacent to the spanish settlements on the cost of south america - The Falkland Islands were not 'adjacent', under any definition available in an 18th century Dictionary. This meant that as the falklands were to the south of the last spanish settlement and not on the same piece of land but were an island opposite that land, then they were not adjecant to spanish settlements on the eastern coast and therefore were not covered by the nootka sound.

    Also the nootka sound was mutually recended by spain and britain in 1794 as such it was no longer in force. So you simply can not use the nootka sound argument on the falklands as one it did not cover the falklands but only land adjacent to spanish settlements on the eastern coast at the time, and south of the land in which spanish settlements had been estabished (on the main land only).

    Oh and the UN does not support argentina, they merely say the issue needs to be resolved via dialogue it has not taken sides, but if pushed the UN will have no choice but to act in accordance to self determination under the UN Charter its core founding principle.

    It's your history that is flawed, hell you even claimed General Beresford reomved the british sovereignty plague when infact it was spanish troops in 1780 that removed it and took it to bounos aires, you even said that the plague claimed sovereignty in the name of king George III - therefore you claimed it was claimed not by britain but by George III - Your logic is illogical.

    Actually the commerce and friendship treaty had very much to do with the falklands and anyway was succeeded by the treaty of friendship in the 1850's where argentina agreed all disputes with britain were settled.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Seriously, this needs to go to the ICJ who will objectively read all the history, then find in favour of the British. Then the Argies can go wet themselves, and cry in a corner with Sean 'Useful Idiot' Penn and his collection of neo-soviet chums.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Seriously, this needs to go to the ICJ who will objectively read all the history, then find in favour of the British. Then the Argies can go wet themselves, and cry in a corner with Sean 'Useful Idiot' Penn and his collection of neo-soviet chums.
    Sure....Argentina invited uk 6 times to go to arbitration.
    Nootka had been proven brillianttly by Mr Argerich.uk RENOUNCE to it!
    Hey guys wake up.Argentina is only 300 NM from MAlvinas,it is a natural area of influence....
    uk time in the SA are counted...

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @23 Just as a matter of interest, when are you going to post an intelligible comment? You include other people's comments, but don't distinguish them from your own. The only bits we can be certain are yours are where the “A” and “H” keys get stuck. Otherwise, your comment could be improved by a 14 year old.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    to conclude these ridiculous debates, Democracy is put in place to stop any world domination and to help smaller countries or self-determination islands from getting into the hands of bigger countries, You can get the support of every Hollywood star in the industry but wont make any difference what so ever. and like I said before all those small majority people with hatred for the British and Europeans, You are just given us more reason to have military presents in the south Atlantic and If you wish to try and re-in act the 1982 invasion on the eve of the 30th anniversary then GO try it, I assure you with the modern technology at the disposal of the British military it will take a lot less than 74 days to get your butts out and who knows we might even employ Prince William to search and rescue those swimming back to Argentina.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Hey guys wake up.Argentina is only 300 NM from MAlvinas,it is a natural area of influence....

    Yes that old chestnut

    Isla Martín García is an Argentine island off the Río de la Plata coast of Uruguay. The Argentine exclave island is within the boundaries of Uruguayan waters

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AndyMac

    18 Malvinero1

    You sound like a poorly educated peasant.

    I wonder how well you and your family prosper under KFC? And if your devoted loyalty to her is repaid?

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @26 ICJ isn't arbitration.

    The cult of personality associated with KFC and Nestor is really quite fascinating. The Argsoc Ministry of Truth portals such as La Nacion show direct similarities to the DPRK Central News Agency, and the amount of love shown for their dear leaders is similar in quantity.

    I suspect some of the anger with the Falklanders is that they didn't show any level of mourning when Nestor passed... and there wasn't wailing in the streets and triple rainbows.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @30 Where did you get the concept of “educated”?

    @26 Hey MORON. “Argentina invited uk 6 times to go to arbitration.” Oh really? I remember one suggestion on your part. You thought it acceptable to have the claims arbitrated by Paraguay!!!

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @32 Hmm, why don't they just get Venezuela to arbitrate? or Danny Glover?

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    I'm just sitting here quietly. I have my Popcorn, large Coke and 3-d glasses.
    Soon that oil will be coming out the ground and then the show begins!

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    oh, we think you show will be over , one way or another, long before the black stuff arrives.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juan23

    kelperssss...your faces are terrible..so sad.. poor people...keep those horrible islands.. :)

    Juan Pablo - Buenos Aires

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Juan23
    Argies ...your faces are terrible..so sad.. poor people...keep those horrible islands..

    Why why why,

    .

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Falklands are British

    Nice one. So Uruguay tell CFK that they support her stance on the Falklands but then goes to the Falklands to drum up trade. That doesn't sound like support to me. Then Argentina come out and say they wish the islenders well and don't want to interfere with their commerce.

    Yeah right. ..and I have a part time job as a male stripper!

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @38 I guess the Uraguayans sat down at some stage and all agreed that if they just tell bare-faced lies to the mad harridan then they can at least stop her from trying to invade their country. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, if you will.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend
    it worked in the past,
    and will work now.

    Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    But let us not forget the other saying:

    The friend of my enemy is my enemy also. Venezuela for one.

    Feb 15th, 2012 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    agreed

    Feb 15th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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