Dozens were arrested and injured in downtown Buenos Aires when groups of former Argentine soldiers that fought during the Malvinas war clashed violently with the police demanding to be recognized as full veterans. Read full article
So they remained in Argentina and want the same rights as the poor souls that were sent on a fools errand to the FI to be used as target practice. Is honour and chivalry dead in Argentina or did it not ever exist?
It's not like you're going to get shell-shock or post-traumatic stress from sitting in Tierra Del Fuego chain-smoking. Because, let's be fair, that's probably what they were doing.
However, maybe you might get post-traumatic stress from seeing the yeti-like creepy botox-lady of patagonia.
Why? HSBC is a Shanghai based company, surely them PLO clad idiots damaging Chinese companies will bring their country unstuck with their new Chinese buddies.
Both events are Win, Win, as far as I can see, the place will internally self destruct.
this says it all really doesn't it!! they sent such young lads, boys i should say to the Falkland Islands to fight their dirty war and the lucky ones who didn't even leave Argentinian soil have the nerve to behave like this?? oh dear CFK, you don't like violence but see how your people behave when disgruntled when they have no reason to, bloody disgraceful!
Similar groups of former soldiers beat up an Argentine lawmaker as he was leaving Government House...
Probably because the Argentine lawmaker was corruptly paying himself far too much money, whilst the ex-servicemen are living below the poverty line. Wow, they know how to look after people in Argentina. What such a respectable and equal-society led nation they are! NOT!
@13 was this lawmaker the one who had the spectacular idea of guying the arguably unnecessary deaths of their friends on the Belgrano, by naming a football conference after said military disaster?
If it was, one can perfectly understand the motivation behind the beating.
Last time I checked, it was not in Argentina that war veterans died in crumbling hospitals due to lack of resources and basic equipment. If I recall correctly, that was in the USA.
I keep hearing your countries are so rich... so what's the excuse???
Help for Heroes: The bright idea that hit the spot
The charity has raised £53m so far. It has held a handful of large, headline-grabbing events: one, a rugby match featuring stars such as Lawrence Dallaglio, raised £1.44m; another, a charity ball that offered guests the chance to fly with the Red Arrows, raised £1.6m. But the vast majority of Help for Heroes' funds have come from thousands of smaller, community-based events
Why dont you argies put your hands in your pocket,forgot you dont do charity
Since 2004, Disability Rights International has worked in Argentina to document the conditions and treatment of people detained in the country’s psychiatric institutions, train locally-based advocates to investigate abuses and in the international human rights standards that apply to people with intellectual and psychosocial disabilities.
In 2007, Disability Rights International published Ruined Lives: Segregation from Society in Argentina’s Psychiatric Asylums, a report documenting egregious human rights abuses, with our local partner
@14 - I'm rather interested that they have to try and call their football leagues something pathetic, rather than try to get an international company to support it like in most other countries. Though after this, which company in their right mind would want to support it?
@15 - What excuse? No excuse is needed. Don't believe everything you read in the Guardian! Just as @17 says, Help the Heroes do some fantastic work, along with many other charities in the UK. Last time I checked the World Health Organisation rated healthcare in Argentina to be far worse than the UK.
I was traumatised as a teenager watching Argentine conscripts being bombed and shot on national TV. Am I a veteran and can I claim a pension from the Argentine government?
Brave argie veterans who never left argieland. I can just imagine it:
I had to leave my mummy's house, wear army clothing, eat four meals a day, smoke 200 free cigarettes a day and drink myself stupid. I am a veteran. Oh, I forgot. The sergeant made us get up at 8am every day, go to bed at 11pm and sometimes he shouted. I couldn't go any further forward as I get travel sick.
Oh so now the British media is not to be believed...
You people need to get your stories consistent. First you tell us argies the British media is much more trustworthy than our own, now that we shoudn't trust it. Who understands you all.
BTW, I just posted that link because it was the first on the list. I really don't care or know anything about British media and who is who, I would assume since all I hear here is theUK does not lie, does not do anything wrong, that anything from there is 100% trustworthy.
Again, you guys did not answer how come the UK is so rich yet veterans depend on the alms of the average citizen for survival. Not even getting into how US war dead were discarded, as if they were animal offal.
@23 Well if you're talking about independence of the press, we'll in the UK we basically have different levels of newspaper:
a) There are the 'Cult of Celebrity' focused tabloids, which are typically owned by Murdoch, and are basically the 'Mouth of Sauron/Newscorp', telling plebs that unless they have full service Sky TV and watch pleb-football all day that their life isn't worth living. Then there is the Daily Mail which is for basement dwelling people who think they're rich and right wing, but they're not, and blames everything on immigrants. The Express only has stories about 'the people's princess' Lady Dianna.
b) The Times (right wing) is more Murdoch nonsense, for middle managers who think having Sky TV is a blessing of middle management, and typically like pleb-football rather than good sports.
c) the grauniad, which is left wing and essentially full of trolls in it's comment is free section.
d) the independent, which has it's disaster du jour, explaining why your whole life should be one long panic attack.
e) the FT
f) The BBC, who successfully troll every political party, and so spend their entire time having their funding threatened.
In Argentina you have:
a) the Kerchner nationalised press, which is run by Joseph Goebbels, raised from the dead through necromancy.
So, no.. they're not entirely the same. We have a spread of different ideas, you have one Argsoc authorised idea.
@17 Help for Heroes. Because all members of the British armed forces are heroes. Have always been more than glad to contribute to HfH. Always wear the wristband. Stickers in the car. Must do more for our heroes. So unlike Latin American scumbags.
The UK public have always been very generous at supporting independent charities. This means they are not dependent on the whims of government spending and have to devote half the year pitching for funding. I like that we give freely and generously to organisations like HfH, Children in Need, Comic Relief, MacMillan etc. It also means people can exercise the right to choose where their money goes.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo they remained in Argentina and want the same rights as the poor souls that were sent on a fools errand to the FI to be used as target practice. Is honour and chivalry dead in Argentina or did it not ever exist?
Feb 14th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Follow her rules or you'll see what happens.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There you go Ms Fernandez... you have your country's fellowmen rioting for their rights! Sheer demagoguery!
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they did not experience what being at the battle field is like,”
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be fair they were not on them long themselves
It's not like you're going to get shell-shock or post-traumatic stress from sitting in Tierra Del Fuego chain-smoking. Because, let's be fair, that's probably what they were doing.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, maybe you might get post-traumatic stress from seeing the yeti-like creepy botox-lady of patagonia.
The Falkland Island are British and beautiful. They will remain so in spite of recurring bouts of hysteria from Argentina.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina would be wise to lift their embargos, blockades etc. on the Islands and try to cultivate genuine links with the people living there.
Why should the British or the Falkland Islanders trust Argentina after the way they have behaved towards them?
Men wearing military uniform fighting police - the start of a new military coup d'etat?
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 at least the police aren't dressed up in PLO uniforms smashing the hell out of HSBC like they were last week. You have to be thankful for that.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why? HSBC is a Shanghai based company, surely them PLO clad idiots damaging Chinese companies will bring their country unstuck with their new Chinese buddies.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both events are Win, Win, as far as I can see, the place will internally self destruct.
seems like her country is falling apart,
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0are you watching argentine bloggers,
@9 Just so you know HSBC is a British bank based in London at the Wharf of Canaries.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0this says it all really doesn't it!! they sent such young lads, boys i should say to the Falkland Islands to fight their dirty war and the lucky ones who didn't even leave Argentinian soil have the nerve to behave like this?? oh dear CFK, you don't like violence but see how your people behave when disgruntled when they have no reason to, bloody disgraceful!
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Similar groups of former soldiers beat up an Argentine lawmaker as he was leaving Government House...
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Probably because the Argentine lawmaker was corruptly paying himself far too much money, whilst the ex-servicemen are living below the poverty line. Wow, they know how to look after people in Argentina. What such a respectable and equal-society led nation they are! NOT!
@13 was this lawmaker the one who had the spectacular idea of guying the arguably unnecessary deaths of their friends on the Belgrano, by naming a football conference after said military disaster?
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0If it was, one can perfectly understand the motivation behind the beating.
Last time I checked, it was not in Argentina that war veterans died in crumbling hospitals due to lack of resources and basic equipment. If I recall correctly, that was in the USA.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/mar/11/military.health
I keep hearing your countries are so rich... so what's the excuse???
@malv01 Looks like the argentine vets took one hell of a beating, Again!
Feb 15th, 2012 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I keep hearing your countries are so rich... so what's the excuse???
Feb 15th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Help for Heroes: The bright idea that hit the spot
The charity has raised £53m so far. It has held a handful of large, headline-grabbing events: one, a rugby match featuring stars such as Lawrence Dallaglio, raised £1.44m; another, a charity ball that offered guests the chance to fly with the Red Arrows, raised £1.6m. But the vast majority of Help for Heroes' funds have come from thousands of smaller, community-based events
http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/news/1009605/?DCMP=ILC-SEARCH
Why dont you argies put your hands in your pocket,forgot you dont do charity
Since 2004, Disability Rights International has worked in Argentina to document the conditions and treatment of people detained in the country’s psychiatric institutions, train locally-based advocates to investigate abuses and in the international human rights standards that apply to people with intellectual and psychosocial disabilities.
In 2007, Disability Rights International published Ruined Lives: Segregation from Society in Argentina’s Psychiatric Asylums, a report documenting egregious human rights abuses, with our local partner
@14 - I'm rather interested that they have to try and call their football leagues something pathetic, rather than try to get an international company to support it like in most other countries. Though after this, which company in their right mind would want to support it?
Feb 15th, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 - What excuse? No excuse is needed. Don't believe everything you read in the Guardian! Just as @17 says, Help the Heroes do some fantastic work, along with many other charities in the UK. Last time I checked the World Health Organisation rated healthcare in Argentina to be far worse than the UK.
I was traumatised as a teenager watching Argentine conscripts being bombed and shot on national TV. Am I a veteran and can I claim a pension from the Argentine government?
Feb 15th, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19 :-)
Feb 15th, 2012 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so when can I get the check?
If I was Argentinian, I'd be traumatised.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brave argie veterans who never left argieland. I can just imagine it:
Feb 15th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had to leave my mummy's house, wear army clothing, eat four meals a day, smoke 200 free cigarettes a day and drink myself stupid. I am a veteran. Oh, I forgot. The sergeant made us get up at 8am every day, go to bed at 11pm and sometimes he shouted. I couldn't go any further forward as I get travel sick.
Oh so now the British media is not to be believed...
Feb 15th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You people need to get your stories consistent. First you tell us argies the British media is much more trustworthy than our own, now that we shoudn't trust it. Who understands you all.
BTW, I just posted that link because it was the first on the list. I really don't care or know anything about British media and who is who, I would assume since all I hear here is theUK does not lie, does not do anything wrong, that anything from there is 100% trustworthy.
Again, you guys did not answer how come the UK is so rich yet veterans depend on the alms of the average citizen for survival. Not even getting into how US war dead were discarded, as if they were animal offal.
I'm sorry but it's pathetic.
@23 Well if you're talking about independence of the press, we'll in the UK we basically have different levels of newspaper:
Feb 15th, 2012 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a) There are the 'Cult of Celebrity' focused tabloids, which are typically owned by Murdoch, and are basically the 'Mouth of Sauron/Newscorp', telling plebs that unless they have full service Sky TV and watch pleb-football all day that their life isn't worth living. Then there is the Daily Mail which is for basement dwelling people who think they're rich and right wing, but they're not, and blames everything on immigrants. The Express only has stories about 'the people's princess' Lady Dianna.
b) The Times (right wing) is more Murdoch nonsense, for middle managers who think having Sky TV is a blessing of middle management, and typically like pleb-football rather than good sports.
c) the grauniad, which is left wing and essentially full of trolls in it's comment is free section.
d) the independent, which has it's disaster du jour, explaining why your whole life should be one long panic attack.
e) the FT
f) The BBC, who successfully troll every political party, and so spend their entire time having their funding threatened.
In Argentina you have:
a) the Kerchner nationalised press, which is run by Joseph Goebbels, raised from the dead through necromancy.
So, no.. they're not entirely the same. We have a spread of different ideas, you have one Argsoc authorised idea.
@17 Help for Heroes. Because all members of the British armed forces are heroes. Have always been more than glad to contribute to HfH. Always wear the wristband. Stickers in the car. Must do more for our heroes. So unlike Latin American scumbags.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK public have always been very generous at supporting independent charities. This means they are not dependent on the whims of government spending and have to devote half the year pitching for funding. I like that we give freely and generously to organisations like HfH, Children in Need, Comic Relief, MacMillan etc. It also means people can exercise the right to choose where their money goes.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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