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European MP calls for end to Argentine aid until it stops threatening Falklands

Thursday, March 1st 2012 - 04:09 UTC
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A several million pounds EU aid program to help Argentina should be halted until the country stops “threatening” Britain over the Falkland Islands, said member of the European parliament Nerj Deva. Read full article

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  • Marcos Alejandro

    A remember a few weeks ago India's finance minister told the Brits 'We do not require the aid. It is a peanut in our total development spending.'
    Keep your peanuts.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 1 so? Your mom loves thongs, so what do we do?

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 04:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    British aid analysis:
    To Argentina=we refuse your ships
    To India=we don't need it and we won't buy your Typhoons
    To China= their economy is much larger than UK and booming.
    To Ireland(bail out)=country that separated from UK, removed the monarch and refused to join the Commonwealth.

    Chancellor George Osborne says “The British Government has run out of money because all the money was spent”

    I can't think why, keep the good job Brits! one of this days you will beg Argentina on your knees to take Malvinas back :-)

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Marcos, You are a pratt! We dont send it unless it is asked for. When india said “no” then ok no problem you deal with the filthy streets (you been to india/ its a shit hole).

    You dont want the EU aid, then fine no problem! Im sure all tax payers in Europe will be very happy to have their money back.....can you send us achegue please. Friggin monkey!

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    All nations that receives “aid” should stop receiving them.

    Those so called “EU aid” aren't charity, they are in reality loans, created from nothing and lend against high interest rates. People must understand, the world bank is an arm of the US federal Reserve, bank of England and the ECB (what is more Germany). Those aid are loans, and making loans they make money, no matter what. If you stop those loans, you can break those organizations who are your true enemy.

    India made sense when they said..screw your aid. Argentina can and should do the same thing, since they also can create their own credits.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Argentina can and should do the same thing, since they also can create their own credits.

    I agree 100%!

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    what loans or aid have Argentina ever offered third world countries???? If you dont want our handouts dont take them! go somewhere else for a loan ..maybe IMF...oh no you defaulted that.. the US oh you owe them billions...your running out of people to give you aid or charity sad really.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    I wonder if F.CK has asked the poorest people if they would like British aid stopped.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    At least it gives the EU the chance to consider who it trades with. If this aid was going to poor children's education while KFC buys new shoes and gets involved in property deals.. then I think this is pretty low.

    If these loans are going on education, are we paying to educate them about Gaucho Rivero and their 'Malvinas War' nonsense?

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    ”Baroness Ashton said EU aid schemes for Argentina were part of financial programs supporting education and ”people at the poorest end of the spectrum“

    Well am all for supporting people at the poorest end of the spectrum, so long as we can catagory say yes the money is getting to them and not being swindle by corrupt governments - But paying for education in argentina? Great so now where paying them to indoctrinate the very poor people that the aid was meant for!

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @10 haha, yeh, we're paying 'aid' to indocrinate Argentinian kids about 'Las Malvinas' nonsense. It doesn't get any more ironic and self-defeating.

    Baroness Ashton: “EU aid schemes for Argentina were part of financial programs supporting 'las malvinas indocrination' for people at the poorest end of the spectrum“
    Mr. V. Average: ”Hmm... I love the smell of irony in the morning”

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kbec

    Giving aid to starving Argentines is not going to stop the RG government teaching the very same kids the malvinas march when they start primary school. If argies want to watch their children starve that is a matter for them, not for the EU. I know it's hard but we have to toughen up and accept thats the way of the 3rd world.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @12 I'm all for Aid for Education. But you wouldn't give Aid money to Somalian schools just so they can teach the March of Al Queda, and you shouldn't really be doing it in this case either. The least they should give you in exchange for free money is a modicum of respect.

    Is that too much?

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    the Future of UK, CIPAYOS, KAKAKAKAKAKA, UNFORGETTABLE!

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @3 No British-sourced “aid” to argieland. No British (or British-related) cruise vessels to argieland. No British imports of argie goods. Should get rid of at least £10 billion of argie income. Bye bye argies. Starve, why don't you?

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @1 & 3 Marcos Alejandro
    Marcos Alejandro keeps posting fictional rubbish to try to drown out reality

    @5 Fido Dido
    “India made sense when they said..screw your aid. Argentina can and should do the same thing, since they also can create their own credits.”

    UK aid to India is for those people that are neglected by their own Government, what small a mind you have.
    And India is saying to buy the Typhoon they want the technology as well, bad luck on that, we'll sell it to their enermy and see all the inferior French fighters they bought instead getting shot down, snigger snigger.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Brits not only occupied India, they shipped its people like cattle all over the world for cheap labour. I wonder why Indians aren't more grateful for all the wonderful things that Britain did for them...
    Maybe UK can make re-payments for the wealth they took from India.
    Well this doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out, an economy growing by 8% receiving aid from an economy in decline? :-))

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @17 Today, in the middle-east, they're shipping indians all over the middle east like cattle for cheap labour. Today, I wonder why Indians aren't more grateful for all the wonderful things that the Middle East Countries did for them.

    TODAY!!

    Maybe you're just in the wrong room, and should be in Middle East chat barracking them about their addiction to indian neo-slavery, rather than just talking in historical terms about things the british may or may not have done.

    The only thing that grew by 8% in the last year was Fat Nestor Jr's waistline, and not the real argentinian economy.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fermin

    Every day it is harder and harder to claim that Argentina threatens the people living in Malvinas. Everyday it is HARDER AND HARDER to be dishonest for the media about Malvinas and about Argentina's attitude, diplomacy and peaceful intentions.

    Cheers for those who defend HUMAN RIGHTS, PEACE, DEMOCRACY, TRANSPARENCY at the media.

    Cheers for this Government we have today in Argentina that has found the way to take our claim to the world with a peaceful attitude!

    Cristina offering THREE in stead of TWO flights a month to Malvinas is a real demonstration that all this HEADLINES that include the word THREATEN are giving readers nothing serious.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    16, excuse me, u are rubbish.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 19 “Cristina offering THREE in stead of TWO flights a month to Malvinas is a real demonstration that all this HEADLINES that include the word THREATEN are giving readers nothing serious.” Ah, the good old Cristina, she's an angel, she's sooooo lovely! :) Fermin, you really believe that Falklanders are stupid, don't you?

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @21 Urm, I hope the FIG consider a resounding No... that's unless they open up their skies again to all traffic to the Falklands.

    ... unless they're planning the Condors terrorism thing again?

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BenC30

    Totally agree with him. Argentina don't need the money.
    It doesn't go to helping people... CFK will spend it on another round of facelifts. haha!

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @19 - I didnt see the punchline to the joke?

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BenC30

    @19. WOW. Are you CFK herself or have you just been brainwashed by her and the Reich?

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fermin

    @25 BenC30: This is a very interesting word you wrote: “the reich”. I see you are not very well informed...

    Today, at the Argentinian National Congress there was a special guest during CFK speech. His name is Baltasar Garzón, the spanish judge that was sent to trial this same february 2012 in Madrid by the Popular Party, by those conservative spanish right-wingers that hate the fact that this man dedicated his work to investigate crimes during Franco's dictatorship. Because he did so much for Human Rights...

    Tell me, how comes that you can relate a Government like this one with fascism?? I would like you to say something with strong fundaments..

    How can you relate fascism with a Government that has supported same-sex marriages and made it real in Argentina? Tell me... I will be waiting for a serious answer.

    On the other hand, I DO see fascism at some “developed” societies that nowadays, The European Union, for example, is showing how unfair the union between european countries was done.

    Greek, spanish, italian congress voting what Merkozi impose...

    I get the impression that sooner or later they are gonna start speaking german at their Parliaments.

    And if you don't like fascism, I like it less than you, that's why I don't accept a country invading another one, that's why I do not accept the antidemocratic Security Council at the UN, that's why I do not accept BBC or FOX News lies...

    Argentina has never had such a freedom of speech like it does nowadays, and it was not easy to get to this point, that's why you read me celebrating CFKs right choices. Argentina has never had this economic sustainability.

    You wanna go on believing everything they say... go on... get $tupid.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    read this on another post made me chuckle....

    Arguing with an RG is like playing chess with a pigeon.

    You could be the greatest player in the world, but the pigeon will still knock over all the pieces, shit on the board and strut around triumphantly.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @17 Marcos Alejandro

    YOU are so ignorant it beggars belief, there were only ever a few thousand British in India and it said that if each Indian picked up a few grains of sand they could easily bury the British. The British made alliances with Indian Moguls which stopped them fighting each other, (yes some say a glorified protection racket) but they got a lot out the arrangement e.g. a railway network they haven’t altered since, a very good education system that delivers a vast number of graduates, a very effective military, that recognises the importance of the British influence, etc. etc. But unfortunately they have a class system that leaves people at the bottom, which their government doesn’t care much about. It is these people that the British give aid to.
    Also like in Argentina the nationalist took control and held India back for decades, only recently changed because of pro-British entrepreneurs in Mumbai
    No you certainly aren’t a rocket scientist and you don’t know much about economics either, China, India rely heavily on the west buying their produce and Brazil selling it’s natural resources to them, all of which would stall, but for western demand.
    As for shipping Indians being shipped around the globe, they wanted go to escape abject poverty.

    @20 Kipling 16, “excuse me, u are rubbish” Spare me the childish name calling’ but I suppose you’re too dim to understand that.

    @27 cLOHO
    “Arguing with an RG is like playing chess with a pigeon.
    You could be the greatest player in the world, but the pigeon will still knock over all the pieces, shit on the board and strut around triumphantly.”

    That is brilliant, doesn’t it sum it up so well.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    hey greek youghurt don t you know how read that Argentina doesn t need anything from Uk, we want to stop all comercial trade with Uk, are you stupid or what?,

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @29 pepegalleta

    Of course you don't want anything from the UK, until you do and find you can't export your way out of Agentina's problems

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    again we don t need anything and we will not too.
    and if you thinh UE is going to stop baying food from argentina you are in marts.
    Every body in this workd is behind food and weapons, we Argentina the olny peoduct that we have to offert to the world is food.
    If you watch the progress in prices of comodities then you will start talking serious.
    we importot from Uk mostly medical suplies, USA will be more than happy to replace Uk as a suplier

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @31 pepegalleta
    “ we Argentina the only product that we have to offer to the world is food.

    Yes that’s right and with your recent devastating drought you haven’t even got that.

    “USA will be more than happy to replace UK as a supplier”

    Ya right, Argentina owes the USA over 40 billion dollars and they want it back

    Isolationism doesn’t work

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fermin

    @32 Redcoat: “Isolationism doesn't work”

    At least political isolationism works for Cameron, integrating to the democratic international organizations or forums to discuss the Malvinas conflict wouldn't work for him and the few lazy bankers monarchists and colonialists that support him... After all the last thing they wanted to happen is to have Malvinas conflict in the mouth of different world leaders... who can sustain this “self-determination” excuse?? It is not serious , they know it, they want the conflict to go back to shadows so that they can go on GRABBING SouthAmerican resources...

    And appart from this... Argentinian Government never suggested isolationism, they suggested to replace british imports for another ones...

    That is not isolation, and apart from this trading with the UK has never been a win-win deal for undeveloped countries... It has usually been selling non-manufactured products to the UK and buying expensive manufactured products or services to the UK.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @33 fermin

    As always, you pervert any meaning to suit your obsessional argument.
    Read the posts properly, isolationism here, is some are saying, Argentina can just export itself out of its problems, but if it doesn’t buy or hasn’t got trade agreements, you only get rock bottom prices for your goods and that has been proved time and time again.
    Hence isolationism doesn’t work.
    But no doubt I’m wasting my time writing this to you, as Britian is anything but isolationist

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fermin

    @34 Redcoat: thanks for calling me pervert.

    Maybe I am stupid, but I still don't know what isolationist has to do with Argentina.

    Isolationist could be for example the UK position at the European Union...

    what would have happened if the UK hadn't stayed isolated from the Euro currency?¿? I suppose that isolationist was right, but Argentinian isolationist is wrong...

    I remember seeing a documentary about the building of the eurotunel to connect London to Paris and there were english protesting, claiming KEEP BRITAIN AN ISLAND :D

    isolationist is a very vague word to talk so specifically... it is not good or bad in itself... it depends on the context.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @35 fermin
    I wrote, read the posts to get the context, economic isolationism, not monetary or politically and you can’t help yourself can you, you have perverted my meaning of, you pervert any meaning, to: calling you a pervert, only an Argentinian
    You are waste of time.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    35 fermin

    Cheers for those who defend HUMAN RIGHTS, PEACE, DEMOCRACY, TRANSPARENCY at the media.

    ...y los derechos humanos de los falklanders? No son argentinos y no quieren ser argentinos. Sois, como todos los argentinos, un hipocrata y un facha.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @37 DJ56

    What a sense of humour you have, it's almost funny.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    DJ56
    What human Rights Argentina violeted in Malvinas?, we are asking via diplomatic just to sit down and discuss about who owns the islands, thing that Uk refused several times, Islanders ate not victims here, we the Argentinians are the victims, don t be confused, plus can you tell me where are you from?,
    England will has to face a lit of issues in the next 5 years, remember Scotland, Malvinas, Ireland, plys more colonias.
    Germany is going to eat all British economy, China is taken the place of british corporations in midle east, south America will stop trading very soon.
    Is the end of UK and USA will help to shrink Uk economy too.

    will see what happen

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @39 pepegalleta
    You constantly live in a state wishful thinking

    “Argentinians are the victims” -
    Why because your nursery school told you so?

    “who owns the islands, thing that Uk refused several times”-
    There’s nothing to discuss, they are British

    “England will has to face a lit of issues in the next 5 years” -
    Who ever wants to leave can leave, but no more aid.

    “Germany is going to eat all British economy, China is taken the place of british corporations in midle east, south America will stop trading very soon.”
    Germany has the giant Euro millstone round its neck, it will be lucky to survive. China only sells to the Middle East those things we don’t make. Who cares about SA they need our markets.

    The USA needs the UK more than it needs Argentina

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Redcoat
    will see what US are gonna do if Argentina make an agreement with China or Rusia to share south atlantic natural resources, there ate a lot of option today.
    will see, you think you are protected under Uk protection, I can only laugh about it.
    take care

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @41 pepegalleta
    “US gonna do if Argentina make an agreement with China or Rusia to share south atlantic natural resources”

    As long as it's only on the Argentinian Mainland or your terrorial waters off the your mainland, (you can sell yourself down the drain if you want to), but if you mean anywhere near the Falklands, South Georgia/Orkney/Shetlands, the USA, China and Russia recognise them as British and would laugh at you. Trumped up little Argentina they will say. Ha Ha Ha.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Redcoat you are wrong, China and Rusia are supporting Argentina, be informed, USA is not any more like at Reagan time, now USA recognizes a billateral negotiation between the parts.
    Usa name the islands MALVINAS no Falklands, plus recognized DE Facto the British administration, do you know what DE FACTO means?
    read about it.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @43 pepegalleta

    You are so naive, Clinton backtracked after using Malvinas, don't raise your hopes, USA only talks of bilateral talks because they know it won't ever get to that.
    Where is your PROOF that China and Russia supports Argentina?

    And haven’t got anything else to do, but go on and on about the same thing?

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Read about China and Malvinas

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @45 pepegalleta

    As I knew you have no PROOF, it's all just hot air

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Redcoat

    http://www.infobae.com/notas/623735-China-reitero-su-apoyo-al-reclamo-argentino-por-las-Malvinas.html

    http://www.infobae.com/notas/623735-China-reitero-su-apoyo-al-reclamo-argentino-por-las-Malvinas.html

    http://www.infobae.com/notas/623735-China-reitero-su-apoyo-al-reclamo-argentino-por-las-Malvinas.html

    Read if you have any chance

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @47 pepegalleta

    The first link is in Spanish, so no worth translating.

    The second is a Chinese blog site, probably written by the type of idiot you can get on this site.

    The third is a Spanish language site that is famous for misinterpreting what people say, e.g. Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) was reported as saying the Malvinas are Argentinian, now back in the UK, he his categorically denying he said that at all

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Tedcoat I will mail more later, where in Uk are you?, if you come to California let me know, do you have kids?, I have a 11 y old girl, life here is very lonely.
    I have a brother in Barcelona and a sister in Madrid.
    Salute and shalom

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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