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Waters denies having said what he said and blasts Malvinas war
A few days after the Chilean and Argentine media ran the story that Roger Waters had said that the Malvinas Islands belonged to Argentina, the former Pink Floyd lead singer published a note on his Facebook page where he explained that a local journalist “misunderstood” him since he never made such statement. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNow lets see how many of the RG's who put soooooooo much weight on this guy supporting their pathetic cause, have to say now!!
Mar 06th, 2012 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Silly bugger should have kept his mouth shut until after he had finished with BA....
Mar 06th, 2012 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fleece the plebs and then do a runner... works for their politicians....
An Argentine fabricating a story? NO IT COULDN'T HAPPEN!
Mar 06th, 2012 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol at all of the Argentinians on here claiming his support.....
I am actually, genuinely laughing out loud right now.......
Mar 06th, 2012 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle....
Mar 06th, 2012 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol, its just not argentinas day is it, first they now face mirror import restrictions from their neighbours, that will feel like an economic bloackade (no doubt they will cry victim over that too, despite them starting the import restriction in the first place) and now the man who was their beloved god last week, has told the world that he never said he supported their claim and that it was a misunderstanding. Though we all know it was more likely an argentine that understood him perfectly that decided to fabricate the story. Now i wonder what morrissey has to say about, what they reported him as saying lol.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're surprised? I wasn't.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now let's see how many of those brits who had a go at Waters for allegedly saying the Malvinas were Argentine, back flip and come out saying something different.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I for one will not criticize Waters irrespective of his position on Malvinas. I simply like his music too much.
He has to come back to the UK sometime. Hence the back peddling.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0I doubt there'll be much backtracking. Waters is a champagne socialist.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Agent: “Mr Waters, do you know you've just isolated yourself from you entire british fanbase?”
Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Waters (I don't know who he is): “Backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal ... backpedal”
Poor sucker probably booked the concert hall using dollars and got paid in non-transferable pesos.
Can't wait now to see if Morrisey was 'mis-quoted' too.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I am convinced it’s time to sue for peace and seek a compromise, not push for victory”. I fully agree
Mar 06th, 2012 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kohen I agree with you. Does this mean sovereignty is off the agenda now?
Mar 06th, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9Ragemar,
Mar 06th, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0My thoughts exactly.
Thought he'd cop it in the neck when he returned.
@11GreekYoghurt,
Quite funny, GY.
A compromise means that an agreement settling the dispute is reached in which the interests of all parties are taking into consideration, even though if no one gets 100%. I think it is possible, realist, good for everybody and particularly for our children and grandchildren.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lies will always return to haunt the liar, Argentina must be the most 'haunted' nation on the planet! I hope that Penn and the likes take note.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0people should return the tickettttttttttt
Mar 06th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Silly Mr Waters. Read his words carefully. He is actually saying that a third-rate country with delusions of grandeur and an imperialist colonialist bent has some grounds for their hysterical rants.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's take a look: ““the doleful inheritance of the, now largely discredited, imperial policies of 16th century European monarchs.” So European monarchs, acting in line with the needs of their times, have provided a doleful inheritance. Is he including Philip IV, Charles II, Philip V, Louis I, Ferdinand VI, Charles III, Charles IV, Ferdinand VII, Joseph I, Ferdinand VII, Isabella II and Amadeo I in that? Or does he just mean English and British monarchs?
”The tragedy of 1982, when 900 young lives were lost was that it was caused by the folly of two political leaders, Galtieri and Thatcher, who were both losing their grip on the reins of power and used the conflict as a distraction,” Naturally, Mrs Thatcher, as the archetypal British monster, would have started a war no matter what. Or might it be that a British Prime Minister committed, as all of them should be, to the defence of the realm, including overseas territories, had no alternative but to act to throw stinking, cowardly, argie thieves from our territory and defend the lives and rights of the civilian population? Sorry? Who invaded whom?
“Now thirty years later the sound of sabres rattling is rising again. I am not a politician or a diplomat, and have no ready solution, but I am convinced it’s time to sue for peace and seek a compromise, not push for victory. At the end of the day what really matters is that not one more drop of blood is shed on the altar of the imperial aspirations of long dead kings,” And who, pray, has rattled her sabre? Just a thought for you, MISTER Waters. If a guy accosts you in the street and steals your wallet and is then caught, is it “time to sue for peace and seek a compromise”? Like giving him half your money, with the option to steal the rest later? Lamebrain!
Video evidence of the interview....
Mar 06th, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Roger Water and David Gilmour (Pink Floyd), in my opinion the best music ever made it.....
Pitty this incoherence......
http://www.infobae.com/notas/635464-Waters-asustado-dio-marcha-atras-y-cambio-su-postura-sobre-las-Malvinas.html
@13 Marcelo, of course you agree, because you offer nothing and expect something. We did seek a compromise, but then you started a popular war, and lost. Now the British have no issue on sovereignty, because the territory is ours as per the principle of uti posseditis. The Argentinians have an issue, but have nothing to negotiate with, and no one cares about them.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You'd agree with anything when you have something to gain and nothing to lose. Sadly a solution was found in 1982, no one in the UK cares about your sovereignty issue.
hehehe, just another brit...
Mar 06th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0-Hey Roger, your fans in the UK will not go to your next concerts !!!
-Ok I will change my speech, so I will create some confusion... The Queen called me so I will tell the people that I did not say what I 've said.
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... he said: I think it should be Argentine...
end of story
I heard an extract of the conference that he gave in santiago de chile, and he didn't say in any moment that the malvinas belongs to argentina, his words were twisted by the press, that's tipical everywhere and we all know it. He said that he has never been fan of thatcher's policies, he also argued that the war helpt to boost her government and dictatorship tried to do the same. Beside, he said too that both parts should find a peaceful solution. On the other hand, in another interview that i saw in tv, i dont know exactly where it was made, but the giornalist asked him if the malvinas should be argentine or british, and he answered that he thinks that they should be argentine, i will try to find out where the interview was made, so i can provide better information.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does it really matter? An artist is far from being an expert on this matter... should have kept his mouth shut and do his thing. 20th/21st century jesters should know their place.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 “A compromise means that an agreement settling the dispute is reached in which the interests of all parties are taking into consideration, even though if no one gets 100%.”
Mar 06th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prof. Kohen, now that's not really covering what the Argentinians are bringing to the table, in order for them to compromise. It appears the UK doesn't even have a sovereignty issue. So you're just telling them to compromise on something they don't have an issue on, and you're bringing nothing to the table. And this is for your children and grandchildren?
Are you really a lawyer? Seriously?
He probably said it and then, when he saw his fan blogsite where they are telling him to 'STFU', he thought 'better' of it hence the 'clarification'.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pathetic.
I do believe it was a misunderstood. In this video he clearly says that the islands should belong to argentina http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0RLLPuEf70 but he didn't say “falkland/malvinas belong to argentina”...so.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27 It's quite clear the man has returned to the UK after earning £1.86 in Argentinian pesos and realised that he had forgotten his fanbase were mainly 50 year old British people who clearly remember the falklands war and the events leading up to it.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stoopid ex-cult of celebrity gimp is stoopid.
Too late Roger. Being unable to speak Spanish is no excuse, if it is true that you can't understand it. You opened your big mouth too much and there's nothing you can say now that may change what was also registered on TV tape.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Next time, keep your fingers off the mouse-trap.
Roger Waters: “Malvinas Argentinas!”
Mar 06th, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interviewer: “But Roger, aren't most of your fans British?”
Roger Waters: *back-pedal pedal back pedal back back pedal pedal back-pedal pedal back pedal back back pedal pedal back-pedal pedal back pedal back back pedal pedal back-pedal pedal back pedal back back pedal pedal back-pedal pedal back pedal back back pedal pedal back-pedal pedal back pedal back back pedal pedal*
Interviewer: “Why the hell do I have to interview these cult-of-celebrity retards? I'm better than this”
despite all the sh*t you might say, he did say what he said.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But that does not change anything, for the time being ha
@31 In your dreams, cowgirl.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in my dreams what 32 ?
Mar 06th, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't give a flying duck about what Rogelio Aguas has got to say, I couldn't care less, but he said it, end of.
don't choke on you fish and chips, mocksucking gobsh*te
obviously there are no any British/American posters here...
Mar 06th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cowgirl ..!!..
in USA ...Cowboy=male......Herder = female ( not cowgirl)
Why not ask any pop star, film star or Walt Disney character their 'sage like' opinions about what they think about Argentina'a claims over sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, they must have worldly experience after all those years pretending to be mythical beings on a stage or screen set. Or you might as well ask them about the price of fish in Oslo for all the importance it carries? Still, it get 'air time' as without them no one would listen to the constant drip drip of bullshit and lies wafting aimless through the media produced by the well oiled Argie propaganda machine.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That must be really annoying, to be misquoted so. What would you expect from an Argentine journo? Not that Waters' opinion matters a jot, but I quite liked Pink Floyd they made excellent albums. It would have been a shame to have had to bin their music.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clarin.com/politica/Roger-Waters-relativizo-dichos-Malvinas_0_658134422.html
Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Malvinas are Argentines.
@37 Yes, the Malvinas are Argentinian, because the Malvinas don't exist. You can have Fantasia and Bimble-bumble land if you want them too.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37 But you can't have the Falklands.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bearing in mind the threats to press freedom by the Argentine oligarchy, it's hardly surprising that some lickspittle Argentine journo with career ambition should grab and distort the comments of a foreign celeb to curry favour with his masters/mistress.
Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FYI this guy has to beg CFK to take U$ instead of Arg $ out of the country after his concert.
Mar 07th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HAHAHA this is going to put a bit of a crimp in foreigner performing in ARG for awhile.
@41 I guess they paid him in Soy-oil and now no one cares about him and he's really bitter.
Mar 07th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 025 GreekYoghurt
Mar 07th, 2012 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How dare you castigate the world famous Marcelo Kohen!
http://graduateinstitute.ch/faculty/directory/kohen
Works hard doesn't he? (Tuesdays 10.30 - 12.00)
But looking at the ramblings on this board by 'Marcelo Kohen' I think we have a case of identity fraud here by an Argie. SO CARRY ON! :O)
Ladies and Gentlemen, I heard him saying what he denies now. Only God knows why he changed. If he can´t handle the heat, get off the kitchen, in other words, do not speak about what you do not know or what you are not allowed to talk to. Silence sometimes is the best answer, it is wiser. Roger, just play your very old music, take money and run.........
Mar 07th, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 I know, I've seen his details online before. The more I read about him the more I laugh when I think about how he doesn't even live in Argentina and how he shows how little he knows about politics or law and yet has the gall to refer to himself as professor. 10:30 to 12:00 are his office hours, the rest of the time he's probably ranting to students with his bounded knowledge about Las Malvinas in some lecture hall. Remind me never to go to that educational institution.
Mar 07th, 2012 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is of course if this man masquerading as Prof Kohen is actually the same person. Otherwise, awfully sorry Prof Kohen, you have someone masquerading as you online.
Of course Argentina does not like what he said. He only has nine (9) concerts at the River Plate football stadium sold out. I think that the stadium holds about 30,000 people. Thousands of “fans” started lining up early this morning in hopes of getting a ticket. By the way, it was Borges, the Argentina writer, who stated during the Falkland/Malvinas conflict, that it was like two bald men fighting over a comb. The main question that I have is that where are all these “poor” fans getting the money, at about $50 dollars (U.S.) per seat?
Mar 07th, 2012 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the interview, for the chilean t. v., he was asked if the malvinas should be argentine or british, and he answered that he thinks they should be argentine. If now he doesn't recognize what he said, may be it's because he realised that he shoulden't have said it, anyway it's just one more respectable opinion like any other, but it's interesting to debate.
Mar 08th, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well I think his analysis is very good, and theres no contradiction between not supporting the (now jailed) junta's agression, and calling as both Waters and Argentina do now for talks
Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@48 B_K,
Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately for Argentina, we belive that there is nothing to talk about.
So we decline.
lts our right.
They have nothing to bargain with.
They have nothing that we want.
They want our land & as its not theirs, we are not going to give it to them.
And we will NOT talk about it.
They have no case.
It now appears that his meeting with CFK was really not about the Falklands/Malvinas, but how he could soft-soap CFK into allowing to take his fee home in dollars or pounds, instead of in pesos.
Mar 08th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hi isolde. you have nothing that we want, except the lands you stole. so, it's not your right. it's our. you stole. you are a criminal, a pirat, someone talking craps all day because haven't even a real job. because that's what you are, nothing
Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0@51 Cero,
Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You may think what you like.
lt is of no concern to me.
However you are wrong.
They ARE OUR lslands & NOT YOURS & WE have them & you do not.
And guess what? We are going to keep them. You will NEVER get them.
Suck it up baby!
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