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Put the islanders first: key to the Malvinas/Falklands dispute
By Robert Cox (*) - Charleston, South Carolina - The misbegotten war over the Islands that need not be named has reversed the concept that war is a continuation of politics or diplomacy by other means. The conflict continues in political and diplomatic terms in Argentina and in Britain. Lost in the clamour is the key to the solution: the interests of the native Islanders. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWe're not called 'Bennys' after Benny Hill, It's after Benny from Crossroads.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 01 WestisBest
Mar 09th, 2012 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's not true, you calling Islanders as Bennies, Why ? The brits army call them Bennies Because they said they are so stupid as Benny Hill Farmers!!!
The name Benny came from a character out of Crossroads - that was 1982, the name and the program are as outdated as this writers information.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Crossroads as a series ended in 1988, along with Benny's role. The name Benny for the islanders hasn't been used in decades. But some ex squadies will conjure up the name from their dim and distant past because it sounds amusing.
Kiwisarg what do the Argentines call them? Pirates.
Personally I like to smack you head in - repeatedly.
@ 2 these are my favourite comedians, you don't know what comedy is.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xHg-A0hTqo&feature=related
In summary,who has created destruction and problems in MAlvinas,which otherwise it would have been a forgotten sub antartic island,situated in the continental shelf of Argentina? uk!!
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks brits.....you are all hearts....
5 Malvinero1
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0You still alive? Thought as the brain was dead, everything else would die soon.
3 Anti-Fascist
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I Know Some english people I have spoken And Also with some real benny's and everyeone say that, the army brits call the islanders from Bennies for Farmers malvinas stupid and linked him to Benny Hill. nobody said anything about Crssroads.... So I would like Personally to smack you head in - repeatedly too, but a lot time, Pirate!!! Malvinas are Argentinaaaaa!!ok!!
Put the islanders first: key to the Falklands dispute:
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't know whether it is widely known on the Islands that the invasion plan included “the removal of all of the inhabitants, their transport to Montevideo and their replacement with Argentine settlers,” but I do know that if the people who have a right, by birth, to the land they love are put first, there can be an end to the conflict over the Islands that I will now name as the Malvinas/Falklands or Falklands/Malvinas, if you wish.”
7 Kiwisarg - you know some “English” people and they haven't knocked some sense into you yet? You're meeting the wrong people.
“So I would like Personally to smack you head in” I would love to see you try some day.
Most Argentines I know don't give a fuck about the Falkland Islands, they tell me it's just the moron nationalists like you.
8 anti-fascist2
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hope not to have the honor to meet people like you, because it would be terrible plus old english man, you should shut up and be a little less aggressive and be more intelligent, it all started your bloody aggression because I said the truth as the brits call the Islanders! Probably you are a really Benny!!!
@ 5 You stupid peronista, the one who created problems and destruction was Juan Domindo Perón and you stupid Malvinistas.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think Bennys and Mohams should be grateful to Argentina by helping then to build Britain.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now the Islanders can enjoy some minimum basic standard of living thank to them.
Argentina helping to build nations around the world once again, following old UK tradition.
I just wonder when will be the invasion to Wales, northern England and Scotland to bring some prosperity there.
Kiwi'sArse - can't even get that little bit of history right? Benny from Crossroads.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 09 Kiwisarg
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Learn English! You sound like Benny.
The term comes from Crossroads, not that it matters.
What matters is you are a nation of fascists on a roller-coaster ride to oblivion, along with your economy, a President out of her depth and a bunch of raving loons waving flags and shouting Malvinas, Malvains.
Yeah, it's the Malvinas stupido.
Most Argentines are great people, you just have a load of morons, like you crying at the words Malvinas. It's really sad.
13 Anti-Fascist
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0really give much grief, it's unfortunate your true position of a bully and aggressive, typical old English man drunk. Just I wanted to give my position about the Bennies!!man
History repeats itself
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/flights-fish-history-repeating-itself/
Malvinero1
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0You still alive? Thought as the brain was dead, everything else would die soon
AHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Another idiot!!!.
@ 14 fake kiwi, it doesn't matter, the islands are British. I'll go to sleep, and I hope a wallaby kicks you in your head :)
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 017 xbarilox
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0another stupid aggressive benny! goes to sleep right now!!man!!
Malvinero:
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0I AAAAAAAAm Somebody
HAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA
I AAAAAAAAAAAm Somebody
HAHAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I May Be Incoherent
HAHAHHHHAAAAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
But I Am Somebody
I May Be Confused
But I Am Somebody
HAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAGGGHHAAAAA
I May Be Dribbling
But I Am Somebody
HAHAHHHHAAAAHHAAAAAAAAAAA
I May Like Playing with Worms
But I Am Somebody
I May Drag my Knuckles Along the Floor
OOOOOO OOOO AAHHH AAHHH
But I Am Somebody
My Maradona T-shirt Maybe Stained
My Susan Boyle Poster Soiled
My Face Odd
My Hair Greasy
But……………….
I AAAAAAAAm Somebody
I Am an RG
I Speak A Silly Language
But I Must Be AAHHHHHHGGGGGGGGHHHHHH …
Respected
Never Rejected
Constantly Injected
I AAAAAAAAAAAAm
Argentina’s Son
I Want Those Islands
Brits are Finished…. .Bye Bye
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAHAHAHAH
I am
Somebody
Marcos, Danyberger, JORGE, So_far, Dreyfoss & Kiwiarg:
(Scream in unison)
I Am
Somebody
Malvinero:
WhAAAAAAAAAAAt Time is it?
(Pause)
What Time is it?
AAAGAGGHHHHHHHHHAAAHHHHHHH
Marcos, Danyberger, JORGE, So_far, Dreyfoss & Kiwiarg:
(screaming and jumping around hysterically) It’s Time!!!! It’s Time AHHHHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Malvinero:
No really, I need to take my worms for a walk!
What Time is it???
Funny people :-)
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.infobae.com/notas/635996-Incidentes-por-un-buque-con-bandera-britanica-en-Comodoro-Rivadavia.html
Wrong again Kiwisarg, do you disagree with what any Falkland Islander posts on here on principle? if that is the case then I only have this to say:
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kiwisarg has not shot himself in the head.
And everything started by the brits fascist,in evicting peaceful Argentine people from Malvinas.What a troublemaker country my God....They will end very badly.....
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH to brit abroad...
21 WestisBest
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0nope you wrong again!man.... I'm not desagree with some bennies, the point is they do not like to tell them the truth, but if you do not agree with my post, you could you shoot yourself in your head right now if you want!!!mate!!
Malvinero, i missed you!
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0yes, Malvinero Where are you, Mate!!!
Mar 09th, 2012 - 04:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a bunch of children. Grow-up, people.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kiwiarg,
Mar 09th, 2012 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry but you are wrong and have now been told so several times regarding the Benny nick name.
However, your pig-headed unwillingness to accept other people correcting you is a near perfect illustration of the stereotypical, pompous, arrogant, egotistical, fascist RG!
I have said it many times before Daniel, you are an Idiot of the highest order.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Trying to prove yourself right, when you don't even know the history of the people. As such you have only strenghtened our opinion of you. If you love Argentina so much, then why not go back to Cordoba
Mind you, all malvinists share that trait don't they.
Jerry, Who rattled your cage?
Mar 09th, 2012 - 04:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0(1) WestisBest
Mar 09th, 2012 - 05:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
”We're not called 'Bennys' after Benny Hill, It's after Benny from Crossroads.”
I say:
First and foremost, very good morning to you, nice to see you’re still alive and kicking.
I would like to ask you, in a friendly and brotherly spirit, as a citizen of the world.
How can you be so positive that you aren’t called “Bennys” after Benny Hill?
How can you be so positive that it’s after “Benny” from Crossroads?
Did you ever talk with the original squadie that minted the term?
I normally trust in what Mr. Robert J. Cox writes.
He doesn’t usually tell porkies.
Do you?
PS:
Why are you so hated in New Jersey?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/BenniesGoHome.jpg
I'm old enough to remember the term being coined, and initially complained about by the Islanders.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was Crossroads - http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=benny+from+crossroads&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1280&bih=657&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=9aQiRPsJwGjtgM:&imgrefurl=http://webspace.webring.com/people/fu/uk_soaps/&docid=eil2xM_qR66FqM&imgurl=http://webspace.webring.com/people/fu/uk_soaps/Crossroads_Benny.jpg&w=352&h=288&ei=3ZZZT8qOAovMrQeQ1-mkDA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=292&vpy=145&dur=782&hovh=203&hovw=248&tx=142&ty=130&sig=117203844896853733837&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=170&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0
Now I hate YouTube, and this is not flattering but - http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=benny+from+crossroads&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1280&bih=657&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=9aQiRPsJwGjtgM:&imgrefurl=http://webspace.webring.com/people/fu/uk_soaps/&docid=eil2xM_qR66FqM&imgurl=http://webspace.webring.com/people/fu/uk_soaps/Crossroads_Benny.jpg&w=352&h=288&ei=3ZZZT8qOAovMrQeQ1-mkDA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=292&vpy=145&dur=782&hovh=203&hovw=248&tx=142&ty=130&sig=117203844896853733837&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=170&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0
Lets not forget the central point here.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The plan was simple. It included in sequential order a surprise landing on the Islands, the removal of all of the inhabitants, their transport to Montevideo and their replacement with Argentine settlers. In a naive comparison with the 19th Century, the Argentines reasoned the British had taken similar actions in 1833!
A) Only the illegal garrison and a few hold-outs were removed in 1833, the vast majority of the Settlers stayed.
B) 1833 is a long time ago.
C) The Argentines planned to ethnically cleanse the islands - now they wonder why the Islanders and the UK is so bitterly opposed to them taking the place over. With Argentinas track record on lying I could see them just doing the same again.
This needs better coverage in the UK and those utter morons like Penn and Morrisey etc who back Argentina on this dispute should have their noses rubbed in the fact that they would be backing a new round of Argentine ethnic cleansing when they show their true colours.
Your not allowed to call them bennies anymore.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Offical term is still.
As in Still in a bennie :).
no truth in the rumour that somebody swapped the road sign to port Stanley with welcome to royston vasey..
Thing is its called a sense of humour Argentina really needs to get one.
@31 I can give a fairly authoritative opinion on this one (Benny) as I was the junior staff officer in HQ BFFI responsible for discipline and ceremonial at the time it was repressed. Following a series of complaints to Commander British Forces, a Part 1 order was produced banning use of the description by service personnel. This, for a short time at least, led to the use of the term “stills” as in “still Bennys”. In return we were said to be called “Whenies” by the locals because most of our conversations began ”When I was on (the Canberra, Wireless Ridge, Tumbledown, the Falls Road, the staff of HQ BFFI etc etc)...
Mar 09th, 2012 - 07:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0The term had nothing to do with Benny Hill as you confirm but was used to describe islanders who had been born there and were working on the land or with their hands rather than those who were incomers. The latter being mainly former Royal Marines who had served there with the Naval Party or professional people doing specialist work the term couldn't be considered safe on the one hand or defensible on the other.
Malvinero!!!
Mar 09th, 2012 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are still out there ( and I mean, REALLY out there ). Your Silence had some of us worried ( a bit ). We have missed you Malv-baby.
This site just hasn't been the same with out you!
perhaps the penny has dropped and he now realises hes been on the wrong side of the arguement
Mar 09th, 2012 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 WestisBest,
Mar 09th, 2012 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now you should know better than to argue with Squatter Think. :-))))
He's the malvinistas' head turnip & knows all that goes on in the lslands.
(he thinks!).
Pretty much sums up the arrogance of know-it-all Argies - lecturing UK Brits and FI Brits about what nicknames UK Brits gave FI Brits in the past. Like an Argie would have a clue anyway... hilarious...
Mar 09th, 2012 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@38 I think it's because they want to train Fatty-tub-tub's La Campora Hitler Youth to be extra offensive while they're trying to ethnically cleanse the islands. Then they can be ethnically pure like CFK's advert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adl3dfiH6ug)
Mar 09th, 2012 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 11 DanyBerger
Mar 09th, 2012 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0So define this minimum standard of living that we Falkland Islanders enjoy. I'm keen to find out just how misinformed you are.
@ Malvinero
I see you are still touting your fake 1833. The British evicted an illegal Argentine garrison that had been in the Falklands for three months. When they got back to Buenos Aires the Argentine government hung seven of them.
@40 imagine in 1833 how happy those argies in BA would have been to have received their invasion force back with nothing to show for it, just a thorough arse kicking.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Arg.governments greedy little mafia hands would have been so sweaty with anger that I'm surprised they didn't crucify them... literally. Then make up some carp about how the British were never there.
Would have been hilarious to watch.
Both lovable British Characters but as confirmed above it was after Benny in Crossroads not Benny Hill.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway that's all in the past, the Falkland Islands have changed beyond all recognition apart from the fact that they remain British.
We'll know when the Argies plan to invade again when they start panic buying white flags. Deploying the white flag was their most successful tactic. Ask any Para who fought at Goose Green.
I have a huge respect and admiration for robert cox, he is a great giornalist, and i will always value the bravery that he had during the dictatorship. Regarding his article, i dont know neather if there was a plan really to invade the islands, and transfer the inhabitants to montevideo, but i think that his conclutions are not much diferent than mine. I have alwasy said that in order to know if the right to self determination is really applicable for this cause, both countries should accord to take the question to the i. c. j, if the court ratifies finally that self determination is applicable for the population from the islands, that's the only one way to put the wishes of the islanders first, and obviously they will choose the continue with the british protection. I think that it's not so relevant to stablish a diference betwen the wishes and the interests, because the islanders can express that it's not their interest to find a solution for the sovereign conflict that they have with argentina, the resolutions aren't specific respecting what kind of interests must be protected for the islanders. Anyway, like the u. k., and the deputies from the general assembly or not, the u. n never applied the right to self determination for this cause, like it did with others colonial situations, beside it never asked the u. k. neather to return the islands to argentina, it has only called the two parts to resume the negotiations and find a fair solution, i explained in planty of oportunities in this forum the true posture of my country regarding this conflict, with the purpose of destroying many of the twisted view which are expressed by the u. k. and by the legislators of the general assembly when they reffer the posture of argentina, but as usuall, it's expectable that you will insist buying their lies and omitions just because they say what youv like to heard, which is pathetic. It's obvious that both nations aren't sure that they can win before the i. c. j.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 Both countries take it to the ICJ? I think you'll find UK doesn't have a sovereignty issue and so it serves no purpose for the UK to take a not-issue to the ICJ. On the other hand the Argentinians do have a sovereignty issue, and so they should be the party taking this to the ICJ. What you'll find is that the UK refuses to look at any issues that existed before 1970.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK had negotiations with Argentina and resolved all of the UN resolutions with regards to negotiations. It was only when Argentina conducted a popular war that negotiations on sovereignty ended and it was when Thin Nestor Jr. decided to walk out of negotiations that the other negotiations ended.
The fact is the UK was negotiating, but you decided to start a war, you lost. The following negotiations you walked out of against the suggestion of the UN. So... I'm sorry Argentina, you're not in a position to dictate anything.
The move from UK....
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dr John Freeman, new ambassador in Argentina.....
He´s associate Fellowships at the Centre of International Relations at Cambridge University and is associated with the Centre for Conflict and Security Law at Utrecht University.
He has published a number of books and articles on arms control, most recently contributing a Chapter on the experience of implementing the Chemical Weapons Convention “Elements of a Nuclear Disarmament Treaty: Unblocking the Road to Zero, Washington, 2010.”
hmm....he could help to develop better Anglo-Aregntine relations ??
i hope he´d a wise man.... let´s wait.
@45 He's an ambassador. He does whatever current policy tells him to do. Current policy tells him to just ignore the mafia-Argentinians. End of story.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 43 cry, it's good for you, it will ease your pain :)
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems to me that Bob Cox was embedded in Argentina culture but criticised the Junta because it was the correct thing to do.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He does not seem to have suffered for that. Even when he had to leave Argentina he ended up in the USA as an editor. Some would say he got the best end of the deal. Which one of us would choose Argentina over the USA of 30 years ago (not too sure of today with the stupid terrorist laws)?
So I am confused by this man. What is he really saying?
It just seems a self-puffing exercise in that he knew before anyone else that:
1) there was a plan to invade the Falklands (there are no Malvinas);
2) that Hadow was being stymied atevery turn to get the Islanders to join with Argentina because of the agressive behaviour by them towards the Falklanders;
3) “but I do know that if the people who have a right, by birth, to the land they love are put first, there can be an end to the conflict over the Islands that I will now name as the Malvinas/Falklands or Falklands/Malvinas, if you wish.” This guy cannot even get the name of the place correct, never mind have an inciteful conclusion.
I am just UNDERWHELMED by this article.
@48 Your guess is as good as mine.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(31) Mr. Lorton & (34) Mr. DoveoverDover
Mar 09th, 2012 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As usual the best info comes from the intelligent posters…..
After ~2 minutes Internet research; I’m inclined to agree with you both….......:
A British Benny:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/31/article-1210298-003990E700000258-728_233x362.jpg
A Kelper Benny:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/31/article-1210298-003990E700000258-728_233x362.jpg
I took the liberty of forwarding your comments to Bob so he, in the future, can avoid committing the same unnecessary mistake….
PS I: Mr. DoveoverDover
Junior Staff officer in HQ BFFI responsible for discipline and ceremonial somewhere between 1983-2000.……
You may as well use your real name from now on, as Mr. Lorton does, … Most Kelpers in here must already have a pretty accurate idea about of your identity.
As we say in Patagonia....: “Pueblo Chico, Infierno Grande”
PSII: Cher Isolde
Did you ask Mr. Tim if it was his signature on that 1982 ABCC letter to Lizzy?
@34 Doveoverdover
Mar 09th, 2012 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was exactly what I heard from returning Pongos at the time.
The term “Bennys” was a reference to the character in Crossroads.
Following complaints, orders were issued to all military personnel NOT to use the term when referring to locals.
Hence forth they became “Stills” in military slang.
“Still frigging Bennys”
“In 2005 the Buenos Aires legislature recognized Cox for his valor during the dictatorship”
Mar 09th, 2012 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not sure if this is really an asset...
In short…………
Mar 09th, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A bunch of Kelpers whined to the Staff Officer responsible for Discipline and Ceremonial in HQ BFFI (and his junior) about being called “Bennies” after a character of Crossroads instead of after Benny Hill and as a result of their whining they ended being called “Still Frigging Bennys”
Chuckle chuckle®
todo argentino sabe que las Islas Falkland fueron,son y seran Britanicas o Independientes
Mar 09th, 2012 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0expat:todo argentino sabe que las Islas Falkland fueron,son y seran Britanicas o Independientes
Mar 09th, 2012 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
54 & 55 your message translates easily as 'every British subject knows that the Malvinas were, are and will be an Argentine province'.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0English is not my mother tongue (albeit it is indeed my first language), so may I kindly ask you to correct me if my translation is wrong?
Cheers!
TGIF!!!!
“ ... even Hadow, who was not mean-spirited in any way, considered the Islanders ”natives“ in the most demeaning sense of the word.”
Mar 09th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My God, the English consider the inhabitants to be the indigenous inhabitants - you know, a bit like the first post-glacial pre-Colombian inhabitants of Argentina, where they are not called natives, they are called indians - the mapuche, the quilmes, etc.
Both places are populated by the indigenous people and whereas TFI could accord themselves 'independence' and ownership should they chose to not be a Protectorate, the indigenous of Argentina have no chance of being their own people in their own country. They are forever ruled by their colonists who, historically, have erradicated their mosaic of tribes from their homelands.
2 Kiwisarg----- Fuck me with a twisted banana you halfwit, everyone knows why the Kelpers were called Bennies and it was not because of Benny Hill you moron, watch crossroads you numpty
Mar 09th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn4ZVqYIACs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn4ZVqYIACs
Personally, I would love to stick my 50-inch flat television up your backside sideways while it was still plugged in to the electricity
hahaha
Mar 09th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50
Mar 09th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I doubt it. No one complained directly to me, I only pushed the paperwork and organised parades . It was also some time ago and between 1982 and 2000 there were certainly no less than 26 holders of that honoured post. As we say in Scotland: Big Army, Small World” .
When I was there in 91 part one orders had the practice of cousin jokes will cease henceforth :)
Mar 09th, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(60) Mc DoveoverDover
Mar 09th, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I knew you were a Scot the second you wanted me to pay for the room :-)
Please, don´t subestimate our cunning Kelper friends………………
They surely remember which year they whined to the Whenies not to call them Bennies and what year the right papers were pushed by the right person in that bold and decisive move against that flagrant violation of their human rights………….
That narrows those 26 holders to a much more manageable number.
Amazing what makes these Argies happy,
Mar 09th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[Still] if they did not laugh at this blog, it would be another, would it not,
Sticks and stones my friends,, sticks and stones .
.
GREEK YOGHURT.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is evident that you are not good to make analysis about politic issues.
If only argentina must propose to take the case to the i. c. j, then answer me why, the u. k. proposed argentina in 1947 to take the dispute for the dependencies of the islands to the court?, and answer me also why, it didn't include the malvinas in the proposal?. Beside, you must remember than betwen 1884 and 1888, argentina suggested the u. k. to propose to take the question to the arbitration, and it rejected that idea finally.
On the other hand, it seems that you forget that after the war, the u. n continued calling the two nations, in order to resume the negotiations and find a fair solution. I dont deny that may be our government commited a mistake when it recalled the agreements that it signed in the past with the u.k, but at the same time, you never accepted to discuss about the sovereignty which is the main issue, i wont explain you again the true posture of my coutry regarding this dispute, because you already know it, anyway i know that you will understand just what you want, and wont recognize that your side is not acting correctly neather.
@62 Don Think, I wait in fear and trepidation to be outed. Meanwhile, I have to come to terms with the perennial conflict between wishes and interests. I wish to stay up with a dram or two, a bowl of steaming oats and swap jolly comments with you late into the early hours but Mrs McDod says it's in my interest to go to bed. I wish you goodnight.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(65) Mr DoD, good for you, you have somebody who cares for your best interests and protect you from your sick wishes ;-)
Mar 09th, 2012 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64 because we don't take ancient history (anything before 1970) to the ICJ. In Argentina where your glory years never really existed you have to recreate some fake historical time of when you gloriously tried to steal some land from other people (you don't write that you got your arses handed to you, or that Vernet had to ask the UK for permission). However, in the UK we live in the real world.
Mar 09th, 2012 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why the hell would we take sovereignty of the Falklands to the ICJ? We don't have an issue with sovereignty of the Falklands. Only in Argentina do they have that issue, so surely they should take it to the ICJ.
Before the war we were negotiating on everything, including aspects of sovereignty in order to get the conversation going. However, the Argentinians (don't try to blame the Junta) decided to have a populist war and invaded the Falklands, showing that they couldn't be trusted. The Argentinians then ignored UN SCR 502 and tried to ignore UNSCR 708 by planning ethnic cleansing. Yet again, the argentinians couldn't be trusted.
We then decided to negotiate other things fulfilling the post-1982 UN Requests. We took sovereignty off the table because you started and lost a war, rather than negotiate. Then your president decided he didn't like negotiation and walked out. The UK and FIG were sat negotiating without an Argentina.
So, what would you have done in their position? Why would Argentina go to the UN and complain about negotiations that they walked out of? Why would Argentina start a war rather than negotiate peacefully?
Who is the real Benny?
Mar 10th, 2012 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPYwr4TY8As&feature=related
Lets not forget Miss Diane, Benny was her stalker :)
Mar 10th, 2012 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8MsQ0AcLo
Sadly Miss Diane died and strangely Benny left soon after but still to this day he guards her grave,refusing to move even for ice cream.
A.J.Rimmer
Mar 10th, 2012 - 05:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0you are really idiota and unintelligent if you have something to tell me, please do it privately, asshole!!!
@58Britishbulldog,
Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wouldn't it be more fun to shove it there with the power off?
Then when the ldiot's bowels had adjusted to the invasion, turn the power on!
That would be something to see!
(65) Doveoverdover
Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Strange how some apparently innocent comments can open your eyes…….
It suddenly striked me how totally different, disparate, differing, distinct, dissimilar, diverse and divergent we Patagonians (diagos) and Kelpers (anglos) are.
I would too have had a dram or two yesterday, swapped jolly comments late into the early hours and said ”Yes Dearest” to Mrs deThink (if I still was hitched with any of them:-)
But the Oats Mr. Mc DoD………………...................... the Oats!
They MUST be eaten raw, they MUST be coarse rolled, they MUST swim in ice-cold, fatty milk and they MUST be generously sprinkled with some Demerara or, even better, Muscovado sugar………
You ruin your oats by cooking them !!!
Haven’t you learned anything from the Vikings ???
As sweet Kelperette Monty96 always says: “Two totally different worlds”
Chuckle chuckle©
Think,
Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 01) cold oats with cold milk & golden syrup
OR
2) cooked oats with creamymilk & maple syrup
(73) Give up, Cher Isolde.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Our “Special Relationship” is definitively over.
You did insult this “Thinking” man once for many.
You won’t be able to weasel yourself into my appreciation again.
Not by shameless adulation, nor playing the dumb blonde, nor even through my stomach :-)
Have a nice life
Yours forever
El Think, Chubut, Argentina.
Oh dear, dear Think.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please tell me that you don't mean that.
l'll never give up.
(be still, my beating heart!)
What do l have to do :-)))))?
Don't answer that question!
Thinkus horribilus, you know that you can't live without my scathing posts.
You do flatter yourself, my viejo verde, don't you.
What is a malvinista for, if not to insult?
Any man can be captivated by good cooking.
Except maybe a master chef!
But there are other ways :-))))
Coffee time,
Have a nice life, too♥
GREEK YOGHURT.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0In my work, i tell about the rights of both countries over the islands in 1833, including the arguments that you typed in your comment, anyway i know that you wont ask me to send it to you.
On the other hand, the war is your best excuse, but, i remind you AGAIN, that after war the u. n continued calling the two parts of the conflict to resume the negotiations and find a fair solution, so, it must be respected by both nations, i wont never deny the mistakes of my country, because i'am not nor idiot nor injudicious, but it's really pathetic the fact that you, and many of your compatriots dont recognize that your side is not acting correcty neather. Regarding the behaviour of our people during the dictatorship, i already explained it to you in others oportunities, and i wont repeat it, meantime keep on understanding whatever you want as usuall.
Did any Kelper ever asked Mr. Lough if it was his signature on that 1982 ABCC letter to Lizzy?
Mar 10th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 071 lsolde------I suppose it would be far more fun to stick it up his backside with the power switched of. Can you imagine his reaction when we switched the power back on and the shit in his bowls mixed with the shit on the box.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@76 How are we not behaving correctly by protecting a small democracy from being annexed by a country that appears to be run by a family dictatorship slash pseudo-italian mafia? I'm not seeing what we're doing wrong here?
Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you mean not negotiating? We did negotiate. You decided to negotiate militarily and you lost. YOU LOST THE NEGOTIATION. Then we negotiated on oil and fishing, and you just walked out, thereby going against the UN wish that we negotiate. YOU WALKED OUT OF NEGOTIATIONS.
Still wondering what the UK did wrong here?
Can you be more explicit with your feedback?
58 Britishbulldog
Mar 11th, 2012 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL kukooargi is so dumb
If it is all so wonderful and clear, then talking and listening (to a non-binding resolution) should not cause you all to gag on it so much.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0If and when you do, truth will be out and you will have a Falklands that is beyond dispute and a Malvinas as well.
Errmmm What is a diagos? any help?
Mar 11th, 2012 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@82DanyBerger,
Mar 11th, 2012 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Already been explained some weeks back.
Weren't you paying attention?
Google it at the top rhs of the page.
@83 lsolde
Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Already been explained some weeks back.
Weren't you paying attention?”
Ehhhh nope where?
Still in shadows what the hell is a diagos?? Any diago can help me?
(84) Dany Berger
Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0My bad…………… As I seldom use pejoratives, I don’t know how to spell them.
Should have typed “Diegos”
That’s what the Brutish Pirate Turnips call us, latinos :-)
@Think,
Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah! Do you mean “dago” but if they are a mix of Latinos, Spanish and Hohammeds?
Have they forgot that GB was a province of the Roman Empire? The ignorant British as still looking for where they came from. : )
85 Think
Mar 11th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''That’s what the Brutish Pirate Turnips call us''??
No it isn't. Falkland Islanders have several names for you, none of which I'm going to write here. “Diegos” isn't one of them.
The 'Bennies' thing is ancient history. Islanders often call themselves Bennies, or just 'Bens'. It has spawned a whole vocabulary of its own eg 'Bennytech'.
86 DanyBerger
You're an ignorant racist cretin. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and blame the language barrier, but I actually think you might just be an idiot.
Everyone knows that Brittania was a province of the Roman Empire. Fortunately, the Romans had the good sense to go back where they came from without leaving too much of an impression on the gene pool.
And even if they hadn't, what of it? It's quite remarkable what two millenia of historical and cultural development can achieve.
I don't think we need to look too hard for where you came from, with your icky obsession with racial origins and your contempt for our non- aryan compatriots.
In Australia they burn the boat of anyone violating their sea, I demand the Argentine government and civilians to do the same with any illegal alien traspassing our oceans or land, what is good for white supremacist should also be good for everyone else.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0GREEK YOGHURT.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I explained my arguments to you in diferent oportunities, anyway, i'll do it one more time, and i hope you understand them.
Firstly, the war of 1982, which was handled by a fascist dictatorship that kidnapped, tortured and killed 30000 people in our country, and destroyed our national production, seems to be your best excuse.
On the other hand, i never denied the fact that may be our government committed a mistake when it recalled the agreements that it had signed in the past with the u. k., but at the same time, your side rejects sistematicly all the resolutions that call the two parts of the conflict to resume the negotiations, and that's not correct obviously, that's why i say that your side is not acting correctly neather, beside, i already explained you too in others comments, about the true posture of my country regarding this dispute, and explained you also what the u. n asks both nations, anyway if you prefer to keep on understanding just what you want, it's your problem, but it's so pathetic.
The u. n never said that the sovereignty must be discussed only if the islanders wish it, beside it neather invoked never the right to self determination for this cause, like it did with others colonial situations, the u. n still considers the malvinas-falkland cause like a special colonial situation, if you dont believe me, i suggest you to read the statements by the councellours of the islands before the decolonization committee, where they complain about these questions. I respect you opinion, but i dont agree on it, the analysis of the question must be ample, because there are many aspects that we must take into account, beside you know what i think about why none of the two parts proposes to take the dispute to the i. c. j, which would be the only one solution for this conflict according to view.
@88 Pirat-Hunter
Mar 11th, 2012 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sound good to me, anything Argy on, under or flying over the sea more than 12 nauticial miles off the Argentinian coast gets blasted.
You have one week to evacuate you bases in British Antartic Territory, before we blast them.
@89Axel,
Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We don't have to take anything to the ICJ as we don't have a problem with ownership of the Falklands.
Argentina is the one with the problem.
Argentina is the one who should take their problem to the ICJ.
Why won't they do this, Axel?
ISOLDE.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As you could see, i dont use to answer your comments, because i never read any interesting argument in them, but this time i''ll give you an answer.
I said in planty of oportunities that my country suggested since 1884 untill 1888 to take the dispute to the arbitration, but the u. k. rejected that idea, beside in 1947, the u. k. proposed argentina to take the question of the dependencies to the court, but it didn't include the malvinas-falkland islands in the proposal, anyway, our government rejected that proposal, after that year, none of the two parts proposed again to take the dispute to the court. May be both aren't sure that they can win, so the best that both can do, is to resume the negotiations and find a fair solution, i already explained the true posture of my country in diferent oportunities, including what c. f. k expressed in some forums regarding this dispute.
Please, can somebody give me an explanation about the term Argies, I want to know the reason if name as in that way, but please start for the meaning of the word.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0In spanish sound despreciatory, hope it doesnt.
thank you
@pepegalleta
Mar 12th, 2012 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0From the British Royal Language Academy appointed by Her Majestic & highness Elizabeth Queen II
Argy= Slang noun meaning inferior dirty specie, homosexual sucker, mother fucker and darky shit eater Latino from Argentina.
Nah I’m joking means Argentinian like you use Bolita for Bolivian do you get it now?
But you can call them Mohammeds, kebab eaters or little affen quite acceptable worldwide in friendly conversations on these days.
@pepegalleta Argy is British slang for Argentinian. It is simply a contracted version of the name of that country. Its a bit like calling us “Brits” or Scottish people “Scotts”.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is usually used in an insulting context, because it is easier to add emphasis to the shorter word.
95 Thank you for the answer,
Mar 12th, 2012 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have a great night
54 What it says is,according to my knowledge of Spaish, that every Argentine knows that the islands were British, are British, willbe British or independent.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 097 Whag every Argentine knows is that Malvina are part of Argentina
Mar 12th, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Except they arnt you couldn't persuade the islanders in the 70s.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The half arsed invasion and following war did nothing to improve relations.
Moved the Falklands from an embarrassing bit of empire to a national treasure.
30 years of whining and playing silly buggers has not made the islanders like you.
The Uk doesn't care your no threat. You've nothing to offer the islanders or the UK. the Uk would do a deal if it was worth there while. But it isn't.
You couldnt even stick to the deal you signed.
99 islanders doesn t matter in this issue, Argentina will negociate with UK,
Mar 12th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0100 pepegalleta
Mar 12th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly for you, chum, the Islanders do matter to the UK, and the UK will not do anything that affects us without asking us first.
100 pepegalleta
Mar 12th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you learnt nothing? What the Islanders want and their point of view counts for EVERYTHING. They are British and they want to remain British. They don't want to be Argentinian, we have seen the news reels of the Argentine security forces shooting their own people dead in the streets and they don't want ANY part of that at all. No thank you. So because, we in the U.K respect, I'll use that word again, just in case any one from Argentine-land is listening, because we respect their wishes, we are not going to do anything, not without the 100% backing of the islanders themselves.
Lots of Love
the U.K
101 and 102
Mar 12th, 2012 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To Argentina only UK matters not the islanders,
103 pepegalleta
Mar 12th, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is why you fail.
but if the islands are under Uk why we hace to negociate with the isladers?
Mar 13th, 2012 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Because those are the conditions, pepe.
Mar 13th, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0But of course there will be no negotiations on sovereignty.
We can talk about trade or fishing, or what you like.
But NOT on sovereignty.
105 pepegalleta
Mar 13th, 2012 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0aaannnndddd round we go again......... When does this show ever stop?
106 lsolde
Do you think that, if you say it enough times, they might actaully “get it”?
Or do you you feel that you are just banging your head against a brick wall?
Or worse, do you think that they understand and listen to what you have to say but then discount and ignore you?
I think if a new government take place in Argentina will be open to negociate with UK in a different way, but CFK is different.
Mar 13th, 2012 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hope next president could be Macri, he will negociate in different way, he will start to create a relationship between Argentina snd the Uk, but I sm sure it will be a new war in the future. A lit if natural resources plus Antartic, it can take may 10 years but there is gonna be a new war for bad. I don t think anybody here wants a new war, but is gonna happen
(108) Pepe
Mar 13th, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a............................................Turnip.
108 pepegalleta
Mar 13th, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Be careful what you wish my Argie-Land chum. Anyway, you are right, there will be a new war soon. but I don't think it will be you and us oh no, there are a lot more flash points around this world, just take your pick:-
USA vs Iran before the end of this year I think, could be a lively one ( the smart money is on first blood to Iran )
North Korea Vs South Korea. Late kick off this one, while North Korea finishes morning their “God” leader ( please ). If this does kick off, watch out for the guest appearance by Uncle Sam
China vs Japan. Bit of an outsider this one. a rivally steeped in centuries of mis-trust and Bloodletting. Now set to bang heads in the south China seas over a miserable bunch of Islands no one really wants.....
Everyone vs Syria. Should have been underway ages ago but a slow start this one and is already off the front pages of most newspapers ( a worrying sign ) still, some one might have the commen sence huh?
China vs USA. Do I hear the sabers starting rattle as the old champ meets the new kid on the block. USA at the moment is like sand ( it gets everywhere ). This one promises to the big one and should bring the crowds out. Again, the South China sea will be the playing ground for this one, eyes down for a full house!!
Uk vs France, never going to happen but you can hope, can't you?
@ 107 toooldtodieyoung
Mar 13th, 2012 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the tactic is to just f*ck with peoples heads. I learnt the word 'sophistry' whilst following this story and it is oh so apt.
It is a superficially plausible argument that does not stand up to even cursory examination but repeated over and over ad infinitum in the belief that by doing so it becomes true. Some actually believe the argument which is a testament, I suppose, to the Argentine school curriculum.
In the very initial stages, before the UK even had time to respond in any way, Argentine ministers actually started the debate by saying that the UK government was making a fuss about this issue simply to distract from issues in the UK. And I thought “the lady doth protest too much”. Other axioms sprang to mind like 'going off half cocked' and 'jumping the gun'. Really, they should have waited until the British had actually responded in some way before making this accusation, it let the cat out of the bag way too early for the argument to retain any credibility. They knew that this charge would be levelled against them and pre-empted it. Or should I say pre-pre-empted it. Utterly shite timing in other words.
As the hullubuloo progressed the British government made one single statement in the HoC in response to a specific question on the issue which was hailed in Argentina as endless sabre rattling from the UK side.
Again. The lady did and does doth protest too much.
The episode of the 'Conquistador Pirate Prince', yes the one in his big shiny yellow helicopter going around deliberately rescuing people in distress; when I thought conquistadors went round infecting the natives with pox and the common cold, putting to the sword those that didn't die of european diseases.
The T45 'Death Star' destroyer able to lay waste the whole of South America, nuclear weapons in 'Argentine waters' and ........
.................. oh bugger I am about to run out of available text.
Really this mob could be outwitted by a wet paper bag......
109 sorry but the turnip or nabo in spanish are you, plus all your ads are stupid to me, please don t answr my post, I din t really think you have enough brain to talk with me, I never ask you anything, keep yourself in your business, I don t like to talk with retrogade people.
Mar 13th, 2012 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0111 Furry Fat
Don t missunderstand me, I don t wish any war, I lost family members becouse of wars in Israel and it is never a good idea a war.
What I said about a new South Atlantic war is becouse in the near future natural resources are gonna be the reason to start a wa.
Why do you think US and the 4 batallon is starting to try to build militar bases in all south America?, now Combia has some and US is showing interest in build some more bases in Tierra del fuego, I know US and UK are friends and fight toghether agains different states, but at the en of the day US will protect his own business and Argentina is part of those business, geopolitical that include narural resources, it will be impossible to UK to be the owners of Malvinas without US approvation, natural resources are more than oil, it cober food and water too, plus US knows that China is behind those resources and don t forget Rusia.
We are living in a different time than the 82 and Reagan time is over, cold war is over, that is way now US name the islands Malvinas not Falklands. If the Republicans doesn t win the next election Democratas will never allow UK to take all natural resources from Latin America becouse Brasil, Argentina and Paraguay are full of water, oil and food. And remember, Europa is trating to stablish the euro as a international moneda for international trade, that is something that US will never let this happen, Sadam was trating to sale oil in euros and every body knows what happend with him and his country.
Brasil is developing with argentina an Army just to protect N resources, US is conducting special forces training in Argentina and Brasil to deffend the area becouse of N resources.
@112 pepegalleta (#)
Mar 13th, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You will likely find that when the US is speaking to the UK they call the Falkland Islands...... erm..... the Falkland Islands. When the US is speaking to Argentina they call them the Malvinas. When they speak in an international forum they will usually try to avoid a name altogether. I have heard them called 'The South Atlantic Islands' by US diplomats or failing that Falkland/Malvinas.
The reason being that the US stance is neutral and they can be very diplomatic when they want to be.
You talk as though war for oil is a new concept and in the grand scheme of things the US would rather trade oil with a steady, reliable partner than a shaky unreliable one. They know that if they strike a deal with UK traders, the deal will be a good one and if it all goes horribly wrong (BP anybody), the UK will do it's utmost to make good.
This level of trust is earned over time, it isn't written into an agreement and signed for. Argentina sign agreements all the time. Equally, Argentina cannot be trusted to keep their agreements so if there is an ocean of oil around the Falkland Islands, the US would want it to be secure and administered properly and fairly when supply deals are struck.
I am only guessing here, I don't pretend to know what other people are actually thinking but if I had a choice between a Falkland/UK administration and an Argentine administration with regard to energy security I'd be supporting the FIG/UK administration by default.
And as for America building bases in South America? You really do think they are to strike against the UK don't you? Go on. Admit it. President Obama is plotting to strike against the Brits isn't he? Is that what you are thinking?
The only political lobby in the US anywhere near as powerful as the pro Israeli camp is the pro British camp. Barrack Obama may or may not harbour nasty thoughts about the British but he also knows he'd be committing political suicide if he acted on them. He'd lose too many votes.
Furry 111
Mar 14th, 2012 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0What you said is reassonable, the only think to me that you are not taken in consideration and it is only an idea, Mercosur is growin and is the most important market in south america as a region, Brasil is included plus Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and some other associates states like Chile who actually is pushing to be a permanent member, all togheter the region is a interesant market to any country. It will not very smart to any country or region to affect the trades. Us is trating to control bia Army all Anerica, actually there are special forces in Argentina. And please don t take me wrong but N resources are the motive for future wars, as I told you, oul, food any class, water, fertl land, and US want to be sure that all resources are secure and if UK try to affect the region, in this politician world a friend can be my enemy in the future.
Brasil wants to create an Army with Argentina just to protect N resources
@107 toooldtodieyoung,
Mar 14th, 2012 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0They will never get it because of the lies they teach at school.
Every year at graduation time there is a fresh group of malvinistas unleashed upon the world.
All we can do is look to our defences.
Maybe in the future we can devise a force field around the Falklands to repel them. LOL LOL
115 lsolde
Mar 14th, 2012 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hear you, it would be laughable... if it wasn't so sad ( sigh )
109 Think
You ever tried parsnips? Roast Parsnips are scrummy!! even better when roasted in duck fat......yum, yum
Mad psychotic bitch is the best term for Cristina Fernández de Kirchner the current disaster president of Argentina!
Mar 15th, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Others around Cristina Kirchner that are also crooks are her vice-president, Amado Boudou, he is actually an owner of the company that prints money for the government in Argentina, a major conflict of interest, but he denies it, he owns the company in the names of other friends and associates. He is being investigated and surely will end up in jail where he belongs. Cristinas 2 VERY UGLY children, Maximo and Florencia Kirchner, are also very corrupt. Maximo owns all kinds of hotels and properties adn Florencia is a film student in New York and lives in a luxury Park Avenue apartment and is known for major cocaine use. Some of us who know her in New York remember how she always used to tell us how her parents have a bank account drawn on the Nation of Argentina and for her family money is no object. These 2 corrupt children of Cristina Kirchner are self proclaimed “militants”, they belong to 2 internal terrorist groups which Cristina Kirchner finances, “La Cámpora” and “Quebracho”. “La Cámpora” goes around to the poor shantytowns around the cities in Argentina and gives the poor people a bag of groceries, a sausage sandwich called “choripan” and $20 pesos to buy their votes. These people have no choice but to accept this as they are extremely poor and have no other hope. “Quebracho” is a terrorist group which Cristina Kirchner pays to protect her, they disguise their faces and go around shaking down businesses to get money and give back to the president. They are also responsible for drug dealing, robberies and murders.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
Rebeldenacion, te pareces a esos pseudointelectuales que no sabe reconocer la diferencia entre una politica de estado y un presidente-
Mar 15th, 2012 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tus agresiones son una muestra de lo patético que eres.
For you and same sa you:
“Islanders for UN are same as the rocks of Malvinas; they are the object, not the subject of discussion”
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1456778-timerman-para-las-naciones-unidas-los-islenos-son-como-las-rocas
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1456778-timerman-para-las-naciones-unidas-los-islenos-son-como-las-rocas
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1456778-timerman-para-las-naciones-unidas-los-islenos-son-como-las-rocas
Maybe NOW your companies start to think in make new bussiness in SAtlantic .... sell salad waters in bags built whit some kind of algas made from Malvinas :D
Regards.
@118 Rosarino
Mar 15th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Islanders for UN are same as the rocks of Malvinas; they are the object, not the subject of discussion”
This is why no discussions are taking place.
And they won't, ever.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0The RGs just don't get it.
And they're not going to get it(the Falklands)either.
120 lets talk as a civilians becouse I am not a mhlitar abd I don t want to be one, I don t know about you, I lost family members in Israel army, that is way I don t like wars, I am sure Timerman said Rocks as an example, just to be clear that negociations will be with UK not with the islanders.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But without any bad intention
@121 pepegalleta
Mar 16th, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Without the agreement of the Islanders, there are not going be any negotiations.
You must have realised this by now!
@121 pepegalleta,
Mar 17th, 2012 - 04:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do YOU think that we are an “implanted” population, pepe?
Do YOU think that we are “squatters”.
If I look back in my family pass becouse of the second world war my grantparents left Polonia and Rusia , I am jewish, i lost part if my family in the nazis hands, I were born in Argentina and after 25 tears and with the help of CArlos M who destroyed the country I moved to US, my sister to Madrid and my brother to Barcelona, my parents are still in Argentina but traveling to visit all of us most of the time, very sad to have the fanily all over the world .
Mar 17th, 2012 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0To answer your question I can tell youi that I din t know where I an from.
If your questiin was about implanted becouse of the Spanish Imperio my answer is not.
I were born in Argentina and I feel that I an Argentine. not inplanted.
If I am still here in US is becouse I don t like how every Argentine government played yhe game and I don t like Peronistas governments.
Regarding Malvinas issue I don t care about ant government I think is a state issue, that is different than government issue.
I have nothing against the people in Malvinas or the actuals habitantes, Malvinas people was born in Malvinas that means is theyr land, same case than me and I think the Argentine government has to respect everybodys land and properties. but I think Malvinas are oart of Argentina, to me UK is wrong not the people in the islands.
this answer your question?
@124
Mar 17th, 2012 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is the UK government wrong about exactly? Like you the UK government supports the Falklanders. That being the case then you and the UK government are in agreement.
Don't you see the paradox of your argument?
The only difference is that the UK government can and chooses to accept the FI request for defensive equipment to deter against a repeat of what your country did in 1982.
So I ask again. What exactly is the British government wrong about when all they are doing is supporting the Falkland Islanders right to self determination? Which you said in your last post that you too support.
@124pepegalleta,
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Partly answered.
Are the Jews implanted in lsrael?(the Palestineans think so)
A lot of South American countries have recently supported the Palestineans.
And lsrael gave help to Argentina in 1982.
Gets complicated, doesn't it?
124pepegalleta,
Mar 17th, 2012 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Partly answered.
Are the Jews implanted in lsrael?(the Palestineans think so)
A lot of South American countries have recently supported the Palestineans.
And lsrael gave help to Argentina in 1982.
Gets complicated, doesn't it?
isolde,swette.One thing is for Sure.Argentina will never relinquish MAlvinas.Does not matter which government.So we are going to get Malvinas,in one way or the other!
Sweet dreams
125 Again, to me the people living in Malvinas are part of the Argentinian population as I told you before, I think the ownership of every individual in Malvinas need to be honored by the Ergentinian government but under the Argentine sovereignty, I am not looking for to offend anybody.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To me Malvinas are part of Argentina and the UK government doesn t have the right to be involve in the Malvinas administration.
that is the difference in how I see the issue and you .
126 Isolde to answer your question ther is differents ways to see the creation of Israel.
If you ask a ortodox Jewish he will tell you that Israel is not Israel, but for Sionistas Israel is Istael abd the land belong to Israel. The creation of the Israel state was discussed in the UN and got the approval for mayority.
this is the diffence with UK that doesn t want to honor what UN said, to sit down and discuss with Argentina about the islands.
127 A lot support Palestinian state is truth, remember Argentina never change in the UN the negative voto for the creation of the Israel state.
Well, pepe, we'll have to agree to disagree.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands do not belong to Argentina despite all the lies that you were taught at school.
We will never agree to be colonized & ruled by Argentina, so l guess there will be perpetual war.
So you say, Argentina voted AGAINST the creation of the state of lsrael?
Are you sure about that?
They gave you help in 1982. AFTER you had voted against them?
Doesn't seem likely.
@127Malvinero1,
Sorry to disappoint you mi amo, but Argentina, will NEVER get the Falklands.
l'm also disappointed in you, Malvi. No:-
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH
& You are FINSHED, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
I had come to expect it.
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