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Mercosur tourism industry had a turnover of 15 billion dollars in 2011

Friday, March 9th 2012 - 22:52 UTC
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The Mercosur tourism industry had a turnover of 15 billion dollars last year with the Brazilians providing the largest number of tourists to the group’s associates, according to a report from neighboring countries representatives presented at the International Tourism Bourse in Berlin. Read full article

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  • GreekYoghurt

    I wonder how much of this was from Fatty-fatty-tub-tub Nestor Jr's hitler youth group Le Camping? They must do those away trips where they meat-up with the League of German Maidens and Mafia Ladies.

    This isn't an insignificant amount of money.

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Tourism for Argentina represented 6 billion dollars becoming the third most important industry of the country

    No disrespect to Argentina, but tourist wont holiday in a bomb site,
    Or a country in a violent dispute, or a country who is effectively self embargoing its self,

    If you value tourist that much, then I suggest you straighten your selves out,
    Turning away profits is just counter productive .

    .

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @1

    How bizarre then that The Botox Queen turns ships away from her own country. she isnt piss wise (as they say in my neck of the woods).

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @2 I wonder what this latest spat is doing for their tourism industry. Seriously, it must be putting a dampener on it. Like no one wants to go to Argentina and have kids from Nazi youth movement 'le camping' trying to harass them.

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    what they need, is a tourist haven,
    the falklands perhaps,
    cheaper , quieter , and more welcoming .

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    People come to Argentina because:

    - it's crime rate is similar to the USA, much lower than the rest of Latin America, so people do not feel any threat as long as they take sensible precautions

    - because it's land borders are settled (unlike the rest of the nations of the Americas from Alaska to Chile which are still a bit immature in that area), so no risk of overland war

    - because we don't have internal separatism (like the more unstable European nations), which means all parts of the country are safe and open

    - because we have no guerrilas (unlike some other countries)

    - because we don't have narco cartels running lose (again, different situation elsewhere

    - because we are tolerant to women (different story in the rest of LATAM)

    - because we are tolerant of gays and lesbians (different matter in North and Central America and our neighbors, just look at American politics or Brazilian attacks on gays)

    - because we are less racist (compare what is going in Europe: France and anti-muslim laws, Spain and immigrant shootings, Italy and blacks being evicted, Germany and Turks murdered by far right elements, England and south Asians or brazilians being shot by police, USA and xenophobia)

    - religious freedom (protestant churches completely free, Muslims can build huge mosques, Jews can have their own Kosher McDonalds), etc.

    Simple formula really: reasonable safety, at peace with all its neighbors, a country where all provinces are strongly united, no guerillas, no narcos, no intolerance, no homophobia, no misogyny, no religious bigotry.

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @6

    Where's the punch line?

    Your description sounds like Denmark not some third world banana republic hitler youth league country such as Argentina.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @6 I'd class what you did there as freudian and probably 'distortion'. You seem to think Argentina isn't just incredibly white through huge amounts of genocide, and ODESSA immigration.

    You also fail to mention important things like endemic poverty, exchange rate, annoying locals shouting 'malvinas argentinas', people getting stabbed or thrown under trains for being brown, Jewish temples being bombed. “at peace with all its neighbors” .. you bully your neighbours and you call the falklands 'at peace'. No misogyny (???) but lots of Machismo.

    You really are a piece of work, with your reality-bending. It's very very funny that you actually believe what you type.

    Meanwhile in Argentina, no one gets on a AR plane.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    Well, tell me where I lied?

    Is our crime rate within civilized parameters? YES.

    Are Argentina's land borders more settled than any other in the Americas? YES.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes#Europe

    Look at Brazil, Colombia, Venezuela, Chile... they have disputes with virtually ALL their neighbors. Canada and the USA have a half dozen. USA, Cuba and Mexico... lol

    Compared to Europe?

    Wow you have disputes with Denmark, Ireland, Iceland, Spain?
    Germany, Austria and the Swiss fighting it out?
    French and Italians?
    And on and on.

    That list is embarrasing. Look at Argentina there, only one land “dispute” out of five neighbors, and that dispute is virtually resolved.

    Advantage: Argentina

    Are all our regions and provinces 100% commited to union? YES

    UK (Scotland)? Spain (Basques, Catalonia)? France (Basques)? Italy (Liga Nord)? USA (multiple states)? Chile (South and Mapuche region)? Brazil (Rio Grande do Sul)? Mexico (Chiapas) ?Not exactly...

    Advantage: Argentina

    Are we tolerant to gays, lesbians, women, and religions? YES

    Sorry, Cestrian, you lose. No lies can deny the above. We are rather advanced, afterall. Oh boy, I had not realized this!

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @9 “Are all our regions and provinces 100% commited to union?” what about the mystical islands of malvinasland, are they also committed to union? On a scale of 0 to 10 how committed are they? What about Buenes Aires? Tolerance is blowing up the jewish synagogues? Chile and UK are your land disputes no? That's not one, that's two... and what about your fictional colony in Antarctica?

    “Advantage: Argentina” ... only in your head.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    The Falklands never belonged to us... so there was never any commitment to begin with.

    This reality check is brusing vast segments of egoes of the fauna on this board.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @11 that still doesn't explain the exploding synagogues and pushing brown folk under trains?

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    Lies can't be explained.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @13 we know. That's why you're having issues answering the questions I asked.

    Here's a couple of them for you to read here (source: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/argentina.html) here (source: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/argentina.html) and here for some wikipedia-fun (source: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/argentina.html)

    You cannot explain your lies, you are 100% correct there.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    1992?? You mean 20 years ago?? LOL!

    Of an attack which was orchestrated overseas and not by Argentines? X2LOL

    Which was partly caused by historical policies of countries like yours?? X4LOL

    So, a terrorist attack carried out by foreigners, 2 decades ago, and partly caused by US-European meddling in the middle east, is proof of Argentine racism. That's your entire argument.

    Congratulations. You are the winner of the “Utterly contrived, convoluted, anfractuous, non-sensical, and tin-foil conspiracy theories” world cup.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_Kingdom

    This is your other proof?

    Tengo vergüenza ajena. Too bad there is no accurate translation for this. But it's somthing like “I'm embarrased for you”.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Where's the punch line?

    Your description sounds like Denmark not some third world banana republic hitler youth league country such as Argentina.
    cestrian: IDIOT!!!

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I agree about the general tolerance towards gay people. It is estimated that about 1/3rd of tourists to BsAs are gay and it has become known as the gay-friendly capital of SoAm. (Not so once you move away from the capital).

    Misogyny is alive and thriving in Argentina and to deny it shows a distinct lack of experience of living in countries where it is not so overt. Argentine males have an unenviable reputation with regards to their attitudes to women. That is not just from Argentine woman but is well-known in other SoAm countries. Something that came up in conversation only last evening in a neighbouring country.

    I would also strongly suggest that whilst all capital cities are crime riddled and tourists tend to be easy targets, BsAs must be a trophy holder for attacks on tourists and the police doing absolutely nothing, unless offered some money. Maybe I should introduce tobias to some real Argentine citizens who can tell him about the reality of living in BsAs. I don't recognise the place he writes about.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rubino84

    @17 I can tell you the reallity of living in BA (I was born,raised and live in Parque Patricios) and totally agree with tobias, you Elanie are full of resentment you and the vast mayority here havent got a CLUE about Buenos aires or Argentina. It's really funny to see people talking about a place they never lived.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @6
    You need to get out of your Mums house more

    because we are tolerant to women
    Domestic Violence Deaths Rise 40% in Argentina
    http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=360379&CategoryId=14093

    because we have no guerrilas
    Disagreement over terrorist extradition could sour Chile/Argentine relations
    http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=360379&CategoryId=14093

    because we don't have narco cartels running lose
    Argentina a home for Mexican drug cartels
    http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=360379&CategoryId=14093

    because we are less racist
    Racial Discrimination in Argentina
    http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=360379&CategoryId=14093

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (15) Tobias

    I ”Think” that is what you were searching for…………..:

    ”Vergüenza Ajena : Also known as 'Spanish Shame'—sense of shame on behalf of another person, even though that person may not experience shame themselves…………
    Similar to the Dutch term “Plaatsvervangende schaamte” and the German term “Fremdschämen”….
    'Vicarious embarrassment', being vicariously embarrassed by someone else. ”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion_classification

    Poster number (7) ”The Cestrian” is a perfect specimen for “Vicarious Embarrassment”
    He writes, on that typical ethnocentric, haughty and ignorant Anglo style, about Danmark; a Country 350 miles from the British shore, he knows nothing about………..

    Let me tell you a couple of things about Denmark …..

    Its ”serious crime” rate has grown 1,500% in the last 30 years….. Yes, 1,500%............

    About 15% of the Danish population is on doctor’s prescribed chemical cocktail of anti depressants.

    Danish politics has been dominated the last 15 years by a xenophobic minority party that succeeded into creating the most restrictive immigration law in Europe.

    A pair of examples:
    1) Danes are NOT ALLOWED to marry a foreigner if any of them are under the age of 24.
    2) Muslims are NOT ALLOWED to build huge mosques. Not even small ones. They have to rent derelict industry buildings to worship their religion.
    3) They haven’t even got permission to have their own Muslim cemetery!

    Is that “Punch Line enough for you;……………… Cestrian Turnip?

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    It seems that Argentina is nothing like the place that Tobias described. That's the joy of Argentinians living on a bed of lies.

    Tobias: “Lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies”
    One: “do you ever tell the truth?”
    Tobias: “Lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies”
    One: “Typical Argentinian”

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    Speaking about Xenophobia and UN Human rights violating restrictive immigration ”laws”.........:

    A long term Chilean resident of Malvinas told me recently that:
    The FIG(leaf) has instituted a ”Quota” of max, 20 (twenty) persons per year who can get Permanent Resident Status.

    He didn’t know however, by which criteria those “20 Permanent Residencies” were distributed.

    Lottery…? Nepotism…? Color…? Race…? Religion…? A mix of all previous…?

    Any Kelper in here that could shed some light over this issue?

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @22 Their immigration policy is probably based upon the expansion of the services they have to offer (medical provision, etc). So I'm confused as to what this has to do with anything.

    I very much doubt it's a white first policy like they had in Argentina which specifically excluded any Jews from getting visas.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    @1,@4,@8,@10,@12,@14,@21,@23

    hey Stelyo

    your comments are good many synthetic,why ?
    please try to write by way of your spirit.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @24 What?? Can you not use google translate, because what you said makes no sense.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    @ 25 -- stelyo
    Important to note about the Maya Calendar is that it begins on 3114 BC and ends on December 2012,a time span over 5000 years accurately nothing past ,and predicted future celestial allignment covering a period of 26000 years called the Precession of Equinox.
    written correctly ?

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @26 Written correctly, but what is your point?

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    My thoughts on travel to Arg. It is beautiful and fun but it is MUCH more dangerous than NYC, Paris or London don't let stats fool you. I would think the crime stats in ARG are about as accurate as inflation. When was the last time you heard of an express kidnapping in USA? Plus I think the Police are part of the most of the crime corruption rules there.

    US tourism to ARG increased a lot after 2001, why, BECAUSE IT WAS CHEAP and exotic. After 20-30% inflation for 5-6 years it's not cheap any longer that is why yoy travel from USA is way down. It will be even less next year. Why go 13 hours away pay $1500+ for an airline ticket when you can go to EU in 5-6 hrs and pay $500? The USA tourists were replaced with Brazilians who spend 1/4 as much as we do. The hoteliers and restaurateurs were complaining about it to me last year.

    On women or blacks ( or any dark skinned people) ARG and BA in particular has to be the MOST prejudicial place I have ever traveled. Remember there are not many blacks in ARG, they killed most of them in the 1800s so they really don't have any. They are horrible to them, whether they are Bolivian, paraquyan or black (brazilian, USA or African) they won't serve them in restaurants, push them on the streets, not let them into dance clubs or bars. It is definitely the most racist place I have ever been. On women, one of my friends said if you are not sexually harassing your secretary people think there is something wrong with you!
    As prices drive everything higher, as people get more desperate, as it gets more dangerous tourism from EU USA will drop. They will be stuck with SAs spending as little as possible. 2011 was the first year they had a negative balance in travel revenue of almost U$ 1 BILLION. It will only be worse next year a RG have less and less spendable income to travel and tourism drops even more.. The trends don't bode well for the country.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @29 Do you want to tell Tobias that argentina is a dangerous misogynistic racist place or shall I?

    I personally feel he never lived in Argentina, or abandoned it and now creates fantasies about it.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    There are a lot of RGs that post that are either out right liars or have not lived there in many many years. I love when I post something am called a liar then a few days or weeks later it is confirmed by a major newspaper.
    Anyway, a while ago I told dumb Axel and Ogara Nat gas prices were going up 500% this winter but I was wrong they're going up MINIMUM 600% and not just for the “rich” areas ALMOST EVERYONE has to pay the new rates. Can you imagine paying 10-20% of your monthly salary to heat your home! Gonna get ugly by Sept.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @18 Full of resentment? You are projecting there. I do not resent that BsAs cashes in on the pink peso and is tolerant of gays; good for them.

    @29 My very first morning in Buenos Aires many years ago I was reading the newspaper and the first story was about the police catching a gang of thieves who preyed on tourists, snatching their handbags and making off on motor scooters (very Italian). The gang comprised of local policemen! The next article was about how women were not really designed to drive cars as they were unsuitable for the activity BUT they had to conceed that woman had less accidents.

    Many of my Argentine friends will confirm the harrassment claims. The men's attitudes towards women are really no better than other SoAm countries.

    For the first time in years I have heard people express real concerns about travel in Argentina because of all the aggressive talk from the Argentine government. Personally, I have not felt any less welcome. However, my friends there warned me that when the next monetary collapse comes I should stay away because they remember the rioting, looting and lawlessness the last time it happened.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @31 How ugly? I'm guessing they call in Le Camping to calm down people with some vote-buying with a secret stash of money printed in Brazil. Or it just turns to people ransacking stores.

    @32 I've heard the same from people living in more civilised countries, especially about the behaviour of the local men. Doesn't surprise me that these Argies are trying to say otherwise and paint their country to be a home of tolerance... because then these argies couldn't get down to some serious secretary harassing, brown people under train pushing and jew excluding.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • geo

    the Yoghurt is slimed when it soured...!!

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    32. Argentinians avoid the Police as much as possible. My friends told me you can't trust them and they take bribes like compliments, easily and graciously. That is why driving is lawless, there is really very little consequence to speeding or running red lights.
    It is also the reason why the restaurants, night clubs, retail stores, etc etc get away with dangerous/un-healthy conditions. They can pay the Police, gov't officials to look the other way. When they had the big fire in the nightclub about 10 yrs ago, emergency doors were chained, they used a flammable substance for insulation, they were running a day care in the bathroom and the capacity far superseded what was supposed to be allowed. The bribes were paid from the cop on the beat all the way to the highest parts of the gov't. But I think the only person who went to jail was the club promoter. Par for the Course.
    It will only get worse yoy.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @11 At last!!! I quote “The Falklands never belonged to us... ” Thank you for confirming what we Brits and Falklanders have been saying all along. This admission needs to be properly recorded. An argie has finally admitted that the Falkland Islands have NEVER belonged to argieland. If anyone is keeping an archive of significant statements, this needs to be in there! So, if the Falkland Islands have NEVER belonged to argieland, most if not all of the argie bloggers that get on here have just lost their reason for living. Hooray!!
    @22 Recognise this? “The Federal Government shall foster European immigration; and may not restrict, limit or burden with any tax whatsoever, the entry into the XXXXXXXXX territory of foreigners who arrive for the purpose of tilling the soil, improving industries, and introducing and teaching arts and sciences.” That's restrictive racial discrimination. Tell us which country has this.

    We can only hope that, as argies mislead themselves into thinking that they are “normal”, “economically secure”, “progressive”, “law-abiding”, “mature” and so forth, they will stumble blindly into oblivion. I think that I have mentioned before that the argie peso of the early 70s was worth around 10 million of the current argie peso. With argie inflation heading rapidly toward 25%, it cannot be long before another devaluation will be necessary. This must be a good thing for the rest of the world. How many will starve? Those in the cities will probably go first. Unable to afford unsubsidised fuel for heating. What will they barter with to obtain food? Given the “Latin” temperament, some will succumb to the food and fuel riots. Who will come to their aid? Only their “friends”. And how many “friends” do they have? Will the surrounding countries just be eyeing what they can grab? It must feel so nice to be on a par with Zimbabwe!

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    x 6 Billion US $ is small beer Argentina. UK tourism brings in x 115 Billion UK £ to us every year and yes this proves people really like to visit us.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @37 but consider what the UK does for Tourism in different parts of the world. Even your most skybox-addicted chav goes travelling these days, and by attracting the Chav pound you can have a significant effect on your regional economy, just look at Greece.

    Still doesn't answer the question of why Argies are actively trying to ruin their own tourist economy?

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Retroqqq

    Here are the World Tourism rankings:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

    United Kingdom 28.13 million
    Argentina 5.29 million

    please use the correct stats, stop the lies: 115 Billion UK £ lol???

    bad trolls bad.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    @ 39 Retoresq

    But Argentina and Britain-London(not UK) have different type of tourists.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    There are a lot of RGs that post that are either out right liars or have not lived there in many many years. I love when I post something am called a liar then a few days or weeks later it is confirmed by a major newspaper
    yankee: You are the dumbest of the bunch.You do not know even how to read charts...IDIOT

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Retroqqq

    @ 40 McClick

    what kind of tourists?

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    @ 42 Retoresq

    We shoul not see the City visitors as tourist.
    We should not see the footbal fans as tourist.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    So who do we believe? The 6 million tourists who voted with their feet, or yankeeboy and Greekyoghurt?

    LOL, clowns will be clowns. But racist, hateful clowns are the worst.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @44

    ...you just cant stop lying and making things up can you? the article says 5.7m tourists and by the time we get to post number 44 its grown by 300,000 tourists. Your maths is about as good as your governments grasp of your inflation figure.

    I'll be intrigued too see how much is brought in by tourism and how many tourists go to RG land by the time the talking stops on here.

    as for your question, yankeeboy and Mr yoghurt of course.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    The Cestrian, another racist.

    Like I said in another thread, no one believes a word of what is written in th commentary section in this website. We know that it only attracts extremists from the British side (and the Argie side too).

    How objective can extremists be? Go to Hamas.com and ask about Israel, or to Haredi Jews about Palestinians.

    Only a deranged man would not admit this website by its nature leads to a concentration of whacks ideologically speaking, and very insular, provincial types. Are you deranged Cestrian? lol

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Malvi, what charts am I mis-reading please show me?

    Toby, Aren't you posting here too? Does that mean you have a whacked ideology too? Care to tell me what is wrong with my prior post or is it just generally incorrect?

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    Looks like even the Argentines themselves believe that the game is nearly up for their Govt. the last paragraph is very revealing:

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/94988/garr%C3%A9-lies-to-cfk--macri-assures

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    Yes, it is incorrect.

    I'll tell you why it is incorrect. Because you use purposefully not only wildly over-exaggerate your assertions, but you attempt to say they only happen in Argentina.

    Let me tell you something: there are by far more food poisoning outbreaks in YOUR country than in Argentina. And please don't try the excuse “in the USA it is better reported”. Do you think food poisoning outbreaks and deaths would not be reported in Argentina?? They are just simply not that common, because our food supply is not as heavily industrialized as yours.

    Second, the police has issues in Argentina... do you think minorities in your country trust the police? They have absolutely no trust of the police. In fact, most White americans think a lot of policemen are out on power trips, and corrupt (they keep drug cash, engage in police brutality, try to hide misdoing).

    You mention a night club tragedy in Argentina some years ago, but conviniently forget that I think that SAME YEAR 100 PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN YOUR COUNTRY IN A NIGHT CLUB FIRE!!! Talk about hypocrisy!!! And that was also caused by gross violations in fire codes (from the establishment itself to the fireworks used).

    So who are you kidding? People come to Argentina by the millions, eat out at restaurants, cafes, etc, and don't get sick. People eat salads and drink the tap water (which they woudn't do anywhere else in Latin America).

    They go to nightclubs...

    Of course there are many issues. But the way all you extremists here (anti-argentine extremists), try to blow them up and single them out as just occurring in ARG is a source of plenty of laughs.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    I'm just laughing at Tobias. He's really lost it now and is calling everyone a racist. What makes it even funnier is he claims to be Argentinian, and everyone knows a key part of Argeninian culture is that it values racism deeply. Remember 'Argentina is White'!

    I still wouldn't get on Aerolingus Belgrano Malvinas Airlines plane. Don't think anyone sane would.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    Greekyoghurt, do you leave this website and thoughts of Argentina even for 20 minutes on an average day?

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @51 yes. It's my tea break... any kind of change is a rest and all that.

    Don't get sad. I'm not poor like you, because I don't speak Spanish.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    I think you were trying to troll. You're even slipping on that, your only talent.

    Man that's sad.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    I have many talents, thanks for asking. Trolling Argentinians is just one of them.

    Consider it sad if you like. I just consider it relaxing.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Toby, You can not compare the heath and safety standards of Argentina to the USA. I will agree for a South American country they are great, not as good as Chile but much better than Bolivia or Ecuador but what are you really saying? Have you ever been inside a Hospital or School in Argentina? Gross and Dangerous is an understatement!
    You are wrong most people in UK USA trust the police. In general we are not a corrupt cesspool like SA countries. Yes we have corruption but when it is caught people are punished, yes even rich connected people. Can you say the same?
    Police and gov't inspectors, we can not and do not as a matter of doing business bribe here. The consequences are severe if you get caught and more than likely if someone asked for a bribe you would turn them in to the authorities without consequences. That is ABSOLUTELY NOT HOW ARG works. It is a matter or course and doing business to bribe everyone there and to be afraid of gov't officials and police retribution. You must know this I only lived there a few years and saw it all the time. It is one of the reasons I moved back to the USA. I couldn't stand living in that kind of environment any longer.
    Food poisoning, where did that come from? I will admit Arg has better food in general than the USA but it is limited in choice. I can walk down the block and basically get any kind of fruit, veg meat, fish from anywhere in the world pretty cheaply. I can walk a few blocks and get Korean, Japanese, Mexican, Brazilian, Indian, Ghanese, Ethiopian, Italian, Eritirian, German, Peruvian, what do you have, grilled meat or pasta and it is almost the same exact menu in EVERY SINGLE restaurant. Bife de Chorizo ensalada mixta and/or esalada russia, ugh, I survived on that for 4 years sometime I would mic it up a bit and get chicken. I remember 1 day I wanted to get Lobster I went everywhere Recoleta, Puerto Madero, Retiro all over BA to the nicer restaurants and could not find lobster served in any one of them!

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @55 Let me show the difference between Argentinianian and US safety standards:

    USA Bus trip
    1. You get on bus; it's comfy.
    2. Bus drives along nice metaled road.
    3. You get off bus.

    Argentina Bus trip
    1. You get on bus; Nazi Youth 'Le Camping' beat you up in the station.
    2. Bus goes along unmetaled mountain path, and falls off the side because brakes don't work.
    3. Bus mafia-company pays mafia-police to ignore it.
    3. You have a funeral.

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    56. Speaking of bus travel in ARG; Recently the gov't sent inspectors to test for alcohol use of the bus drivers they found more than 50% were over the legal limit prior to leaving on their route!
    Another little problem isn't buses falling off the road but they have been hijacked where the thieves travel on the bus with others trailing in a car they pull a gun, get the bus to stop then take all the valuables of everyone on board.
    BTW I think bus tickets just went up 50% because they lost their gas subsidies of course they waited until after the vacation season but next year will be a problem for RG travelers.

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @49 Have you ever considered that you need to apply a coefficient before comparing a little cuntry like argieland with a population of just over 40 million and a big nation like the United States with a population of over 313 million.

    And please don't exaggerate. People go to argieland by the hundreds, not millions. And don't forget to mention that some of those “visitors” never get to leave. As witness that happy French tourist that got stabbed to death by the friendly argie thieves trying to steal his camera.

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    And please don't exaggerate. People go to argieland by the hundreds, not millions. And don't forget to mention that some of those “visitors” never get to leave. As witness that
    conqueror: you suck.The tourist go by millions.
    yankee: The charts I have provided and you told me to read properly.
    http://www.adefa.com.ar/v2/index.php
    Let see: 1+1=2
    2+2 = 4

    42+54= 96
    46+42=88
    Difference: 8??/
    This is the chart,and you do not know how to add properly....Donkey.

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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