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Rio do Janeiro celebrates Prince Harry’s visit to promote the UK
Samba dancers swathed in orange ostrich feathers welcomed Britain’s Prince Harry to a party on Rio de Janeiro’s Sugarloaf Mountain on Friday. And apparently the fancy footwork was contagious. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI bet there is a hint of jealousy here amongst the Argentinian readers to this story. There he is in Brasil to foster good political and economic relations.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How fabulous it is to have such an excellent ambassador for the UK.
Has Argentina got anyone who could be the equal to Harry?
Brazil is a nice country. I will go there on holiday.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina isn't a nice country. I will not go there on holiday.
I don't think I need to say any more on this issue.
Argentina are you watching!!! you could learn a lot from Brazil, but you wont because your bitterness has blinded you to all reason,to the world you a poisonous spiteful wretch to an imploding country who is tolerated but not embraced. Your only hope is your young generation who can shake your brainwashing resentment and work with its neighbours and not to threaten them.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The BRITISH Royal Family. An example to the world. Can you imagine the Obama grunt or the CFK screech getting a reaction like this? Chavez? I think not. Not unless they were celebrating his demise. And the difference between the BRITISH Royal Family and BRITAIN? There isn't one. The Royal Family and Britain rise to every challenge. And overcome!
Mar 10th, 2012 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 2 stelyo
Mar 10th, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do you hava any money to go far points,i heard Greece in crisis.?
Good News:
Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In Brazil claimed the Prince Harry to return the Malvinas islands to Argentina:
http://www.infobae.com/notas/636339-En-Brasil-reclamaron-al-principe-Harry-que-devuelva-las-islas-a-la-Argentina.html
we still waiting to Mercopress to cover all the news. Thank you brazilians brothers!
Such a refreshing contrast to Argentina’s whining, empty threats and general bitchiness. Just waiting for CFK to find a reason here to have one of her little tantrums. I wonder if Argentina will complain that Harry's visit is another scary 'act of aggression', like his brother flying a search and rescue helicopter.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil's current president Dilma Rousseff is chummy with Castro, Chavez and CFK, though Rousseff seems to be keeping relatively quiet, compared to Hugo Chavez and Castro. I've lived in Brazil, Brazilians generally don't like Argentina. Most Brazilians seemed to regard Argentines as arrogant and unfriendly. Of course that's just based on a perceived stereotype, but there is little sympathy for Argentina's expansionist ambitions amongst the Brazilian population.
@6 nitrogene
Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don't take these news in serious,Prince Harry is on the track of new borrowing sources..
@7 Aleksy
Did you work on super duty on about Foreign Relation Polling in Brazil.
I don't understand what the Russians could have opportunity in conflict between Brazil--Argentina..?
@7 It's interesting to see though. The Argentinians trying to turn everything into something to do with Argentina. Including a Royal Trip to Brazil, that has to have something to do with Argentina.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They're basically one big attention seeker.
#4 “The BRITISH Royal Family. An example to the world” :-)))))))
Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According to Buenos Aires daily “Página 12” on his return from town partying Prince Harry was in quite “bad condition” given his “uncontrolled consumption of alcohol”.
http://en.mercopress.com/2004/11/25/prince-harry-cuts-short-visit-to-argentina
When Harry Met Hitler
http://en.mercopress.com/2004/11/25/prince-harry-cuts-short-visit-to-argentina
@10 Better than having a thieving, ageing, plastic slag for a president!
Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps they could send Timerman in a Carmen Miranda-esque fruit hat to upstage us.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10
Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos your hatred of everything British is frankly disgusting. Our Prince goes to Argentina has a great time and yet you cant even say anything positive about your own country related to this. It has to be turned into something negative about Britain. You're just obsessed with us.
#13 Is not about hate, I don't, is about you don't like to be reminded that your Royals are not an example to the world as stated by #4.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos Alejandro
Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When Harry Met Hitler
how very silly and childish, Hitler is dead, unless you know something the rest of the world does not ???
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If Argentina thought that prince William was provocative in the Atlantic and aggressive to the point of conflict,
Then surely prince Harry, must be considered provocative, to the Atlantic, and as brazil welcomed him like a hero, when is Argentina going to attack brazil, for providing a provocative action , and opportunity to enter the Atlantic against their or without argentine consent,
[oh I forgot]
No one listens to CFK do they, and while the rest of the world enjoys the queens golden jubilee, Argentina will act like a spoilt child, and cry at the way side, well at least CFK and her supporters will, because the real argentine people will be watching it on TV .
Great Britain, [what a golden year this will be .
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Noone ask where this tale country's --Prime Minister--Defense Secretary--General Commander...why these exhibitionist Royal member Princes--Princess--Lords- Dukes--Duchess-- at the stage seen everywhere who are quasi living in fairy tale world..why ?
Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where are this sloppy country's authorized persons Ministers ?..Commanders..? even Intelligence employees...where are they ????????
@14
Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes that's right, pick on people who cant fight back like our royal family. As I said your cowardly and spiteful posts towards everything British is very sad.
Just as well we're not like this towards Argentina, but then that's us Brits - we're just too fair.
Yes the British sense of fair play,
Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0honest , polite , justice for all , proud , energetic , charming , kind , and always give to the needy, that’s why we are so loved by Argentina,
Well at least the normal ones, and the nice ones,
But CFK and her followers , are so full of envy,
[plenty of British application forms]
Single file please, ???
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/95016/uk-minister-argentinas-inflation-jobs-more-important-than-malvinas
Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some fair comments there. Lets be honest the RG's have got enough internal problems of their own without bothering about other sovereign nations territories.
I genuinely hope that the Argentine govt and the population of that country manage to work their way through the massive economic and social problems that they have in that country.
Its sad too see such a beautiful country torn by internal strife and indecision. I particularly feel for the many, many homeless and destitute people who are in dire need of some sort of assistance from CFK.
Argentina has never cared about “royals”. They are a European institution, Argentina has always bee the most anti-royalty nation in the Americas, ever since independence.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's not to say some of us don't appreciate the color and history of royal houses. And how they are part of the history of European countries, but why should we welcome any royals in our country? We are a republic, not a royalty. We don't bow down to them.
That's why Argentina is the only nation in the Spanish speaking world not affiliated to the Spanish Royal Academy of Language.
@ 20
Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bravo !
Of course, if the royalty is the head of state, we should welcome them with respect. But if they are not the head of state, they are just a private citizen (we don't recognize nobility titles), so if a royal comes, they should act like private citizens.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is what the Dutch Royals do, as do some of the Spanish royals when they vacation in Argentina.
@22 tobias (#) But this wasnt a vacation and he is on a diplomatic tour. AKA he's taking the role of a diplomat on......
Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, then whatever diplomatic protocols should be followed then for a diplomat of his rank (royal or not). I'm not opposed to that certainly.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I must admit I didn't know Prince Harry held a diplomati role.
@22
Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Of course, if the royalty is the head of state, we should welcome them with respect. But if they are not the head of state, they are just a private citizen (we don't recognize nobility titles), so if a royal comes, they should act like private citizens.“
Oh, but you do care, you care so very much. That's why you're all so upset about William Windsor flying search and rescue. It made you all so angry and then you cried ... boooo hooo boooo hoooo
”That is what the Dutch Royals do, as do some of the Spanish royals when they vacation in Argentina.”
Spanish royals can only go to Argentina because they're so poor. They have nowhere else to go on holiday, except for the bits of Africa they own.
track us,how we'll drive these dandies away from Scotland .
Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ tobias you should engage your brain before typing finger - if you Argies don't have anything to do with royalty why was your president sucking up to the King of Spain with reference to the YPF Repsol saga. Surely she should ignore him and speak to Rajoy the democratically elected leader of Spain.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 He is going to Chile 2 days before Cristina programmed visit (dated in january and suspended for her operation) goes there. And announced only 3 or 2 days before going. A lot of casuality and desesperation!!!! Besides dont care about Argentina; our problems, our government, its not your subject.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your princes are so ridiculous (although they may be good boys) but we have to recoignize they favorize more us than you. Thanks to them.
@28
Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malen, all of us peace loving Brits care deeply what goes on in Argentina as we care about what goes on in all third world banana republic dictatorships with hitler youth like groups.
we'd like too see you on here in the future and sincerely hope that you arent rounded up by the RG mafia and thrown out of a plane, oh sorry, wrong regime....
Cameron should have to find a better option to send Harry to brazil. It is not a great example( royal family) to show the world.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we dont need your care. we have learned to take care of ourselves with lots of exit.
Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you tell of nazis and dictators has been resolved. Get your way right, all has been judged, not assanitated like some others countries do.
@30 Why not? the countries hes been too on this tour so far have been excellent hosts and have warmed to him greatly,seems like a wonderful idea, Hes learning a future role very well. Both brothers have many of their mothers values towards others,thats never a bad thing.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@25 “Spanish royals can only go to Argentina because they're so poor. They have nowhere else to go on holiday, except for the bits of Africa they own” It sound so prejudice what you said about Spanish Royal family. You always look down to everybody. Why ? Are you really believe that you are superior than the rest of the world ?
Mar 11th, 2012 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Funny !
Mar 11th, 2012 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/argentines-mown-down-in-rio/
It´s very funny to see this ridiculous person. It is very difficult to know which of both brothers are more ridiculous. william was doing nonsense in the Malvinas Islands, and the other one was visiting Brasil. Clearly, it would be a better idea if both of them begin to learn working of something avoiding spending time and money without making any effort to earn it.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have noticed a generic difference between the Argie Malvinista posters and the Falkland/British posters here quite apart from the obvious one.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 07:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is that the Argies are all small minded ,crabby,negative and hateful to the world whereas the Falklands/British posters are big hearted ,open minded,goodwill to all men and women(apart from those that threaten us).
The difference between a gloomy doomladen Morrissey and a happy go lucky smiling Prince Harry. Who is more likely to win hearts and minds .
I shudder to think what would have happened to the Falkland Islanders if Mrs Thatcher had not sent the Task Force to kick the Argies out, Ethnic cleansing,flights to Montivideo ( with no doubt a few serious troublemakers dropped off in the River Plate for good measure).
Its payback time now and the Falklanders each becoming mega oil millionares is a good start.
That is that the Argies are all small minded ,crabby,negative and hateful to the world whereas the Falklands/British posters are big hearted ,open minded,goodwill to all men
Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0For the purpose of balance
Good news week !!!!!!!
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/95028/macri-blames-nacional-govt-for-motorway-roadblocks-
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/95028/macri-blames-nacional-govt-for-motorway-roadblocks-
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/95028/macri-blames-nacional-govt-for-motorway-roadblocks-
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/95028/macri-blames-nacional-govt-for-motorway-roadblocks-
Who gives a continental how Argentine *might* treat Prince Harry. He's not visiting Argentina, he's visiting Brazil and they don't seem to have any problem treating him like a royal. Brazil is the real economy in South America. Argentina is a has been. Once 4th largest, now just struggling regain a place in the top 20, which is unlikely anyway.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0#35
Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0“William doing nonsense in the Malvinas” - PLEASE USE ITS CORRECT TITLE, the FALKLANDS, IN FUTURE POSTS.!
A search and rescue helicopter pilot is a highly skilled job and William was not given the post because of any title he held.
The RAF can only employ people who make the grade, as he obviously can.
In the event of any emergency, he will be required to risk his life to save others.
Hardly nonsense.
As for Harry, he is carrying out official duties on behalf of the UK government.
His normal duties are learning to fly and fight in an Apache helicopter gunship
In his live firing exercises in the USA, it was reported that he came out top in his gunnery course. Hardly the definition of “no effort”
I think that any rational person would agree that they are both earning their money doing something useful for the UK.
Let's hope that neither of them have to demonstrate their skills to your government
Probably not the right thread in relation to the topic but as you're all here at the moment I thought you'd like a nice entertaining video to watch:
Mar 11th, 2012 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vys78sGB7Y
Trust me - it's an absolute corker - I can't stop giggling.
Bad Youtube.... it made her look unfugly..... but FAF.... bonzer etc
Mar 11th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whilst over the past three decades British have buid up a powerful military nuclear base in these islands to serve UK-US strategical interests in the region.Argentina has “”US brand money power “” democracy imposed upon it, as punishment for daring to recover the islands 1982.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0So,when the UK dispatched it's most potential destroyer,the 8000 ton the state of the art HMS dauntless and nuclear sub to the islands,it was probably prepared for Argentina's reaction.
A “powerful military nuclear base” in the falklands huh. Any evidence for that or did you just make it up?
Mar 11th, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@40 Although it's a good Youtube, you're going to struggle to get anyone from Argentina to watch it. They're rather cut out their own eyes.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0@43
Mar 11th, 2012 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don,t waste your time with @42 .He is a Robomoron as per johnfarrel2050. The Argies must have expanded their computer posting ;but you can still tell the difference between computer generated posts and human postings.
@ 43
Mar 11th, 2012 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0where are you living ? in the other world ?
London recently announced that it was dispatching the HMS Dauntless,a type 45 Destroyers Britain's most newest and advanced warship to these islands,as well as a Trafalgar class nuclear -powered submarine equipped with Tomahawk cruise missiles and Spearfish torpedoes.
British Destroyers and submarine will reinforce Typhoon warplanes of the sort used against Libya last year.,an air base with radar ,a patrol with frigate and a garrison of 1700 soldiers ,the latter almost the number of civilian of the inhabitants of these islands(F/M. I).
So how does all that make it a “nuclear base” then MrClick?
Mar 11th, 2012 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another one to amuse you in the meantime:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuHkBagrRAc&feature=related
McClick is truly barmy.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd like him to find one official government statement that shows where a UK submarine has been dispatched to Argentina - Newspaper suggestions do not constitute facts.
As for the Type 45, it has brilliant air defence but it doesn't have the offensive weapons onboard of the Type 23 it replaces. The Type 45's role is to turn an area into a 'no fly zone' should there be need to do so where as the Type 23 can fire anti-ship/surface missiles as well as its primary role (anti-submarine).
Also this nuclear base stuff is pure fantasy.......
@47 I don't think you're going to have any success. He doesn't really know where the silos are. He's just hoping that someone will blurt out how many silos there are on each island.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's good that he hasn't asked about the submarine bases. WE all know that the MoD never makes comments on the deployment of submarines. This is just argie prying. Why would the UK “despatch” submarines when they are already there? Once Mount Pleasant was built, it was no problem to tunnel down and create the submarine base with underwater access. I believe the nazis used to do it.
What a foolish idea to have to “despatch” a submarine that would take over 12 days to reach the Falklands. Far better to have them already there.
Wonder if the argies have figured out how much stuff comes ashore during the hours of darkness? And is routed through the submarine base so that nothing ever shows.
How surprised are they going to be if they try another invasion. Still, if they do, they'll be in an ideal position to watch stuff flying overhead on its way to the mainland.
@48 Just one correction. The Type 45 destroyer doesn't replace the Type 23 frigate. It replaces the Type 43 destroyer.
It replaces the Type 42 (not 43) in the Royal Navy but is replacing a Type 23 frigate that is patrolling the Falklands.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0McClick, if you had just done a modicum of research you'd soon realise that there is no need to dispatch a nuclear (is that nuclear powered or nuclear armed?) sub “to the islands”. Trident is effective across the length of Argentina from just south of the UK. UK subs don't even need to leave the North Atlantic to take out Ushuaia...
Mar 11th, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct 50, a 23' is on patrol at the moment.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Type 23 will eventually be replaced by the Type 26/27 multi-role frigates. The Type 23 is actually multi-role since it has excellent air defence/land-surface attack and its primary role ASW.
The Type 23 was designed to combat the cold war subs and has proven itself probably the most capable (or at least top 3) of the classes around the world in this role.
@52 Can a Type 23 take out Argies? Or is it like one of those Argentinian ships like ARA Guerrico which was little more than a floating tin can with a gun welded to the top?
Mar 11th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47,@48,@49,@50,@51,@52
Mar 11th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of the most outcomes of 1982 War was Britain's construction of the Royal Air Force base called Mount Pleasant established in 1985.It is completed with four Eurofighter Typhoon jets,transport aircrafts,helicopters,silos for large weapons storage,two runways capable of accomodating heavy aircrafts,and last year the Navy deployed attack submarine HMS sceptre to the area.Currently more than 2.500 Army,Navy,and RAF servicemen and personal stationed there.
Additionally in March 20 ,2010 ...150 troops from the 1st Battalion of the Yorkshire Regiment arrived at Mount Pleasant to begin training for deployment to Afghanistan to join the other 9.500 British troops stationed there as part of NATO's continious war.
It is reality that the raises questions as to extent the islands are being used or could be used for NATO purposes.the difference between British bases and Nato bases are -- subtlety--.
@53 - The Type 23 is one of the modern successes for the RN. The Type 23 is very good in all areas of warfare. The 23' was originally designed as a sub killer for the cold war scenario's but as the future panned out differently a huge amount of R&D was carried out to make the ship good against flying targets and surface targets.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A type 23 would easily destroy any maritime vessels Argentina has and it is also more than a match for any of its subs. This thing has been proven to be able to track Russian subs so an ancient Argentine sub shouldn't pose much of a threat to it although we all know sometimes things play out different during real combat on paper the Type 23 is the easy winner.
@ 51
Mar 11th, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BY THE WAY
in 2011 October ,the Mount Pleasant Base was also conducted a series of missile test that the Britain called “” routine “”..
@55 Hooray for ships that prevent KFC-peacefulness [overt agression].
Mar 11th, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@56 Routine missile tests are routine. If you don't test your missiles, then how do you know they're going to work when you need them to destroy belligerent Argentinian ships?
@56 - The UK can fire as many missiles as it likes in its own territory, that is its right and yes missile tests are entirely “”routine“” and performed many times a year by different military units in different locations. I'm actually unsure of the point you are trying to make here?
Mar 11th, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands defence is specifically designed to support rapid re-enforcement, heavy weaponry and other such items after the event in 82'.
I'm still yet to see of any evidence that supports your nuclear claims. There is most certainly not a nuclear base in the Falklands as you said earlier.
If you think logically about it, the UK can strike Argentina from the UK with weapons we know Argentina is defenseless to stop so why would it need to put them on the island?
@58 I think he's suggesting that Argentina should be the only country that's allowed to test missiles in the area, as a method of bullying the south american countries around it and some peaceful atlantic islands. [FYI atlantic islands are not in south america, arg-furktards]
Mar 11th, 2012 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's how their brains work. The bully always dislikes anything that can tame it's arse in a second.
@ 58
Mar 11th, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is certain that you can not install a military base with 2.500 troops to defend 2.500 inhabitants,it doesn't make sense ! then why?
@60 What is actually certain is the UK could drop 100,000 military personal on the islands to defend them should it wish to do so.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It makes perfect sense when you view this in context. Argentina has been acting incredibly aggressive and the islanders require protection so the UK is using a force it considers sufficient to deal with the threat.
Seems all rather simple to me.
Still are you ready to retract the 'nuclear bases' stuff yet?
@ 61
Mar 11th, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But the applicability of “” self determination “” for a population made up of the same colonizing force that seized the islands is tricky.
Census data revealed by Britain in 2006 that not only are military personel often included in the count of 2.500 civilians living on the islands,but that just 40 % of population has lived on the islands more than 10 years ,and only 42 % of the population was born on the islands.
It is impossible to claim the application of principle of “” self determination“” when in an analysis of the demographic of a period of 10 years between two censuses,it turns out that more than 57 % of the inhabitants over the age of 10 have been implanted.
“What is certain that you can not install a military base with 2.500 troops to defend 2.500 inhabitants...”
Mar 11th, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes we can, and we have.
@63
Mar 11th, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0go to my ---@62-- comment please.!
What you write in your comment #62 is simply nonsense. Self determination is a universal right and a key principle of the UN Charter (ratified by Argentina as well as the UK). Self determination has not been limited by the UN for the Falkland Islanders in any way. It applies fully, as it does to any other people. Every single UN Resolution covering the Falkland Islands references the UN Charter either directly or indirectly.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0McClick, you've gone from 'Nuclear base's' to randomly saying having military on the island affects its self determination (NO IT DOESN'T!).
Mar 11th, 2012 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Neither does the length of time some military personal have stayed on the islands.
That's some bizarre and ridiculous logic right there.
What is certain that you can not install a military base with 2.500 troops to defend 2.500 inhabitants
Mar 11th, 2012 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Care to explain?
Corbeta Uruguay base was an Argentine military outpost established in November 1976 on the island of Thule, Southern Thule, in the South Sandwich Islands. The base was established by order of the then-military junta governing Argentina as a way to back up its territorial claims on British territory in the South Atlantic. Britain discovered the base in December 1976 but sought a diplomatic solution to the issue until 1982.
Early in the Falklands Conflict, 32 special forces troops from Corbeta Uruguay were brought by the Argentine Navy ship Bahía Paraiso to South Georgia and landed at Leith Harbour on March 25, 1982.
@16 McClick (#)
Mar 11th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oi! Google Translate Boy! Do shut up, you are making an utter cock of yourself.
34 Lord Ton
Mar 11th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was brilliant, just have a slight concern about the veracity though as it was Argies we are on about here, let's not worry about that. :o)
40 Idlehands
Ha, Ha, Ha, etc. You WERE correct, I am still giggling as well. Did you notice the comments from the Argies? Nothing changes for them does it?
42 McClick
You are no Scot. I have been watching you illiterate posts for a while. Did they not teach you to capitalise letters at the start of a sentence and leave at least one space between sentences. You write like a LatAm, I should say you are an Argie - where are you living?
@ 65
Mar 11th, 2012 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 042 McClick
Mar 11th, 2012 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All people living in the UK would know the real truth, and those who do not, merely imaging things,
1, the British have no nuclear bases outside of Scotland, the exception being Plymouth, where nuclear subs are ?? where necessary, but being a Scots man, you knew this, but must of forget .
So, when the UK dispatched it's most potential destroyer, the 8000 ton the state of the art HMS dauntless and nuclear sub to the islands,
2, again you must of forgotten, the type 45 still in uk waters, as of ? and you are ware that the whereabouts of nuclear subs is a state secret, and no one knows where they are, and definitely not Argentina
, in 2011 October ,the Mount Pleasant Base was also conducted a series of missile test that the Britain called “” routine
3, yes routine, as you will find every single country in the world that has weapons, [tests] them periodically, does not Argentina test its weapons.
4, Argentina and brazil train militarily all the time, there is nothing wrong in this, just the same it is British business what British do in British territory is it not ,
We are no different that any other country on the planet,
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Scotsman? My furry fat arse!
Mar 11th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50 You are, of course, right.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54 I want to quote a couple of sentences from your comment and ask you to clarify your meaning.
“Currently more than 2.500 Army,Navy,and RAF servicemen and personal stationed there.”
“Additionally in March 20 ,2010 ...150 troops from the 1st Battalion of the Yorkshire Regiment arrived at Mount Pleasant to begin training for deployment to Afghanistan to join the other 9.500 British troops stationed there.”
How's your maths?
@56 Of course Mount Pleasant conducted missile firing exercises. We need to ensure that we can destroy any hostile (argie) vessels that get too close, dont we?
@60 Please see your comment @54 and my question above. And if we want to put 50,000 troops on OUR territory that is OUR business.
@62 You're talking drivel. The population of the Falklands at last census was 3,140. No British service personnel are included in the census.
@ 65
Mar 11th, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Control of the islands 8000 miles from the shores of UK and 300 miles coast of Argentina didn't rustle many international feathers until the 1950 s and 60 s ,when decolonization movements around the world gave impetus to milestone UN resolutions like 1514, passed in 1960 that granted independence to colonized countries and peoples.The General Assembly then passed the Resolution 2065 in 1965,which spesifically aknowledged the conflict over the islands and called upon both sides to “” proceed without delay“” in negotiations and to refrain from taking unilateral decisions or actions.The resolution goes on to say that “” was prompted by the cherished aim of bringing an end everywhere to colonialism in all of its forms,one of which covers the case of to these islands F/M. I.
It was the first eleven UN resoultions regarding conflict,eight of them issued after the war and the most passed in 2010 by the UN Special Committe on Decolonization.Each one restates the previous ,with the acknowledgement of a colonial situation and a request for a peaceful and
negotiated settlement of the dispute.As with many such resoultions,and despite Argentina's continued pleas for international law to be respected ,they have done little to change the present situation of islands.
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@67
You shoul wait the Argentina Government's revealing “” Rattenbach Report“” which contains on about Generals what did 30 years ago.
@74 McClick.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How about you learn about international law before posting any further.
The resolutions are non-binding which means the UK does not need to follow them should it wish not to do so, a non-binding resolution is a request not a demand.
So when you say international law needs to be respected - Your assertion is incorrect, the UK has RESPECTED international law and has not breached any law, regulation or anything else.
It is only Argentina that hasn't respected international laws and disobeyed the international courts of justice and binding UN resolutions.
@75 I'm not sure he knows what Non-binding or binding mean. He's argentinian, and they don't follow binding resolutions like UNSCR502, and they don't think the ICJ has jurisdiction over them. They also walked out of negotiations simply because they chose to negotiate militarily and lost the islands that way instead. Now they just want to cry and stamp their feet.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, whatever nonsense the C24 belches out, just ignore it. The whole thing is an anachronism.
Boo hoo argentinians have a good cry... booo hooo
@ 75
Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The conflict over these islands streches further back than and far beyond the war 1982 and involves and endless the UN list of Resolutions ( issued and ignored) soverignty claims bilateral talks and unilateral actions.
Britain succesfully colonized the islands in 1833, 26 years after two unseccesful attempts to occupy the capital of Buenos Aires.At the time tiny Gaucho population under the colonel Pinedo inhabited the islands.
The colonel was asked to remove the Argentine flag replace it for a British one and get lost.Without the numbers to mount any defense ,he obeyed the islands have been under British control ever since.
The Status Quo has been good to Britain.
@77 Which part of 'Argentina, not the UK, decided to negotiate militarily in 1982 and with that in mind lost the negotiations along with the war' do you not understand?
Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Choosing to negotiate militarily isn't covered by the peace-loving UN. I find it a very simple thing to understand, so why are you failing to understand it?
@ 78 stelyo
Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sorry try to explain somethings on the firigid part of the world rather than your South Cyprus where has two British Military bases and their actions what about.
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“” Two bald men fighting over a comp “” said writer Jorge Luis Borges
of the war between the UK and Argentina over these islands.
ANYWAY
Britain's Military Object is clear “” to maintain the military control over
maritime routes and control over the natural assets of the region that they prey on at will “”.
I'd give up GreekYoghurt, it is clear he does not understand the law or UN resolutions and I mean even the most basic understanding.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love how in the little world of Argentina time started in 1833 and everything before that no longer exists. Nevermind the fact the UK was there a long time before 1833.
Strange folk these Argentinians.
@79 Cyprus has nothing to do with this, try again. I think the exact saying was, “Two bald men fighting over a comb where one of the men was wearing an SS uniform and didn't ever own the comb.”
Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@80 They are indeed quite strange. It's as if someone got the complete lack of logic of the Spanish, the crazy ideology of the Nazi-Germans and the working methods of the Italian Mafia and put them all together into a one nation blender. Then later they realised they forgot to add the German ability to run a country economically.
It's just a complete furkshow on a national scale.
@ 80
Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK was there a long time before 1833 ..!
What was it doing there before 1833 ?
McClick - irrelevant question.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I realised I must of sounded rude but do you understand Argentina is the only one who has breached international law and rejected the highest court in the world? (the international court of justice).
Answer me that one question please.
@ 83 X
Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The pointlessness of the actual war overshadows the true conflict.Beyond nationalism and pride ,what is the real fuss over these cold islands ? Upon closer look at what control of these islands actually means for the British today-- between the sale of fishing licenses,oil exploitation,increased militarization,and access to Antarctica-- it turns out that the measly comb so many have mocked is made out of solid gold.
@84 You do realise the UK makes no money from these islands right?
Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All they do is cost the UK around 200 million a year to protect from Argentina, although that money is extraordinarily small with a defence budget of over 65 Billion.
Anyway, you've not answered my question, please answer it or I will ignore any of your other posts here.
Do you accept Argentina has broken UN resolutions and rejected the international courts of justice's rulings?
@ 85
Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your question is technically irrelevant becouse the wronged country is Argentina not Britain.
Annualy 200 millons £ ? that what a big money is certainly for military outlays.However the islanders have no need outher aids for the reason why they have fishing-squid licences brought in many millions £ per year from Poland--Japan--S.Korea.
Technically irrelevant because you decided Argentina is wronged?
Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YOU DO NOT GET TO CHOOSE WHEN LAW APPLIES OR DOES NOT, IT ALWAYS APPLIES.
Don't post about the UK not following (NON-BINDING RESOLUTIONS) when your country is unwilling to accept law if it doesn't suit it.
@ 87
Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's look at what the British had non- binding resolution
a sample ;
though there were joint scientific studies of fish stocks,the sales of licenses remained exclusively British,it unilaterally claimed maritime jurisdiction around the Sandwich--Georgia Islands,And while both countries set up a joint commission into oversea oil exploration in disputed waters,Britain continued its independent sale of numerous oil licenses.
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I am not Argentine.
Eh that has nothing to do with resolutions, you're getting crazy now.
Mar 11th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is quite clear you are not from a Western country and you're most certainly not British.
89 Xect
Mar 11th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0McClick fancies himself as a Scot. But I thik he is an Argie expat from Italy the way he 'writes'.
81 look the jews of Argentina, we are so nazisssss 310.000 live here (244.000 in Buenos Aires).
Mar 11th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.yoktime.com
@ 89
Mar 11th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe.... I am one of your neighbours.!
@75 McClick - “Status Quo has been good to Britain.”
Mar 11th, 2012 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So has Queen and my old favourite, Slade.
Do you think anyone is taking you seriously old chap ?? :)
@McCick 74. None of the resolutions you mention limits the Falkland Islanders' right to self determination. In fact they all reference it!
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0And I don't know of any UN resolution in 2010. The last UN resolution of any kind covering the Falkland Islands was in 1988. It also called for negotiations to settle the sovereignty dispute, as previous resolutions did. The following year, 1989, Argentina and the UK reached an agreement - commonly known as the “sovereignty umbrella”. Other agreements flowed from that. There has not been another UN resolution covering the Falklands since 1988, which is telling. The UK has fulfilled the request in the last resolution to negotiate a solution, and did in fact reach one with Argentina. That Argentina has chosen to withdraw from that agreement is a matter for Argentina.
He is a very funny clown visiting Brasil. The other pirate clown is his brother william. Nobody believe in them. Everybody knows that it would be better for them to begin working of something without spending time and money doing nonsense around the world. William must return to uk with his war vessel, nobody wants them, and less their visit to South America.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0@94 on a similar track, has there ever been an agreement that Argentina hasn't withdrawn from? or completely ignored for that matter (UNSCR 502)?
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27 Because the royal in question happens to be a head of state??? Therefore he has an official diplomatic role. If any “royal” has a diplomatic function then like I said above, then fine. Otherwise, no, we are not interested in special treatment for them. That's up to you in Europe.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0And like I said, it doesn't mean many don't think the whole institution is an interesting part of European nations and their culture. But certainly, not part of ours.
johnfarrel2050
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0why insult,
they have given the world a lot of things, they have helped the poor, what have argentina done,
envy is one thing, but envy with a grudge is rather childish,
McClick is using a translator to form his sentences in English. I don't know who he is tying to fool but he has only succeeded in fooling himself.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0If he is a Scot, I am the Queen of Venus.
I wonder why prince Harry is ass kissing in Brazil? The Brits have ignored this region for years and now prince Harry comes knocking!!
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0The South Americans are not as poor as they seem.Brazil has just overpassed The Uk as the seventh most Industrial nation.If this nations make a union (like Europe) they may well be the first or second in the list. The continent is on the move!!
@100 Ah, another argie discussing the parasitic nature of Argentina limpeting onto the successes of Brazil, like a docked tail unable to fall off. 'Brazil did this, therefore Argentina can do this.... LOGIC IS WRONG'
Mar 12th, 2012 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, a single south american union run by the Argentinian mafiosa no doubt. That would be truly amazing to see you bullying your unworkable political ideology and cyclical economic failures onto the rest of South America.
Well... The rest of Latin America reaches or approaches the level of development of Argentina, and they are called successes by many.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is called a failure by the same people.
That is actually either a complement to us, or an insult to them. They are in fact saying, if indirectly or even unconsciously, that they have much higher expectations of Argentina, and much lower ones for them.
I guess it would depend on which way that is digested.
@102 I think you got it completely the wrong way around. Chile is our measure of normality, and it's against Chile we measure success. Enjoy your argentina-time.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yet Chile in most measurements of living is at Argentina's level, in some better, in some worst, but in none clearly above. Everyone knows those are the two top ranked countries in Latin America in standard of living, with Uruguay just barely behind.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chile is a success yet it's nowhere far above Argentina. I understand that Chile used to be much poorer than Argentina, so that is recognized, but still the point is valid. Either not much was expected of Chile (and Brazil, Uruguay, etc), for them to be called successes when the population in these countries does not live appreciable better than in Argentina, or people expect a lot of Argentina.
Brazil now has a bigger and more important economy than uk. Brazil is clearly a more important country than uk. In addition Brasil is growing up very fast while uk economy is stagnat. uk is an old empire who has now only a little political and economical power. uk thinks that it can keep some of this little power, throught of maintaining the usurpation of the ridiculous colonies this country has around the world. In the same way, this country thinks that with this ridiculous travels, somebody may believe in the pirate prince william and the clown harry which have the worst image around the world. All the world knows about the life of both of them. It would be better, if they begin working of something. Somebody said that william and harry helped poor people, that obviously is very good and all are grateful for that, however, it is very easy to do it, with the money of the taxpayers. They never worked during their all life. They don´t know what is the meaning of the words “effort” and “work” to earn money. They only know the meaning of the word “privileges” to obtain what they want. To be generous It´s very good behavior but everybody knows that it´s very easy to do these nice actions with the money provided by others.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@105 what did argentina do for poor people recently?
Mar 12th, 2012 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@104 Chile has the Pacific where people like Chile. Argentina has the Atlantic where no one likes Argentina. Still, Chile seems a nice place to go on holiday.
Well, good for them.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chile is very well managed. Uruguay is extremely literate and democratically stable. Brazil has expanded farmland threefold and found massive oil wealth. It took those things to come together for these countries to come up to Argentina's development level (well, Brazil is still less developed, they have a very rich elite class but still massive poverty), even as we are poorly run, have not found any real wealth (unlike Chile with Copper and Brazil with oil), and have had shaky government transfers of power in the past.
What would happen if Argentina was well-managed, found massive wealth of some sort, and was extremely democratically stable if without those things we are already at the level of the “successes” of Latin America?
Argentina is growing up very fast. In 2011 Argentina had the second biggest percentage growth of the world behind China. Argentina has yet a huge potenciality of growing up in the next decades as the rest of Latin America.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is that growth is being led partly by steroid-consumerism, as people are not saving because the value of money is being eroded. So there are shopping malls being opened in every street corner these days, but it's a bit of a bubble unfortunately. The economy needs to grow based on long-term industrial production of sustainable and not government stimulated unsustainable fashion.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@107 'What would happen if Argentina ..... was extremely democratically stable ......'
Mar 12th, 2012 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would be a wondrous thing to behold.... but I am thinking of pigs and flying.
I truly would like to see a democratic and successful argentina but I think it will take a while... it took more than a generation to breed out the 'Empire' mindset of the english...... what chance of getting peronism out of the Argentines... only then can the country truly progress.. in my opinion. Read something once comparing Korea with few natural resources and Venezuala with oil coming out its ears.... seems the thing that made Korea more succesful than Venezuala was the nature of their education.....
Good to see you have chucked your thesaurus Tobias... you make more sense now.....
Industrial pruduction is growing up in Argentina. For example: the production of cars increase in a 900 % since 2002. In 2002 Argentina had manufactured around 100.000 cars while in 2011 in Argentina were manufactured almost 900.000 cars. Argentina is now in the ranking of the 20th countries with the highest production of cars in the world. You can find this example in a lot of industries.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0”(well, Brazil is still less developed, they have a very rich elite class but still massive poverty), ”
Mar 12th, 2012 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not true. I know for Argentines it hurts to see that Brazil has finally overtake them, actually long time ago. Facts are, Brazil is far more developed than Argentina and Chile combined. Brazil northern and north-eastern states have issues, though they are catching up with the central-west, south-east and souther states that are high developed compare to Argentina and Chile combined. Sao Paulo's state GPD alone is bigger than the the GDP of both Argentina and Chile combined. Brazil's GDP per capita is since 2010 the highest in latin america, it's middle class now the largest (and growing faster than ever in it's history) in latin america while the wealth of the so called Elite has also risen. Chile's economy, the first nation in latin america that got it's act and reduced poverty is for the biggest part based on copper, but Brazil is more than oil, what is just recently. It has the largest R&D and manufacturing base in latin america, One of largest minerals and agriculture based economy in the world (bigger than Argentina). Export of commodities counts less than 10% of it's GDP.
Conclusion, you have little or no knowledge of a nation who you want to compare with your Argentina that isn't the nation that you type about here for the Brits who dislike or hate it for their reason.
Jonny'myheadisintheclouds'farrel.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 07:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina did not have the 2nd largest growth either in your governments heads nor in reality.
All figures have been widely discredited by the IMF and all other international bodies and there's your inflation at over 25%
You need to take a course on basic economics.
Money is fleeing (i.e. investors believe the country is in melt down) the country, over 9 Billion in the first half of the year alone hence the reason CFK has put currency trading blocks in place.
But hey lets not let facts or reality get in the way of fantasy eh?
Look at John Farrel. I laughed out loud when I read “Argentina is growing very fast”. Is that the same Argentina which used to be the 4th largest economy in the world but now can't even make it into the top 20? OK, the UK has been overtaken by Brazil, and good luck to Brazil, but Argentina has not been overtaken, it has fallen down the ranks. If you compare like with like, Argentina is the real has-been in this little equation... hilairous.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@97 thank you tobias you have just proved you don't think!
Mar 12th, 2012 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0In December the Prince of Asturias attended the coronation of queen Christina as the representative of the Spanish king. On your point he should have been ignored. Harry's tour of the commonwealth was representing the queen as part of her 60th jubilee. He was therefore acting in the same capacity as Philip. I'm sure Philip was given the proper respect it's just you Argies try to find anything British and complain.
@108,111 “Argentina is growing up very fast. In 2011 Argentina had the second biggest percentage growth of the world behind China.” Here be propaganda. INDEC Figures are nonsense and do not reflect reality. End of.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@112 I concur. Chile has got its act together, Brazil still has some issues. Whereas Argentina is just belching out economic statistics lies as it sinks in the mire.
Oct 2 . 2009 when Lula Government enacted Decree No 6.952 which regulates the National Mobilization System dedicated to confronting “” foreign aggression“”.The decree defines “” foreign aggression“”as threats or injurious acts thatharm national soverignty,territorial integrity,the Brasilian people,or national institutions even they do not constitute an invasion of national territory.This act is also containing some Economic threats.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0McClick- not noticed you before but do get your facts correct before making yourself look silly!
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are some 1200 military personnel in total here and that includes the support staff.
Falklands Govt fully controls and receives 100% of all revenues from offshore Fishing -and would do so for Oil also if it is developed. UK does not.
UK does of course gain just know through 100% of the supply and support operations for the current offshore drilling operations - all because a Kirschener through out the Hydrocarbons Agreement!
Our civilain population - excluding the civilians living and working at the military base is just over 3000.
Submarines do patrol the S Atlantic at times - only a very few ever know where they are.
Forces numbers here have actually DECLINED in the last 20 years or so!
Missile tests! - Idiot - these happen every year since 1982 - they are short range rapier surface to air missiles with a maximum range of a couple of miles or so!! Not exactly threatening Arg or Shipping!
@ 118
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0You seem very nervous and uneasy. Why ?
@118 Not threatening unless the shipping is very very close, or the armed people are coming over the hill where the missiles are aimed.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0FidoDido:
Mar 12th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil's GDP per capita is since 2010 the highest in latin america, it's middle class now the largest (and growing faster than ever in it's history)
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Bullshit... Brazil's GDP is not the highest in Latin America. Depending on the measure, it may be ranked 3rd (nominal) or 7th (PPP) in GDP. Middle class the largest? for sure not in percentage of the own population, and that is what counts. You're making up such silly statistics based on the high reproduction rate of the brazilian population.
Because Brazil is just pure plain mass of population (almost 200 million), that's the reason why it generates so much GDP and little countries like Chile (17 million) and even Argentina (45 Million) will not catch up on national level, but that was supposed to happen sooner or later, sames as India has much more GDP than the Netherlands. That alone, does not make India a more developped or wealthier country than the Netherlands.
PPP per capita (IMF 2011):
51 Argentina 17,376 (though distorted, because based on official inflation data)
55 Chile 16,171
59 Uruguay 15,469
61 Mexico 15,121
66 Panama 13,595
71 Venezuela 12,407
74 Brazil 11,845
Nominal per capita (IMF 2011)
46 Uruguay 14,672
49 Chile 13,970
53 Brazil 12,917
60 Mexico 10,803
61 Argentina 10,640
You disappoint me, Fido... if you want to be a smart@ss, do your homework .
And don't get too much influenced by local patriotism... wasn't that your aspiration?
Can anyone imagine CFK getting a reception in Brazil the way Harry has?
Mar 12th, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Diana's sons have become an asset to the UK - it's a shame their dad is planning to become King George VII - he's just embarassing
@111 Are you sure of your figures? The International Organization of Motor Vehicle Manufacturers don't seem to have heard. Strangely, they seem to think that the 20th highest ranking automobile-producing country is Italy. And they don't mention argieland at all in the top 20. Actually, as far as cars are concerned, they don't seem to think argieland has made 600,000 yet. The UK, on the otherhand, produced 1,343,810. Or, to put it another way, more than twice as many as argieland!
Mar 12th, 2012 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@119 How would you be able to tell if someone was nervous? But you seem very nervy about our little base. Is it possible that you can envisage a carpet of argie metal across the seabed?
Rapier missiles are anti- air missiles. short range anti-air missiles. They are very good against aircraft that are coming in low, trying to avoid radar, just ask the Argentine veterans of the 1982 war how good they are, they will tell you..........
Mar 12th, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That will be by-the-by anyway, because at the end of the month, I'm sure you will all join me in saying “Bonne voyage” and “God bless” to HMS Dauntless as she begins her rountine.... and that is worth saying again, just in case anyone from Argentina is listening, her rountine deployment to the South Atlantic.
Isn't it an African Proverb that says you should “walk softly and carry a big stick”
@111, 123
Mar 12th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OICA are the recognised international vehicle industry organisation:
http://oica.net/category/production-statistics/
Read the data for yourselves.
Argentina, cars 577,233, commercials 251,538, total 828,771, change +15.7%
Brazil, cars 2,534,534, commercials 871,616, total 3,406,150, change +0.7%
UK, cars 1,343,810, commercials 120,189, total 1,463,999, change +5.1%
No doubt the Argentinian figures for commercials will incorporate the small UTE and van models which the UK, by and large does not manufacture as the market is more mature and sophisticated (aka not so poor).
Argentina is growing up very fast. In 2011 Argentina had the second biggest percentage growth of the world behind China
Mar 12th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If this is so true,
Then why does Argentina bother with a tiny island that is a fraction of her size and wealth,
Or is it the OIL.
mmm
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@126 It's not so true. Those stats came from INDEC which is a company wired to the preserved head of Goebbels... belching out nonsense that no one believes.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...except for Argentinians (but they're not very bright)
With reference to 91 malen,there are indeeed a lot of jews in Argentina,but there is also a lot of anti-semitism ,recently in the Nacion newspaper appeared an article over the bad treatment of jewish argentine soldiers during the 1982 war.
Mar 13th, 2012 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@128 Kind of ironic that the argies were getting training, intelligence and weapons from Israel then.
Mar 13th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 091 malen (
Mar 13th, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0look the Jews of Argentina, we are so nazisssss
A very shameful admission is that not.
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@130 You're not wrong. Peronism is based on the ideologies of Hitler and Mussolini, combining Authoritarianism, Nationalism and Socialism. These three make the definition of Nazi.
Mar 13th, 2012 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So yes, they are Nazis of a type.
Jews / Nazi's held together under Peronism??
Mar 14th, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0No wonder the country is f**k up, wow, I just throught it was being out too long in the sun that sent them all a bit mad... I didn't realise that all that other stuff stacked against them as well........
oh well...ho hum....
read well bruton.......this country is not nazi or anti semitist.........all religions you can find, and are accepted, people mix and are integrated
Mar 14th, 2012 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we dont have problems with religions, there are all kind here.
Peronism is and was a popular movement, of the workers.
@133 You're clearly using a freudian denial structure there to remove any knowledge of bombings of synagogues, removal of visas and travel rights from jewish-argentinians, et cetera.
Mar 14th, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very interesting how you do it. You create some utopia in your head, project that onto Mar Mierda creating 'Argentina' and then you use denial to manipulate your thoughts into there being no racism in Argentina.
Peronism is crypto-nazism. FACT.
meanwhile back on topic, a very nice visit, and a very nice host,
Mar 14th, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very nice people, and all very close,
the relatioship looks fine to me,
and that little itch next door, wasnt given a 2nd glance, or interest
Would be great if prince Harry could find an prominent argentinian wife (i know that would be hard unless he is into hairy breasts)! then see how quick KFC invites him to dinner!
Mar 15th, 2012 - 05:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mad psychotic bitch is the best term for Cristina Fernández de Kirchner the current disaster president of Argentina!
Mar 15th, 2012 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Others around Cristina Kirchner that are also crooks are her vice-president, Amado Boudou, he is actually an owner of the company that prints money for the government in Argentina, a major conflict of interest, but he denies it, he owns the company in the names of other friends and associates. He is being investigated and surely will end up in jail where he belongs. Cristinas 2 VERY UGLY children, Maximo and Florencia Kirchner, are also very corrupt. Maximo owns all kinds of hotels and properties adn Florencia is a film student in New York and lives in a luxury Park Avenue apartment and is known for major cocaine use. Some of us who know her in New York remember how she always used to tell us how her parents have a bank account drawn on the Nation of Argentina and for her family money is no object. These 2 corrupt children of Cristina Kirchner are self proclaimed “militants”, they belong to 2 internal terrorist groups which Cristina Kirchner finances, “La Cámpora” and “Quebracho”. “La Cámpora” goes around to the poor shantytowns around the cities in Argentina and gives the poor people a bag of groceries, a sausage sandwich called “choripan” and $20 pesos to buy their votes. These people have no choice but to accept this as they are extremely poor and have no other hope. “Quebracho” is a terrorist group which Cristina Kirchner pays to protect her, they disguise their faces and go around shaking down businesses to get money and give back to the president. They are also responsible for drug dealing, robberies and murders.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
They all hate us! Argentine has enlisted the whole of South America to defeat us. Oh, I guess they are wrong, the whole of South America isn't against us! Just Argentina! Sad bastards.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 015 briton
Mar 16th, 2012 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well one theory is Hitler escaped to Argentina on one of the three U-boats that turned up there in August 1945, 3 months after the end of the war! Of course he'd be long dead by now but his children wouldn't. CFK looks a lot like him. What do we know about her parentage?
@139 is it her moustache?
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0140 GreekYoghurt
Mar 16th, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Could be, but I suspect it's the unguarded moment when we saw the out-of-control CFK over the missing billions for the FatBoys airline.
Very Hitleresk: the big eyes, the dropped mouth, the clear mad streak, etc.
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