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Falklands tells Argentina latest intimidation and bullying efforts are entirely counter-productive
The elected government of the Falkland Islands said on Friday it regrets the latest attempt by the Argentine government to economically undermine the Islanders way of life, which is yet another example of intimidation and bullying towards a country of 3.000 people. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesA brilliant response.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not one word mentioning the UK, which is entirely right. The FIG are pulling off a left field move by making this look as though a community of 3k is being bullied by a nation of 40m plus.
Great effort by Roger.
Go MLAs of the Falkland Islands!
Mar 16th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't take no shit from nobody.
I just said that ...
Mar 16th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0there could be manipulation here from the Magellan Strait Russian Bases.....!
Where's the big declaration from KFC ? How much nothing is she going to tell us this time?
Mar 16th, 2012 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle
I just say here .............
Mar 16th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British had introduced Resolution 502 at the UN security council calling for Argentine withdrawal from the islands while Russia and China abstaining.............
Russian ships and and aircraft nonitored the British Task Force as it sailed south ( as they do today) However The Russians evidently collected intelligence for their own use ( !!!!!!) and did not share with Argentina.............
But the Russians offered arms ,in return it expected support in the UN on such issues as US withdrawals from Central America ,a price is considered “” too high “” by the Argentines.The only Russian equipment Argentina received during the crises was a scrambler for the Argentine Foreign Minister while in US.
Toward the end the Russian had an unintended influance on American actions. when the crisis term ( !!!!!!)
Today ???..........who knows ....!!
Roger Edwards ......!
Mar 16th, 2012 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You understand what I mean ....????
Argies must die! Animals must not be allowed to win. Courage, British courage will always succeed. God bless every British service man or woman!
Mar 16th, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 7 Conqueror (#)
Mar 16th, 2012 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please tell me you are having a laugh. Do you say this rubbish out loud to yourself before you type it up? It is meant to be tongue in cheel isn't it?
I only say it because it is worthy of a rabid malvinista and I don't think it is very helpful.
Don't get me wrong, the FIG need to speak out like this and they need to know the UK will support them every step of the way but this:
“Argies must die! Animals must not be allowed to win. Courage, British courage will always succeed. God bless every British service man or woman!”
No, sorry. I can't take that seriously. No offence meant.
The situation is approaching a phase where armed conflict could arise.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good response from Roger in complete contrast to Herr von Timidtwit and his poor grasp of history and reality. Perhaps the MLAs should pass a law saying they will take action against anybody drilling in Argentine waters. After all, under the established principle of territorial integrity, the Falklands were British long before Patagonia was Argentine, ergo Patagonia belongs to the Falklands, and any drilling offshore southern Argentina is not correctly licensed by the Falkland Islands Government and therefore must be illegal... right?
Mar 16th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a result of Argentina raising the profile of this issue, this response will now be reported in many parts of the world, along with Argentina’s actions.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have got to hand it to the Mighty Tinman, he has given the Islanders a platform from which to put their case they could not otherwise have hoped for.
The only Argentine attempt is to make the UK accept negotiations.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There´s no right to self-determination.
The resources are argentine.
Argentine ligislation applies to the entire argentine territory, including Malvinas.
The actions are not towards islanders but towards the UK government.
@12
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you wont be getting any negotiations with the UK government.
forget it, there is nothing to negotiate.
** 5
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As i said at “”“ Quick reply......”” article ,
The regional system is fully under control by Russians.
No one can step despite of Russians.
@ 12
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell me seriously, if Argentina ever got to any kind of negotiating stage exactly how would you expect the negotiations to proceed?
It would be only right, if the Falklands Government took their complaint to a higher level and made an official complaint to the UN or took this matter to the ICJ, as these aggressors have in my view, been allowed to over step the mark on too many occasions. Maybe instead of the Mafioso Regime thinking of as many ways possible, illegaly or immorally to affect the 3000 lives of the F.I civilians, they could do with a few problems of their own to chew over.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pardon !!
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As i said at “” Self Determination is the right......“”article /No :143
Yes you also keep gibbering on about the Russians. Start talking sense and people will listen to you.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argies must die! Animals must not be allowed to win. Courage, British courage will always succeed. God bless every British service man or woman
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH!!
To the idiots pro brits: MALVINAS ARGENTINAS! Down with the brits pirates!
( 17 ) Geo
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right !
In the UK,there is strong sense of (historic) Russian aggression and authoritarian state power.
Permanently bad relationship ? ...not at all ...!
Perhaps the least well knowns are for example ..officer resetlements,
some ship visits,....projects to dismantle decommissioned nuclear submarines...( Putin's visit to UK was the UK led mission to raise the submersible the AS-28 and rescue it's crew in August 2005...........
@ 19 Malvinero1 (#)
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Steady on, you'll have somebody's eye out with all those capital letters.
@19
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL - its a bit early to be pissed!
( 21) Furry
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0# 5 tells us everything that
the Argentina is not “” big player“”.......................
if they were agreed the Russian's offer ,today the situation would be different.
It really is an absolute disgrace that Argentina continues to intimidate the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) in this, or any other manner.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose that the Mad Bitch herself is behind this nonsense, for that is what it is, and that it will continue until she and the rest of her viperous brood are deposed or eliminated.
Rather than an armed conflict against the Islands I am still hopeful that a military coup can take place within Argentina. There are some countries that simply cannot make democracy work and Argentina appears to be one of them. There are just too many of her people, at all levels, who want a piece of her for themselves and see it as their right to do so.
I am aware that the military has been decimated, largely by CFK. However, how many dedicated people would it take to overcome this bunch of wannabee gangsters? It seems the Policia have their own corrupt officers and it has to be asked if they would attempt to take on an armed force. The reality I suspect is no, particularly if tanks were involved (they list 257).
It would only take a fraction of the 2012 listed figure of 100,000 ACTIVE military to take charge of the country. Just a tenth of that number could easily overcome B.A. AS LONG AS THEY TACKLED THE PROBLEM REMORSELESSLY.
Let us all hope that this indeed does come to pass. It will bring havoc to Argentina for a while, but it would be many years before another war with the Falklands could even be considered. By then, with the revenue from the oil, the Islands would be insurmountable both in hardware and the vested interests of the world at large to offer her their protection.
@ 23 MistyThink (#)
Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina had not invaded in 1982 the situation would be different. Maybe all this really did happen in an alternative reality but in this one.
Ifs and buts and 'what might have beens' do not add anything constructive to any argument.
@24
Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed.
The solution to this appears to be for the UK perhaps to destabalise the country and find a credible opposition to this vile regime or economically work behind the scenes to bankrupt it and hopefully provoke civil unrest.
I'm sure that the UK can set such wheels in motion.
I also think that the FI should go to the UN and press their case for independence and invite the UK to provide for its defence, similar to Belize.
26. CFK is destabilizing Argentina enough without any foreign intervention. It is like Venezuela everyone is just waiting for it to collapse why bother trying to speed it up? Let them both topple they'll both be as irrelevant as Bolivia and Paraguay in 5 years anyway.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...although recent moves to reverse subsidies suggests that the government is beginning to realize the seriousness of the country's economic plight. One can only hope that this realization has not come too late.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/03/14/argentinas_dubious_boom?page=0,0
@24 Agreed. It is totally disgraceful how Argentina are treating the Falkland Islanders, who have done nothing wrong. The world is only just starting to take notice.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know a lot of posters have listed similarities between the current Argentinian regime and the German Nazi party in the late 30s.
The really worrying thing is, that the rest of South America don't realise how extreme the Argentine Govt is, they seem to believe the lies and propaganda coming from Argentina. I would guess that most of South America don't even realise the Falkland Islands are self sufficient and has its own Govt?
@ 29 Steve-32-uk (#)
Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think that they do at all. I think that Latam know exactly how poisonous the current Argentinian administration is but they are as nervous as hell. They are appeasing her.
28. Great FP article I think they wrote a lot of that based on my posts here!
Mar 16th, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30 I hope your right.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can any neutrals, especially South Americans give us your thoughts and opinions on the Argentinian Govt?
Appeasing does not work, never has, and never will,
Mar 16th, 2012 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She could possibly bring the whole of South America to its knees,
And all because of her mad stalking obsession with the Falklands.
And like some of you have said, her friends either believe her deluded ness, or are scared of her, but Brazil perhaps should know better, or at the very least, pull her back.
But if Argentina gets banned from the London Olympics, then Argentineans can blame CFK .
It's been a great week folks. I don't have the imagination to conceive how comical the next plum news story will be.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We can only put on our tinfoil hats and wait with baited breath.
http://www.clarin.com/ciudades/capital_federal/Vecinos-Villa-vuelven-autopista-Illia_0_664733701.html
Mar 16th, 2012 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take a look at what is happening on a daily basis in Buenos Aires and the union protests haven't even started yet but should be happening any day now.
@35
Mar 17th, 2012 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its started:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/231832.html
Roger
Mar 17th, 2012 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Without being in the least jingoistic, there are a lot of people in the mainland UK who agree with your dignified and correct stance with respect to your nearest neighbour - bullying never pays
The next few weeks will be tough with the various anniversaries but, hopefully, the Falkland Islanders will be left alone to get on with their lives and live in peace
She failed then !
Mar 17th, 2012 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/argentina-fails-to-stop-flights-between-chile-and-the-falklands/
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/95542/boudou-vows-to-fight-‘cultural-and-economic-colonialism’
Mar 17th, 2012 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is this the start of something sinister in The Argentine Government aimed at both their people and the Falklands resources??
Does not look promising!
36. I Wonder what ever happened to stupid Axel, idiotic Ogara and the “holier than thou” Think who all said this was an economic miracle, the Ks are brilliant. this transformation was long lasting, everyone's salaries will keep going up and up, we will all be rich. Even though I pointed out time and again nothing has changed and it will be worse next year.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really do love saying I told you so....chuckle chuckle
There is no government in Malvinas, only colonial pirates who have great big hand of Britain in their backsides.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0They must be removed from these islands, which belong to Argentina even before Argentina exist, it was taken from them. This and also by grace of God and Papal Bull of 1496!
In 1982 we have a much more macho government than today, we had a man in charge and no ordinary man, he was a General, from Italy, same country my grandparents came from, fleeing from British and American Imperialists after WW2 (it would take several generations and Berlusconi to put right what they did to Italy).
General Galtieri did not take no for an answer, he sent a great military force with special forces under command of our counter terrorist officers like Captain Alfredo Astiz, who is now in prison and should be freed!
These were the men who removed 50,000 left wing terrorists from our streets and delivered them into the Atlantic. We are proud that they had the guts to do what was necessary.
But today I listen to the BBC and it seems there are more left wing in our nation. I am in The Bahamas at the moment working in hotel so out of touch with my country. It seems all the strong people leave and only weak left remain.
But still there are veterans prepared to attack the police for medals for Malvinas War as they protected Patagonia from a British invasion, they deserve these medals, Police should not keep them from them.
Pirates and Anglos i hate all of you. Even here in the Bahama, have to put up with your Royal family, Prince Harry and the descendants of your Caribbean pirates some of which now Mullatos but others prefer stay white. I myself do not like. Or the children of British colonial pirates!
GO HOME BEFORE WE SEND YOU TO YOUR HOMES>
@41 You sound like a right barrel of laughs.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0stating you are in bahama its a bit of a give away to the fact you are not. GO TROLL ELSEWHERE TOY SOLDIER!
The Argentine Vice President said that Argentina “is undergoing a process of transition from a tutelary democracy to a full independence of the popular will”.
What the hell does that mean, is it open to interpretation?
42 PirateLove
Mar 17th, 2012 - 02:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0It means we will be free of Imperialist, we will be free to take what is rightfully ours the Malvinas, South Georgia, South Samwhich Islands, Antartica, etc. We will be free of Imperialist yoke. But first must remove you piates.
Do not tell me where I live. I am in Nassau, Bahamas. I will return to Argentina soon and I hope to enter parliament and one day be like Isabella Peron.
Go fuck yourself Bicho
@43 Filippo
Mar 17th, 2012 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0You will never be free! Whatever you do, or wherever you go.
How is life in the former British colony, compared to the former Spanish one you intend to return to and rule?
really is an absolute disgrace that Argentina continues to intimidate the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) in this, or any other manner
Mar 17th, 2012 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well cris,I have bad news for you.MAlvinas exist.Just look at the map
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&tab=nl
You do not like it...welll too bad.The Argentines were before the brits,and we are going to get MAlvinas,one way or the other.
Do not waste time convincing 98% of Argentines.....We told uk in 1833,we never acceppted the usurpation of our islands....IT IS ALL uk FAULT!!
Do not like it?? Welll, I do not give a DAMN!.uk still is at 14000 km, and we are closer than 500 km.We have the distance advantage....Argentina NEVER IT IS GOING TO RELINQUISH THE CLAIM! NEVER!!
@ 41 Im kinda curious as to your logic so please help me understand your position. Im reading all this from the states (U.S) and your claiming the Falklands are ya'lls because of “They must be removed from these islands, which belong to Argentina even before Argentina exist, it was taken from them. This and also by grace of God and Papal Bull of 1496!” and you say they are a bunch of pirates.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 05:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0But what about the native americans that actually lived in present day Argentina, they actually lived their as their homeland for thousands of years but no mention of THEIR rights?
How can you say you say with a straight face a Island hundreds of miles from your country is yours when it had no native population in the first place and you lost a war to retake it in modern times.... you LOST the war. By your logic most nations of the earth would have to give up most of their lands to various peoples that preceded them. Who has more of a claim to a Island that had nobody native population, a country born from another country that briefly had a small colony on it almost 200 years ago or a small colony that has called it home for almost 200 years. And please dont bring up what some pope or whatever happened hundreds of years ago, nobody in modern times really cares about that stuff. If ya'll had any brains at all you would realize your not getting the Islands back and you would change your tone and engage in talks with the Falklands Government. Recognize the Falklands right to exsist and rigthts to self rule and settle for a share of the oil and fishing profits or go on rattling a sabers that has no real teeth and keep looking more and more foolish to the world.
@45
Mar 17th, 2012 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0What do you mean by, “one way or the other?” You already tried the, “other” and look what happened then. Sounds to me that the FI's are right to be concerned about your peaceful intentions. Language like that doesn't help your case, not that one exists anyway.
41 Flippo
Mar 17th, 2012 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where have you been? Did they let you out again did they?
So now you're saying the islands are Argentine by the grace of God and by Papal Bull. LOL! Two things that don't exist should be really helpful evidence for you. Shall we call God to take to the stand on oath? Get real. Also, what the hell is a Papal Bull? Is it like the UK's famous dog Lassie? Lassie, by the way, said the islands belong to the UK.
Doesn't sound like the great force that you Spic general sent in 1982 was THAT great. Chuckle chuckle. Anyway, good news for fans of the military action (that's be most of Argentina I reckon): it sounds like your military are weighing up their options to throw KFC and her crooked cronies out.
Damn Flippo! I was in the Bahams just the other day. If only I knew. We could have met up for a dark and stormy and some conch fritters. I hope you're not like some of the foreign hotel staff in a lot of cheaper Bahamas / Caribbean islands who bend their guest's ear about their own home country's national problems. Just what a hotel guest paying big bucks wants to hear, sitting by the pool. What hotel do you work at Flippo?
Bye for now and remember to keep taking your mess. They'll keep the edge off it for you.
Chuckle chuckle.
@reality check
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“one way or the other”
This means if UK will not give up the islands by diplomatic and pacific means, Argentina will resort to a new bloody war.
49 Dany Berger
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Surprise surprise!
Either way you will still lose.
Chuckle chuckle.
Will you be in the front line Dany. Or will you be cheer leading from the safety of your keyboard?
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 051 Furry-Fat-Feck
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I doubt Dany boy wants the islands that badly. Like most Mavlvinistas, getting the islands would have no tangible effect on their lives. That's why they have trouble understanding us. We would lose everything.
@49
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I disagree. Not even they would be stupid enough to risk another defeat, which they would surely suffer. Our capabilities are much better than they were in 1982. Any fight would be taken to them, their airbases would be the a top priority, much better to take out their only effective forces on the ground, before it could do any damage to us. Make no mistake, the thought of them looking out their windows and seeing what a war really looks like, close up and dirty, is enouigh to put them off. Make no mistake, if they start a fight again, it will be taken straight back to them.
And this is what I think the Latam policy is in general. Argentina is a liability to them. One rabid malvinista living in the Bahamas said that they would get the 'Malvinas, south shetlands, south sandwich, antarctica etc' and it was the 'etc' that interests me.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina wasn't obsessing about FI they would be obsessing about all of their other territorial claims like the whole of the River Plate basin, large parts of Southern Brazil, the whole of Chile then, who knows. The whole of South America and then, in time, the world.
All those nazis who escaped there after WW2 really did leave a mark on the place.
I think Latam is hoping that Argentina will do something really, and I mean really stupid so that the British are forced to kick the shit out of them again. This would set back Argentine expansionist policy giving them time to move forward into a position where they feel less threatened.
All the UK needs is for everybody else to stay out of it, Chavez can fill his boots we can handle him and KFC simultaneously without too much effort.
As in 1982 Argentina is reading this all wrong. They are natural bullies and when bullies think their targets are weak, they strike out. And just like bullies, when they get smacked back down they cry foul. Then they cheat and scheme and whinge until one day they think their target is weak again and the cycle repeats itself.
There is method to the madness. Sooner or later statistically speaking the UK will become too weak to support the FI. But statistics are fickle little feckers and even if it were true, by that time the FI might be powerful enought to defend herself from all comers.
54 Furry
Mar 17th, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0You could be right. You can see all the other SA countries saying “we're right behind you Cristina. Stick it right up those Brits”
Chuckle chuckle
Good article...
Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505146_162-57399177/offshore-oil-is-a-game-changer-for-falkland-islands/
@reality check & co
Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have no idea about what you say, and attack over Argentina main land will lead to full scale war you will need at least 500.000 ground soldier to have any initial success plus all your toys you can borrow from US,etc.
Once in the ground you will have to face an army of 550.000 including reservist + 150.000 para military troops. And civilians will shoot UK troops in their head from all sides like in Iraq and Afghanistan. Arg. civilians itself can be a scary combative force as civilians hold more than 3millions weapons.
As you can see you don’t have any chance to succeed so UK knows that and the consequences of such stupid thing and future retaliation on Britain soil.
So any war with Argentina will be limited to Island’s war exclusion zone, what would be the polygon for weapon shooting of all kind and from all sides.
The only ones that are going to see war from their windows would be the Islanders like in 1982.
And if you have any consideration for the islanders I suggest you to write to stupid Cameron to get involved to any kind of talk over the issue until this goes further that none can avoid a new war like in 1982.
38
Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like Pinera gave Turkey Neck some 1950's curtains as a gift and she decided to wear them. He should have given her a brown paper bag, much more fitting
49
The Falkland Islands are in the South Atlantic not the Pacific you cupid stunt.
@ 14 Geo
Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with you !
US's hegemonic border line limit is just on their Colombia ,Venezuela
southern borders ,not below of them.
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@ 54 Furry
The conflict over these frigid islands stretches further back than and far beyond the war in 1982 and involves and endless list of UN Resolutions ( issued or ignored)soverignity claims,bilateral talks and unilateral actions.
It was the first eleven UN Resolutions regarding the conflict ,eight of them issued after the war and the most resent passed in 2010 by the UN Special Committee of Decolonization.Each one restate the previous with the acknowledgement of a colonial situation and a request for a peaceful and negotiated settlement of the dispute.As with many such Resolutions ,and despite Argentina' continues pleas for international law to be respected ,they have done little to change the present situation of these frigid islands.
@57
Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0What on earth are you talking about? Why on earth would we put ground troops on the Argentine mainland when we can take out your air force bases using cruise missiles from about 5,000 miles away.
We are talking about reducing your military to rubble - thats all. No harm to your people - just making sure that in order to silence you once and for all we reduce your army, air force and navy bases to rubble so that you are unable to defend yourself properly for quote a while leaving you vulnerable to some points scoring by say the chileans who dont like you and have a territorial dispute or two to settle with you.
what we need to do first though is provoke you into invading again and your troops can have the sight of them going one way to The Falklands and the missiles going the other way. We can do it under the pretence of self defence.
Youre crazy if you think we'd put troops on your land; thats why we have nuclear subs, cruise missiles and one of the most sophisticated sets of military equipment on planet earth. You dont have a dog and bark.
what I suggest YOU do is invite your President to amend your constitution, stop harassing the Islanders and behave like a democratic country instead of a Banana Republic.
no talking until you give up your sovereignty claim entirely to the Falklands.
YOU WILL NOT BE GETTING THE FALKLAND ISLANDS - WHICH ARENT YOURS - NEVER HAVE BEEN AND DONT BELONG TO YOU - UNLESS YOU DECLARE WAR AND INVADE THE ISLANDS AGAIN.
@ 57
Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't worry Dany our mission is not to invade Argentina, only to defend the Falkland Islands. We wouldn't set foot on Argentinian territory in force. Maybe a few SAS/SBS, a few Tomahawks or Stormshadows to take out your ability to attack us. But no invasion. You can put your dick away now you sticky individual.
Its also interesting on here to note that The Hitler Youth League not only want the Falklands but also South Georgia and incredibly - Antarctica. This really is quite sinister and not only that pie in the sky since their armed forces couldnt kick my arse never mind say the UK Armed Forces (or anyone else's for that matter). They have nothing to back up their expansionist threat other than hot air and bullying.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is being led down a path that will lead to their eventual humiliation.
Chuckle, chuckle.
By ignoring Argentina and International Community and evading serious negotiations,the UK has been able to continue a status quo of occupation and unilateral action thrughout the years.The Status Quo has been good to Britain.It has enjoyed for over three decades of exclusive rights to the sale of fishing licences in perhaps the richest waters in the Atlantic as reported by FAO.When it unilaterally established maritime jurisdiction over 200 nautical miles surrounding the islands in 1986.It began selling the Fishing Licences to Japan,Korea,Poland.According the report by 1997 in the “” Maritime Briefing “” on these islands after the ordinance was established “” licence fees subsequently brought in several millions pounds per year “”.......
Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0with the harvest of squid alone yielding 30 millions pounds in 1992....
** 63 Mc
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0It seems that this [high proteinised plus Omega 3] Islanders really do not need any oil drilling.
@ 64 Geo
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Money going to City-London
becouse
These Frigid Islands is neither Autonomous nor Independent
just a tiny UK land.
** 65 Mc
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0well, i understand their troubles now.!
63 McLick
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't forget Our friends in Spain. They are closely involved with our fishing businesses also.
64 Geo
We definitely need the oil also. We don't want to settle for having a GDP per capita of more than 3 times that of Argentina. We want it to be more than 10 times bigger. LOL!
65 McLick
The only money going to London will be the money that FIG decide to give London. You are right though. A lot of money will go to London to pay for our defence. The only expense we don't currently generate enough funds for ourselves. ...and we all know why our defence budget is what it is don't we.
Chuckle chuckle
** 67
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0just broke consolation !!
67
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lick my boots.
@57 Wrong. You don't need to invade Marmierda to furk it up.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Process
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a) Wait until winter cometh.
b) Take out the power generation capabilities and transfer of gas, fuel, etc.
c) Create an economic blockade.
d) Create and enforce a no fly zone over the territory.
Outcome
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e) huge numbers of people migrate to chile and brazil because of the intollerable situation.
f) most of the bullets are wasted on criminal activities.
g) Country descends into c14th Century war-lordism
You don't need to invade Marmierda to make the Marmierdans understand the effects of war.
DUNNI-BURGER
Mar 17th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Playing the tough man again, only one problem, you need a bunch of cowardly Argies behind you to hold you hand! Ha, Ha, Ha,
And where have all these 'forces' come from? Your imagination?
The stats on the Argentine military are very well known, even if you don't know what they are.
You have 100,000 standing military of all force types plus less than 0.5M what are best called reservists (no qualititive parameters).
AND I absolutely pissed myself when I read this little nugget:
“Arg. civilians itself can be a scary combative force as civilians hold more than 3millions weapons” Ha, Ha, Ha,
You fcuking nubnut. You still don't get it do you? Any future conflict between the UK and you bunch will be by missile. Conventionally tipped cruise missiles against your infrastructure CLUE what infrastructure means: power stations (mind you, they blow up on their own-have you seen the film on YouTube?), ALL oil installations, military facilities (but of limited importance as you only have limited forces, despite your claims) railway yards and stations (though you lot manage to smash things up on your own), national transport routes and intersections (if you can tell the diference between the chasms in the road and missile craters). NOTE, we will not deliberately target the population unlike your bunch of cowardly bastards did on the Falklands (there are no Malivinas) in 1982.
PS I hope the users of the 3M firearms know more about them than you do, even though they won't get a chance to use them except on each other OR themselves.
But it won't come to that, you will have a military coup before long OR a civil war. This CFK nonsense has to stop some time.
45 Malvinero1
WRONG AGAIN
The Google map says: Falkland Islands
and underneath it in brackets:
(Islas Malvinas) That's for Espanol users, not real world travellers. :o)
@45 I can see Marmierda (Argentina) on Google Maps, is it anywhere near there?
Mar 17th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WRONG AGAIN
Mar 17th, 2012 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Google map says: Falkland Islands
and underneath it in brackets:
(Islas Malvinas) That's for Espanol users, not real world travellers. :o)
Still it says MAlvinas....Stupid pirates brits!
@73 I can still see Marmierda and underneath it in brackets (Argentina) That's for Espanol poor people, not real people. Are the mythical Malvinas Islands that you talk of, anywhere near there?
Mar 17th, 2012 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are they between Marmierda in South America and hundreds of miles away the Falkland Islands in the Atlantic?
49 DanyBerger
Mar 17th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0quote: “This means if UK will not give up the islands by diplomatic and pacific means, Argentina will resort to a new bloody war.”
You are not very bright are you? If you seriously think the world will support you, that your military is strong enough, that you have the backing of the Argentine people and you think the British military and the Falkland Islands Defence Force will buckle under the strain of your mighty assault forces, you are on another planet!
I'm just a girl - but I'll be waiting, with hundreds of others to kill as many of you as I can. I don't expect to see you Berger, like most Nazi's you will be at home waving a flag and cheering, until you loose that is then you will, like all AG's be burning your flag and spitting at your troops.
Your type of person disgusts me. But I feed off people like you. Without you we wouldn't be so strong.
Jo
@75 I wouldn't worry. The Samurai used to say that there were only two important things in life; living with honour and dying with honour. Fighting to keep some islands out of the hands of corrupt italian-mafiosa and free of crypto-Nazi rule is certainly both of the above.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go Jo !!! :)
Mar 17th, 2012 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@75
Mar 17th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent post, you have DUNNI-BERGER (as I have named him) spot on: he is indeed a coward.
@ 76 stelyo
Mar 17th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN reported put forward that Slobodon Milosevic used South Cyprus as a money laundering center to finance his actions for in Bosnia
Cyprus Mail(March 3 2002) says ..4 billions $ were channeled to Europe
through Cyprus illegally from Yugoslavia....
Osama Bin Laden used South Cyprus as transit point of export in order to finance his activities, he had many bank accounts in Nicosia .( as a transit point to export Sudanese exports such as peanuts to Europe.....)
The Russian Mafia is also used South Cyprus as base its extensive operations.The Russian Mafia greatly benefits from its extensive operations in Greek Cypriot Administration.,and in many Greek off-shore firms and banks..( for example ...Pavel Borodin advisor of Boris Yeltsin transferred millions of dollars acquired from illegal activities in Moscow to off-shore companies through South Cyprus..)
@8 Have you read what you call yourself? Seriously, how would you differentiate between an animal and an argie? How would killing argies not help solve our problem? Do you think they'd have a change of heart after we'd killed half of them? Or are you denying the ability, courage and professionalism of British service personnel?
Mar 17th, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 No negotiation! See the UN Charter. Resources? How could they belong to a criminal, rebel Spanish colony? Argies don't have legislation. They have what the current gangster moll thinks up during her latest bout of PMT.
@17 Did you know there's another cretin just like you? See#14
@19 Poor child. Keyboard stuck!
@20 Congratulations! Murky is right!
@41 AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Papal Bullsh*t of 1496. Not recognised by anyone at the time except the paedophiles (i.e. Roman Catholics). You're a joke. Admittedly, a psychotic, genocidal joke. Please start walking home. It's south. Never mind the blue stuff. It's an illusion!
@43 We'll be watching for you. The Hunchback of Casa Rosada!!
@45 You can't have a claim if you're dead! Thought of that, have you?
@49 How many do you want to lose this time? 6,000? 60,000? 600,000? 6,000,000? All the same to us. Perhaps you haven't noticed what we have now. 270 cruise missiles for a first (naval) strike. Naturally, RFA vessels (already on-station) carry replacement missiles. Typhoon MRCAs carry Storm Shadow cruise missiles. Now for the second strike!
@57 Difficult to shoot anyone after a 16 gigaton nuclear strike! And still not a single British soldier within thousands of miles of the argie has-been land. But I will write to the Prime Minister. And urge him to exterminate you now. Watch the skies!
@63, 64, 65, 66. Finished talking to each other?
@73 Did you not understand? The “Malvinas” bit is for the delusional cretins.
Hi argie b-losers. What's the matter? Can't take a joke? Why not? You are one. Or 40 million. You too can achieve your place in the world. Shove your head in a toilet.
@80
Mar 17th, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a nervous old woman !
What a manic lot of creeps. Quite seriously, I can visualise these rabid RG's in baggy overcoats, clutching a large bag of sweets, in a childrens playground. Argentina, the sick man of South America.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is really to bad. Argentina is steadily turning into one sorry country. Millet USA
Mar 17th, 2012 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@79 I'm missing your point. You wrote a lot of things about Greek Cyprus.. but what does it have to do with Argentina intimidating and bullying the Falkland islands simply because it wants to have it?
Mar 17th, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@49 Danny Boy
Mar 17th, 2012 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'This means if UK will not give up the islands by diplomatic means etc Argentina will resort to a new bloody war'
The current facist regime is merely using the 'Falklands argument' to hide the fact that they are inept, corrupt and have no idea of how to run a modern economy. You my friend are being duped by them. How does this feel to being duped by a bunch of Nazi comedians?
@ 84 stelyo
Mar 17th, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what the mixing of @ 63 + @ 79 is telling you !?!?!?
@81 You're right! Nervous enough to shove a kukri up your a*se! Want to go for it?
Mar 17th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@86 You have trouble figuring out what you said? What a dismal, retarded tit!
Are you not ashamed of yourself? How can you live in the gay capital of the world? Be honest with yourself. Go out and shag some guy in the ass. If that doesn't work, drop your pants, bend over and wait. Someone will shag your ass. That's what you're made for. Spread those cheeks!
@ 87
Mar 17th, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I fairly understand your age and rage of what you can not take any share from the covered fishing licences in to your pocket where all going into the London Lords' pocket.Of course it is very shameful to make you tooling for their futile propaganda and so on ....!
@88 It's going into updating the cricket ground. That's a nice gift from the people of the Falklands.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 89
Mar 17th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A poor community on the frigid islands.!
90 McClick
Mar 17th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop posting gobbledygook, nothing you have posted so far makes sense. I may as well be reading the posts of a deranged Argentine Malvinoid, oh I am!
I'm just a girl - but I'll be waiting, with hundreds of others to kill as many of you as I can. I don't expect to see you Berger, like most Nazi's you will be at home waving a flag and cheering, until you loose that is then you will, like all AG's be burning your flag and spitting at your troops.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lost girl: AHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Now there are misiles and viruses.....NO contact troops,IDIOT
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS!!
DOWN with the Brits pirates!
@Furry-Fat-Feck
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is what “reality check” said “Make no mistake, if they start a fight again, it will be taken straight back to them.”
“Don't worry Dany our mission is not to invade Argentina, only to defend the Falkland Islands.”
“Maybe a few SAS/SBS, a few Tomahawks or Stormshadows to take out your ability to attack us.”
I’m not worry, why I should? You have to be worry after all you have taken a really a bad job especially on these days. It is so sad to see people mutilated, burnt and in wheel chairs.
@93
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well don't start anything then. Simples.
93 DanyBerger - “It is so sad to see people mutilated, burnt and in wheel chairs.”
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does that mean the RG military will place civilians in harms way by using them as a human shield at strategic military and governmental locations?
@95 Typically people in wheelchairs in Argentina typically get drugged and chucked out of planes, just like nuns. It's their improvement on Uncle Adolf's and Auntie Benito's death camp, because there is less evidence.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Before they had planes they used to just push the first nations people off cliffs, and now they just let them starve. That's the joy of peronism *cough* nazism *cough*
PIRATAS, GO HOME (UK)! THE WORLD IS AGAINST UK AND KELPERS (ANOTHERS ROBBERS OF THE FACIST IMPIRE)!
Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@75 lost1,
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You not “just” a girl.
You are a girl & one day you will be a Woman.
Be proud cheri,
You may even be a warrior woman, like:-
Boudicca,
St Joan of Arc,
Queen Elizabeth Tudor,
l salute you.
Isn’t it nice to believe in fantasy, these Argies really do think they not only own the south Atlantic and everything that’s in it, but they actually believe the world agrees with them,
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still, if that’s what talking makes you believe in, then carry on talking,
Because that’s all CFK can do, is it not.
.
Kelpers (IGNORANTS AND ROBBERS).
Mar 18th, 2012 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17045169
@99 It's peronism. It's like some weird opiate where you stay true to a continuously failing political ideology that is fundamentally flawed and then just blame everyone else for its failure.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0over and over and over...
With regard to Kipling.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is either one of them thar computer programmes or a pre-pubescent bag of puss emptying itself into an old sock each time it posts something.
Ewwwwwwww! Icky.
101
Mar 18th, 2012 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed
100
Still makes exceedingly bad cakes.
.
I've been watching this site and reading the comments for quite some time now, and I feel compelled to have my say.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was a British soldier from 1993 to 1996 in the 1st Battalion RGBW (Royal Gloucetershire, Berkshire & Wiltshire Regiment), and spent 6 hellish months on active duty in the war-torn city of Goradze, Bosnia.
I say this only because it seems some posters here, both RG & UK, relish the prospect of another war. I think people are forgetting about the islanders themselves, who would be forced to (yet again) witness the brutality of armed conflict on their own soil.
I know the only way the UK would even contemplate the use of force would be in response to an RG invasion of the (very British) Falklands, which would result in a decisive and relativley quick victory for the UK.
Don't get me wrong, I've no love whatsoever for that rubber necked slag of a President or her cheap bullyboy tactics, I just don't think another war is the correct option.
However, if the RG's did invade, I would of course support any military action 100%.
Lastly, I would like to thank the likes of 'Pepe, Filipo & Geo' etc for the Oh-so-many laughs they have provided me. TV has been shit lately, and without all the little nuggets of 'truth' they have been posting, I'd be forced to watch Dancing on Ice
@104 First things first, Welcome.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Second thing, most people commenting here realise that war = bad. But we also realise that Argentina = bad. So, it's quite likely they'll invade again, but as you say the victory will be decisive.
The strategic issue with the last invasion was that no one on the UK side was prepared. They were throwing it all together as they went, and the lack of transport, troops unaccustomed to antarctic conditions and ineffective missile protection for the boats just compounded the issue. I'm surprised we won, and won with so few casualties.
So, if they invade again, which would be sad (but Argies like sad things) I'd imagine it would be a lot better for the UK guys with the guns. Terrible for the Argies though.
@105
Mar 18th, 2012 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0To be honest, I don't think the RG's have the capability of mounting another assault on the Islands.
But for the personnell who are already deployed in the S.Atlantic, the sad fact is, our forces are spread quite thin as they are.
@106 Then it comes down to maximising the cost of war. The argies could invade, but it would cost them a whole lot. All we do is maximise the cost. Very sad to say it in this way but that's war.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only threat they retain is from the air, which is quite an old force now unless they bought something new from the Chinese or Russians on hire-purchase.
Better not take any risks.
@107
Mar 18th, 2012 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0To use the old US saying “It's how much bang for your buck”
And looking at thestate of the RG economy, I think we'll be OK!
@ 104
Mar 18th, 2012 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0How do Optical. Pull up a sandbag.
Nobody wants a war. I am not sure what else to say, it is difficult. It is difficult because both positions are entrenched. There is no room for manoeuvre in this.
The Falklanders are between a rock and a hard place, they cannot move and why should they. This is their home. They have every right to it. They have every right to go about their lives as they so wish. This is their country, nobody else's. They have every right to exploit their own resources as they see fit without interference from Argentina or for that matter, the UK.
The UK does not have a whiter than white history but theirs is little different from anybody else's and in any case we are not talking about history, we are talking about the here and now. We are talking about what is right and wrong from this point on.
Somebody has got to stand up to Argentina and her ambitions and I think you have touched upon the reality. Forget the British forces sworn to protect the FI and her people. That is an obligation that simply must be honoured. As you so rightly point out, it is the Falkland Islanders that have everything to lose if we fail but be assured we are in this together.
I am confident though that the FI and the UK will succeed together. I am confident that one day the UK will be able to take a back seat knowing that out of all this the FI will be strong, confident and independent in all things and it might take a century or two to accomplish this; but it WILL happen.
Argentina and the malvinistas can huff and puff and bully and threaten. They may even try to use force again and again but all it will do is forge an FI that is stronger and more independent. They are not asking for much. Only to be left in peace and I think it is not only the right thing but also the essential thing that the UK, even if nobody else will, supports them every step of the way.
Hope for the best and prepare for the worst..
FI. Stand tall and give the malvinistas the bird.
@108 The argies know that their invasion would require significant and expensive borrowing from third parties. It would also lead to significant losses to their infrastructure. Sitting in the dark for 3 years isn't a lot of fun.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0They also know the UK forces are trained and prepared in the field of battle.
108 The argies know that their invasion would require significant and expensive borrowing from third parties. It would also lead to significant losses to their infrastructure. Sitting in the dark for 3 years isn't a lot of fun
Mar 18th, 2012 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do not worry,we will wait for the appropiatte time.
MAlvinas we WILL RETURN!
@111 What you did there was say that you want to invade the islands, and the Argentinians will invade the islands. Thanks for saying what we all thought.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0@111
Mar 18th, 2012 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0When will that time be?
I'm guessing your talking long term future?
Depends how desperate KFC gets.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@111 What you did there was say that you want to invade the islands, and the Argentinians will invade the islands. Thanks for saying what we all thought
Mar 18th, 2012 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does not matter.Menendez surrender in a battle,not Argentina.....MAlvinas WE WILL RETURN!!
@111 appropriate time, I don't think so .... The witch wont be in power much longer, from the forums I have read the people are getting sick and tired of her cover ups and lying. Its about time the chapter of the kirchners era was closed shut, and especially to get rid of La Campora youth organization created by Máximo Kirchner I no doubt Malvinero1,Pepe, Filipo & Geo are much loved members of that organization !!! and they need to elect a person without a history of corruption, someone who will actually sort out the real issues inside the country and stop diverting the attention with silly claims.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0@115 get busy returning then. Stop talking about it.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0@116 If they didn't have the Maximo's Hitler Youth then what would all the argentinian kids do? There wouldn't be anyone to draw endless murals of “Malvinas Argentinas” rather than focusing on making Belgrano Airlines profitable.
111 appropriate time, I don't think so .... The witch wont be in power much longer, from the forums I have read the people are getting sick and tired of her cover ups and lying. Its about time the chapter of the kirchners
Mar 18th, 2012 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0And you beast,Mrs Kirchner,will not be in power much longer,I agree,but the Argentines,will be,and we will be much worse than her......
. Máximo Kirchner I no doubt Malvinero1,Pepe, Filipo & Geo are much loved members of that organization NO I did not Vote for her!! I do not like her,but MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINIAN!
MALVINAS WE WILL RETURN!!
@117 GreekYoghurt
Mar 18th, 2012 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0indeed firstly I would keep the focus on that 2.4 billion that went missing and pressure her to give answers but I guess the Hitler Youth as you call them would stop any Politian or critic of her lovely government from ever speaking their mind. It will come down to the good people of Argentina to go out and speak their minds in numbers which is the only way to get rid of the corruption that is the Kirchners and we all know they love to protest !
118 Malvinero1 Maybe then you should send in your application for La Campora you would be a great asset for that corrupt organization because they also live in a fantasy world...
@119 now compare $2.4 billion that the Kirchner-Hitler Youth evaporated away, and then compare that to the $150 million in oil revenues.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm.. perspective.
@120
Mar 18th, 2012 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes ridiculous I know but I guess the logic was never her strongest point, In fact I don't think Cristina has any strong points! she just makes things it up as she goes along and spouts out a lot of demands...
Economic blockades aren't not very useful (like the long lasting blockade on Cuba shows,) this kind of tactics are unlikely to work. Intimidation, insults... they are not a proven way to annex a territory either. No military option as long as the US remains neutral and the diplomatic way is barred by the hostile behavior of Buenos Aires. What is the point of the current Argentinian policy? Just imitating the US/Cuba issue to bolster their ego?
Mar 18th, 2012 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@121 Sure, but if she wants a goldmine, she should ask the person who runs Le Camping where all the money went. Then she'd immediately have more money than natural resources in the Falklands. Oh wait, Maximo runs Le Camping.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0She'll probably get back to demanding things then.
I often post about the sorry state of Argentina. But the UK is also not Lilly White either. Today it was reported in the United States that the UK has passed a law making it a crime for a person to wear a Christian Cross around their neck while at work. SAME ON GREAT BRITON. -- SHAME ON HER PEOPLE -- SHAME ON THE UK COURTS. - Millet USA
Mar 18th, 2012 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@124 Millet,
Mar 18th, 2012 - 05:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0l'd like to see them try to stop me wearing a cross if l wanted too.
@118 Malvinero1,
No they are not &
No you will NOT return.
Maybe you could return as a slave. To work in my garden & feed the chickens.
After the next war, we will require a number of neutered slaves every year from Argentina.
There must be gold somewhere on the lslands, where we can use them.
124 &125, I think you'll find that the matter you refer to has NOT been made a crime, it simply states that wearing a cross is not seen as being an 'official' part of ones Christian beliefs in the same way that other religions 'require' followers to wear ie the sikh turban or the jewish shawl ( I apologise for not knowing their correct names!). It sets out the position to prevent any 'tit for tat' law suits in relation to religious complaints. This matter is a whole new thread, but not one to get your knickers in a twist over. Christian have plenty other options of symbolism and faith. I am a Christian and I'm sure I won't lose any sleep over it.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is a thermometric scale of cannibaistic instinct,it turns elective and crerates friendship.Affectively or love,speculative , science.It deviates and transfer,then arrive at utter vilification.In base Cannibalism sins agglomerates--envy,usury,calumny....
Mar 18th, 2012 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is know well that Cannibalism is a societal norm which has roots in totemism.Totemism is a idea that the people have some kindship which a past entity such a spirit which can take the form of an animal or object.
( 120 )
Mar 18th, 2012 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say :
.....Kirchner-Hitler youth...odds and ends...corrupt,demode Jew propaganda
I say :
Did you met(know) Hitler in person ?....NO ...!
You didn't like his moustache..?????
He is an pure man comparing to present crap politicians...
I love Hitler...!!
@ 128 Murky
Mar 18th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't believe he & Nazis made any masacres on Jews while determined period.
But,I know he helped and organized the Jews migration and settlements into America.
the Jews are problematic group has been the cause of the destroying of “” income equality “” in the societies during the history....recent example from Bernie Madoff litigation from US...many more...
( 129 )
Mar 18th, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't forget the technology transfers made to mental miserable Americans and Russians.....
@ 130
Mar 18th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Almost all technologic sectors there based from German (some of them from other East European origin) scientific men...for example recent Computer Technologies( Industries)...Energy....Biochemistry.....
Steve Jobs was from Romania origin ....not from as media told. !!
@ 131
Mar 18th, 2012 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0...+ space technologies.....
even bright legend Hollywood actors...
Yul Breinner,Karl Malden,Kirk-Michael Douglas,Charles Bronson,Jack Palance,Bruce Willis,.....many newer more.
geo,
Mar 18th, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come quickly, they are imitating your literary style.
@118 Malvibaby
Mar 18th, 2012 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think so. Not today thankyou.
@Isolde. I am an atheist, but some of my friends are very devout christians. I find the idea of the banning of the wearing of the cross appalling. This country is built on religious and political freedom. You tell 'em.
@Murkythink and Mcclick. I am glad that nazism went to the scrap heap of history. You need help.
@ 134
Mar 18th, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are sleeping ......
the Nazism still is living .....!
@ 134 shb
Mar 18th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ask them to CIA .
Should we wait the Yorgo's Yoghurt Soup all day here .
Mar 18th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0@88 The revenue from fishing licences goes to the Falkland Islands Government. The Falkland Islands Government doesn't send any money to the UK.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@90 A “poor” community? Falkland Islands GDP (PPP) per capita $25,000
Argentine GDP (PPP) per capita $17,376. Bet you wish you were that “poor”!
@92 Remember that missiles and viruses are YOUR idea. Bubonic plague to every argie settlement with a population exceeding 500,000. Ebola for everywhere else. Foot-and-mouth disease, African swine fever and psittacosis for the animals. Herbicides for all crops. Argieland = wasteland.
@93 Start anything else, sonny, and you might find out what “blitzkrieg” is like! From the ground.
@97 Back to baking your cakes, girlie!
@100 Did you notice someone else posted that link? But thanks. Always good to see argies posting stuff that describes how stupid they are.
@104 Please make no mistake. No-one from the Falklands or Britain WANTS a war. What we WANT is for belligerent argies to revert to their proper place (i.e. turds of the world) and understand our commitment to making argies pay one-hundredfold for everything they do!
@111 See you around 2200 then! And I don't mean 10pm.
@115 How far do you expect to get? When we shoot down or sink anything that gets within 200 miles!
@118 The LAST argie words on the subject. Glug, glug, glug!
@127 Cracked, then!
@128 Of course you do. A mad, murdering, megalomaniac, war-mongering, genocidal turd. Just your type.
@129 YOU don't believe? Seen the pictures, seen the films, have you? Your extermination WILL be justified!
@135 Not for much longer. YOU are going to be obliterated soon. YOU've just justified the extinction of EVERY single argie!
So let me get this straight. In one communique the Foreign Office said that Argentine domestic law does not apply to the Falklands and Sandwich islands. That part makes sense to me.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then
The FCO spokesperson added the Argentine threats are “illegal, unbecoming and wholly counter-productive”.
Why is domestic policy illegal?? It is domestic policy! The Falkanders or the Foreign office have not say.
Take easy, no one really wants a war. Probably just a few “bad” argies are looking for it.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are all being hit by the current political mistakes of Buenos Aires. Hopefully the current situation will not last too long, Argentina is loosing reserves (from their central bank) fast, and they have managed to irritated other countries, beside UK, too. They are fighting on several fronts already and without hope of winning on any of them.
Audi Consilium, the UK's no cross law, was reported here in the USA as a crime. In fact, not only in the press, now even church pastors are telling their congregations about Briton's no cross law in their churches on Sundays. It might not be a big thing to you but here in the USA it is being brought to the peoples attention. It was not that long ago when the Bishop of Canterbury even called for the legalization of sharia law in the UK. Maybe the UK should clean it own house before it worries about Argentina's. - Millet USA
Mar 18th, 2012 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Millet
Mar 18th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well dear Millet seems you slowly, slowly are getting into reality. Are you?
By reading your post I guess you have no idea about Britain and how is to live there on these days.
I guess you have ever been there and you are so shocking because her highness Elizabeth II courts has punished Christian to use a cross.
Do you know that in Britain there are no go areas under Shaira law?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8686504/Sharia-a-law-unto-itself.html
Well dear Millet your next terrorist extremist attack with anthrax or whatever on US soil will not come from The Middle East otherwise from Britain aka Ukistan.
I also figure out that you have no idea about Argentina and that all you think to know comes from shitty media.
So now you can continue bashing and trashing the Argentinians while Mohammeds are knocking at your door.
@118 Malvineroi
Mar 18th, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have no right to return.
The islands are not yours nor have they ever been.
What you are saying is baseless and worse that the Moors saying they are going to return to Spain - at least they had some legitimacy.
Argentina's claims are based on a warped version of history which is spewed out to their population at birtyh and is worse than the propoganda of Joseph Goebbels.
( 138)
Mar 18th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BUT, the comment ( 67) says different things......!
139 Tobias
Mar 18th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your comment surprises me. Are you saying that a domestic policy can only be legal no matter what it is?
139 tobias
Mar 19th, 2012 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly it's not domestic if it has international repercussions.
Britain will allow any court proceedings to take their cause and add them on to a growing list of grievances, transgressions and economic terrorism aimed at both the Falkland Islands and Britain. It will launch counter proceedings through international bodies such as the EU, WTO, IMF, WB, etc.
Any sanctions taken against British companies would be a violation of International Trade Laws and agreements already negotiation via international organisations such as the IMF.
As the balance of trade between the UK and Argentina is grossly in favour of Argentina, Argentina can only loose. Not just financially but in the eyes of the world.
It will be sen as more bully boy tactics on behalf of a large nation aimed at subjugating a very small neighbour.
Already in the UK, CKF's Argentina is being compared to Mugabe's Zimbabwe.
Danny Burger, I have been to England many times. The last time I flew to England was to attend to a flower show held at Chelsea gardens.. I have never been to Argentina, basically because there are to many other places in the world that I would rather visit. There is really no reason to visit Argentina, or for that matter, many of the other countries in South America. Millet USA
Mar 19th, 2012 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Father, yes father. What else these BRITS bunch of arrogant are ?
Mar 19th, 2012 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. Edwards: You are in the American continent and NOT in the UK and you live in 2012!!!!
Do you think the UK servants who are living in UK and suffering their flat economy will care about you in the next 10 years ?????
Latin Americans will rules this territories NOT YOU NOT YOU NOT YOU
** 133 isol
Mar 19th, 2012 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0they are more ingenious than GeoffWard
BUT
they tell the truth ...agree with them....!!
Cristina Fernández de Kirchner the current disaster president of Argentina
Mar 19th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the other Argentina crooks are her vice-president, Amado Boudou, he is actually an owner of the company that prints money for the government in Argentina, a major conflict of interest, but he denies it, he owns the company in the names of other friends and associates. He is being investigated and surely will end up in jail where he belongs. Cristinas 2 VERY UGLY children, Maximo and Florencia Kirchner, are also very corrupt. Maximo owns all kinds of hotels and properties adn Florencia is a film student in New York and lives in a luxury Park Avenue apartment and is known for major cocaine use. Some of us who know her in New York remember how she always used to tell us how her parents have a bank account drawn on the Nation of Argentina and for her family money is no object. These 2 corrupt children of Cristina Kirchner are self proclaimed “militants”, they belong to 2 internal terrorist groups which Cristina Kirchner finances, “La Cámpora” and “Quebracho”. “La Cámpora” goes around to the poor shantytowns around the cities in Argentina and gives the poor people a bag of groceries, a sausage sandwich called “choripan” and $20 pesos to buy their votes. These people have no choice but to accept this as they are extremely poor and have no other hope. “Quebracho” is a terrorist group which Cristina Kirchner pays to protect her, they disguise their faces and go around shaking down businesses to get money and give back to the president. They are also responsible for drug dealing, robberies and murders.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
140 LuisM
Mar 19th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're right, no one wants a war. Most Argentinians don't want a war but are being led down that path by their hysterical government, spouting poison and threats towards the Falklands and the UK.
Yes the UK won the 1982 war but still left behind 251 dead. that's 251 families, missing a part of them. Who needs a war? Not Argentina.
138 Conqueror Calm down!! no one's extinction is justified. Tell me, if we did go to war, would you be going? do you feel that strongly about killing RG's that you would sign up?
No one wants a war, even those who think they do will find out that they don't. It's a senseless waste of life.
@ 151
Mar 19th, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don't forget the “” Asymmetric Wars“” !
147 Millet---- good choice, and this is the reason why you don't want to visit Argentina and any South American country's
Mar 19th, 2012 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117093/Secret-files-reveal-9-000-Nazi-war-criminals-fled-South-America-WWII.html
As many as 5,000 Nazis went to Argentina
Between 1,500 and 2,000 ended up in Brazil
Around 500 to 1,000 settled in Chile
The rest started new lives in Paraguay and Uruguay.
No wonder those countries are so F*****D up, when you sup with the devil you become his disciple 5,000 went to Argentina and made a new start in life with their families. I wonder how many out of those 5,000 had children that grew up, learned how to spread their evil knowledge, and sporned even more evil little bastards that are now running the country. Says it all doesn't it no matter how they try to portray themselves the past gets comes in the way and the truth always is ousted. Peaceful nation my arse give that country an inch and they will take not a mile but at least 300 mile, bastards.
141 @Millet & 142@DanyB
Mar 19th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again, there is NO CRIME to wear a cross in the UK. What the law is outlining is that there is and never has been any Christian obligation to wear one as part of your faith, and so if asked/told to remove one (under such circumstances as a hygene zone in a hospital) there can be no grounds to claim discrimination under anti discrimination laws of the UK or HR laws of the EU. Those in the US should not get their knickers in a twist about UK laws or precedents, the UK does not want any Christian fundamentalists as well as those already alluded to by DBerger.
As for 'no go area's' under sharia law, THERE ARE'NT ANY. There is a long history of Jewish ecclesiastical laws operating in the UK for centuaries as a Jewish neighbourhood resolution to Jewish problems and the 'Arch Bish' was highlighting potentially the same options for sharia, but in no way usurping or superseding UK civil or criminal law. The fact that fundamentalist muslims what to twist sharia into their own 'idea' of sharia is entirely another matter. Finally DB, since 1829 the modern UK police have striven to maintain the peace by means of understanding, persuation and mutual resolutions before resorting to physical enforcement of law. This is what is meant by 'policing by consent'. They have never carried out such brutal total enforcement actions such as are reported occurring in LatAm countries (and yes I do not single out Argentina as others have had done the same in SA).
To recap, No criminalisation of wearing the cross, and no 'No Go Areas' or total sharia law.
I hope that clear some of the misunderstandings up for you both.
This is how Cristina Kirchner and her cronies get into power:
Mar 19th, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
Millet, read. #154. What he says here is true. It is not illegal to wear a cross in the UK. You can wear a neon flashing one if you like. A Christian colleague was wearing a nice silver one at work today. Your pastors are just getting over excited over nothing.
Mar 19th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0( 154 )
Mar 19th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you see Yorgo ( GreekYoghurt) ? ..I was looking for him.
157 - No, I wouldn't know him if I fell over him !! sorry.
Mar 19th, 2012 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0141 Millet
Mar 20th, 2012 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's no crime of wearing a cross.
There is however, political correctness, which certain papers go out of their way to report on - although often you can find the same paper exposing PC, as supporting it and always hyping up both side of the debate with a tissue of lies and miss reporting.
Sadly it's the same throughout Europe, the US and Canada now.
I doubt anyone posting here likes PC but if you think the UK is bad, try almost any other country in Europe. I can search the US media today and find the most outrageous cases. It is no doubt the same in Argentina, they recently had a male Argentine Major marry another Argentine soldier who had a sex change - both were still serving. Call me old fashioned.
It's hilarious but you can either laugh or cry. Most people in the UK are pretty conservative, just check out our TV programming.
The vast majority of people laugh at the PC brigade. Sometimes it's all you can do, we all know what it really about.
142 DanyBurger
Be glad of PC Dany, people like you need all the political correctness you can get.
@145
Mar 20th, 2012 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly, yes. Otherwise, there is no concept of sovereignty if foreign countries can have a say in what is legal in another country, because it basically waters down the definition of legality to a matter of cultural or financial convenience.
Is the stoning of women in some Arab countries legal then? See what I mean. Slippery slope.
If Argentina wants to tax or sanction companies in its own territory is has that right. Of course the affected side has a right for legal recourse, but we know that in a fight of a corporation vs a sovereign, the corporation tends to lose.
@160 tobias
Mar 20th, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina can define/decide what is legal in Argentina of course, however whether this is consistent with Argentina’s obligations under trade agreements and international law is another matter.
Also of course the British can decide the actions are a politically motivated attack against British interests, and respond accordingly.
Either way the fight tends to end up as one of governments, with the corporations on the sidelines. As we are now beginning to see with the Repsol-YPF situation.
Pugol-H
Mar 20th, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ British interest” and “ The rest of world obligations” are interconnected, right?
Besides the oldest Pirates, Cheaters, and thefts of the world( I must include you: A SERVANT) what else is UK? You are OLD.
@161
Mar 20th, 2012 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are correct, but within your sovereignty, anything deemed legal is in fact legal. That is what defines sovereignty, otherwise you aren't.
Certainly any country can rally support or seek any sort of action against another, either in relatiation or otherwise. Both sides obviously should understand the consequences of their escalation.
Amnesty - Argentina's 10% Amerindian population subject to racist violence, discrimination and imprisonment in THEIR OWN LAND - http://laht.com/article.asp?articleid=355829&categoryid=14093
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