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Joint declaration not expected to mention Lan flight to the Falklands, say Chilean sources
A joint declaration on the Falklands Islands dispute reaffirming Chilean support to Argentina’s claim over the Malvinas is expected to be released Friday at the end of President Cristina Fernandez visit but allegedly with no specific mention to the Lan Chile air link, according to diplomatic sources. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesGood luck to Chile in screwing as much as they can get out of Argruntina.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Joint declarations on the Falklands issue seem two-a-penny. Have any of the last 50 joint declarations changed anything?
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0(answer: no)
Is not British airways flying to London from the Island? I thought you were British. Don't you?
Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0they should only care of more british flightssssss
Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think they dont have enough for eggs and fruit and vegetables, from british origin obviously that must be much better for them, the british taste they need.
Erm Dany, there's more than one island in the Falklands. About 700 in fact.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And there is a flight to the UK, to Brize Norton and it's operated on behalf of the Royal Air Force.
only a flight to UK???????????????????????
Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0poor colony two per day you should have
6 malen
Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I feel sorry for your family, they have produced a moron. When you and you other Nazi friends try and rape people do you enjoy? obviously so.
But you look and sound so pathetic.
I bet you spend all your days in your armchair with your cheap tobacco and Argentine alcohol, masturbating over the Falkland Islands on the internet and salivating over dominating other people, that you will NEVER be able to.
I wonder malen what you did in the Dirty War? I bet you killed many innocent children, like you brave military and police.
Oh what it is to be Argentine. I pity you scum.
do a favour continue insulting...........
Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wont answer
So why do you keep answering?
Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 That's because you're an ignorant, discourteous, uneducated argie toe-rag. The Falkland Islanders wouldn't want 2 flights a day. How wrong it would be for nearly the entire population to go on foreign holidays at the same time. The Islanders have what they want. The British government does not seek to impose additional flights. What valid right or reason do you have?
Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not for going on holidays only, to send you british products, fuel, cars, tractors , etc. UK must be blockading you with only a flight.........you need more links with beauty UK.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to send you british products, fuel, cars, tractors , etc
Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How many seats would a tractor take up? you clown Malen
its your problem you drive the wrong way, you can only buy them in britain. there are cargo planes. come on.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10 Malen, keep dancing. I love to see Argies dancing and making themselves look a tit with their mullets.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hector Timerman
Mar 16th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“HELLO IS THAT THE UN?”
“YES”
“IT'S ME HECTOR”
“YES”
“I'M CALLING ABOUT THE MALVINAS AGAIN”
Line drops
“HELLO, HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME?”
Aid “SIR I THINK IT'S TIME FOR YOUR MEDICATION”
Hector “I MUST GET IN TOUCH WITH THE UN AGAIN, I HAVE TO MENTION THE MALVINAS EVERY 5 MINUTES”
Aid “WHAT ABOUT ARGENTINA SIR”
Hector “ARGENTINA? ARE YOU STUPID! I REPRESENT THE MALVINAS, NOT ARGENTINA!!”
Sound of syringe going in. Aid drops to the floor.
“HELLO IS THAT THE UN?”
“YES”
oh if only we had such great leaders,
Mar 16th, 2012 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we would not be here would we,
a shame then mr camaron is to timid to get to hard.
More underwhelming support for Argentina from Chile then.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So where's this big announcement? Is it going to be similar to the facade that KFC did a couple of months ago when she called the entire world to tune into the Pink House and then just said exactly nothing before turning armed police onto the veterans' families who she especially invited?
Mar 16th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle
@Briton
Mar 16th, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He cannot be hard because is aware of the poor situation of MGB and he is regretting his “period” statement.
He also is aware that things can goes nasty with Argentina so he has to go to USA master UK puppeteer to see if someone can give any sign of backing to UK, because he knows he is along.
USA it is a difficult position because while doesn’t want to upset UK ally in middle east oil adventure, cannot give explicit support to them without upsetting SA. Because since Bush administration US friends in the regions have being reduced to nothing.
Any official attempt buy US to back Britain in anyway will be seen as a direct threat to the whole region and can replicate Venezuela effect aka Russian Chinese supplying dangerous weapons what will increase influence by R&C in the region.
What can be described as the perfect geopolitical storm just to back an ally that want to play the colonialist in modern time.
My Yank friend says that British are so stupid if they think that USA will back UK in any new adventure in the south Atlantic.
Now keep going guys we are just having a lot of laugh and for free.
Malen - you really do show how dumb you are! Yes we do know what a cargo plane is! Evidently you have no idea what a container cargo ship is!! You get a lot more tractors and apples etc on one of those for a lot less money than you can fly here idiot!
Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For your Info:
We get TWO cargo/container ships a month from UK and rest of the world including containers from South America.
We get THREE passenger and cargo flights a week from overseas - one from Chile andtwo from Britain. Then there is a further flight from London every second week and a freight aircraft every 4 weeks.
That is not bad for a country with a population of 3000!!
In addition- if required - we now have access to cargo flights from South America - which avoid Arg airspace - if we require them.
Better to wait for the statement before getting the Malvanistas wound up.
Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0,. 19 DanyBerger
Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our leader may be soft, we admit that, but don’t think we are weak,
The American will back the British when the time comes,
In the mean time she sits on the fence,
I personally think obarmy is a disgrace to Britain,, Cameron if he was a real bloody man, should have told barmy, no backy for Falklands, no backy for Iran, its that simple,
So yes the Americans should tell the world she backs us, and stop giving dictatorships like CFK a good name,
But come November, obarmy will be gone, and things will change,
In the meantime we just have to put up with mr anti brit obarmy,
But please make no mistake, the British can and will stand alone,
And we are big enough , and powerful enough to deal with Argentina and its friends if required,
I just wish they would get on with it,
But truthfully , it may annoy us that the government seems to do nothing, but our history teatches us, that to be ready, is to be prepared,
To be mouthy and a bragger, is to be humiliated, when it backfires, and it will
CFK will ruin Argentina and destroy its credibility for decades to come,
And guess what [Danny] the islands will still be British, because nothing she does can change the status quo,,,the brits will always come out on top .
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There is no government in Malvinas, only colonial pirates who have great big hand of Britain in their backsides.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0They must be removed from these islands, which belong to Argentina even before Argentina exist, it was taken from them. This and also by grace of God and Papal Bull of 1496!
In 1982 we have a much more macho government than today, we had a man in charge and no ordinary man, he was a General, from Italy, same country my grandparents came from, fleeing from British and American Imperialists after WW2 (it would take several generations and Berlusconi to put right what they did to Italy).
General Galtieri did not take no for an answer, he sent a great military force with special forces under command of our counter terrorist officers like Captain Alfredo Astiz, who is now in prison and should be freed!
These were the men who removed 50,000 left wing terrorists from our streets and delivered them into the Atlantic. We are proud that they had the guts to do what was necessary.
But today I listen to the BBC and it seems there are more left wing in our nation. I am in The Bahamas at the moment working in hotel so out of touch with my country. It seems all the strong people leave and only weak left remain.
But still there are veterans prepared to attack the police for medals for Malvinas War as they protected Patagonia from a British invasion, they deserve these medals, Police should not keep them from them.
Pirates and Anglos i hate all of you. Even here in the Bahama, have to put up with your Royal family, Prince Harry and the descendants of your Caribbean pirates some of which now Mullatos but others prefer stay white. I myself do not like. Or the children of British colonial pirates!
GO HOME BEFORE WE SEND YOU TO YOUR HOMES.
@13 malen,
Mar 17th, 2012 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina drove on the left until 1945.
What does it matter which side we drive on?
When l learned to drive l drove all over the road!(only joking).
Has anyone looked at importing cars from South Africa or Australia?
@7 Anti-Fascist,
l believe malen is female, so probably doesn't have those vices.
@briton
Mar 17th, 2012 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good desiring thinking but reality tells another thing. As I said before any support from US to UK will jeopardise the whole region in geopolitical terms for US.
“But please make no mistake, the British can and will stand alone,
And we are big enough , and powerful enough to deal with Argentina and its friends if required,”
Unfortunately I have to disappoint you, because Argentina cans defeat UK in a new war if its what you are thinking on. You maybe can resort to US help in armament, logistic sat imaginary, etc. But Argentina will use all help from Russia, China and Venezuela in this case. What will reduce your military power to a mosquito in the SA.
And please don’t start with your nukes because you perfectly know that they are out of discussion even US will kick your ass because this will allow Argentina to pull out of the anti-proliferation NW treaty thing that will drive US crazy especially with UK.
As I told you many time before your Cameron is playing with fire and UK will get hardly burn.
And history is just history doesn’t tell what will be the future and least with a country like Argentina. You know this 1806/1807, etc.
So be a good British drink a cup of tea and continue seeing coronation street old episodes on your telly set made in Taiwan. : )
23 Flippo
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did someone just show you copy and paste? Get back to those dishes.
Chuckle chuckle.
Wow Dany at it again? Russia and China to support Argentina that is some fantasy you have.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly that would never happen as that would most likely cause world war 3 given the UK's support from the US/EU/NATO.
Argentina simply has zero chance of winning a war against the UK hence the reason it will not invade. The British military strength is about 10 times that of Argentina, the British have battle proven soldiers and equipment that is so far ahead of Argentina I don't know where to even start.
The British warships can target your planes as soon as they take-off, their aircraft can shoot yours out of the sky a long way before the Argentine planes can get in range and the British submarines can reduce your military bases to rubble with this cruise missiles.
It would be a bloodbath for Argentina and one I personally hope we will never see.
@27
Mar 17th, 2012 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely the most pacific solution would be to wait for the argies to act, then immediately sink all their ships at harbour, take out all their airforce, wipe the army out and then just sit there whistling the National Anthem of the Falklands(God save the queen).
Then just wait another 30 years and repeat.
Danny B - what are you smoking! You really think China and Russia would intervene militarily on Arg side if there ever was another war here? Face facts please:
Mar 17th, 2012 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 01 If there ever was (and it is very very unlikley at present) It would only be as a result of Arentina firing the first shot or launching a clear attack
that would thus be repulsed.
2. That action would thus show internationally that Argentina (yet again) is the Agressor.
3. Russia and China are level headed nations - they are not going to militarily back a clear agressor! After all they did not even use their vetoes in the UN in 1982!! Did that not tell you something?
4,Venezuela - perhaps - who knows - he is a lunatic anyway at times. BUT it is one thing to have a whole load of weapons - it is ANOTHER to actually have the skill and PRACTICE and EXPERIENCE in knowing who to use them.
5 If Chaves was that stupid - you can take it for granted the US would indeed side with UK, and sort him - bigtime!
So it is simply NOT going to happen The only way it would was if UK withdrerw their current forces from the Islands - then I agree - your side could just walk in again. BUT that is why UK maintains the current force levels here - to stop Arg from any idea of walking in again.
It is as simple as that - and very effective.
The Military option is NOT available to Argentina any more. The Diplomatic one seems to be crumbling around your ears the more frantic and ridiculous CFK and Timmermans Speeches get! meanwhile we go from strength to strength economically here.
Did anyone hear the joint Chilean / Argentine announcement? I haven't heard squat. Maybe KFC realised there was nothing to say this time. Unlike last time when she make a speech that took almost an hour to say nothing.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle.
Chile - a moderately friendly South American country with a head of state with a bit of common sense.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina - a country run by despotic people fresh out of Nazi Comedy school.
@Islander1 & Xect
Mar 17th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 01- Russia already had done so in 1982, I mean offered Arms and logistic support to Argentina, thing that by ideological reason the Military Junta (communist hunters) refused.
2- China and Russia will be more than happy to provide military weapons and other assistance to Argentina if needed, like they have done to Venezuela. Its just what Argentina what to do, and US or anyone in this world can prevent that like happened in Venezuela.
3- The Islands possible commercial oil can be profitable if Argentina provides logistic to the islands, China need oil and for them is much preferable to be in the hands of Argentina than UK. Argentina can make any deal with China or Russia to especial concessions after all Argentina is getting nothing with this “status quo” so giving attractive concession to China will be a gain to Argentina.
So China helps Argentina to trash the Brits and US and they will get a special concession for some area to extract all the oil they want in the Islands. That will be a huge incentive to China to deliver all her military strength and support in case someone like Uncle Sam wants to partner with UK.
USA is aware of this possible scenario so better to be neutral like in the Suez Canal when US told Britain that the old days of British Empire have gone. And became the puppeteer of UK since then.
32 DanyBerger
Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''So China helps Argentina to trash the Brits and US''??
You appear to be saying that China will start WW3 over Falklands oil.
You complete and utter tool.
Rockhopper is planning to suck out the oil, put it straight onto ships amd drive it anywhere in the world that wants to buy it.
No need for Argentina, or a war. Sorry old bean.
@32DanyBerger,
Mar 17th, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At the moment we can easily handle any mischief that your silly country gets up to.
The future?
lf things change, then you will try again. Maybe this time you won't make the stupid mistakes you made in 1982.
Thats why l don't underestimate you & l don't underestimate your hatred.
That is why l say to my countrymen, we must be prepare, we must NEVER let our guard down.
That is why l do not trust anything that you do or say.
For example, if l were in government, l would not let any Argentines come to these lslands.
Would make an exception for the relatives of the buried soldiers, but thats all.
lf any Argentine plane entered our airspace it would be shot down.
We need a cordon sanitare.
We can't go far wrong if we treat any statement made by Argentina as a lie.
DannyB - as above - the Islands do NOT - repeat NOT need any Argentine logistics to extract oil.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NO assistance has been neccessary during exploration - which continues. The method that would be used for extraction is standard practise offshore in several parts of the world.
The ONLY difference is that without Argentina it costs a bit more to do - that is all.
So due to Arg policy we have UK and the Islands getting 100% of ALL the exploration work employments and supplies - ands South America gets 0%!! Well done Argentina - the oil boys from Scotland are very gratefull to you for all the jobs and business!!
Do not forget - there are NO Unilateral operations going on - there WAS an International Agreement on Hydrocarbons between ARg-UK and FI - then Arg walked out in 2007 and tore it up!
All we have done is carry it on ourselves - more fool Arg for walking out!
Just the same as you did with Fisheries in the South West Atlantic!
Well you guy, if that is what Danny believes, then nothing will persuade him differently,
Mar 17th, 2012 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So let’s look at his facts,
China and Russia can and will come to argentines aid,
The Americans will our arse, and Hugo the bear, will pay for the lot,
North Korea [you forgot this one Danny]
Will almost certainly back china,
Now to be fair to him, and im sure that all brits will agree, that with such a powerful array of countries and weapons ranged against us,
The Great Britain, has no choice but to immediately remove its sorry ass, out of the Falklands,
The islander we suggest had better leg it to the hills, and Argentina represented by CFK and her government, followed by her loyal and hardest bloggers, [and of course Danny]
Will be arriving in the Falklands islands, by tomorrow morning then,
And the islands will be argentine, and Britain will crawl back to its little island quacking in its boots hoping and preying that these powerful countries don’t gut very upset and attack the British main land,
So that’s it then, the islands will be argentine in say, 12 hours from now then,
Now lets all come back tomorrow and see if anything has changed,
And guess what?? And for Danny ?? Perhaps he will entertain us again ??
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I would consider that China & Russia are quite capable of mischief making in the South Atlantic with, particularly China eyeing up the resources that they would dearly like to get their hands on. You only really need to watch a little bit of state controlled tv in the form of RT television to see where the Russians stand on all things anti-western. A little future stirring in the background does seem a possibility. Provision of weapons is one thing, satellite intelligence, etc...although I would doubt that there would be any military forces other than perhaps advisors. There is of course one sure way to prevent this possibility from occurring and that is by Britain not offering any window of opportunity. We need to be sure in ourselves knowing that British presence in the islands is, to anyone who takes just a short time to research the matter, quite clearly legitimate. Of course, maintaining sufficient strength to ensure that any external mischief making will ultimately be ineffective is the key to the matter.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does anyone think that the lack of development in the Falkland Islands is a bit of a handicap to the cause? No doubt the islanders wish not to lose what must now be a fairly unique lifestyle but often in the propaganda against them is this underdeveloped / less than 3000 people tag. Perhaps with oil exploration will come some opportunity to develop in certain ways and dispel any misconceptions of lack of permanence.
“So China helps Argentina to trash the Brits and US and they will get a special concession for some area to extract all the oil they want in the Islands. ”
Mar 18th, 2012 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You actually think, and believe that china gives a crap enough about the islands to risk a potential world war three?
Grow up.
At the end this visit came up without pain nor glory. Also argentinians ministers were told to easy up restrictions on chilean exports because “Guillermo Moreno” ´s methods (lobbying case to case), obviously a corruption prone method, are not acceptable any more.
Mar 18th, 2012 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@zethe
Mar 18th, 2012 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What WWIII? Just a war over the Islands that’s all. Like in the old good days but with some weapons made in China and Russia in the case US partner with Britain in supplying weapons, etc.
Don't you want to confirm how strong is your Army to defend the Islands?
Well there you go,
Mar 19th, 2012 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It’s Monday and the islands are still British, apparently the royal navy defeated the Russians and china and the USA and all of south American,
Oh shit lets just say the world,
Guess what Danny, we can all dream cant we,,
but facts are fact, and the fact is, the islands are British, and will remain British until the freely vote otherwise, and the greedy government of CFK will not get them, not now or ever, so if you Argies want to have any self respect, then we suggest you just give up, and understand you cannot have what you don’t own, full stop.
DannyBerger
Mar 20th, 2012 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only a total fucking idiot likes war, you must be off your tiny little head, you clearly have no concept what being in a war is like. Perhaps you should talk to some of your veterans, I'm sure they would be only to happy to enlighten you. I'ts a fact of life that those who shout the loudest for war, are not the poor bastards who have to fight and die in it.
he is not the only deluded argie that thinks war is for fun,their are a few that would condem us all to death, yet will run and cry when the shooting starts, always claiming they want peace, or hide away in the states,
Mar 20th, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK must have done a good job on this bunch,
war is evil , bloody , and a killer of innocent people.
but will he and others understand that,
i doubt it, judging by there threats and abuse of us .
Yes DanyBerger, you do seem overly enthusiastic about the prospects of future conflict. Is that really what you want...? I hope not.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@reality check
Mar 20th, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“have no concept what being in a war is like.. I'm sure they would be only to happy to enlighten you”
Oh! Yes people get kill, mutilated, burned badly, some get traumatic post war syndrome, some kill themselves, another end up addicts to alcohol and heavy drugs. Did I forget something?
But wars sometimes cannot be avoided and sometimes they are necessaries. Is part of the history of many nations and always will be wars. Human being is like this.
“. I'ts a fact of life that those who shout the loudest for war, are not the poor bastards who have to fight and die in it.”
And what is your problem? Are you not sure gonna win? Are you not sure to fight for a justa Cause? Are you not sure CaMoron is right? Are you not sure that the islands have to be defended at all cost?
So don’t worry if you die in a war will be for your country, to defend the right of your people, etc. Or may be because you where in the wrong place. Ha ha
So all British on the street will be grateful for your scarify like these people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR3FwTtBVjk
“. I'ts a fact of life that those who shout the loudest for war, are not the poor bastards who have to fight and die in it
Mar 20th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[you said it] and you wont .
And what is your problem? Are you not sure going to win
[again a very silly remark]
You are the nation with something to prove, [not us]
So don’t worry if you die in a war will be for your country, to defend the right of your people, etc. Or may be because you where in the wrong place. Ha ha
So 44 Chatcat , he was right , was he not,
Only children think war is a joke, but you may well get your wish Danny, but it will not be with the British, that you fight,, but almost certainly yourselves.
For it is CFK and her deluded loyal followers, that will follow her to hell,
To you innocence is just a by word, is it not.
You must be very insecure and lonely to have thoughts like that,
Is violence all you CFK supporters think off .
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Amnesty - Argentina's 10% Amerindian population subject to racist violence, discrimination and imprisonment in THEIR OWN LAND - http://laht.com/article.asp?articleid=355829&categoryid=14093
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