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UK accuses Argentina of intimidating Falklands and promises help for oil companies

Friday, March 16th 2012 - 08:41 UTC
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Britain has accused Argentina of illegally intimidating and attempting to damage the economic livelihoods of the Falkland Islands residents after the Foreign minister vowed legal action against oil companies involved in the Falklands oil industry. Read full article

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  • Teaboy2

    I think its time we took argentina to task at the UN, and via the ICJ if argentina again refuse to resolve the dispute at the ICJ it will show to the world that it knows its claim will fail. Oh how embarrassing that would be for argentina. ;-)))

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @1 Things to remember:
    a) We don't recognise anything that happened before 1970 at the ICJ
    b) We offered to take the dispute over the other South Atlantic islands to the ICJ 4 times and Argentina refused, stating that the ICJ had no jurisdiction.
    c) UK doesn't even have a Sovereignty issue over the falklands. Only Argentina does.

    The status quo is that we protect the islands and they have freedom, and self determination. So if you took them to the ICJ based on Falklands Sovereignty, you'd be playing into their hands by entering into negotiations on sovereignty by proxy.

    Better just watch the Argentinians get more and more desperate, as they run out of nag-options... then eventually they'll take the military route, again.... then we'll tame their arses, again.

    Best thing to do is to ignore them, they're only going to get more embarrassing as they run out of ideas.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    @1 You're absolutely right, except that it seems the Argentine government is quite shameless and unlikely to feel embarrassed in the way a civilised administration would. Argentina has been humiliated in the eyes of the world so often by its governments that a state of perpetual humiliation is just accepted as normal.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    So is Timmerman coming to London to present the case himself to the courts?

    That would be a lot of fun.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @2 Ahhhh but they would also be on the back foot as it was them that refused our 4 previous offers to take the matter to the ICJ and it would be argentina that would have to proof its claim to the islands since they are the ones claiming them whilst britain actually has sovereignty over them. They would also have to explain how britian is in breach of UN resolution 2065 when it was argentina that tore up the joint exploration and fisheries agreements that were agreed as a direct result of negotiations under the very UN resolutions that they falsely claim we have not or are not complying with. And then they would have to explain their actions in convention to the islands human rights and right to not have a foreign state attempt to interfere with their economy, which itself is a breach of international law and UN Charter. I can see it being very costly to argentina if they did agree to goto ICJ and very costly and embarrassing if they refused, because if they refused then all the hard work they have done trying to drum up internation support will have been for nothing as all those that showed support would withdraw support on the basis that argentina themselves do not feel they have a strong enough claim to win at the ICJ.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @5 I can see what you're saying but, we eventually took it unilaterally to the UN but Argentina refused blank to be involved. They claimed the ICJ had no jurisdiction over them and the case clearly fell apart.

    They always say we ignore resolutions but we don't. We even invited the head of their beloved C24 to come to Falklands and see for himself what it was like and how it was now self-governing, and the Marmierdans kicked up a fuss and it didn't happen.

    Argentina is just like a spoiled child who wants a toy that doesn't belong to them. So the best thing you can do is keep feeding them Sunny Delight until they explode.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anti-Fascist

    6 GreekYoghurt

    The best thing to do would be for the British government to constantly and repeatedly underline all these facts again and again, issuing statements and press releases on the subject to UK and international media.

    As the World Service broadcast underlines yesterday, most Argentines are decent people, they are just being lied to about the islands and Argentina right to them on a constant basis. This situation isn't helped by the British media, with the Guardian constantly rubbishing the islands and the Telegraph running a poll that only Argentines could access, stating quote: “Should the Falklands be Returned to Argentina” - the Falklands have NEVER been under Argentine sovereignty so how the f*** could they be returned? And against the wishes of the population! one of the most incredibly ridiculous polls I've ever heard of. They may just as well ran a poll saying “Should the United States Return California to Britain?”.

    The British government is taking the same line on Argentina as they have on Zimbabwe and look where that left the people who live there, especially those of British origin. Being walked all over isn't much of a defence against being walked all over. The matter needs to be vigorously defended and the British government need to take the offense.

    Taking it on the chin - makes us look as if we don't have a case or don't care.

    One solution to the problem would be for the Falklands to be made part of the UK, the same as French Guiana is part of France.

    It is also quite clear to me, reading the signs, that all this is leading up to Argentina staging an incident in the Falklands, in order to try and get the issue into the international arena. Both the islands government and Britain need to be aware that such a move is highly likely and it needs to go horribly wrong for them.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    I think the only problem with going to the ICJ apart from Greeks point about talking sovereignty by proxy is that Argentina will only accept an outcome in their favour.

    I mean that if, as expected, the ICJ ruled in favour of the UK and the FI the Argentines would take not the slightest bit of notice. They would continue 'as is' as though no ruling had been made at all. As though the ICJ had no jurisdiction on the matter.

    In the eyes, the mind and the heart of a Malvinista the ICJ, the UN and any other international body has jurisdiction if and only if they rule in favour of Argentina with regard to the Falkland Islands.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    ”a) We don't recognise anything that happened before 1970 at the ICJ”

    This is simply not true ελληνικό γιαούρτι. For disputes which arose after the 1st Jan 1974 the UK will accept the ICJ's jurisdiction automatically. For disputes which arose before that date the UK will decide on a case by case basis.

    http://www.icj-cij.org/jurisdiction/index.php
    p1=5&p2=1&p3=3&code=GB

    Argentina does not accept the ICJ's jurisdiction automatically under any circumstances.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fermin

    I think that in fact are the Oil Companies the ones giving help to politicians many times... no?

    According to John Fowler (Penguien-News), oil companies usually have more power than Governments; this is what I heard him say at an interview, speaking in quite a very good spanish I must say.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @9 Thanks for the clarification. I dare say I wasn't too far from the truth, but of course I'd say that.

    The underlying fact is that the Marmierdans refuse to accept ANY judgement or resolution from either the UNSCR or the ICJ.

    Then can someone enlighten me as to why are they talking about UN General Assembly Resolutions as if they were law, when they categorically don't give a hoot about what the UN thinks?

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    They are also ignoring two binding ICSID arbitration awards in favour of US companies. When the US government raises this with them, the answer is that the US companies should enforce the judgments against the Argentinian government in the Argentinian courts. Not surprisingly, as they have no illusions about the independence of the Argentinian courts, the US companies see no point in wasting money on this exercise! Basically, the Argentinian Government can't give a damn about the “rule of law”.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    It isn't what is being said that matters to the Argentine government rather than what they are hearing.

    Back in 1940 Hugh Dowding was told of a report in the American press stating the German view that the claims made by the RAF about how many Luftwaffe aircraft they were shooting down had been wildly exaggerated . Dowding said that if the British claims were anywhere near accurate then the Luftwaffe would give up. If they were not then the Nazis would be marching up Whitehall within a week.

    My point being that if Argentina is right about how much support they have and their legal position is unassailable then talking about it is pointless. They will get the islands eventually, it would be just a matter of time.

    On the other hand. If they are wrong..........................

    Draw your own conclusions.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Argentina hasn't yet made a case for claiming the oxygen (breathable air) over, in, and around the Falklands.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    That will be the next 'gambit' then.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    Argentina finally has realised that “ The pen is mightier than the sword”
    Taking legal action is a brilliant idea.If they win the court case the oil
    companies will have to pay out millions in compensation to Argentina.
    I bet this multinationals are thinking twice of drilling in the Falklands.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    16(#) and If they lose (which they will lose) more humiliation for the CFK government and then hopefully the neighbours surrounding them will finally find their spine and stop supporting the ridiculous claim.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Is there actually anything to which argieland has a valid claim? The territory currently referred to as “argentina” was obtained by theft, murder and genocide. Is this a valid “claim”? If argieland says that Britain only has a “claim” to the Falkland Islands, what then of argie “claims” to “argentina”? If argieland can raise issues that occurred 202 years ago, what is to stop Britain raising issues that occurred 500 years ago? Even for events 30 years ago, at least 40 million argies could be indicted. Let's face it, argies are psychotic, mendacious, murdering, genocidal, thieving dog-breaths.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    16 - If they win the court case in Argentina which inevitably they will in a corrupt state the oil companies can simply ignore their declarations if they do not trade in Argentina and if they do, then simply they will stop.

    Or they could alternatively try to bring a court case against them in the UK whose jurisdiction the oil companies are working under and you can imagine the outcome since they have breached no law or rule.

    Another fantastic own goal that once again pushes foreign investment out of Argentina and Argentinian's wonder why their economy is yet again in its final stages of collapse.

    This in the real world will not change anything.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    There is nothing ridiculous in standing up for what you believe.
    Winning or loosing does not matter.It is the principal of applying THROUGH THE COURTS which will make Argentina respected through out theworld. Public opinion is slowly going against the UK.The ball is in their court let us see if they pick that ball up and goal or miss.The UK has a lot of experience in negotiating as it has done through out so many centuries. They are not “new kids on the block” their experience will surely shine through.May the Lord´s presence guide these two nations to safe ports and not to the world of destruction.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Aussie there is nothing wrong with standing up for what you believe in but a nation targeting companies is going to worsen the opinion the international community has on Argentina.

    What they are looking to do is to bully those doing business with the UK as they are 'easier' targets and this is no different to the bullying of the islanders.

    If they want to be respected they need to take the UK government to court, anything less will appear to everyone in the international community as simply more aggressive intimidation by the Argentine government.

    Can they not understand how much economic damage this is going to cause them? I mean Argentina has a terrible reputation for foreign investment hence the 9 billion that fled the country in the first half of last year alone and the policies CFK has put in place to keep money in the country.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @20 Not-aussie, to which courts are you referring ? and which law have these companies broken?

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    20 aussie sunshine

    A good example of believing what you want to believe and hearing what you want to hear.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @23 He doesn't seem to say where all this court action is going on. Neither does goldtimermanberg? So if he was taking questions on the night, why didn't someone ask him under which jurisdiction are the law suits going to be submitted and which law is broken?

    At least goldtimermanberg managed to produce a slightly more fact related slide deck, but slide 7 is a complete furkshow... just arrows and circles and arrows and circles.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    #20

    What do you mean by “the courts”?

    The only courts which Argentina could take these trumped up cases to would be their own courts, as the only alleged illegal act is against Argentinian law.

    In any event, there are no “laws” which have been broken: you have to realise that Argentina has no jurisdiction over the Falklands, so the “laws” which have allegedly been broken are invalid under international law, so the whole exercise would be no more than a propaganda farce.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jayD

    20 aussie sunshine

    What part of Australia are you from? I'm in Perth.

    Either way, you obviously not Australian if you are supporting Argentina, no one I know would take that line. They invaded the Falklands in 1982 under a fascist dictator, who had murdered tens of thousands of his own people and disposed of them in unmarked graves. That they are still claiming the Falklands and looking back on those days through rose tinted glasses is disgusting.

    I spent 5 years in Argentina and a year in the Falklands and I would choose the Falklands time and time again over Argentina. Their country was chaotic, people were living on the street, riots everyday, police beating protesters to death every day, this was 2002!

    Argentina has no claim on the Falkland Islands, they have never had sovereignty of the islands. Their claim of 1823 predates the founding of their country. The original claim was relinquished in 1850, 25 years before the Province that now claims them was settled and became a part of Argentina. The new claim was dug up under a fascist military junta.

    http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/

    When the facts are revealed Argentina looks like a tin pot fascist dictatorship.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tommy

    Hitler vs Cristina Kirchner

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcyXnlVNMSQ&skipcontrinter=1

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-32-uk

    @7 Can the Falklands be made part of the UK?

    I know the Hawaiian Islands are an American State even though they are 2000 miles away from the US mainland, I guess the Falklands islands could be a similar thing.

    Can anyone with more knowledge on this issue advice?

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    SORRY LADS
    UK accuses uk accuses the uk accuses the uk accuses,
    Why don’t the fxcking UK get of its fxucking lazy arses and do something, instead of looking like a complete fool in from of a complete idiot like CFK,
    Sorry, but ?/?
    .

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @27 Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck.. it's a duck.

    @28 Yes, technically they can. They're already British Citizens and they're governed by their own constitution, so I'm not sure other than regarding military why they would need it. The falklands lobby in the UK is pretty huge anyways, so they're well covered.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    yes but we cant go on like this forever can we,
    something has to be done about argentina,
    she just cant go on abusing and intimidating the falklands, with nothing more than a word or so from our own goverment,
    we are allaware that they can do nothing, and we can beet them, but it is the impression she is giving the world, that she can do as she pleases,
    and so can other dictators,

    surley the time will come when we say, enough is enough.
    just enough thought .

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    I go along with just about everything said here, except for the statement of JD@26 that “police beating protesters to death every day, this was 2002!” Not true in 2002, only a few were shot, in one instance; people were not being beaten to death every day.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    #31 - Its probably best for the UK government to adopt a tone of superior detachment and let Mrs K and her minions rant away: look what happened when Spain tried to play them at their own game:

    La advertencia hecha por el rey Juan Carlos, en el sentido de que la estatización de YPF obligaría a España a recomendar que Argentina sea expulsada del G-20, no causó la menor impresión en las autoridades del país sudamericano. La guerra de desgaste iniciada por el gobierno de Cristina Kirchner para que Repsol se retire de la empresa hispano-argentina, sigue su curso.

    “The warning by King Juan Carlos, to the effect that the nationalisation of YPF would lead Spain to call for Argentina to be thrown out of the G20 made no impression on the government of the latin american country. The war of attrition started by Mrs K's government to force Repsol to pull out [of YPF] carries on.”

    In fact, its just hotted up significantly with YPF being deprived, almost certainly illegally, of several drilling licences.

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    I doubt very much whether the likes of BP or Shell would give a dam.

    Fitch: Argentina's credit rating is 'heavily constrained by inconsistent policies' Policies that have accelerated economic volativity.

    What next?

    Which way will they go?

    Into the abyss...

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    @31 briton

    it can go on forever - at least that's what the Argentine government hopes.

    Every time Argentina faces a serious crisis the cry “Malvinas Argentinas!” is heard. The worst thing that could happen to the Argentine government is that the UK and the Falklanders hand the islands over to Argentina - what then to cry to distract the Argentinian people at the event of the next crisis?

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Let's commit to killing at least one argie every day. Wherever. Do you know of an argie? Do what you have you to do!

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Thanks guys,
    No doubt the government has something up its sleeve,
    I just cant wait for her to fall, before she is pushed,

    Has an argie leader ever been assassinated while in office,
    Just an interesting thought,

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    @36 how about commiting a killing of one “ conqueror” per day?

    Mar 17th, 2012 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Filippo

    There is no government in Malvinas, only colonial pirates who have great big hand of Britain in their backsides.

    They must be removed from these islands, which belong to Argentina even before Argentina exist, it was taken from them. This and also by grace of God and Papal Bull of 1496!

    In 1982 we have a much more macho government than today, we had a man in charge and no ordinary man, he was a General, from Italy, same country my grandparents came from, fleeing from British and American Imperialists after WW2 (it would take several generations and Berlusconi to put right what they did to Italy).

    General Galtieri did not take no for an answer, he sent a great military force with special forces under command of our counter terrorist officers like Captain Alfredo Astiz, who is now in prison and should be freed!

    These were the men who removed 50,000 left wing terrorists from our streets and delivered them into the Atlantic. We are proud that they had the guts to do what was necessary.

    But today I listen to the BBC and it seems there are more left wing in our nation. I am in The Bahamas at the moment working in hotel so out of touch with my country. It seems all the strong people leave and only weak left remain.

    But still there are veterans prepared to attack the police for medals for Malvinas War as they protected Patagonia from a British invasion, they deserve these medals, Police should not keep them from them.

    Pirates and Anglos i hate all of you. Even here in the Bahama, have to put up with your Royal family, Prince Harry and the descendants of your Caribbean pirates some of which now Mullatos but others prefer stay white. I myself do not like. Or the children of British colonial pirates!

    GO HOME BEFORE WE SEND YOU TO YOUR HOMES.

    Mar 17th, 2012 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Harry Stamper

    # Flipflop (39) - What are you twittering about ?? Perhaps you should pull on your jack boots and just strut back to Argentina and offer your support to Mrs K

    Mar 17th, 2012 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cero

    or perhaps you should put on your skirts and go to lick the ass of cameron, to Europe where you belong, and stop to occupy the usurped islands

    Mar 17th, 2012 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @26 jay D,
    “aussie sunshine” is not Australian,
    l exposed him/her/it a few weeks back, but l see it has returned.
    My guess is an English speaking RG, who has read up on Aussie slang, which he tried to put over us.
    His use of slang was all out of context & l've never heard Aussies using it the way he did.
    Maybe now, its another personality(RG Agent?) using his nom de plume.
    My family lived in lndonesia for a few years & we used to go to Perth on our hols.
    We stayed with friends at Mosman Park.
    l remember as a child going into the city by train. l was about 7 or 8.
    We also toured the south-west, l remember the huge trees.
    Loved the icecream & Dad said that the beer was great!
    Will have to come back for a visit one day.

    Mar 17th, 2012 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    42 lsolde:

    His English is good for an Argentinian, but he's certainly not an Australian.

    Mar 17th, 2012 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-32-uk

    @42 i suspected that.
    I heard that rumour too, that the Argentine govt employ people to post propaganda on the internet.

    Mar 17th, 2012 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @44 - Not all are employed, as they could not find enough argentines that supported their claim over the islands, so they, as is evident by some of the retarded posts, such as Flipflops, gave the job to mentall retarded and institutionalised argentines as a rehabilitation course lol ;-)))))

    Mar 17th, 2012 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @44 Chinese have a massive group of paid online police and propaganda folk. Ban Ki moon's fun home folk, the South Koreans also do this. But they have a group of lonely men who work for VANK (Voluntary Access Network Korea) and they go around harassing people into calling the 'Sea of Japan' something like 'Sea of K-pop and everyone loves south korea'. If they weren't so pathetic, they'd be hilarious.

    let's see if we can get some commenting here, they're easy to find:

    SEA OF JAPAN IS CORRECT.
    IT'S THE SEA OF JAPAN
    SEA OF JAPAN IS RIGHT
    TAKESHIMA NOT DOKDO.

    There will be one along in a few minutes.

    Mar 17th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @38 You don't have the ability or the guts, convict. I can prove it. Would you like me to show you your guts?

    @39 Should we take your crazed comments one by one? No, why bother. How come you're in the Bahamas? I thought certifiable psychotics weren't allowed to travel. Still, while you're there, get that tongue out and keep licking those toilets. Or are you further down? The open mouth at the end of the sewage pipe? Keep swallowing. I trust you'll be walking “home” to argieland!

    @41 If you're an argie, you'd know more about being queer. That covers wearing a skirt and licking ass.

    Mar 17th, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @39 Papal bull - even when it was enacted England not a member of the pope fan club and complained. Sorry but the only time we in the UK would align with the pope would be if the man himself had landed on the Falklands, mapped the Falklands and claimed the Falklands and indeed populated the Falklands before the British. It carries no weight with us, might as well be a Musky Bull (me folks) claim by the grace of me.. to claim Argentina.

    I'm sorry Fillipo @39 but Italian roots. Don't you know that Italy was an war mongering axis power not an allied. The Italian mentality was the only reason your grandparents left homeland. British/America (and all our worthy allied forces) freed your country from the Il Duce and his cohorts. Italy is the country it is today because of the Allies. Italy is far better without Fascism. Ok so its finances are trouble but it'll win through.

    So @39 Fillipo, your descent into insult is truly sad but this is natural as your argument is weak but it matters not as you have learnt English, you listen to the BBC, are living in the Bahamas (which in itself may one day disconnect from the UK) so maybe the rubbish your brain has been fed all these years will be drowned out by the logic and legitimacy that is the Britains viewpoint. when it finally is, you'll feel as confident as us.

    Mar 18th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    Musky: He's a brit troll pretending to be Argentinian.

    Mar 18th, 2012 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • rebeldenacion

    Cristina Fernández de Kirchner the current disaster president of Argentina
    and the other Argentina crooks are her vice-president, Amado Boudou, he is actually an owner of the company that prints money for the government in Argentina, a major conflict of interest, but he denies it, he owns the company in the names of other friends and associates. He is being investigated and surely will end up in jail where he belongs. Cristinas 2 VERY UGLY children, Maximo and Florencia Kirchner, are also very corrupt. Maximo owns all kinds of hotels and properties adn Florencia is a film student in New York and lives in a luxury Park Avenue apartment and is known for major cocaine use. Some of us who know her in New York remember how she always used to tell us how her parents have a bank account drawn on the Nation of Argentina and for her family money is no object. These 2 corrupt children of Cristina Kirchner are self proclaimed “militants”, they belong to 2 internal terrorist groups which Cristina Kirchner finances, “La Cámpora” and “Quebracho”. “La Cámpora” goes around to the poor shantytowns around the cities in Argentina and gives the poor people a bag of groceries, a sausage sandwich called “choripan” and $20 pesos to buy their votes. These people have no choice but to accept this as they are extremely poor and have no other hope. “Quebracho” is a terrorist group which Cristina Kirchner pays to protect her, they disguise their faces and go around shaking down businesses to get money and give back to the president. They are also responsible for drug dealing, robberies and murders.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
    www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
    www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm

    Mar 19th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Legionario

    Argentina quiere ese trozo de patria llamada Malvinas que UK se las arrebató por la fuerza y sin derecho alguno en 1833.
    En esos años los malvinenses no existían, no existía Puerto Stanley, nunca flameó la bandera británica en la isla soledad, solo existía puerto Luis, autoridades argentinas, la bandera celeste y blanca y que representaba a que país le pertenecían las islas y se estaba poblandose de argentinos.

    No existe un elemento histórico en los archivos de UK que avale lo que afirman.
    Dan gracias cuando desde UK afirman algo que desde hace 47 años no lo pueden demostrar ante los foros internacionales para acabar de una vez con el reclamo argentino.
    Cameron afirma “que no tienen dudas”, pero es de la boca para afuera, de elementos históricos que avale ese argumento, no tienen nada, ningún experto británico en el tema lo pudo encontrar desde el primer documento de investigación que comenzó en 1910 y hasta hace muy poco siguieron teniendo dudas con su versión. Eso lo sabemos porque desde hace 179 años que los gobiernos de UK se vienen haciendo los tontos ante los reclamos de los gobiernos argentinos y hasta por temor de perder las islas rechazaron pedidos de arbitrajes internacionales invitados por la Argentina para resolver la disputa.

    UK cambia de argumentos cuando la evidencia histórica viene demoliendo sus argumentos originales.

    Mar 21st, 2012 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anti-Fascist

    Amnesty - Argentina's 10% Amerindian population subject to racist violence, discrimination and imprisonment in THEIR OWN LAND - http://laht.com/article.asp?articleid=355829&categoryid=14093

    Mar 22nd, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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