Uruguayan president Jose Mujica promised on Monday to ‘fight to the death’ for the future of Mercosur in spite of the fact that the group’s junior members Uruguay and Paraguay are suffering the most as Argentina and Brazil implement growing hurdles to trade. Read full article
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Mar 20th, 2012 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Damn, I thought he meant fight to the death literally, as in a Mujica V Turkeyneck UFC cage brawl. You just know the mad old bat would fight dirty though.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0If he were shoved into an arena armed with a sword and sheild he'd soon decide Mercosur wasn't worth fighting to the death for after all.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0fight to the death
Mar 20th, 2012 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Idiom
a) to engage in a battle that isn't finished until one opponent is dead.
b) to turn around and offer up your arse to your neighbour in order to be routinely sodomised, and love every minute of it.
I guess Mujica is going with definition two.
Mercosur is dead. That's what he is saying. When it comes to money the South Americans inevitably show their colours.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dead trading-furkshow is dead.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is how Cristina Kirchner the most corrupt president in all of South America and her cronies get into power:
Mar 20th, 2012 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
Hmmm, I wonder where Fido Dido is? His comments are always amusing. I guess he'll begin today by telling us how South America is a superpower!
Mar 20th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0To all my Brit friends.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is very easy to condemn Pepe for failing to cut the head off the Mad Bitch and for standing up to Brasil's trade rules (in response to the Mad Bitch), BUT I will ask you all just one question:
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
Considerations - 4.5M pop in Uruguay;
NO unique products of any sort that are rabidly in demand world-wide.
I look forward to your positive answers (no Conqueroresque ones please).
Diving Excursions to the Graf Spee are all that spring to mind - but I don't suppose that could fund a nation.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just continue to do what your nation has experience in and aim to do it better than others in the region. Go for quality rather than quantity to attract premium prices.
Sounds like Mercosur is not producing the level playing field that was to be expected. Its value in this aspect must be diminishing whereas its strength as as stick for use only by the big boys Argentina and Brazil must be increasing. Mercosur needs to evaluate its roll and reflect the wishes of all its members.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9 I would redefine what my country did. So that it fulfills some kind of purpose. You cannot be such a small country and claim to do everything. Just look at Singapore, they only try to do a few things well.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 09. Solely align with Brazil and give up on anything to do with Argentina. What Uruguay should have done when Arg blocked the bridge over the Botnia plant was to nationalize all Arg bank accounts and property as compensation for their lost trade. That would have destroyed the Ks years ago but it's too late now. Uruguay has more power than it thinks it does. It is also a USA favorite and has our strong backing. they should use it to their advantage.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9 I'm going to agree with you on that front. There is no way that such a toxic relationship with Argentina is going to be able to assist in sizeable growth. Regardless of their missed opportunity last time, there will clearly be other opportunities to seek compensation for Argentinian behaviour. You just need someone with the Kahunas to do so.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Therein lies the problem.
5,000 Nazis went to RG land after WW2:
Mar 20th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117093/Secret-files-reveal-9-000-Nazi-war-criminals-fled-South-America-WWII.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
@15 the children of which are in power as we speak. However, KFC likes to accuse other people of being Nazi, without clearly understanding that her political ideology is based upon the teachings of napoleon and hitler.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you want to discuss on Nazis first you should declare your own ethnic identity without fearing.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17 Nazism is a political ideology based around socialism, expansionism and agreessive nationalism. Hence it is a shortened version of national socialism.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's that got to do with ethnicity? furktard.
@ 18 stelyo
Mar 20th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The books says like you...in reality ? ...I doubt on it ..
Ethnicity?..the discussion focus will be different if you are Jew,......
@15
Mar 20th, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9136145/War-criminal-Joseph-Lissa-wins-right-to-stay-in-Britain.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9136145/War-criminal-Joseph-Lissa-wins-right-to-stay-in-Britain.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9136145/War-criminal-Joseph-Lissa-wins-right-to-stay-in-Britain.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9136145/War-criminal-Joseph-Lissa-wins-right-to-stay-in-Britain.html
You are indeed a society of a bunch of Bastards and Execrables. :(
@ 20
Mar 20th, 2012 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you have any independent sources and documents ?
Sources for what? That the UK and US have amongst their population Bastards and Execrables like the Nazis. What more proof than the infallible media of those countries AND government documents AND independent investigators AND international rights groups AND just common sense?
Mar 20th, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Soviet Union would have landed first on the moon if it wasn't for the good ol USA getting into bed with the Nazis. It should have been Swastika and not the stars and stripes there, would have only been fair.
@22 well if you hadn't have got into bed with the Nazis, which you did, then you'd still be in a terrible hell hole driven by corruption and the mafia.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So tobias, you're in Le Camping, so tell us... where did the $2.1 Billion go that Maximo's Hitler Youth were given to renew your airline fleet go?
Did it go on electoral fraud, like everyone is suggesting? or did it go into a numbered swiss bank account? or just down the sofa?
Greek, I'm not here to answer for the Ks or for the past. The nazi issue, AGAIN, was brought up by a Brit, the cestrian, in a topic about Mercosur and trade.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm just responding tit-for-tat, as I'm left with no other option. I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just posting links, if they are inconvenient or make some feel ackward that is not my problem. Maybe some just need to face history instead of romantic notions of chivalric nationalism.
@24 I'm not upset. My grandparents fought to keep Europe free of nazism. You are always going to find some of them still hanging about after it's all over. It's like Galtieri except the German people admitted it was their fault. Argentinians however, blame everything on a few people so they don't have to admit they did something wrong.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They still don't admit they caused the war in 1982 and get horribly upset that someone even thought about sinking their ship.
You read la Nacion and it calls argentina sponsored international terrorists, the Condors, 'Protagonists'... the positivity of terror in their eyes.
You don't need to post links about nazis and criminals in the UK, we're perfectly capable of introspection here. We all know and admit what's furked up, unlike in Argentina where you can lose $2.1 Billion and no one bats an eyelid.
Well, I agree with you on one thing, I find the people complaining about the Belgrano morons. If you are in a war, you are in a war and all targets are fair game.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW, I don't see the British people taking blame for the 500,ooo dead in Iraq since the country was preemtively invaded (think about that concept, preemtive invasion, for a moment), to dispose of weapons that not only never existed, but a war justified with outright confabulated documents and dossiers.
2.1 billion?
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/
And that is chump changed compared to numbers being tossed about regarding the Bush presidency bank bailout. Some say hundreds of billions are unnacounted for.
Idlehands I agree that quality is the ONLY way to go for a small country.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0GreekYoghurt Yes, we cannot be all things to everyone. On your second response, do your really, really, think that ANY agreement with compensation from Argentina is EVER going to be honoured - what about the Paris Club?
yankeeboy Yes, I agree that we need to stop trading with Argentina. The missed opportunity about the banks was also astute. A very good point about the relationship with the USA however.
MANY THANKS TO THOSE WHO RESPONDED
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Mar 20th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your grandfather to keep free Europe from Nazism ( correct grammer)
where front ? OR where back ?
Tell me to ask you anythings.....
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Interesting that what a fast writing in 10 minutes mixed with searching these two links and writing this comment time ,if this is not planned before to compacting comment serials.
Yorgo !
Mar 20th, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you searching your grandfather to ask where he had made war !
@29 He probably turned up after your war-mongering grand pappy made war and handed him his arse.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get over it.
That'll be good. Who or what's death is he referring to? Mujica = 77. Death and worms in 3 years.
Mar 20th, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argieland - Implosion in less than 5 years. Explosion if it thinks it can beat/cow Britain.
@9 Try this. Uruguay is recognised as being the most economically-advanced countries in South America. It has a high Human Development Index. It has low levels of corruption. If it didn't have a peasant president it could go far. Request British support. Be free!
@17 But you haven't, wog!
@20 A thought. Have you tried intelligence? Rationality? A brain?
@22 At least the UK and Us have better populations. Argies, all argies, are necrophiliac, genocidal, homosexual animals, thieves and murderers.
@24 Brain-dead necrophiliac, arse-licking, sh*tter. Suck it up!
@26 Strange! I don't see Iraqi casualties getting as far as 29,000. Is there a propaganda difference? Ever thought we'd be better if you were dead?
Yorgo !
Mar 20th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mastica ...Mastica...
Inform me when your brain at work ( if you have it !) rather than
your belt open down..
Dear uruguayans, your future is in the other side of America, turn to the Pacific. The atlantic is dead.
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