President of the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB), Luis Alberto Moreno urged Latin America and Caribbean governments to learn from and replicate successful experiences in the prevention of crime and violence in the region. Read full article
It makes you wonder about some of the people running these institutions as to whether thay are on the same planet as the rest of us. Do they really expect the murder rate to drop when drugs are involved?
Honduras 77 / 100k Drugs.
Venzuela 75 /100k Drugs and extrajudicial killings (Mexico is 11.59!, UK is 1.57)
Colombia no meaningful number due to FARC but 'reducing'.
Guatamala City for the first seven months of 2011, that average was 42 slayings per week. Drugs.
Argentina 5.24 / 100k (if you believe the data)
Uruguay 5.78 / 100k (Policia data)
The big figures are directly related to the Drug Cartels who may be doing most of their killings by taking out rivals, so if that is the case, does it matter?
Is anybody surprised? If you lived in Latam, wouldn't you want to die? Thank God for Britain and the Falkland Islands. Civilisations in the midst of pathological, mendacious stupidity.
@ChrisR: why don't you believe the data in Argentina? 5.22 is a LOT! but it is not worse than the USA rate. How do you think that all that Northamerican guns culture that the republicans love so much ends??
These are just a few homicides per 100,000 population:
Venezuela 47
Colombia 46
Brazil 21
Argentina has 5.24
USA 5.22
Peru 3.21
UK 1.57
Australia 1.23
China 1.21
Japan 0.45
Putting a stigma on Latinamerican societies doesn't help them. The drugs problem is an international one... these mafias have no flags or borders, and the cocaine that Colombia may produce ends up in 1st world noses... NO?
I am having a look at UnitedNations data in http://chartsbin.com/view/1454 And the drug-related deaths (not homicides, deaths...) in 1st world nations are by more common than in most of the undeveloped nations.
Brazil, China and Argentina for example show a low rate of death-related deaths, while the USA, Canada, Australia, Sweden, Norway and the UK have the highest rates.
(page 34 in http://chartsbin.com/view/1454
So... no matter what country... I think these mafias have no borders, it is not fair to point out at poor nations while the drugs problem is an international one... it moves a lot of money and groups inside developed societies stimulate this business.
This map also shows a not very happy situation for countries like the USA, Canada, the UK, Australia and Argentina (I am including the country where I live also as I am trying to write with the truth). http://chartsbin.com/view/1454
These homicides in those very poor Latinamerican countries should be a shame for all nations.
What you say is very laudable, though some of your data is different to the October 2011 data set I used.
However, you are missing a point, which is: most of the drug cartels exist because of the 'need' from western countries I agree, but the producer countries governments do very little, if anything about it. These cartels then fight among themselves to get to be the top dog.
Your figure for Venezuela is clearly wrong, it's 75 when you count the extrajudicial killings by the Fabled Chavez (soon to depart this world hopefully) and I have no idea how you managed to get a meaningful number for Colombia due to the FARC problems.
No country that shoots people in subways and goes off like a firecracker dosed with racing fuel over an arrest, for an entire week, and burns across all its major cities can be considered a serious civilization.
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Disclaimer & comment rules.... meanwhile in the Falklands, the crime rate is close to zero. Except for some vegetable stealing, but they sent him to Argentina.
Mar 21st, 2012 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here's some info on Argie crime statistics:
Mar 21st, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0ttp://www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
And this is why.......
http://www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
This is how the maniac psycho Cristina Kirchner of Argentina and her cronies get votes and stay in power:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
... meanwhile in the Atlantic territory of Falkland Islands people don't have to lock their doors or cars.
Mar 21st, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It makes you wonder about some of the people running these institutions as to whether thay are on the same planet as the rest of us. Do they really expect the murder rate to drop when drugs are involved?
Mar 21st, 2012 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Honduras 77 / 100k Drugs.
Venzuela 75 /100k Drugs and extrajudicial killings (Mexico is 11.59!, UK is 1.57)
Colombia no meaningful number due to FARC but 'reducing'.
Guatamala City for the first seven months of 2011, that average was 42 slayings per week. Drugs.
Argentina 5.24 / 100k (if you believe the data)
Uruguay 5.78 / 100k (Policia data)
The big figures are directly related to the Drug Cartels who may be doing most of their killings by taking out rivals, so if that is the case, does it matter?
... and in the Falklands the fish and chip shop had plenty of fish for dinner and people in the pub were having a quiet pint.
Mar 21st, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is anybody surprised? If you lived in Latam, wouldn't you want to die? Thank God for Britain and the Falkland Islands. Civilisations in the midst of pathological, mendacious stupidity.
Mar 21st, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everybody here should learn a new term:
Mar 22nd, 2012 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0SUDACA - term of endearment for a person from LatAm.
@ChrisR: why don't you believe the data in Argentina? 5.22 is a LOT! but it is not worse than the USA rate. How do you think that all that Northamerican guns culture that the republicans love so much ends??
Mar 23rd, 2012 - 04:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here is a chart with DATA:
http://chartsbin.com/view/1454
These are just a few homicides per 100,000 population:
Venezuela 47
Colombia 46
Brazil 21
Argentina has 5.24
USA 5.22
Peru 3.21
UK 1.57
Australia 1.23
China 1.21
Japan 0.45
Putting a stigma on Latinamerican societies doesn't help them. The drugs problem is an international one... these mafias have no flags or borders, and the cocaine that Colombia may produce ends up in 1st world noses... NO?
I am having a look at UnitedNations data in http://chartsbin.com/view/1454 And the drug-related deaths (not homicides, deaths...) in 1st world nations are by more common than in most of the undeveloped nations.
Brazil, China and Argentina for example show a low rate of death-related deaths, while the USA, Canada, Australia, Sweden, Norway and the UK have the highest rates.
(page 34 in http://chartsbin.com/view/1454
So... no matter what country... I think these mafias have no borders, it is not fair to point out at poor nations while the drugs problem is an international one... it moves a lot of money and groups inside developed societies stimulate this business.
This map also shows a not very happy situation for countries like the USA, Canada, the UK, Australia and Argentina (I am including the country where I live also as I am trying to write with the truth). http://chartsbin.com/view/1454
These homicides in those very poor Latinamerican countries should be a shame for all nations.
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Mar 23rd, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0What you say is very laudable, though some of your data is different to the October 2011 data set I used.
However, you are missing a point, which is: most of the drug cartels exist because of the 'need' from western countries I agree, but the producer countries governments do very little, if anything about it. These cartels then fight among themselves to get to be the top dog.
Your figure for Venezuela is clearly wrong, it's 75 when you count the extrajudicial killings by the Fabled Chavez (soon to depart this world hopefully) and I have no idea how you managed to get a meaningful number for Colombia due to the FARC problems.
Rebeldenacion is a foreign troll. Dismiss him.
Mar 24th, 2012 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Conqueror
No country that shoots people in subways and goes off like a firecracker dosed with racing fuel over an arrest, for an entire week, and burns across all its major cities can be considered a serious civilization.
You were a civilization, no longer.
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