Thousands of Argentines turned out to the streets of Buenos Aires while the two houses of Congress held a special joint session on Saturday to remember the victims of the last military dictatorship on the anniversary of the beginning of the seven year long military coup that took place 36 years ago. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWow, that is a lot of people forced by Le Camping to remember. Not nearly as many people though compared to when they announced the invasion of the Falklands and all the Argies willingly came out to celebrate on the streets shouting with glee at the thought of war.
Mar 25th, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0In 1982 it was pretty much the whole population celebrating.
Will they take a moment to thank us for beating them in the war so the Junta would fall?
Mar 25th, 2012 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0there is something seriously wrong with these people. they're just not wired up right. also as ever La Campora are there just to make sure that everyone does as they are told.
Mar 25th, 2012 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pathetic banana republic dictator politics.
Just stress out meetings.
Mar 25th, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tragic times were those and it should be remembered. Just very sad that those controlling this event is using it for their own political aims. Even sadder that the average Argentine cannot see the simmilarities in tactics used. No violence, but the corruption, silencing of opposition press, forcing private companies to bankroll the government, interference with statistics,price controls, extortion of Governers of provinces, the using of reserve bank money for political aims and the general weakening of institutions are clearly similar to what the Junta did.
Mar 25th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Freedom does not mean being free from the Junta it means being free from lies and political experiments and power lust of a few that affects all the citizens and weakens principles of freedom and democracy..
@ thank you? Are you for real?
Mar 25th, 2012 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So now you wish Argentines to believe that the UK's goal in going to War was to help Argentines out of a dictatorship?
Wait a minute!!! I don't recall the UK actively protesting when the dictatoship came to power in '76. In fact, I actually believe they welcomed it! Much like the USA, the UK believed having such regimes (i.e. dictatorships such as the one in Chile with Pinochet at the helm which toppled a democratically elected government with openly admitted USA support and the UK turning a blind eye and, later on, thanking Pinochet) was instrumental in some war against communism.
So, thank you you ask?
F**K NO!
It was never the UK's intention to help out in any way by going to war over the Malvinas. Make no mistake about that!
Yep you lot were quite pleased with the Junta
Mar 25th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xqwNsmzCbM&feature=related
I didn't ay that was the reasonw e went to war, I'm saying he result of the war directly affected the failure or success of the Junta, if we had lost, the Junta would have held on to power for much longer. The war was lost, the Junta failed, fact.
Mar 25th, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK also turned a blind eye to the excesses of the Mugabe regime in Zimbabwe - 20000 Matabele were murdered by his North lorean trained 5th brigade. Mugabe was rewarded with a knighthood by the UK of which he has now been stripped.
Mar 25th, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Chilean dictator, Augusto Pinochet was a friend of Mrs Thatcher. The USA must have given Pinochet and his junta permission to make the economy scream. I doublt whether Salvador Allende was such a good choice of president but the Cubans were strutting around Santiago.
Whatever may be said of the Pinochet regime, it must be noted that they brought good government to Chile. See Anthony Sampson's THE SOVEREIGN STATE and movie fans should see MISSING with Cissy Spacek and Jack Lemon.
This story is about Argentinians celebrating the return of a ruling nationalist and socialist and corporatist family dictatorship that is going to go to war over the falklands again, so it's only right that they go into the streets and celebrate just like they all did in 1982.
Mar 25th, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now all they need is some french nuns and a plane and it would be pretty much identical.
GreekYoghurt
Mar 25th, 2012 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your are referring to that legendary figure and hero of the dirty war, Alfredo Astiz who is now where he belongs - in prison for the rest of his life in Argentina
There is a long Wikipedia article on this thug who murdered two French nuns and a 17 year old Swedish girl. It's ell worth reading criminal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Astiz
Younger readers will not know to what or whom you are referring
2 Boovis (#)
Mar 25th, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0 Will they take a moment to thank us for beating them in the war so the Junta would fall?
Should we thank you for the two failed British invasion of Buenos Aires as well?
After all, if we use your criteria, soon after that the locals kick the Spanish Empire out of the city too and eventually the whole country.
@12 No Marcos, we're all being sarcastic. We really just want you to do what you normally do, which is to blame us for sinking your 'Boat of Peace' while it went skipped around blowing kiss-rainbows and sprinkling fairy dust. Additionally, I'm sure you want the UK to apologise for losing the falklands war, like it says in your school books, and I'm sure you're going to sue for some kind of reparations.
Mar 25th, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All I can say is, at least those Argie poor fellas resting in peace in Stanley aren't having to tell lies any more and have finally found some freedom.
you are just being used,
Mar 25th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0cant you see that ??
oops sorry, take your glasses of first .
Yeah, they all came by my house. I don't know why they feel the need to graffiti my walls every time. Doesn't matter who the group is, they all seem to have spray cans....I spent the afternoon with paint remover.
Mar 26th, 2012 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 015
Mar 26th, 2012 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Latest Omnipole graffiti removal system.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTeWBHx_ElU
@ 5 Pedro: Just very sad that those controlling this event is using it for their own political aims WHAT?? Don't you know that there were a lot of different social movements from different sectors? This was VERY SPONTANEOUS and there were also a lot of claims and requests aimed at he Government too, but this article likes to paint the picture as if it was controlled by the Government.
Mar 26th, 2012 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0And how can you say that the press is silenced?? The press is not only not silenced, but it is giving a lot of different opinions in different media channels. They are even telling a millions lies everyday. I think the opposite to you. I see that Argentina has never had this FREEDOM OF SPEECH that it has today.
And it is important to let common people reach the media, because the freedom of speech just for one or two corporations is not living in democracy and is not something that brings a healthy democratic discussion between different sectors of society.
The fact that the economic groups that supported the junta are so mad against the Government today demonstrates that this Government (with its good and bad sides) is expanding democracy and bringing social classes to the democratic debate of the Republic that were silenced in the past.
SILENCE is disappearing in Argentina, step by step, even if media corporations do their best to sell lies to Argentinians.
The ones that were elected in democratic elections are taking control and regulating economy and society to make capitalist rules NOT SO UNFAIR, and this is something that some corporations (Argentinian and foreign) do not like.
This public demonstration shows the democratic country we have today, democracy in its organic meaning is growing stronger, in peace, with freedom of speech for everybody, even those who come up with lies on their headlines.
A pity that some people haven't got a little bit of critic attitude while reading news.
You don't even need to like CFK to know that democracy is growing stronger.
Spontaneous? Is that why the La Campora page on facebook has events created for that day well in advance and has discussions regarding it?
Mar 26th, 2012 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Mar 26th, 2012 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0so then, I guess there is nothing to thank because you only thank someone when they set out to something out of conviction not when they stumble upon an outcome despite having other motives. Besides, if the UK had been opposed to Argentina being governed by a military dictatorship they could have opened their mouths in '76 but they didn't. And you know why? Because much like the USA, the UK also welcomed an allegedly 'fucntional' regime in some war against communism.
So, although I do agree with you insofar as that without military defeat the dictatorship would have prolonged itself, there is nothing to thank anyone but the Argentine people who managed to democratically elect a government with the aid of external factors such as the USA realizing that military dictatorships although openly anti-communists were in the USA's eyes unreliable (they had attack a USA ally) and thus not worthy of their support.
@16
Mar 26th, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks , nice system,... but there are no imports here.
I'm struggling to understand why you're all calling Argentina a democracy when people are paid by Le Camping to vote for a particular party.
Mar 26th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then you all talk about how strong the feeling of democracy is, and how freedom has never been so right, when anyone who even dares to comment negatively about missing money or KFC gets called a 'sepoy'.
Seems you're all a bit brain addled.
@ Ptolemy
Mar 26th, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah theres alot of recent graffiti for la Campora where I live also. They dont care where they do it. Private property, public buildings etc Even their logo is sinister. I feel like going round with a red spray can and writing '...are neo-nazis' next to their tags.
A true Democracy, gives Democracy,
Mar 26th, 2012 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not
Takes it away,
So no
Argentina is not a democracy, in the true sense of the word,
@23 What Argentina is currently experiencing is what Greeks referred to affectionately as a Kakistocracy.
Mar 26th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is amazing the capacity that some of you have in here to speculate.
Mar 28th, 2012 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0No matter what happens in Argentina, for you it will always be a conspiracy plan from the government and a monster like La Campora.
Nothing furthest from reality... Do any of you know how many places does that movement have in the government or in the Congress??
Why so hostile against a little group of people that is honest and open about their ideology and their ideas about society?
Do any of you never care about what HEADLINES do not say apart from caring about what they say?
It is always good to have honest people in politics, there are still a lot of Congress men whose ideology and politic ideas nobody knows in Argentina, and nobody cares about that... Ideas bother Corporations, that's why you see so many news about La Campora.
How can you say that this public demonstration has to do only with la campora? There were a lot of different parties involved.
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