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Argentina appeals to Red Cross to help identify remains of soldiers buried in Falklands
President Cristina Fernandez has sent a letter to the Red Cross asking the international organization to intercede before the UK so that the remains of Argentine and British soldiers in the Falkland Islands which are still unknown, 30 years after the beginning of the Malvinas war can be identified. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesInternational law applies to all! Have to smile at this one, it does bitch your country should try doing it sometimes. any way haven’t you cut your wrists yet in shame at commemorating a defeat any self-respecting person would do that but then any self-respecting person would not even dream of crawling from under a rock they would hang their head in shame at invading a peaceful country in the first place.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems like there are countries that abide by UN resolutions (UK et al) and those that refuse to abide by UN resolutions (Argentina et al).
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny that her husband Nestor kicked up a fuss and walked out of negotiations with the UK about oil and fisheries in the falklands. She doesn't mention that now, does she?
(answer: no, because she wants Argentinians to forget that)
Couple of points.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Nestor Kirchner attended the swearing in of General Menendez as Falklands Governor following the invasion.
2. Those of us with a memory can clearly recall the Plaza de Mayo crammed to the rafters with ordinary Argentines lauding the junta.
3. Those of us with a memory can very clearly recall even those Argentines living in exile praising the junta.
Sorry but trying to shift the blame to the junta, whilst celebrating that foolish military endeavour and having never once expressed a word of regret for a foolish military endeavour that resulted in the deaths of nearly 1000 young men just doesn't wash. Not even with the platitudes about the British dead.
Nor does telling porky pies about a supposed expulsion that never actually happened and claiming that events of 180 years ago mean the current population don't have a right to choose their own future. Talking about respect for human rights is just bullshit.
Finally, why are so many unidentified? Because Argentine officers refused to assist in the identification of the dead thats why. And that Argentine mothers find it difficult to visit is entirely down to her Government being arseholes about charter flights to the islands.
If that sounds disrespectful, it is only because using a memorial service to proclaim an absurd sovereignty claim is deeply hypocritical and utterly disrepectful to the memory of the fallen.
The silly cow is simply sowing the seeds of future conflict, we've already seen the historical revisionism about how Argentina nearly won, the parallels with the politics of Germany between the wars is quite chilling. Thank fuck for Argentine incompetence and corruption, the slightest hint of German efficiency and I'd be worried.
Argentina appeals, Argentina claims, Argentina decides, Argentina says, Argentina asks, Argentina believes, Argentina blah blah blah. Nothing more than f*rts in the wind.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Christina Fried Chicken has hit rock bottom, using the memory of dead soldiers to keep herself in power.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 5 pfff you don't know her, she can do more than that. You'll see.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 You're not wrong, she's setting them up for another conflict. They don't even seem to think they lost any more, and the newspapers refer to them as 'protagonists' rather than their true role as 'antagonists'.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's like watching some Nazi rally before Germany invade Poland in 1939, or Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990. The Argentinians don't even see how far down the path they've gone, but far down that path they are.
If Falkland Islanders and Britain were to agree to Red Cross digging up unknown Argentine dead and RC paying for DNA-matching expense, RC should also pay to finish de-mining rest of the Islands and send the bill to CFK.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are no 'unidentified British Soldiers' buried in the Falklands. Only Argentines, and they would most likely not be unknown but for two facts, 1, RG Authorities did not issue ID Tags to many of their Soldiers, and 2, They refused to take the dead back. I do happen to believe that they should be identified, I agree the Families should be allowed to grieve at a graveside. Best idea would be to disinter them (along with all the others that were identified) with all due reverence and full military honours, and then repatriate them to their true homeland, the land of their birth. But of course CFK and the RG Government would prefer to use them as a bargaining tool (as she is doing now).... How disgusting!!
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0There seem to be no limits to how gross Mrs. K can be. Yo use the pain of the Argentine soldiers¡ families is about as low as you can go.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0The great majority of Argentines have little or no interest in the soveriegnty of the Falklands, we really only have interest in our security, education, independent justice, and bringing to an end the governmental corruption.
The Falklanders are our neighbours we should respect them as such and not slang them.
I strongly believe in the right to self determination for EVERYONE and I also believe that if the Argentine people had true self determination we would not suffer from these ignorant, corrupt and evil kirchneristas.
As an aside........Where were all the South American Presidents she invited to Ushuaia?
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think any of them came!!!!!!!
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0autodetermincacion right there, if units invaded the islands. Remember .... are the country with more colonies worldwide ......... does that mean to you? I'd like an answer .. which MEANS respectful colonialism?
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0@11 I don't think any of the South American presidents wanted to be attend Iraq's very own celebration of their invasion of their sovereign territory, kuwait.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is CFK implying that the UK won't allow the Argentine remains to be identified?
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0UN resolutions to be respected by all?
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I look forward to her declaration that she will now start to unconditionally respect the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the right to self-determination.
No? I thought not, the saggy-faced old hypocritical witch.
The reason they graves do not have a name on them is the fault of Argentina. KFC talks about talks, this is perhaps the most important thing that the RGs can talk to the FIG about. I suspect though that she will drag her heels on it though and accuse the UK of ignoring the rights of the families of the fallen. This lady has no honour and no decency.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would be nice to see an Argie on here who can show another side to Argentina.
@13 You know that the answer is UK if you count only those that remain on the UN C24 list. The problem is that most of us know that this is just a small sub-set of Overseas Territories that was determined over 50 years ago in very different times. For example, the EU recognises 25 OTs belonging to Denmark, France, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom. We also know that UK, France and Spain and others all have salt water colonies in addition to these are part of the EU, like Gibraltar and French Guyana for example. So, in many ways the answer to your question is the European Union. But as you seem to think that colonies are a bad thing, perhaps a unilateral divestment of Argentine claims to the Antarctic and South Atlantic Islands would be an appropriate gesture. 14th June would be a good day to do it as you missed yesterday's opportunity.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0For reference the EU OTs:
Anguilla (UK), Aruba (NL), Bermuda (UK), Bonaire (NL), British Antarctic Territory (UK), British Indian Ocean Territory (UK), British Virgin Islands (UK), Cayman Islands (UK), Curação (NL), Falkland Islands (UK), French Polynesia (FR), French Southern and Antarctic Territories (FR), Greenland (DK), Mayotte (FR), Montserrat (UK), New Caledonia and Dependencies (FR), Pitcairn (UK), Saba (NL), Sint Eustatius (NL), Sint Maarten (NL), South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands (UK), Saint Helena, Ascension Island, Tristan da Cunha (UK), St. Pierre and Miquelon (FR), Turks and Caicos Islands (UK), Wallis and Futuna Islands (FR)
I notice how that batty botox queen fails to mention that no-one has ever stood in the way of Argentina repatriating, or identifying, any of her war dead in the Falklands. For 30 years it has been Argentina’s own choice to leave these soldiers unidentified, forgotten and disrespected, in graves that the Argentinian government can't even be bothered to tend in a respectful manner.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0She has the nerve to talk about respect?
I have no problem with them identifying their dead but after they have paid for the full cost of Identifying & then de-mining the Islands & making reparations for the loss & damages to the Islanders for the stress of living with mines for 30 years, until that the answer should be NO NO & NO
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0@16 The Argentinians have never respected the UN. The fact that they ignored UNSCR 502 and 505; whilst planning on ethnically cleansing the people to montevideo, says volumes. During negotiations, which the UK was involved in, Nestor unilaterally walked out. There isn't anything about the UN that they respect, not even the charter.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0@18 The argentinians would never remove their claims to the antarctic, that's more of their lebensraum... and all of their hypocrisy.
@15,19 she's trying to do that. Yes, repatriation was the best option but they refused stating that the soldiers were already on Argentinian soil. The only benefit is that these poor sods get to lie in a peacefully free country, if not in life, in death. Also it brings in a fair whack of tourism (hotel rooms, blah).
Firstly, frightening ignorance from this woman. UN general assembly resolutions are not “law” and are not binding. On the other hand bilateral investment treaties, which Argentina regularly flouts, are binding and are part of international law.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Secondly, what hypocracy! International law does indeed apply to all, but Argentina is currently one of the worst offenders against it - bilateral investment treaties, world trade agreements etc.
Can there be anything more dispicable than palying politics with the bodies of fallen war dead? Doesn't this woman have any moral principals at all.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22 The Security Council Resolutions that the Argentinians ignored were binding. But the Argentinians don't mind ignoring UN resolutions, or walking out of UN-endorsed negotiations. The GA resolutions aren't binding.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@23 Nope, she doesn't. That's why Argentinians identify with her so much, because they don't either.
@22 DJ56
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0And nor are UN C24 resolutions the same as 'UN Resolutions' .. yet the Argentinians have a particular fondness for ineptly trying to pass silly and largely meaningless UN C24 resolutions off as UN general assembly resolutions.
CFK needs to understand there are no unidentified British remains from 1982 - only Argentine remains. She should give up shooting from the hip - the pistols are inclined towards her own feet!
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any tampering with the Argentine Cemetery at Darwin, will not bode well with Falkland residents. There is only one sensble and pragmatic solution - remove the caskets and remains, under proper Christian procedures, and repatriate the entirety to Buenos Aires. Any less option is not acceptable. The Falklands wins, and more importantly Argentine NOK get a 30-year win; return of much loved ones from a distant land and from a military campaign, many would have chosen not to have been involved in.
@26
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0She would never agree to the repatriation. Thats why I am particularly disgusted with a regime that uses the dead as political pawn. Can you imagine how she would twist any repatriation without consent? I can, turn it in to some ghastly form of ethnic cleansing. If it were up to me, I would DNA sample the unidentified soldiers and send the samples to the ICRC. That would be a gesture of humanity and show concern for the feelings of their NOK. The ball so to speak, would be well and truely in her court. As for where they rest, it should be the same as it was for the British NOK, their decision, which again for the sake of humanity, I am sure would be respected by the people of the Falklands.
I cant see any harm in The Red Cross doing this, although i would agree that the Argentine parents etc. should be given the opportunity of asking for the bodies to be repatriated if they want the remains back.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is nothing wrong with that. It has happened before around the world and it is right and proper that people are given the choice.
@27 I say, if this is how Argentinians treat their dead in Argentina then it's better that these poor folks rest in peace in freedom and peace in the Falklands.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure they were just doing the orders of some despotic dictator and now they're not even being allowed to rest by some despotic dictator.
Re soldier's remains,
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't the stupid Argentines keep records?
They should know who came here,
Deduct the names of those who returned to Argentina.
Deduct the names of the identified burials,
Who is left are the unidentified ones.
RIP
This is Argentina we are dealing with, for one minute does anybody believe identifying the bodies of the dead Argentine soldiers is high on their leaders priority list?? yeah right!
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0or could it be the fact that she is trying to find evidence of war crimes on these bodies, and lets face it not long ago she wanted to send her “own teams in to identify the bodies” this would be playing straight into her hands, as they will make sure evidence exists, you cannot believe a word they say, we do not want to invite more propoganda, cremate the bodies return the ashes,thats if they can make it past the import blockade.
@30
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0I believe there are rather a lot of unidentified and personaly, when we have the technology to give them back their names, we should do it. Even one identified soldier irrespective of his nationality, is some mothers son and in my opinion is one too many.
@31
I agree with you, if it were done, it would have to be done by a neutral power, by neutral I mean outside the Americas and Europe. As for autopsies, out of the question, that is playing her politics with the dead again. It's repulsive, revolting , disgusting, insulting, shameful, cowardly and dishonourable. All words that feature high in her vocabulary not to mention her behaviour.
I cant believe Reichmistress is using war dead now in a new rant...this is digusting and shes a disgrace to her country. Sick
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This has done it for me now, no respect shes sick.
I still say that all argie remains should be dug up and returned to argieland. This is another argie con. How are they going to identify remains whilst on British territory? By bringing in loads of argie equipment, argie “medical technicians” and anything else they can think of. How many argie “special forces” will there be? Who is going to keep tabs on all these “people”?
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dig 'em all up and ship 'em back to argieland. And consider all the benefits. No more ludicrous statements by “La Presidenta Botox” (the Black Widow) suggesting she gives a toss about argie war dead. No more suggestions by the Black Widow that part of the Falklands will always be part of argieland. No more visits by argie “families” and spies. No more contamination of the Falkland Islands. It's taken THIRTY years for this dictatorial mare to come up with this! At the same time as she wants to replace the LAN flight with 3 drop out of the sky flights and renegotiating a fishing agreement her cesspit is no longer party to.
It's not that she's devious. She just thinks she is. Why continue to hand her a constant opening? Any halfway decent, honest, democratic country should jump at the chance to get the remains of their war dead back so they can examine them to their heart's content and bury them where the relatives can have easy access.
Let's make sure their glorious war dead, including Capt. Pedro Giachino, are given the full disclosure of their past. Many were misguided, patriotic and innocent young men in summer uniforms with almost no training. The UK government has shown them proper respect. (For you that don't know, Giachino is considered a national war hero, but was actually a part of the dirty war and would have gone to prison for his crimes.)
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 Conqueror
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be fair to the Argentinians, how often do you think that British war dead are repatriated to the UK? Until the Falklands war it was pretty much unheard of and it was actually regarded as being much more respectful to bury people where they had fallen.
In fact, the Commonwealth War Graves Commission maintains over 1.7 million graves and memorials in 23,000 separate burial sites around the globe where Commonwealth servicemen have died overseas.
It wouldn't be any less distasteful if they'd actually got the war dead sat in the seats around her clapping through some string and levers based mechanism that Maximo had thought up.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She really is a ghoul, and Argentinians love her. What does that tell you about Argentinians.
I can see a lot of views which seem at cross purposes here.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What are the views of the Falklanders themselves? 26 falklandlad has expressed a view but I remember many posts over the past few months of other Falkland Islanders wanting to get rid of the remains once and for all.
I am sure we all understand that view if ony to remove the stupid Argie claim that the remains are on Argentina soil now.
The most sensible thing to do is to simply ignore CFK. This is just another ploy to whip up hysteria, gain a little support and steer the gullible Argentinian public away from the policies of present disasterous regime.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course the best way to get people to sit down and talk to you is to first insult them, abuse them, attack their interests and then insist that they agree with you..... Not.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Best thing Argentina could do would be to shut up, change their collective attitude, lose their current leader and be nice to all Brits.
Even if they take this advice and Argentina doesn't fragment, it will be at least 100 years plus and the Falklands will still be British.
The other alternative is war and whilst we know Britain will win again Argentina should expect preparations to match their continuing threat.
The Argentine war dead on the Falklands should continue to be respected.
I think i've found a job for Timeteam?
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I think Cameron is not aware that at the time the freedom of all Argentines was also confiscated” under the military dictatorship. “There were thousands of imprisoned with no names in concentration camps and hundreds of detained-disappeared, who never appeared again”, she said.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah love, he was talking about the Falklanders, whether you were imprisoned or not, it doesn't take away the injustice of the islanders being imprisoned. Cameron is aware, but its not the commemoration of all those who were put into camps by dictators day is it ?
And what do you mean before the UK does ?! were not the corrupt ones who would desecrate any graves, we're respectful. We know that many of those young boys didn't want to go, and that many of your countrymen didnt care if theyre were their, because they were taking 'their' precious islands.
KFC: “victim victim victim malvenas victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim le camping victim victim victim victim victim victim victim it wasn't us victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim they caused the war victim victim victim victim victim victim victim stay at Maximo brand hotels victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim victim”
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Crowd of Argtards: *furious clapping*
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Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Old Turkey Neck and the wife beater made a fortune under the Junta.
But oh yeah I almost forgot, some of their friends had to pay a bit more tax.
Not much more mind you.
@44 oh is that KFC in the photo? I thought it was one of the war dead.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is another disgraceful act for CFK to try to make political gain out of the war dead.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wake up Argentina before you country becomes the laughing stock of the world.
She clearly doesn’t like Cameron and Hague putting the British case before the world.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably been a while since anyone disagreed with her, much less flatly contradicted her in public, on the grounds of not telling the truth.
The irrelevancies are getting more so, and the rhetoric is sounding tired. Losing mojo.
With an economic blockade and diplomatic offensive both having gone nowhere, and both clearly going nowhere fast. Economic and international issues about to collapse in on here.
Won’t be long before we hear the desperation then pleading.
She came
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She saw
She tried
She lost.
End off,
.
Argentina,s Ammunition box must be right empty and all shots fired if all she has left now is to play politics with the dead and the bereaved families!!
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting there is NO mention of this request cominfg from the Families Association - only alleged “veterans” ( more likley her son,s thug group).
I can think of nothing more upsetting for the familes to know that their and many other families kin would be dug up and disturbed after 30 years.
BUT If that is realy what the Familiy members want - well Ok - let it be done in a Chritian and reverent way - BUT this will be ALL Graves and ALL shipped back to Argentina for DNA testing or whatever.
To this Islander it is, ALL - or Leave ALL undisturbed as they rest.
All or nothing
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in CFK case, its nothing .
Foul ghoulish and cynically timed publicity stunt in the worst possible taste. Quite horrible. Typical of that revolting scheming witch. Not content that these poor conscripted soldiers were abused and exploited during their short lives, she now wants to exploit their corpses for political gain.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They teach their children that because some of the Argentine invaders, who were killed during the liberation of the Falkand Islands, were buried where they fell, somehow this reinforces Argentina's feeble sovereignty claim.
In 1982, when Britain offered to repatriate the bodies of dead Argentine soldiers, the Argentine junta refused to accept their dead. In view of the continuing cynical exploitation of those bodies, perhaps we should dig them up and dump the corpses in the Rio de la Plata, in the traditional Argentine manner, from helicopters? The only differene being that, unlike the poor bastards who were alive and kicking when Argentina's 'elite' forces threw them screaming, these particular Argentinians are already dead. Of course another difference being that we would never do such a thing to desecrate long dead foreign soldiers, let alone our own people.
The fact that there are a handful of foreign invaders buried on the Falkland Islands means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. There are graves of generations of Falkland families who have lived, toiled and died on those Islands, alongside them the more recent graves of British servicemen who sacrificed their lives to liberate the islands.
http://www.palacebarracksmemorialgarden.co.uk/locationfi.html
It is a requirement of a proposed exhumation that all close relatives of the deceased are contacted and sign to say they agree to the proposed exhumation. Exhumation of burial human remains and cremated remains will normally require a license from the coroner's court of the Falkland Islands. It would be illegal without the appropriate lawful authority to exhume the remains and the only lawful authority able to do so rests in the Falkland Islands.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Google is your friend...
Doveoverdover , Dear .. see who knows the subject of colonialism .. I agree that it all started centuries ago .. but I regret to say that times change ... that have been usurpers from history, not to say that today this good. The rest of the world, have colonies, does not mean that you do this well. this is a crude justification ... The truth which has ud reason, to me, word colony is a bad word .. not ignorant to his government does not care what you think or want in its place .. only interested in economic wealth and military strategic place to have the islands .. which do you think is the goal of colonialism ... you believe the charity? not remember that before the war, his government did not even know where the islands were located. and after the war ... JOINING started to charge ... find justifications is coarse, because the rest of the countries have colonies, you do good ... haaaa remember, countries with military power, does what he pleases with regard to the resolutions of international organizations. / NOT colonialists - imperialists and capitalists ... ARE GUILTY OF WORLD POVERTY
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@36
Apr 04th, 2012 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your quite right. Our war dead are interned in cemetries where they fell, these in 99% of the cases, are tended with the reverence that they deserve. They are entitled to and are looked after by some wonderfuly dedicated people, who should have our respect and thanks.
The difference with the Falklands war I think, was that for the first time we had the ability to bring them home to the families that wished it so. Even today the Royal British Legion helps wifes and families visit their loved ones all over the world, some for the first time in decades. Distance nor time makes their loss less bearable.
I just think that there is something profoundly sad, that a state, any state, should act as if their war dead are still under their control. A soldier does his duty rightly or wrongly to his country, if he dies doing that duty then the states rights to his remains cease. His remains belong to his loved ones. It then becomes the states turn to do their duty to those loved ones, after all they have given the most precious thing they have to the state. Well that's my opinion anyway.
Argentina should resect the wishes of the families, I can not help wondering if they have even consulted them over their wishes. To say to them, your son, husband, father, “will” stay there,” just seems to be cruel and prolongs the healing process ven after 30 years.
As for making politics over the issue, well my feelings are the same as any other normal, caring person.
@53 “... haaaa remember, countries with military power, does what he pleases with regard to the resolutions of international organizations”.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0... and countries with feeble military power disregard UN resolutions when it suits them. Not to mention ignoring their international debt obligations, refusing to pay what they owe, despite their often vast wealth in the form of natural resources, that they're often too lazy, or stupid to manage.
Britain has no obligation to pay any attention to the ramblings of your so-called “international organizations”, which are invariably no more than partisan South American or other third world talking shops following agendas representing their own self-interest.
The British government, despite no legal obligation to do so, and despite Argentina's hostility, unprovoked aggression and consequent deaths of British citizens, agreed with a United Nations REQUEST to negotiate with Argentina on matters relating to the Falkland Islands. Some agreements were reached and practical steps to cooperation implemented. Argentina subsequently reneged and tore up these agreements.
The poverty in your country and most of the other “WORLD POVERTY” you refer to is entirely the fault of your own corrupt and inept governments. There are many countries around the world, without a fraction of Argentina's available resources, whose populations live in peace and prosper. Their governments are not corrupt, and are not trying to distract poverty stricken populations by blaming foreigners for their plight and constantly bleating malicious claims on other people's lands.
The remains of the Argentine soldiers should all be identified this should be quite easy they know who did not come back and they know who the families are so taking samples from should be a relatively easy matter. Once they have been identified the grave should be marked with the name so that any of the families can come and grieve as they should.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have said in the past that they should be sent back to Argentina to lie in respective cemeteries close to where there family is live. I regret to say that I have changed my mind about this for this reason only. Thirty years have passed since both sides lost young men on those islands, Argentina has showed that they can never be trusted with the truth if those young conscripts who gave their lives for their country are taken back to Argentina, Argentina in another thirty years will claim that they never invaded the Falkland's islands along with the invading of the South Georgia islands. They will change their history books to twist the truth; we see this in their everyday lives.
Leave the graves where they are in lasting testament of a cowardly invasion by a cowardly country that took the lives of young Argentine conscripts that in all honesty were a just a pawn in by an all too familiar corrupt Argentine Government who lie through their back teeth.
I like the part where she says she has asked the ICRC to “Intercede” with the UK. Intercede in what? as Argentine made a request? as it been rejected? have I missed something? Maybe my understanding of the word “Intercede” and hers understanding, is different. It's irrelevent in any case, because the request should be made to the Falkland Islands, perhaps she should consider writing another letter or in the highly unlikely case of the ICRC actually contacting the UK government, they should be referred to the same Falkland Islands. It is after all in their country where the Argentine dead are buried.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0So far as I know, there has been no Argentinian request for access for the purpose of identifying bodies, whether to the UK or the FI governments, so her direct approach to the Red Cross, in circumstances where the proper approach would be through diplomatic channels, is just another piece of publicity. And in very poor taste.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 057 reality check
Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I live in Uruguay now and am attempting to learn Espanol which has taught me one thing.
How good English is for accuracy of meaning and therefore ease of understanding.
Espanol is a very 'lax' language in this respect. Many words have multiple meanings and my Spanish Teacher has explained that is because of the 'mixing bowl' approach of the various regions, nevermind countries, which use Espanol as their first language.
It also seems that words are made up: 'desemployment' for unemployment (but in the context they should have used unemployed).
So, even if we all understood Espanol very well, it would probably be just as difficult to tell what the Mad Bitch was trying to say. As I say to my teacher when comparing English with Espanol: 'why use ten words when fifty will do'!
Please join -
Apr 04th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep the Falklands British -
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56ud makes me laugh! .. there are none so blind as those who will not see ... I remind you that the international organizations that you mention and where your country is a member and owner almost .. are the same ones deciding constantly invade numerous countries, with the sole purpose of plundering natural resources. Example, Petroleum,, ....... to serious discucion opened? you do not discuss, send bombs and ships .. their country is a violent country ... you say that countries do not pay the debts ... who want to get paid? you .. ? each aid is a lifeline ........ but lead .. unde more .. you know that the system is armed to lend us money at the expense of being their servants? ............ if you yourself said ... if there are countries with fewer resources, and live happily ... because from history until this time, his country is constantly seeking plunder resources from other countries like Latin America, Africa, Middle East ...? Pirates were born. and pirates will die,,, admit it!
Apr 05th, 2012 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 061 diegocba
Apr 05th, 2012 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0So you think it funny when Britishbulldog made the point about your untrustworthy government and the antics of the Mad Bitch you call a president?
The only person who is laughed at is you for tolerating these lies that you were fed from a child.
What translator are you using, because you need to change it: unless of course it is your lack of intellect and cohesive argument that is the point of the matter.
Says it all really.
Estimated / a, not sex either, as his name is asexual .. I tell ... in Argentina we are not fools that our government does bad things, just as good ...... but you do not realize, or will not realize that his country also has good and bad things .... colonialism is something outrageous, unfair and anachronistic .... do not be silly ...... most ignorant and unintellectual are you not interpret reality ... because the whole planet will leave 8 countries think like Argentina? Dr Cepeda. At your disposal.
Apr 05th, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63 diegocba,
Apr 05th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are not making any sense.
What l think you're trying to say is that you agree that the Falklands do not belong to Argentina & are, in fact British.
Yes, l quite agree!
Gracias.
All I say is that it is a shame, that any soldier of any nationality, in any war, should lie in ground beneath a marker that says unknown or known unto god. When there exists a means to give him back his name. Can there be anything worse than having your life taken away by way, than to having it being taken away and nobody knowing who you, I do not think so. Sorry, yes there is and that is people, any people, playing politics with who you used to be. I personally feel these young men should be given their identities back. It is the least we can do for them.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@65 I completely agree, but the cynical timing by KFC, as if she gives a damn about those poor souls or their families, as she cynically attempts to further exploit their remains for political gain, is contemptible and despicable.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0If her concern was truly human, compassionate and considerate, she would have made reference to the dead British soldiers and Falkland Islanders who lost their lives liberating the islands and people from the same vicious junta that was also responsible for the deaths of so many of her political compatriots. Those compatriots who died for expressing their opinion at a time when, in stark contrast, cowardly Cristina kept her head down and her big ugly mouth well shut.
As someone else already pointed out here, the Argentine authorities already know who died on the Falkland Islands. They know exactly who invaded and they know who did not return. Unless they intend to disinter the remains for repatriation; it seems to be nothing but a ghoulish political publicity stunt, exactly what this is.
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