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Argentina claims US and EU have the most questioned trade policies at WTO level
Argentina highlighted that the administrations of Néstor Kirchner (2003/2007) and Cristina Fernández (2007/2011) were the less reported before the World Trade Organization and warned that that the US and EU are the most questioned members of the WTO regarding their trade policies. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesFactored by the volumes of their trade, that actually still makes Argentina one of the worst (if not the worst of) offenders in the world.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0In contrast, the United Kingdom imports almost 15 times as much as Argentina does, yet has only ever had to defend itself against 3 complaints lodged against it at the WTO (all lodged by the USA).
KFC seems to think that a historical precedent is enough to account for a complete sea-change in her trade policies.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's basically the equivalent of Hitler saying 'i didn't get complaints about concentration camps before 1939'.
its always somebody elses fault...
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Maximo's Le Camping Rulebook 4.35.55 “Always blame your issue on other people”
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Among the WTO 157 members, US and EU have received the highest amount of complaints and their trade policies are being investigated by specialized courts.”
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well doh!
It's hardly surprising that the US and the EU are about 500 times the size of Argentina receive more complaints. The EU has 27 countries in it!
Honestly, you've got to wonder if these people are able to form any sort of cohesive argument at all?
@5 I ceased wondering that a while ago.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure the WTO are just sat wondering what sort of a response that is anyways.
“It isn't us. It's everyone else!” Where have we heard that before? Oh, I remember. Argieland. “The Falklands War”. “It wasn't us. It was those nasty junta people” supported by millions of argie “people”. “The Dirty War”. “It wasn't us. It was those nasty military people”. Economic disaster and implosion. “It wasn't us. It was those nasty IMF people”. “We are victims!” “And because we are victims, it's OK to interfere in the governments of other countries, set up blockades, impose sanctions, threaten small countries!” “How can it be right that we, a country of 40+ million people with only 1.068,302 square miles of territory and a population density of 37.53 per square mile, should be deprived of land occupied by 3,140 people covering an area of 4,700 square miles and a population density of 0.65 per square mile?” Could it be that argieland is a greedy, imperialist, colonialist, thieving power? Surely not? How could any cuntry sink so low? Anyone ever heard of someone making accusations to divert accusations against them? Should we match the credibility and veracity of pox-ridden argieland against the United Kingdom?
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the truth hurt the egoes of some very manly men here.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's certainly ridibund and rotfl that now it is the USA, EU, and UK that bring the “per volume” argument, that per volume of trade Argentina has far larger complaints. Or in the last response, to bring “territorial” per capita Argentina vs Falklands.
They seem to have no problem insulting Argentina up and down as “poor” in terms of GDP size difference between the USA / EU and us (or even Brazil), when you guys have what... 10-12 times the population in the first two and 5 times in the latter case? duh duh duh... If Argentina had the population of Brazil our GDP would be 4 trillion, more than Brazil's 2.6 trillion today... thus the world's 2nd or 3rd largest economy.
... kinda like small countries like New Zealand and Uruguay bringing the “per capita” argument to further enshrine their sporting achievements, but in reverse.
Now that is getting desperate when you need to bring “complaints on trade per capita”. I don't think even the CIA has that statistic yet.
@8 I'm sure these people would have a complaint: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But it would be about where the money came from for the new Maximo Hotel on their land, and why they are dying of hunger.
@8 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As long as no-one introduces a brain cell per capita argument. Administering the 41,000,000 time shares on Argentina's one cell must be a real headache ;)
@9 @10
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No argument, resort to petty insults and the drawing of tangents.
Typical European Master Race has-been behavior.
@9 It was on topic. He said the truth hurts and the truth hurt you.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's because you support a corrupt kakistocracy that allows natives to die as if they were animals. You do this from the comfort of your house in the UK without ever having been to Argentina.
That's the definition of weak.
@11 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am glad you have finally seen your own banal petty insults and childish drivel for what they are ;)
@12
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, because I will be posting here 4am UK time to prove I live in the UK (as a sort of double-agent deception) lol... I always knew British detective skills were nowhere near what they once were, but this is tragic.
@13
Banal insults?
”As long as no-one introduces a brain cell per capita argument. Administering the 41,000,000 time shares on Argentina's one cell must be a real headache ;)”
Pretty odd talking about brain cells from a man whose country took 3 hours to get some police patrols to an island near the capital city, by the time which nearly 100 minors had been hunted. The world always knew that Scandinavians weren't the brightest bunch around but that is a bit silly.
Argentina could have dispatched police to Antarctica in that time from the mainland (and we have). You can't even 30 minutes from your own capital :(
@14 I got you mixed up with someone else. You're the one who sits typing in your flack jacket and tin hat in that place called Mendoza where the most famous thing is that they named the sports stadium 'malvinas argentinas' after the world's funniest national cause.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That place sounds dreadful. FACT.
#8
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If Argentina had the population of Brazil our GDP would be 4 trillion, more than Brazil's 2.6 trillion today... thus the world's 2nd or 3rd largest economy”.
Another way of looking at it is that if you had a population as large as Brazil's, your chronic inability to run an economy (do you Argentinians know about piss ups in breweries?) would mean that your GDP would probably be about where it is now but per capita GDP would be 1/5 of what it is now!
@16 They cannot even feed the poorest of their society, and instead actively choose to let them starve in a festival of corruption. With Argentinian colonists laughing at the natives in the face, shouting 'we give you no food, we have lots of food, we give you no food', and all the natives crying because they're treated so badly and had all their food making land stolen.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even thinking about their economy puts me in a negative mood.
@14 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to be confusing statements of fact with insults :)
And thanks for reminding us all that Argentina is still such an oppressive police state. Thankfully we don't need such vast numbers of police thugs to control or citizens here in Norway.
@16
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your way of looking at it is as if I came to you and gouged your eyeballs out. A bit “anfractuous” argument (and blind).
It's well known that the bigger your population the more “self-sustaining” capitalism is. Since Argentina was uber-capitalistic in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, had we had 80 million people in 1910-1940 instead of 8 we would have had the 2nd largest GDP on Earth, and a market big enough to be self-industrializing and impervious to sabotage (as we were sabotaged in the 1940 when Europe banned our Agricultural products at the request of the USA).
Anyway, just keeping it real.
@14 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Before you start your so predictable whining that the police state analogy is untrue and insulting:
Norway = 158 armed police officers / 100,000 of population
UK = 333 (mostly unarmed) police officers / 100,000 of population
Argentina = 558 police armed officers / 100,000 of population
Russia = 976 police armed officers / 100,000 of population
In fact, despite the two countries having almost exactly the same population densities, only 5 countries in the world have fewer police than Norway and only 5 have more than Argentina.
#14
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Argentina could have dispatched police to Antarctica in that time from the mainland (and we have). “
Thanks for confirming that Argentina is in breach of the Antarctic treaty.
#19
”as if I came to you and gouged your eyeballs out“
Is that a threat? I've had death threats made to my face, so typical Argentinian bragadoccio does not impress me. But how typical that your response takes a bullying tone. Its about all your excuse for a nation is good at.
”Just keeping it real“
I think you were the one who started down the fantasy trail with your comment ”If Argentina had the population of Brazil...“ and are continuing it with the hypothetical case of having an 80m population in 1910. As I said previously, with your record of disastrous economic mismanagement, more people in Argentina - at any time - would PROBABLY simply mean that you would all be even poorer than you are now. Remember that in the 1920's your GDP per capita was similar to Canada's. Then look at the gap now.
And then , just to confirm that its all a fantasy, there is your suggestion that the Argentinian economy was ”sabotaged”. Typical. Blame someone else rather than recognising that it was the misguided economic policies imposed by Peron, his tart Evita, and their peronist and military successors, coupled with rampant corruption, which messed up your economy.
I grew up in Francoist Spain, so I know all about right wing conspiracy theories - always a good wauy of deflecting attention from internal problems: what's yours? Anglo saxons, protestants, marxists and jews seem to be the usual culprits.
Hahaha, Europeans hating on Argentina, so typical.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Franco's Spain was certainly better off than Spain now. How is it now, 99% youth unemployed?
And Norway police? That's an oxymoron, they coudn't stop an unstable dumb guy with a gun.
Europe is shit, end of story.
@22 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Says the rabid fascist troll from the country whose army is so cowrdly and impotent that it can't even fight off a vastly inferior military force with a 7,000 mile supply line.
@23... So was it inferior or superior? Up or down? I'm confused now. Maybe Norwegians have ear infections, their equilibrium isn't right.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands was the first “war” we ever lost.
British Invasion 1806: VICTORIOUS
British Invasion 1807: VICTORIOUS
Independence war vs Spain: VICTORIOUS
Liberation of Chile (from Mendoza) crossing the andes in one of the world's greatest military campaigns of all time: VICTORIOUS
Liberation of Peru: VICTORIOUS
Naval Campaigns in Central and North America: VICTORIOUS (that's why all of Central America has flags similar to ours, and in fact they originally were the United Provinces of Central America. Argentina also was the first nation in the New World to fly its flag over CALIFORNIA, before Mexico or the USA)
Cisplatine war with Brazil Empire and Liberation of Uruguay: VICTORIOUS
Paraguay war: VICTORIOUS
Patagonian race vs Chile: VICTORIOUS
War of the Desert: VICTORIOUS
Didn't Norway fall in one morning against two German Panzers?
you were fighting children,
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0now tell the truth,
would argentina still be victorious
if you fought
russia , spain , france , japan , germany , italy ,
go get to bed,
@25
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British Empire in 1806 and 1807 were children?
Spanish Empire in 1810 were Children?
The Brazilians are children?
Your Chilean and Peruvian allies are children?
The Indians you Brits so viciously defend against argie arrogance are children?
Going up to California when not even the USA with their “fake” Monroe Doctrine (all talk no walk), is a childrens ACT?
http://www.loeser.us/flags/california.html
Crossing the HIGHEST mountains on Earth outside Mt EVEREST with military horses and metal and 400o men, in mountains that have no trees nor plants (nothing to eat on the way), and still defeating the Spanish on the other side in Chile is of children?
Interesting.
Yes, we did fall to YOUR allies, the genocidal NAZI panzers when they invaded without warning or provocation in the same cowardly fashion that Argentina invades - and only one single country came to our aid and stood by our side through the occupation .. that country being the same United Kingdom that liberated us, our Danish friends to the south and the German concentration camps.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The gratitude we have for that unquestioning British sacrifice is eternal and is something we share with the Falkland islanders.
And despite claiming neutrality (what a joke that was) the best cowardly Argentina has is the eternal shame of their cowardly cooperation with the Nazis - both during and after the war - is an eternal shame. And for that you have the nerve to claim that it was sabotage when the USA urged for sanctions against the fascist state of Argentina.
Argentina was neutral in WWII. We sold raw materials and foodstuffs to both sides. We allowed both French and English/Irish/Scottish, and German and Italian, and Jewish immigrants and Poles, and Russians and Turks, and Dutch and Greeks (Aristotle Onassis anyone?) into Argentina at the time by the millions to escape the hellholle Europe was. Even Norwegians in Misiones and in the border provinces with Brazil.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are welcome for our hospitality, Argentina saved Europe.
'Argentina saved Europe.'
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trolling at its finest, bravo sir!
@28 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 01806 - 1807 wasn't Argentina, you tragic imbecile, it was Spain and the Anglo-Spanish war.
Argentina pretended to be neutral but was anything but neutral and profited handsomely from the war, so any attempt you make to paint Argentina's part in the war as being noble will be utterly futile and show you up as the tragic revisionist troll you are.
And after the war, decades of knowingly sheltering thousands of Nazi war criminals responsible for the most atrocious genocide the world has ever known.
I am glad I don't have to live with the shame of being Argentinian and a coward.
@30
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what you are saying is that 7 million European lives, including half a million Irish, English, Welsh and Scotts is not a merciful act. Ok.
You have an interesting concept of “saving”. I guess lives are not part of the definition.
So let me get this right 7 million people out of 730 million saved Europe......
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see so saving .9% of the population saved Europe..... right...
How many of them were German?
@31 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I repeat: tragic revisionist troll
@30
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 01806-1807 the Spanish had mainly left Buenos Aires. Why do you think the British decided to try and outright invade the city moron?? Perhaps because they thought it was vulnerable??
They weren't counting on the local population (who was not Spanish, it was 95% Criollo, i.e Argentine), actually fighting them and organizing a resistance. There was no Spanish Army in that event, it was the city's population that defeated the British forces all on their own.
As for profiting from “war”, you do realize Britain (and Germany, Italy, Spain, France, even Norway), have made BILLIONS AND BILLONS by selling weapons around the world that then were used to commit genocide.
Research Rwanda, Cambodia, Yugoslavia you friggin hypocrite!
Your industries have made money on millions of liters of human blood. NICE.
Argentina stayed out of WWII because it wasn't attacked, it wasn't threatened, it wasn't given a convincing argument by either side to join such a devastating war. Why would we have joined? To save Norway and Britain, or France? or to protect the Italians or Germans? It was your war!
@34 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was still the Anglo-Spanish war, you blithering imbecile.
As for your other lies about Argentina;s role in the war and protecting Nazis from justice, you just heap even more shame on yourself and your sorry backward excuse for a country.
Funny comments, coming from someone who's country shamefully has a term for traitor named after it. “Quisling”.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidkun_Quisling
The Anglo-Spanish war, in which the only time the British actually FAILED to take over a region (remember Britain was just coming off taking over South Africa, and a few years after taking over Autralia), was Buenos Aires.
No wonder Thatcher felt like nuking the place.
@34 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your shovel is getting blunt.
What does anything here have to do with the US, EU et al having good reason to raise the fact Argentina's whole protectionist nonsense goes against the WTO/G20?
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you all just ask him if Argentina won the 'Dirty War'? Ask him if the nuns put up much resistance. That'll shut him up.
@36 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was still the Anglo-Spanish war and no amount of your desperate revisionism will change that. Imbecile.
36 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0did argentina win the dirty war
did the nuns put up a fight against your gangsters.
Did England win the Parliament vs Royalist wars?
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Better yet, did the Irish?
At least our internal strife don't murder our neighbors too.
34. Peron was basically a Nazi and only came into the war when it was already won. Why do you think the USA shut down your trade with EU and UK? And then again in the 80s w/ Russia. The USA thinks Arg is a bunch of stupid thugs and every chance we get we stick it to you a little bit. It's happening now can't you feel pain yet?
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apart from the inconvenient fact that Argentina doesn't have a single neighbour that hasn't lost citizens to Argentinian violence, I repeat that when your own successive governments have summarily executed many tens of thousands of its own citizens within living memory, you really aren't in any position to lecture anyone with your rank hypocrisy and nauseating nationalism.
@42
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You stick it to friends and enemies alike. That's why some decided they didn't like how the Postcards of New York City looked too much.
Shouldn't you be buying ammo for the upcomming Racial Holy War? Summer is nigh now... you know its coming.
Kann ich Tray von du?
Troll, you're getting very desperate now with some of these posts. I think you are trying to do far too much and becoming rapidly irrelevant with each rant that has nothing to do with the subject.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can do better.
dig telling dig telling, dig dig dig,
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you vill burieyorselfstopdigging
44. You are so jealous it clouds your debate. I think I have asked you 3 times did the USA deny your visa is that why you have so much animosity towards us?
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plus you're South American you should have learned to bend the knee to your betters by now.
South American? I thought you were the friends of Chile and Uruguay and Brazil? Asking them to bend their knees? I mean, don't make Argentina's argument for us, make it a little harder to convince the other South Americans what you REALLY think.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's what pisses USA off. We tell it to your face and you don't like it.
What is your anymosity towards us? I'm not going to say its jealousy because I'm not as foolish as you Im afraid.
That's what pisses USA off. We tell it to your face and you don't like it
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ha ha i nearly fell of the ships mast,
keep it up.
Chile is a good ally I have no complaints about them.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil steals patents, wants all the benefits of being an emerging country but also wants to act like a big boy, they have not grown up yet and it may take them another 20-30 yrs to get there.
Uruguay is too small to think about but are usually nice.
If I were an RG I wouldn't pick on them since last time you had a little kerfuffle they asked the USA for protection and we said yes.
No we aren't mad at Argentina, we think you are like a whiny teenager not fully developed mentally and always trying to punch outside of your weight class. You would think after 60yrs of getting pushed around, ridiculed and humiliated by US you would've learned your lesson but you're not a bight people.
I guess self determination laws only apply if you are a white colony.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0thats very insuling to the other colours is it not.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but then only a pirate would say that,
har har .
Yankeeboy, I meant YOU. I don't care what the USA thinks of us.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW, another day another shooting right? 6 dead here, 7 dead there, whoop and whiz.
@53 Truth_Telling_Troll
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Says the troll from the police state with a murder rate that, even today, is amongst the highest in the world .. and significantly higher than that even of the USA.
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