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Argentina must act seriously and stop childish attitudes, says top industry leader

Monday, April 2nd 2012 - 09:40 UTC
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Argentina’s notorious Interior Trade Secretary Guillermo Moreno has triggered another controversy, this time among board members from Industries Union of Argentina, UIA, involving one of its vice-presidents and the CEO of Fiat. Read full article

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  • Skåre

    I suspect Cristiano Rattazzi is mincing his words. Argentina has long since lost ALL international credibility.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    You have to feel sorry for Argentinians who have the sense to realise that Mrs K is leading them into a blind alley. No doubt the Kirchner propaganda machine will now start on this guy.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Argentina needs more people like Cristiano Rattazzi getting up and saying this is nonsense. Protectionism in a South Korean sense is fine, but in the North Korean sense is not fine. You're better just opening your markets completely and focusing on innovation and competition, as Schumpeter would have suggested.

    This guy has balls, Argentina needs more men like this with balls.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    3 GreekYoghurt

    I agree with you on this one but Cristiano Rattazzi just better watch his back, otherwise he might be the next guy to get “disappeared”.

    Anyway Kirchner is more of a man than I am, she's more for a man than anyone......... she's got hairs on her chest, you know?

    It's true!! All the way down to her w*lly!!!

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    “Look! the young boy exclaimed, ”the empress has no clothes...“
    Very few Argentineans seem to be brave enough to speak the truth.
    ”Rattazzi recalled that for years he has been warning that inflation is a serious problem: “you can’t do what you want all the time and ignore the rest of the people. You can’t not pay a debt and laugh at the creditors who didn’t collect their money: sooner of later, with this kind of attitude day after day, at some point problems surface”. I think he hit the problem right on the nail, but maybe he's wrong as it seems to have been a successful formula for the Kirchners so far.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @4 I think he's safe as a presumably Italian national. If there's one group the Argentinians seem to avoid annoying it's the Italians, except for when it comes to paying loans.

    @5 Their failures are thinly veiled.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #4 She's certainly “tougher than a man” as they used to say about someone, who was that again...

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    Rattazzi has been open and critical of the K regime for years. When he speaks the rest of Argentina should listen.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    If only the USA and EU had people like him, but alas, they live in police states. To protest against barriers to trade or subsidies in those countries is met with brutal crackdowns.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @7 And which “queer” men do you hang out with? Or perhaps you're into little boys!

    @9 argieland has at least 16 “secret” intelligence services. And more “police” organisations than you could shake a stick at. Police states, eh?

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    State the 16 “intelligence services”.

    Lying is as acceptable in Britain as cat garbage tossing. Pathetic people.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @9 Truth_Telling_Troll

    LOL If you weren't so tragic you would be hilarious.

    AT 03:09 pm I point out on another article that Argentina is a police state - having way more police per head of population than the USA or any of the EU nations - and 30 minutes later you are claiming that the USA and EU are police states. Not just tragic, but tragically unoriginal.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    ASSUMING your numbers are correct which I highly doubt:

    Europe needs less police because you are all slaves, can't have guns.

    USA needs less policing because it has 1/3 of the world's prisoners, 2% of their populace.

    Argentines can have guns AND have only 0.1% in jail (meaning many criminals are loose), and yet our violent crime rate is lower than all Latin America including Uruguay and in line with the USA which has far more jailed.

    And the USA calls half of their homidices “preemptive self-defence and population control incidents”, not MURDERS.

    And Europe has a far higher terrorist rate, total and PER CAPITA. Let's count the number of terrorists attacks just in the UK alone since 1980 vs Argentina... LOL... it's not even a contest. Between the IRA and the muslims.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @13 Truth_Telling_Troll

    Who needs terrorists when, as in Argentina, your own government simply executes its own citizens by the tens of thousands. You really are an imbecile.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Ouch, usually it is at this time that I would say: “That was a pathetic comeback”.

    If Argentina had the gun restrictions Europe has, had the incarceration rate the USA has, and actually enforced law by telling illegal immigrant squatters and criminals to get on a plane right now... our crime rate would be practically 0.

    You Fool!

    ...and yet Another Victory of reason, logic, and intellect, brought to you by the TTT™ (all rights reserved).

    Till la proxima fools!

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @15 Truth_Telling_Troll

    But Argentina doesn't, which is what paints it as such a backward and Neanderthal country. Yet again you are felled by your own dementia.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    What does his gun chat have to do with the fact even the captains of Argentinian Industry are suggesting Argentina is acting like a child, and it's not likely to go anywhere good if it keeps acting like this.

    Better let argies keep their guns, that's why Tobias is typing in Mendosa with a tin hat and flack-jacket.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @17 GreekYoghurt

    The gun chat serves to prove the point: Argentina must act seriously and stop childish attitudes

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    What can I say about a pampered Italian used to live in privilege in Argentina ?? I don't think his opinion matters to the majority working class Argentines witch depends on agriculture for the past 50 years, maybe he should go back to Rome and build his chariots there.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    #13
    Now tha'ts the first time I have EVER heard anyone boasting that their country has a violent crime rate that's the same as the USA's. Don't you know that Europeans are horrified at the levels of US homicides and gun crime? You just confirm our perception of Argentina as a violent and crime ridden society, despite a huge and obviously very inefficient (corrupt?) police force.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    -Not only he is not a patriot, he is a mountain-

    Im trying to work out what that means.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @20

    You make it up in off the chart Hara-kiri events. Don't be too proud, I think it speaks worse of a society that it is so dreadful so many there resort to it.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    This country still lives in the days of the dinosaurs, and you want Argentina to stop childish attitudes?

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tim

    4 toooldtodieyoung (#) “It's true!! All the way down to her w*lly!!!”. Hey your getting it mixed up. British Soldiers in WWI named their “whistles” after the German Kaiser, hence “Willie”. What the ladies have we refer to as a “tw.t”

    As for TTT, take no notice of him, he is enjoying himself taking the piss out of everyone.

    Apr 04th, 2012 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    #22
    Still waiting for you to respond in relation to my post on average wages - what's the matter, logical debate too much for you?
    And some free advice - why dont you check your statistics before posting? If you did, you would see that Argentina has a HIGHER suicide rate than the: Argentina 7.7 per 100,000, UK 6.9 per 100,000. Or did you simply think that a higher figure must necessarily be better?

    Apr 04th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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