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Foreign Office condemns violent actions against UK embassy in Buenos Aires
The Foreign Office condemned on Tuesday today what it called “violent actions of a minority” following Monday’s demonstration on the surroundings of the British Embassy located at the Recoleta neighbourhood, Buenos Aires City. Read full article
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Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0any argie blogers want to disagree with that,?
we think, that CFK was behind this outrage, it was her and only her, that put all this anti british rubbish, on her TV radio and in the schools,
she must carry this all the way .
Wrong way up flag is wrong way up.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A handful of tugs can not be compared to the tens of thousands that terrorized British cities a few weeks ago.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Tens of thousands? When did it become orders of magnitude bigger in order to suit your purposes?
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact is, this is how Argentinians celebrate their war, by trying to raid an embassy, against internationally agreed norms. The fact that they're all paid by KFC is just secondary.
@ 3 A handful of thugs who are Malvinistas, like you. Those tens of thousands that terrorized British cities a few weeks ago, didn't attack an Argentine property or burned an Argentine flag. It would be fun if that happened just to see your reaction hahaha
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 03
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tugs,, TUGS do not these go on water,
did these tugs, climb out of the water, and went on a rampage.
I love how xbarilox pretends to be Argentine. You could have been born here, but no way you are Argentine. NO ARGENTINE WOULD THINK BURNING OUR FLAG IS FUN. If one does so he automatically stops being Argentine and becomes a foreigner born in Argentina.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Seriously, it's just a flag. No one really cares, so long as they're not burning someone wrapped in a flag.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Their own flag looks sh!t, so at least they get to burn something that looks good.
@8
Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here flags are sacred, holy and both together. People here care for our flag.
That's a matter of likes. You have no authority to say which flags look shit. They are all beautiful, at least for those who feel represented by it, and that's what matters.
3 Marcos Alejandro
Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0“A handful of tugs can not be compared to the tens of thousands that terrorized British cities a few weeks ago”
You mean last years riots? They were not a few weeks ago. Yes a lot of morons, mostly illegal immigrants let in by the previous government!
Do you have any idea how your country looks to Britain. Mobs attacking British businesses, mobs attacking the British Embassy, mobs throwing petrol bombs, proxy terror groups claiming they are going to attack British interests, sail a stolen tug boat to the islands and attack the Falklands.
Everyone in the UK is not throughly anti Argentine. Even the liberals dislike your country, all they see is hate and violence!
Have you ever been to Zimbabwe? Do you know how politics are conducted over there? It's seems to the British public Cristina Fernandez has stolen Mugabe's Manual for Staying in Power. There were two news reports on the BBC and Sky yesterday that referred to Zimbabwe as a comparison to Argentina!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWU7Gwcv1gI
@10
Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem with that theory is that is doesn't take in account that we Argentines need a complete 180° change in our course every 10-20 years. Not even the last dictatorship could hold that winds of change, the same way no government in at least 50 years will be able. CFK government ends in 2015 and then Scioli-Macri alliance takes power. And we get our much needed change in course.
@10 seems that you don't have a 180 degrees on your expansionist warmongering.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@12
Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, the way of achieving it. You had the Menem one. Then you have the Kirchner one.
@ 7 Of course I'm not an Argentine, Einstein! I was born here, but that's not enought to be an Argentine, to be an Argentine one has to be someone like you. Or do you think I chose to be born in this country? Where is your head? In your *rse!
Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 011 JuanStanic
Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well I hope they have a better clue than the current lot but my fear is that fanatical nationalists now own the political discourse in Argentina.
9 JuanStanic
So “flags are sacred” yet everywhere over the internet, in the papers and on the news there are mobs burning British flags! And it doesn't stop there they can be found burning the flags of every nation they've ever played soccer against. It's just vile fanatical nationalism at its very worst, encouraged by the political rhetoric of your government, they only seem interested in appealing to the base instinct of “the tribe” against the “common enemy”, it's an old tactic used by the worst politicians.
@14
Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, then tell me two things you disgraceful person who was punished by having to be born in Argentina. Do any person choose where they are born? If so would you rather been born in Sierre Leone than Argentina?
How can be so sure of that statement? Do you know every Argentine like to say the are all like me?
PD. If I had my head in the *rse I wouldn't be able to complete the digestive process. So I would be dead, but strangely enough for you, that's not the case.
2nd part of my truncated message:
Apr 04th, 2012 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I endured the Franco’s “internationally supported blockade” of Gibraltar (in my opinion, an entirely unjustified exercise; exclusively effected to boost the then discredited dictatorial regime’s moral authority to Spanish public opinion) However, times MAY change for the better! So it’s probably NOT prudent to propagate too much ill will and thereby, hamper the chances of such a desirable improvement in bilateral relations. Therefore, I feel that the most appropriate response to ANY foreign provocation is probably that of the time tested stratagem: “Talk SOFTLY and carry a BIG stick!” –“Prevention is better than cure”, “A stitch in time saves nine” (and other old wives tales, ad nauseam)
Shortly after leaving the army in the late 1960’s, I became bored by working as an Electronics’ Tech and decided to study Spanish literature and culture. Little did I think that such a seemingly insignificant step would lead to my marrying a Spaniard and to an international career in broadcasting and telecommunications, principally in Africa and The Americas. So now I have the good fortune to count a number of “Latina/os” among my dearest friends. Also –although born in Oxfordshire– I’m of Welsh descent and must confess empathy for my “compatriots” in Patagonia. They’ve been there for more than 150 years and yet they’ve managed to cohabit reasonably happily with Argentineans of other ethnic origins. Or should I say that it’s the poor old Argentineans who’ve had to tolerate all those mad Celtic, hymn singing sods? –most of whom still speak, sing, pray and write in Welsh, to this very day!
Finally and without wishing to be impolite to the writers, I note that some Mercosur reports are inaccurately translated into English. Of course, in peaceful circumstances, such usually minor mistakes wouldn’t matter too much. However, in the current unfortunately hostile ambience, perhaps a greater rigour IS required?
Cheers to All!
Jim, in Madrid, Spain.
GreekYoghurt:
Apr 04th, 2012 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...@3 Tens of thousands? When did it become orders of magnitude bigger in order to suit your purposes?
The fact is, this is how Argentinians celebrate their war, by trying to raid an embassy, against internationally agreed norms. The fact that they're all paid by KFC is just secondary...”
You couldn't be more of a fool and a clown if you really tried (you can't try, it's your only default setting from the factory). You managed within two short sentences to not only turn your own argument against yourself, but basically pull the trigger too.
Forget “magnitudes bigger” for tens of thousands... how about YOU turning 200 protesters in a fringe group into an entire nationality, “that's how Argentines celebrate their wars”...
You wouldn't be using numerical absolutism in a scurrilous and lying fashion to suit your purposes there now would you?
And then to ice it you claim they were paid. Which means that otherwise, no one in a country of 40 million would have even bothered with it. That didn't stop you to say every single solitary argie was involved in that.
That is not “orders of magnitude”, that's beyond magnitudes. Simply put, it's the ratiotionation of an utter vegetable brain. I hope life is merciful to you.
:)
@18 Shouldn't you be outside enjoying the celebrations of the start of the war and invasion with your Le Camping chums?
Apr 04th, 2012 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is the same show that we saw with “Gualegaychú picketeers” in the Uruguayan border paid by who knows who, but very noisy, So, If there is no any vital interest for the UK in Argentina, the answer is very simple; retire the ambassador and leave relations at consulate level just to help individuals and don´t invest a single pound or buy anything from Argentina. Remember, the capital attacks running away.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0@20
Apr 04th, 2012 - 02:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Many here would be most glad for that to happen. Indeed, more than one will help the ambassador pack his things.
@15
Our flags are sacred. I.E. the Argentine Flag. The others are just flags.
(17) JimHandley
Apr 04th, 2012 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Welcome to this pages, your presence is sorely needed :-)
It seems to be that most balanced British commentators in here are persons of a ”certain age” with a military career and “some” live experience on their luggage’s…..
I wonder why?
Anyhow….
If my “Jones” neighbors from Y Wladfa Gymreig read your comment, you will surely be dragged to Church on your next visit and “treated” with a couple of hours of choir singing to exorcise all that Spanishness out of you :-)
Respetuosamente
El Think, Chubut, Argentina
6 briton Mr Shakespeare, thanks for the correction. I meant thugs@3, I am still working on my inglishh.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0A handful of tHugs can not be compared to the tens of thousands that terrorized British cities a few weeks(months) ago.
“used tear gas and water cannons to dissolve the protests” - Why did the police not arrest any of these lawbreakers? They were commiting criminal acts, but apparently nobody in Argentina seems to want to stop criminal acts. Most civilized countries make it illegal to be on the streets wearing masks. Has this country become a “free for all” state?
Apr 04th, 2012 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's state-sponsored thuggery has once again done massive damage to the country's already shoddy image.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 06:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@23
Apr 04th, 2012 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those thugs were identified, arrested, prosecuted and punished with the full vigour of the British justice system. Some of them are still waiting to hear the knock on their door. I wonder if the same can be said about your thugs.
@25
Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0The government could have very well told the police to leave Quebracho destroy the embassy
@27 JuanStanic
Apr 04th, 2012 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0They could also have told their own thugs not to attack the embassy. They didn't.
If that attack had happened against the Argentinian embassy in London, the Argentinian hypocrites would already have lodged a complaint at the UN.
If Argentina had genuinely wanted to prevent what happened, they would have had more than a token police presence .. and given that they have one of the largest police forces in the world, finding the manpower to provide effective protection can hardly be a problem.
@27
Apr 04th, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0If that had happen or does happen, then the UK would have no choice but to withdraw its diplomatic staff for their safety and if Argentine state collusion was suspected, expel Argentine diplomatic staff from the UK. I suspect other nations friendly to the UK would also take action, as in the case recently in Iran. Argentinia would not be looked on kindly, around the world, if she committed a political suicide stunt like that. That's my opinion, anyway.
This was a disgusting show by a mob whipped up by hysteria and fed on Argentine propoganda.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0II
The thugs that terrorised British cities last summer were the result of (i) absent fathers; (ii) have a baby get a council flat attitude; (iii) bloated unemployment benefits where work does not pay; (iv) a struggling education system and (v) teenagers being brought up in a dream world of cheap fantasy TV programmes where riches from nothing is promised at the drop of a hat -X -factot etc; (vi) and not forgetting the moral crusaders and the human rights act (which only we in Europe obey) that ensures that dealing with such disturbances is done with 'kid gloves'.
@21
Apr 04th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Our flags are sacred. I.E. the Argentine Flag. The others are just flags.”
That reminds me, must get some more toilet roll with the Argie flag printed on it.
@30
Apr 04th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your right. Perhaps we should take a page from the Argentine book. Water cannon, CS and baton rounds. Would not have been a pretty sight, but neither was the outcome. I've a feeling it would have ended sooner and stopped most of them coming on to the streets. For that matter, when are we going to get a law that stops these bastards wearing masks at so called peaceful demos. First sign of one should be construed as them having a criminal intent and they should be nicked, end of!!!
@21 JuanStanic
Apr 04th, 2012 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your flag is a grotty old pair of Andy Pandy's pyjamas and, as WestisBest has already hinted, isn't even fit for cleaning up after the basic operation of the terminal end of the elementary canal. Comprende .. or is that too subtle for you?
I don't don't know. Rather reminds me of “Little Weeeed” a character from the early days of childrens television here in the uk. A show called Bill and Ben, the flower pot men. Basicaly, (spelled that wrong) two characters who's bodies were made from flower pots. They were always shown standing either side of a large Dandilion flower, with a large yellow face, who'se name was, you guessed it, “Little Weeeed” Ahhhh, happy childhood memories.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 reality check
Apr 04th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love it :)
http://images.esellerpro.com/2248/I/155/7/medscalebill_ben_350x250.jpg
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Apr 04th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep the Falklands British -
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Apr 04th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Damn that was quick, well impressed, don't suppose you could find loopie lou, always had a crush on her. Ahh, such cultured conversations.
@28
Apr 04th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And loose the chance to have the police actually do something in front of everybody? Besides, the UK government congratulated the efforts of the policemen to defend the embassy. Impeding the whole attack wouldn't even had repercussions so it wasn't an option.
You also show a clear ignorance about how the police work here.
@29
That's the reason it won't happen.
@31
Our flags are sacred here for us. I can't care less what you do in your home with something that imitates the Argentine flag(if you don't get the details right then it's not our flag. Please try not to confuse it with Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala or Nicaragua flags)
@33
At least it's not like the English flag that looks like a white towel used by a man with hemorrhoids after he was violetnly raped in the a*s.
23 Marcos Alejandro
Apr 04th, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you,, but one did not correct you, one does not have an interest in peoples spelling,
[eye] do it often enough, one was just playing with the tugs,
Relax.
9 JuanStanic (
Here flags are sacred, holy and both together. People here care for our flag
[no disrespect mate]
But if you guys go around burning other people’s flag, then you have NO respect, not even for your own flag,
A flag, is just a flag, but to be fair, if you burn others, then you have no complaint if others burn or condemn yours,
Have you not.
.
@39
Apr 04th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why “you guys”? I never burnt a flag from another country. Most people didn't. So where is that generalisation going?
Really, we only care for our flag. The others only care for embassies and hotels. I take the risk to say some flags, like the Brazil one, are a bit liked by people. But for most we don't give a cr*p.
No, it's not just a flag. Here it's not. It's the maximus national symbol.
I insist, 99.9% of us don't burn other countries flags, they are not worth the money to buy them.
you may not,
Apr 04th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they do .
They are the 0.01% or less.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But following your reasoning, if I get to know that one British burns our flag then 100% of British people gets the blame. The UK government gets the blame also, as it represents the British people. So in that case Cameron should have an apologise prepared just in case.
ah the man who just sain dont blame us all, now says 100% british,
Apr 04th, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one would suggest you re-read the plot,
one said if you [as in argies] not summering all, this is your reply is it not.
the result still stands,
if argentine people, burn a flag, then argentine have no complaint if others burn theirs,
is this not true,
you reply should have been [cir]
it is only a minority stupid fool that do it, most of us respect other countries flags full stop.
is this not true .
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@9 Then let's hope that the next time you burn a “sacred” flag, God strikes you dead! Just remember that God is English.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@42 Just remember that all argies, scum that they are, are responsible for 1982. Every one of you is a cowardly, duplicitous, genocidal, invading, kleptomaniac, mendacious, murdering, raping, uxorious, wimpish turd.
@43
Apr 04th, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I said, following you reasoning. My reasoning goes a different way.
My response couldn't have been that because most of us don't respect other countries' flags. We just don't care. Respect does not come from attitudes, respect comes from intentions.
@45
I was not born in 1982 moron. Half of us weren't-
then like eye said, you have no complaint,
Apr 04th, 2012 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't complain. I just stated how I would act following your reasoning.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My reasoning is just normal,
Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I feel that ones countrymen burn other countries flags, for what ever reason, then I would have no complain if others did it to us,
We British do not do such things, and rather find it odd and strange why people do this,
But alas, that’s what some irate people do in life,
We see it on TV all the time, foreigners burning brits or American flags,
For what reason, it gets them nowhere, but TV exposure .mmm
Normal day in RG Land then.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Complete ignorance to burn the flags of other nations, attack their embassy and riot in the streets. Then again its hardly surprising given the pitiful rhetoric from BA.
And this is supposed to be civilised and peaceful behaviour? God help us all if it gets out of hand.
30 Brit Bob´
Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here, here!
22 Think
If my “Jones” neighbors from Y Wladfa Gymreig read your comment, you will surely be dragged to Church on your next visit and “treated” with a couple of hours of choir singing to exorcise all that Spanishness out of you :-)
Estaría encantado. I love choral singing, especially the good old Protestant hymns (Cwm Rhondda and whatnot)
By the way, your cordial reply proves that SOME Argentineans and Britons can STILL be good friends. Muy agradecido, Many thanks, Diolch yn fawr.
You say you`re in Chubut. Ain’t that the site of one the original, Welsh settlements and the infamous Sun Dance Kid’s final hiding place?
¡Un abrazo muy gordo, hermano!
Jaime.
http://newhistories.group.shef.ac.uk/wordpress/wordpress/?p=2352
Apr 04th, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0posted by stick up your junta
a very interesting article .
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@38 JuanStanic
Apr 05th, 2012 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having lived and worked in Argentina for three years, I can assure that I am very well acquainted with just how the police operate in Argentina and just how corrupt they are. I am also well aware that demonstrations of this nature, which aren't overwhelming in nature, don't happen unless they are under orders to let them happen.
Had it been a full-scale riot, then some of what you said would have been true, but for demonstrations of this size you are talking out of your arse.
I watched the video of this on Clarin? or whatever.
Apr 05th, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a bunch of pansies! Knicker elastic catapults and a bit of concrete. You could tell that the policia were holding back and those using 'rubber bullets', correctly known a baton rounds were NOT trying to hit anyone.
Obviously a side show and ammunition for the Mad Bitch to use as a 'We are peaceful rant'.
Where was the intrnatinal laws when the Libyan embassy was destroyed in UK??? Hi yes I forgot the laws are only there to protect white people, too bad the racist still run the world, This is really sad for Africa and black people, all this has comments and reports it shows that one day white people will be back to owning slaves.
Apr 05th, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 055 Pirat-Hunter
Apr 05th, 2012 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I must have missed that one or do you mean the Iranian Embassy seige in 1980?
@55
Apr 06th, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Explain please?
1. Iranian Embassy destroyed by fire caused by SAS window breaching charges which set fire to curtains. You must have seen it, the rest of the world did.
2. Libyan Embassy. A member of the staff opened fire from a window with a submachine gun on to a British street, murdering Yvonne Fletcher a young police women. Even then, the British behaved civilised, much to the annoyance of many, by allowing the killer to use his so called diplomatic immunity and leave the country, escaping justice. The Embasy was subject to forensic examination and closed.
These are the only two Embassy incidents I am aware of. Perhaps you would care to enlighten us all.
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