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The Peruvian Exocet connection in the Falklands/Malvinas war

Tuesday, April 3rd 2012 - 05:15 UTC
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It was 1982 and Peru had returned to the path of democracy. Belaunde Terry was elected president, the same man the military ousted in 1968, and he was no friend of military or right wing dictatorships. Read full article

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  • GreekYoghurt

    “the same man the military ousted in 1968, and he was no friend of military or right wing dictatorships.”

    Well, his actions clearly clearly contradictd his words. He was a friend of the military and right-wing dictatorships because he went and sold them planes and missiles.

    I think we all know that Israel and Peru actively helped the Argentinians during the War. We knew that then, we know it now.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    Another sad old cocaine-addled blimp confesses all.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tabutos

    Argentina will fail in diplomacy as they did in the conflict, due to the one message the government of UK is giving out

    “Britain remains staunchly committed to upholding the right of the Falkland Islanders, and of the Falkland Islanders alone, to determine their own future. That was the fundamental principle that was at stake 30 years ago: and that is the principle which we solemnly re-affirm today.” DC

    that message will not move not even an inch, no matter how many other country's side with Argentina, no amount of embarrassing will convince them because there is nothing to be embarrassed about

    “We should remind the world that in the years since their liberation the Falkland islanders have repeated - without qualification or equivocation - their wish to keep their constitutional status, their national identity, and to live peacefully with their neighbours in Latin America,” WH

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    The Argentinians will fail because they should never have been allowed into the UN. They don't abide by any of the rulings, they claim the courts have no jurisdiction, they unilaterally walk out of negotiations, and they don't have any respect for self-determination, quite the opposite.

    So... the argument of morality is already won.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    However fitting it would have been, I would just like to point out that “sad old cocaine-addled blimp” was not a reference to Diego Maradona.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @5 are you talking about the nation of Colombia?

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @6 GreekYoghurt

    No, just Belaunde Terry, the comically named Peruvian cocaine addict.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @7 Oh, I thought you were talking about the Bolivian president.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @8 GreekYoghurt

    Oh, good grief, no. He would be more of a cocaine-addled zeppelin than a blimp ;)

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    And now the Peruvians are vexed & cross with Argentina because this “peaceful” country sold arms to Peru's enemy, Ecuador!
    With friends like that, who needs enemies?
    So they're “honourable” as well as “peaceful”! heh

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Peru gave weapons to Argentina to kill British
    UK is Peru's second largest investor.
    Argentina gave weapons to Ecuador to kill Peruvians
    Peru doesn't like Ecuador
    Israel gave weapons to Argentina to kill British
    Israel doesn't like Iran
    Argentina wants to give nuclear expertise to Iran
    Iran wants to destroy Israel
    Argentina and Brazil don't want nuclear subs in the South Atlantic because it's militarising the Area.
    Brazil is building a nuclear sub.

    Like seriously, what kind of furkshow is this South American nonsense?

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    There are always these back-corridor deals when it is impossible for the protagonists to deal direct.
    And there must always be a 'chinese wall' to separate the buyer/end-user from involvement. This means there will always be a 'fall-guy' to carry the can when things go wrong.
    Plausible deniability.

    See: http://idiotsinpower.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/arms-business.html
    and check out the US an - particularly - the UK arms transactions in the Saudi-British Aerospace/BAE Al-Yamamah (Dove) deals, for 'sweeteners, back-handers, and deniabilities, etc.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    @1 GreekYoghurt The Israeli people didn't back the Argentine junta. The individual responsible for trying to illegally supply the junta was Menachem Begin.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/8463934/Israel-supplied-arms-to-Argentina-during-Falklands-War.html

    Albert Einstein described Menachem Begin as a dangerous extreme right-wing fascist.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/8463934/Israel-supplied-arms-to-Argentina-during-Falklands-War.html

    He was a mass murderer responsible for several terrorist attacks on civilians Menachem, the terrorist psychopath, hated all things British. Not surprising he did what he could to support Argentina and his fellow fascist Leopoldo Galtieri. Begin grasped with both hands this little opportunity to murder some more Britons. It had been a while since he'd blown up any hotels and shopping centres. British intelligence were well informed, and his best efforts were thwarted.

    Incidentally, Menachem Begin, the mass murderer and hotel bomber was another Nobel Peace Prize winner.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/8463934/Israel-supplied-arms-to-Argentina-during-Falklands-War.html

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @13 Alexei, I cannot see what you're saying. Menachem Begin was the prime minister of Israel at the time that the State of Israel agreed to help the Argentinians wage war against the British with weaponry, intelligence and training.

    Menachem Begin even formed the Likud which is the current ruling party, and with Netanyahu as prime minister, I'm pretty sure that his doctrine still lives within their ideology of policitical beliefs.

    He's not the only Israeli who hates all things British, they have a series of medals for people in the terrorist groups that killed the British, murdered towns full of Arabs and shot dead a UN representative. Most of the terrorists got state funerals. Even now they use British passports to enter arab countries in order to assassinate folks, knowing fully well that the British will get the resulting political blame.

    The fact he got a peace prize just outlines how ridiculous the Knobel committee is and outlines why I, like most people, don't give a hoot about those Knobel Not-peace Prize holders and their opinions.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    hey!! the Americans helped out Britain why couldn´t Peru help out Argentina??? The difference today is that it is not only Peru it is all South America: Ummm and of course there is also Israel! LOL

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @15 aussie sunshine

    Did anyone say that Peru couldn't help Argentina? No, they didn't, so stick that in your propagandist blow hole.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @15 argentine sunshine,
    Researched who is the current GOVENOR of Australia, yet?
    Knobhead!

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    @14 I don't think the Israelis held a referendum on helping a fascist South American junta to break an arms embargo, which was imposed by Israel's sole benefactor, the United States. The duplicitous operation was attempted to be carried out in secret, though I wouldn't be surprised to find that, despite the underhanded and devious nature of this attempt to secretly support Argentina, and resulting in the deaths of British servicemen, a significant proportion of the Israeli population may well have condoned it. Considering the devious nature of the Israeli government's activities, I'd like to believe that the majority of Israelis would have considered their government's behaviour as despicable as we do.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    @ 15 You see I am republican!! so I really couldn´t care a sh*** about your govenor.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @19 aussie sunshine

    @15 is you, so you are talking to yourself .. and I think you will find that @lsolde's point is that Australia doesn't have a Governor (as you have so pig-ignorantly claimed)

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    LOL yes I was talking to my self back there!!

    Ohh we have a govenor alright!! she (MS Quentin Bryce) is situated in canberra and SHE is called a GOVENOR GENERAL even if SHE is a HER.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @21 aussie sunshine

    No, Australia does not have a Governor - it has a Governor General who is appointed under the authority vested by the Australian Constitution and therefore has nothing at all to do with the UK.

    Are you seriously telling me that you are so stupid that you don't even know the difference between a Governor and a Governor General? If that is the case, then why am I even bothering to have this conversation with such an obvious halfwit.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    Summit of Americas meeting, 14-15 April in Cartagena. Why not email to the OAS members (http://www.oas.org/en/member_states/default.asp) and to the OAS permanent observers (http://www.oas.org/en/member_states/default.asp) with message that might include quotes below and any other bits you want to add:

    “Britain remains staunchly committed to upholding the right of the Falkland Islanders, and of the Falkland Islanders alone, to determine their own future. That was the fundamental principle that was at stake 30 years ago: and that is the principle which we solemnly re-affirm today.” DC

    “We should remind the world that in the years since their liberation the Falkland islanders have repeated - without qualification or equivocation - their wish to keep their constitutional status, their national identity, and to live peacefully with their neighbours in Latin America,” WH

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    @22 to tell you the truth I never cared to know the difference between a govenor or govenor general!! I vote for my Prime Minister and that to me is enough! Governor or governor general is a pain in the butt!!

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @24 aussie sunshine

    Cool .. and, to be honest, I seriously doubt that you would have the mental capacity to understand the very obvious differences between the two.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @18 I don't know. I've never heard an Israeli condone the fact that they helped kill British Servicemen, I just thought it was a part of their history stemming from when the Israeli Stern Gang were trying to get Hitler to let them fight for him. As I said, judging from their continued use of British passports in extra-national assassinations then I'd guess most Israelis don't give a flying-furk about the feelings of the UK or the British.

    @23 Just email Captain Ban-Ki Moon of the good ship UN and tell him that the UK will discuss Falklands nationality once he's discussed the sovereignty of Dokdo with the Japanese and agreed about decolonising their territory in the Sea of Japan. It'll simply never happen and put the ball in his court, then we can just sit and eat sandwiches.

    @24 You are a complete imbecile. FACT.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stefan

    @11 - Nobody knows. Nobody has any idea.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    @26 I've not known many/any actual Israelis, as such. Though I've worked with a few jews, who all seemed to visit Israel from time to time. They were generally amicable, quite pro British and pro American, as you'd expect after we saved them from the Nazis. I suppose there's a diversity of opinion, as in most peoples. Zionist racial supremacist middle-easterners and hard core traditionalists from eastern Europe might be more inclined to help out Argentina, not because they support the RG cause, more out of malice. These sorts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceaTVuKL8jE

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @28 I think you're right. I hold no malice towards Jews at all. Conversely, I think it's perfectly acceptable given their history of belligerence towards the British, who were the main proponents of forming the State of Israel, to note that Israel is not a pro-UK country. Helping the Argies out in 1982 is just the tip of their dislike iceberg.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @15 Argy Sunshine

    The rest of South America doesn't give two hoots about Argentina's claims to the Falkland Islands. They are just whispering quite words of approval to the present deluded regime to be polite.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @24 argentine sunshine,
    Well, you finally did some research & found out just how stupid you've been sounding.
    btw- you don't vote for the Prime Minister.
    You vote for individual members of a Political Party.
    The Party with the most votes, elects the Prime Minister & he/she selects his/her cabinet.
    As an Aussie, you should know this.
    But you're not an Aussie, are you?
    The whole grammatical structure of your sentences do not fit the speach of an Australian.
    Don't know what you are, but most certainly are not an Aussie.
    There ARE some Aussies on here, who don't reveal their nationality.
    But not you.
    You need more practice, old bean.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    3 Tabutos
    You are correct,

    They lost the war,
    And now this deluded woman has lost the peace, and British did not lift a finger,
    Just a few choice well chosen words,
    Once again a dictatorship out witted by a few words,
    And again it was British,
    We will never ever hand a democracy over to a dictatorship,

    .

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz yawn!!

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @31 lsolde

    I am so glad you saved me the trouble of sharing that obvious truth :)

    Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • row82

    Please join -

    Keep the Falklands British -

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1

    Apr 04th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Luchinni

    Peruvians never forgot when the U.K. used Chile in 1879 to invaded Bolivia & Peru , that is why Peruvian goverment give exocets to Argentina in order to sink down the Sheffield 1n 1982 & they did not want the royal navy in Peruvian territory last week..

    Apr 06th, 2012 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @36 Luchinni,
    Why would we want to get involved in your squables.?
    We don't own Chile or tell them what to do.
    They are their own masters.
    l guess any excuse as to why you lost.
    Like the stupid Argentines saying that they lost in the Falklands because the whole world was against them.
    Then they say that the whole world supports them!
    Any excuse, hey!

    Apr 06th, 2012 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • row82

    Please join and press the LIKE button, we would like to expand to over 20,000 members on all three lists...

    1. Keep the Falklands British -

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1

    2. Falklands Forever British

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1

    3. We Will Never Surrender the Falklands

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1

    Join the growing cause to protect the Falklands from Argentine aggression!

    Apr 07th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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