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Furious Chile demands an apology from Argentina’s former military governor of the Falklands
The Chilean political system reacted angrily and demanded official apologies from the Argentine government following statements from former General Mario Menendez who said “Chileans behaved as pigs during the Malvinas war” three decades ago. Read full article
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Apr 05th, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some people cannot stomach the truth.
Apr 05th, 2012 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They were prepared for war with Chile (and planned to invade them at a later date) yet call Chile swines because they helped the UK when they invaded somewhere else??
Apr 05th, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not unexpected really. Two military juntas that couldn't abide each other, but for Britain, at least the Chileans were a useful support during a challenging defence of the Falklands. Pinochet may have been a bad guy - but not near as bad as Stalin was and Allies cooperated with him. From some experience with Argentine and Chilean military attachés during the 1980s, I'd say that the Argentines were quite intolerant of the military of other Latin American countries, and if those countries had a racial mix, the Argentines were openly racist as well.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Flashback...
Apr 06th, 2012 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2009/11/23/chile-was-next-target-after-falklands-in-1982-admits-argentine-brigadier
Interesting!
Apr 06th, 2012 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was looking at Chile's main newspapers; not one of them has this on its cover page.
Looks like LamePress is becoming more and more like The Sun
... probably because no article containing the 'A' word would be included before page 3
Apr 06th, 2012 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0helber why does it need to be a covering story??? Whether its on the front middle or back of a press publication, makes little difference to the content!
Apr 06th, 2012 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0So typical of you to go on about the quality of Merco when a story is anti RG. When it is pro RG its “well said , great article blah blah blah” You sad little kraut!
Argentina pisses off yet more of its neighbours and supposed allies. What wonderful diplomacy skills they have. LOL
Apr 06th, 2012 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Remember by US$ as Argentine currency will soon by going the way of the dinosaur!
Come on Chile, you know that Anti-Chilean sentiment is deeply ingrained in every aspect of Argentinian society and that they only ever put on the pretence of friendship when they want something from you. Any apology will just be words .. and insincere words at that.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just ignore them and accept that that particular leopard will NEVER change its spots.
“My enemies enemy, is my friend.”
Apr 06th, 2012 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@10 - yes they will be insincere words, but they will humiliate Argentina on the world stage if they are forced to apologise.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not that it really matters one way or another, as CFK is already doing an excellent job of humiliating Argentina on the world stage.
its an ironic anecdote, but the uncle of this General Mario Menendez who calles Chileans “swines” was another general called “Luciano Benjamin Menendez”.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This uncle, in 1978 was fierce antichilean (seems it's in the family) and openly challenged the Argentinian head of the junta to let attack them Chile same year 1978 with following sentence, i quote:
“If they let us attack the Chileans, we'll chase them to Easter Island, we'll drink the New Year's Eve toast in the Palacio de La Moneda, and then we'll piss the champagne into the Pacific”
(Si nos dejan atacar a los chilotes, los corremos hasta la isla de Pascua, el brindis de fin de año lo hacemos en el Palacio La Moneda y después iremos a mear el champagne en el Pacífico)
General Luciano Benjamin MENENDEZ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciano_Benjam%C3%ADn_Men%C3%A9ndez
Sweet, oh... sweet Karma!
I hate the damn Argentine who insulted the pigs, we all know what kind of traitor pinochet was and UK did everything to protect the dictator against the Chilean legal system, thanks to UK pinochet killed and jailed many Chileans and now UK uses pinochet to insult us Argentine's and pin us against Chileans. I have a solution for this problem, execute a British pirates anywhere they are found, we have no need for them in america, keep suthamericans brits free.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And just what did you all expect from Argentina, a repeat performance of course.......for your viewing pleasure:
Apr 06th, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
Gracias Cristina y Nestor!!
@14 Pirat-Hunter
Apr 06th, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Luckily your cause isn't going to catch on as long as there are Neanderthals like around.
I think that another General Menendez is serving a life sentence in Cordoba.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As military governor he would order dissidents to be shot inside their detention camps and then have the bodies thrown out into the streets of Cordoba with weapons at their sides. This would make it look like they had been killed in a firefight with the security forces. This information I gleaned from a weekly called MIRADAS AL SUR in 2008.
Regarding the behaviour of Pinchet's junta all one has to do is read THE SOVEREIGN STATE by the late Anthony Sampson. It details the involvement of the Nixon regime in Chile. One should also remember that there was a Cuban presence in Santiago. Another source of interest would be the film MISSING with Jack Lemon and cissy Spacek. It's old but worth looking at and deals with the story of an American journalist, John Hormon, who went missing during the coup. He was a man who knew too much. He was eventually found buried inside a brick wall,
@14 How could Pinochet be a traitor? To whom? Argentina, his sworn enemy?
Apr 06th, 2012 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In 1982 Chile allied itself with Britain because Argentina was as big a threat to their freedom as it was to the Falklands.
This headline gives a strange version of the story...
Apr 06th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When an argentinian says that “the chilean behaved like pigs” Can we really believe it is aimed at all chilean people?? OF COURSE NOT: Chile and Argentina were governed by dictatorships in those times....
Nowadays there is a strong democracy in both countries, so Chile will not only never support the UK anymore in its excuses of protecting self-determination of islanders, but also supports the Argentina.
And Argentina is not a threaten anymore, has no intentions to do WAR. But the UK follows an obstinate path of dealing with this conflict in a warrior tone, sending warships, and they are even expanding the zone controlled by the Royal Army, that's the only place they can win, because they have no true fundaments for sovereignty.
How can “protecting self determination” be a green light to expand british influence so many miles away from the Islands? Little by little the UK's real interests are being exposed...
Please join -
Apr 06th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep the Falklands British -
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1
@20 Love to join you. However, you put your site on Facebook, an organisation I will NOT join under ANY circumstances as it is proven to be easily hackable, with gaping holes in its security enabling potential identity theft.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did join, briefly, for about 2 hours. Then I cancelled.
Put your site somewhere safe!
Unfortunate comment and use of language... however why would we get surprised by his sentiment? Chile took the enemy's side, so Argentina blames their position... i guess it makes a lot of sense to feel like it :). I know the majority of Argies would probably agree with him :)
Apr 06th, 2012 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So if they had not invaded the Falklands, they would have invaded Chile. Seems they were intent on invading somebody. Who would have been next I wonder? Geography not that good, who else to they share a border with? Nothing much seems to have changed, regional bullys then, regional bullys now. Realy have to wonder why their neighbours give them the time of day!
Apr 06th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Give them enough rope....... :)
Apr 06th, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 Fermin. Royal Army? Talk about someone talking bollocks! The only Royal Army I've ever heard of is the Danish Royal Army. I don't recall reading any stories of them tooling around the Falklands and South Atlantic, although I could be wrong.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you are confused between the Royal Navy and British Army. But since you can't get even these simple facts right, how can we expect you to understand about the Falklands. We are not trying to expand our sphere of influence, as the Falklands are already a British Overseas Territory and will remain so until their inhabitants, the Falkland Islanders decide they don't want to be anymore. Neither Britain or Argentina has any say in the matter, and Britain will protect the Islanders right to self-determination and freedom as long as they wish us to.
Fermin, 25 has already exposed your ignorance of the British Military. I will go further:
Apr 06th, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please explain what you call this “warrior tone” and “sending warships”?
In 1984- for instance there were SIX - yes 6 Royal Navy Frigates and Destroyers in the South Atlantic all the time.
About 1986 it was reduced to FOUR - 4.
By 2003 it was down to ONE frigate or Destroyer for about 1 month every 3 months! Plus a small lightly armed patrol vessel here permanently.
Then along came Kirscheners and they started getting unpleasant, cancelling agreements and creating difficulties and increasing AREGENTINE MILITARY HARASSMENT of civilian vessels in the South Atlantic.
So the Royal Navy prescence in the South Atlantic was increased to One ship most of the time- because of the Arg Naval Harrassment!
Now it is 2012 - 30 years on and we still have a small patrol vessel yes - but the last Frigate left last month - you know that because she was due in Peru!! And the next vessel due - a destroyer again - onlt left England 2 days ago!!
Yes there is a MASSIVE Royal Navy prescence in the South Atlantic today !!! You IDIOT!!!!
So much for South American solidarity.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has insulted a neighbouring country? You don't say. Amazing!
Apr 06th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19
Apr 06th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fermin. Ouside the Falklands, what British influence? Given the recent reponses from your neighbours, I would say Argentina has the greater influence in the area. As for British military presence, it is simple, the UK despite your assurances is not willing to believe you will not try the military option again, sorry, but that's how it is.
Las Malvinas son argentinas!
Apr 06th, 2012 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 Reality Check
Apr 06th, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe (and so do the UK MoD strategists obviously) that the reason the Argentines will NOT “try the military option again” is BECAUSE of the superior UK military presence in the South Atlantic. Nobody wants a war. Certainly not me or any of my serving or ex-serving colleagues and friends.
31. Amen to that.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 fermin (#)
Apr 06th, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Nowadays there is a strong democracy in both countries, so Chile will not only never support the UK anymore in its excuses of protecting self-determination of islanders”
You contradict yourself:
You talk about democracy, but deny the Islanders for self determination? Ridiculous.
I consider myself a chilean democrat, and I am for the free will of the Islanders. And they do not want to belong to Argentina. Deal with it... and go crying.
Always astounds me, why one person living in one country, thinks theysay what another person living in another country will say. Arrogance is the word that comes to mind.
Apr 06th, 2012 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps Chile will now come back to the block of “sane countries” and avoid the tin pot dictatorship next door.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 04:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just another third rate Argentine army officer trying to disguise the fact he's inept. I personaly think if they had invaded Chile, they would have been defeated anyway.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0@36 Hey Reality Check how are you today?
Apr 07th, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just to let you know that I agree with your statements, Chile would've certainly given Argentina a run for their money back in the 70's and 80's.
These days, I doubt any Argentine military aggression against Chile would be possible due to the abysmal state of their Armed Forces, compared to the excellently trained and equipped Chilean Armed Forces.
No all Argentina can do these days is to play nice with it's neighbours. Unfortunately for the Argentinian people, their government can only hold the charade of 'niceness' up for some long before it cracks, and their true vemenous nature comes out.
And the dead Argentine soldiers with a Chilean knife stab in their back remind us Argentine's to help Bolivia get their land back to access the sea.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19 No, sonny, you give a strange version of the story. No doubt due to your psychotic “education”.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think an argie is capable of saying “the chilean government”? Yes? Then saying “the chilean” includes all Chileans, right? Of course it is only right and proper that you should try to retrieve what this animal said. Damage limitation is an argie incompetent speciality, right?
There “may” be a strong democracy in Chile. Only God knows what argieland has. It isn't a democracy.
Just as a thought, argieland is already conducting economic warfare. Who knows when they might think to get their rowing boats and gliders out? Si vis pacem, para bellum. Can you figure out what that means? As a matter of FACT, Britain doesn't have a “Royal Army”, so who's “Royal Army” are you referring to?
As recognised by the United Nations, the Falkland Islands have a declared Economic Exclusion Zone in order to resist the aspirations of a nearby belligerent, neo-imperialist, neo-colonialist cuntry.
@30 En tus sueños, niño.
@38 Well, good for Chileans! Where else would you stab the typical argie running away? And let's be fair. Stabbing an argie is good on ANY day!
Please join and press the LIKE button, we would like to expand to over 20,000 members on all three lists...
Apr 07th, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Keep the Falklands British -
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2. Falklands Forever British
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3. We Will Never Surrender the Falklands
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@38 What about the stab in the back that you gave to Peru in the war with Ecuador in 1995 when while you were guaranteer you sold weapons to Ecuador. It cause the death to many peruvian soldiers. And it was in plain and FULL DEMOCRACY not in the secrecy of any military junta as anyone could perfectly apologize.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So don´t be fresh. Nowadays in Peru many don´t want to listen a single word about your claim of the Falklands.
40 - Row82 - I'd be glad to support all three, but I haven't got a Facebook account and I don't want one. Can't you find another means?
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10: “Come on Chile, you know that Anti-Chilean sentiment is deeply ingrained in every aspect of Argentinian society ”
Apr 08th, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Skåre, you rightly blasted Conqueror for making sweeping over-generalizations about Argies in another thread but now you are doing the same thing. Argentine society is NOT anti-Chilean. Otherwise how do you explain this?
http://www.infobae.com/notas/505540-Argentina-abraza-a-Chile-recaudo-
60-toneladas-de-alimentos-y-ropa.html
I won't lie you, we have quite a lot of jingoistic idiots this side of the Andes, but in general you'll notice a high correlation between anti-Chilean sentiments and hardcore “malvinism”. The people who believe the madness of 1982 was a just war, is highly likely to think Pinochet “betrayed” us by siding with the UK back then.
I for one don't hate Chileans and don't think they “betrayed” us in 1982. What Pinochet did was quite logical from an strategic standpoint. I'm a libertarian and despise all dictatorships, and Pinochet's is no exception, but not because he “betrayed” us.
Cheers.
43 - Dear egarcía: I really think it's true that Argentines do not dislike Chileans, Paraguayans or Uruguayans. In fact the opposite is often true: Argentines have caused the citizens of the three nations to dislike Argentina. This has been accomplished by means of many years of bullying, threats, land-grabs, etc on the part of Argentina. Unlike these three nations, the Brazilians are not afraid of Argentina's periodic aggressive dementia. They think it's a big joke, and no doubt have plans for making money when Argentina's coming economic crisis arrives.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentines hate Chile, they hate everyone, it's a nation of hatred and fanaticism which is stirred from the top down. The only other place on Earth that propagandizes its people with a completely one sided view of history is North Korea and even there they don't wind people up into hate frenzies.
Apr 09th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is a truly despicable cuss pit, with nothing but hate, insults, lies, propaganda and violence coming out of it. But the world can see.
Kristina Fernandez sucks up to Chavez but the truth is she's never really loved him. Her own personal wealth has increased by 900% while she has been in office, her government a cess pit of corruption. The Amerindians who share Charvez blood are treated like scum and make up the largest percent of the prison population. There are no plans for land reform, which is a pity because some of the Argies on here (Think) would be loosing their large houses.
I think maybe Argentina should be given back to the Indians because their government talks about colonialism enough, they need to prove they're not hypocritical by dropping their claims to the South Atlantic and removing themselves from a continent their fathers and mothers colonised. Kristina should go back to Germany where her grandparents came from as she feels so strongly about what colonialism has done to Argentina.
As a Patagonic Chilean who have lived an entire life next to the Argentines, crossing their land to north Chile driving a truck back on the 70 & 80's anf after as well, I can say that the common Argentine people dón´t hate us.....They were and are very nice we us from ever, the problem is with the Argentine authorities, they have been from ever anti Chilean and we have a lot of proofs of that, starting with the robbing of our Patagonia form the Black River to the South (utis posidendis no valid for us then, but valid to Argentina for the Falklands now ???), periodical threatens for fakes border claims (over our own territory, the Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego Island), not recongnizing the result of a valid international refferee set by a Treat signed on early 20th century, not respecting commercial agreements signed by their Gvt., etc, etc, etc....A long list of facts against us from the Argentine Gvt.....So, what can you expect that the Chilean Gvt. can made whe the neighbor start a war against another neighbor and probably if they win after short time they turn to the other border to do the same?? Don´t forget that we have lived form ever with the threat of an invasion from the east.....leting them to win one and another time.....up to one brave General says STOP.....if you wont war, war you´ll have on 1978 and after that he defended our quiteness helping who was suffering the same we have suffered......Well done, Captain General Augusto Pinochet Ugarte, former President of the Republic of Chile, never defeated in a war....
Apr 12th, 2012 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm Argentinian. I live in Patagonia next to the border with Chile. I love Chile and I don't hate any country, not even England!
Apr 13th, 2012 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm very happy with my president. I voted her and I would do it again.
Of course, Las Malvinas son argentinas, it's just a matter of time
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